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NFT: New York Mets vs. Walgreens Nationals - Game 2 - Redemption

arcarsenal : 4/17/2018 11:37 am
Can we just burn that other fucking thread? I don't want to look at it anymore.

New day, fresh start.

Wheeler vs. Gio.

Cespedes has had success against Gio so he'll almost certainly be back in the lineup today.

Time to see what this team is made of and how they handle a little adversity. Everything's easy when you're winning. Now we've got to bounce back from a horrific loss.

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Come on Nido  
ZGiants98 : 4/17/2018 7:51 pm : link
Catch the ball and thats a strike. God these catchers are awful.
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arcarsenal : 4/17/2018 7:52 pm : link
Citing Rosario's "lifetime" BA is also foolish - but you're dealing with a hybrid Nationals/Yankees fan here. What do you expect?
Oooh.. Harper coming through  
ZGiants98 : 4/17/2018 7:55 pm : link
shocker. We should just walk him every time.
Man...  
ZGiants98 : 4/17/2018 8:01 pm : link
Roasrio is just lost.
this catcher is really annoying  
Eric on Li : 4/17/2018 8:02 pm : link
when was the last time we had a catcher with an arm like that?
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CardinalX : 4/17/2018 8:03 pm : link
ZGiants replied to my comment about Nationals batters that were either absent or underperforming with reference to Lagares, Nido, Rosario and Cespedes. The players I mentioned on the Nats were all starters. Lagares wasn't underperforming, so not sure why he was mentioned. Nido is a backup. and Rosario has never been expected much from which is why I referenced his lower historic BA. I wouldn't think that I would have needed to spell it out as it was fairly obvious, but there you are.

You can oft reference me being a Yankees and Nationals fan as much as you'd like and if it helps you sleep at night, so be it. But I've been a fan of both the Yankees and Expos/Nationals for close to 45 years and haven't flinched in that entire period of time. It's as long or nearly as long as I've been a NY Giants fan as well. I've got no question regarding my loyalties and your implications won't diminish them in the least, so carry on.
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arcarsenal : 4/17/2018 8:06 pm : link
I don't really care how confident you are in your loyalties, to be honest - I just don't take you seriously at all.

Cool beans man  
ZGiants98 : 4/17/2018 8:07 pm : link
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ZGiants  
CardinalX : 4/17/2018 8:07 pm : link
you included Lagares in your comment about Mets players batting .100 that Nats should be looking at and thinking the same thing about my comment. I pointed out the fact that Lagares is currently batting .340, not .100.

If that is the dumbest comment you've ever heard, I guess I can understand given who you hang out with
sunuvabitch  
Rory : 4/17/2018 8:07 pm : link
we're getting base runners but...
I say this  
Pete in MD : 4/17/2018 8:11 pm : link
multiple times every year but F.P. Santangelo is such an asshole.
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CardinalX : 4/17/2018 8:11 pm : link
how you take me, seriously or not, is of no concern to me either. if someone makes a comment in reference to me, i'll reply. anyways, the only reason I'm on this thread at all is the Mets are playing the Nationals and I gave a fraction of a percent chance that there might be some friendly banter between fans of both teams.

the handful of Mets fans that have proven that to be an impossibility has done it's job. enjoy your thread and feel free to speak about the Nationals as if they've raped every member of your family. have a good cry and enjoy your early success.
RE: ZGiants  
ZGiants98 : 4/17/2018 8:11 pm : link
In comment 13918037 CardinalX said:
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you included Lagares in your comment about Mets players batting .100 that Nats should be looking at and thinking the same thing about my comment. I pointed out the fact that Lagares is currently batting .340, not .100.

If that is the dumbest comment you've ever heard, I guess I can understand given who you hang out with


I actually worded my comment poorly. It was meant as

"The Nats are probably looking at Lagares, Nido, Rosario dot dot dot...

And also Cespedes hitting .100 and thinking the same thing. Lol"

That's what I was trying to say.

But either way, your response was hypocritical and ridiculous. I'm sorry I responded at all. Can we get back to the game now?
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arcarsenal : 4/17/2018 8:12 pm : link
In comment 13918049 CardinalX said:
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how you take me, seriously or not, is of no concern to me either. if someone makes a comment in reference to me, i'll reply. anyways, the only reason I'm on this thread at all is the Mets are playing the Nationals and I gave a fraction of a percent chance that there might be some friendly banter between fans of both teams.

the handful of Mets fans that have proven that to be an impossibility has done it's job. enjoy your thread and feel free to speak about the Nationals as if they've raped every member of your family. have a good cry and enjoy your early success.


Will do. See ya later. The Yankees are playing too, so maybe go on over there and pollute their thread instead.
Nido just looks awful  
ZGiants98 : 4/17/2018 8:12 pm : link
That was another strike he framed poorly and of course a ridiculous throw. Holy crap.
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arcarsenal : 4/17/2018 8:13 pm : link
Do we have any catcher on this roster who can throw a runner out on a steal attempt?

It doesn't seem like any of the 4 guys we have can do that.
RE: Nido just looks awful  
Rory : 4/17/2018 8:13 pm : link
In comment 13918054 ZGiants98 said:
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That was another strike he framed poorly and of course a ridiculous throw. Holy crap.


ugh ugh ugh..
Omg again  
ZGiants98 : 4/17/2018 8:14 pm : link
I thought Nimo could frame? Ugly.
We need to get a catcher in here..  
ZGiants98 : 4/17/2018 8:15 pm : link
We cant wait for Plawecki. This is ridiculous.
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arcarsenal : 4/17/2018 8:15 pm : link
Nido is awful. He can't catch the ball, he can't frame pitches, he can't hit, he can't throw anyone out.
RE: We need to get a catcher in here..  
Rory : 4/17/2018 8:16 pm : link
In comment 13918062 ZGiants98 said:
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We cant wait for Plawecki. This is ridiculous.


thoughts on Devin Mesoraco? We like them Reds
Ill take anyone at this point  
ZGiants98 : 4/17/2018 8:17 pm : link
Anyone.
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arcarsenal : 4/17/2018 8:17 pm : link
Is Carlos Ruiz still out there? I don't care if he's 40 years old, he's got to be better than this.
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arcarsenal : 4/17/2018 8:19 pm : link
I knew this was going to happen after yesterday. Team looks like the life has been completely sucked out of them.
Nice job Zack. This ain’t the Marlins.  
PhiPsi125 : 4/17/2018 8:19 pm : link
So predictable.
Well this game sucks  
ZGiants98 : 4/17/2018 8:19 pm : link
Fucking dink and dunk bullshit game. And we cant hit Gio.
Can we get the bums out?  
Rflairr : 4/17/2018 8:21 pm : link
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Shecky : 4/17/2018 8:21 pm : link
In comment 13918056 arcarsenal said:
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Do we have any catcher on this roster who can throw a runner out on a steal attempt?

It doesn't seem like any of the 4 guys we have can do that.


What’s the common thread?
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ZGiants98 : 4/17/2018 8:22 pm : link
In comment 13918074 Shecky said:
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In comment 13918056 arcarsenal said:


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Do we have any catcher on this roster who can throw a runner out on a steal attempt?

It doesn't seem like any of the 4 guys we have can do that.



What’s the common thread?


I think you're getting at pitchers holding runners on which I agree but Nido and Lobaton look ridiculous. Stabbing at the ball. Just lost.
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arcarsenal : 4/17/2018 8:25 pm : link
In comment 13918074 Shecky said:
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In comment 13918056 arcarsenal said:


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Do we have any catcher on this roster who can throw a runner out on a steal attempt?

It doesn't seem like any of the 4 guys we have can do that.



What’s the common thread?


The pitchers still haven't learned to hold runners properly - but some of the throws to second aren't even competitive throws. They're not close.
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PhiPsi125 : 4/17/2018 8:25 pm : link
In comment 13918074 Shecky said:
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In comment 13918056 arcarsenal said:


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Do we have any catcher on this roster who can throw a runner out on a steal attempt?

It doesn't seem like any of the 4 guys we have can do that.



What’s the common thread?


So, all of their pitchers stink at holding runners on? Starters and relievers? Hard to believe. And our catchers don’t exactly have even good throws to catch runners. But they could start with not letting players get monstrous leads.
I know the weather effects both teams equally  
ZGiants98 : 4/17/2018 8:28 pm : link
I know its not an excuse...

But Wheeler was throwing 97 in Miami. I am sick and tired of playing games in the North Pole. When the hell is this shit going to an end?
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arcarsenal : 4/17/2018 8:28 pm : link
I mean, Nido's throw to 2nd before wasn't even on the right side of the bag. It was like a foot to the left.

He's struggling to even hold onto breaking pitches behind the dish. What exactly is this guy here for?
Realmuto with a 3 run HR  
ZGiants98 : 4/17/2018 8:31 pm : link
His first game back 7-0 Marlins over the Yankees.
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arcarsenal : 4/17/2018 8:33 pm : link
We should just forfeit any inning Gio pitches @ Citi Field. Haven't been able to touch this guy for years.
I think it's funny that our hottest hitters right now  
ZGiants98 : 4/17/2018 8:34 pm : link
(outside of Frazier and Cabrera) basically all play the same position. Nimmo, Conforto, and Lagares are all doing well and will never get on the field together.

We need Cespedes to wake up in the worst way.
I said this a while ago...you can only last so long winning games  
PhiPsi125 : 4/17/2018 8:35 pm : link
with clutch hits only. If this team doesn't start hitting then things can get ugly quick. I don’t care how good your pitching is. Figure this shit out already. And it ain’t the weather.
This has been a completely predictable  
Chris684 : 4/17/2018 8:35 pm : link
start to this game.

Wheeler indeed with shades of John Maine. Gonzalez looking like Greg Maddux in his prime at CitiField.

Their catcher can throw, none of ours can. Shocker.

This lineup better wake up or a sweep is in order and Washington might be able to weather the early season surge from NYM.
If Wheeler throws one more scoreless  
ZGiants98 : 4/17/2018 8:44 pm : link
Im completely content with this game. Especially, considering some of those runs came on bullshit flairs inches over Cabrera's head or loop drops into LF. No excuses but 6 innings and 3 run ball is fine by me.


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arcarsenal : 4/17/2018 8:45 pm : link
Well, Wheeler can hit Gio... maybe someone else can?
and he's the best hitter in our lineup tonight...  
ZGiants98 : 4/17/2018 8:45 pm : link
lol
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arcarsenal : 4/17/2018 8:46 pm : link
Ameddddd.

Please fucking cash in now. Top of the order up with 2 on and no out.
Holy crap  
ZGiants98 : 4/17/2018 8:46 pm : link
a Rosario hit!
Need to make  
Pete in MD : 4/17/2018 8:48 pm : link
this count and hopefully chase Gio from the game.
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arcarsenal : 4/17/2018 8:48 pm : link
LOL Wheeler really should have been thrown out there. That was not deep enough for a guy that slow to score.

If he got thrown out I probably would have just shut it off.
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arcarsenal : 4/17/2018 8:49 pm : link
Not ideal - no big inning now, but we had to get those guys home.
RE: If Wheeler throws one more scoreless  
PhiPsi125 : 4/17/2018 8:49 pm : link
In comment 13918101 ZGiants98 said:
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Im completely content with this game. Especially, considering some of those runs came on bullshit flairs inches over Cabrera's head or loop drops into LF. No excuses but 6 innings and 3 run ball is fine by me.



I’d tend to agree. Too many walks and this team will take advantage of his mistake pitches but he’s limited the damage. Finish this game strong and I’m getting closer with Wheeler.
Slow my ass  
Shecky : 4/17/2018 8:50 pm : link
Flo beats out an infield hit lol
RE: Slow my ass  
arcarsenal : 4/17/2018 8:51 pm : link
In comment 13918119 Shecky said:
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Flo beats out an infield hit lol


LOL, I was shocked he made it.

The guy really is slow as molasses. I love him.. but he's VERY slow.
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arcarsenal : 4/17/2018 8:51 pm : link
We need a Flava Fraz bomb here.
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