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NFT: Southwest Flight 1380

Sean : 4/17/2018 6:57 pm
First US commercial jet related death since 2009. Awful story, the victim was a mother of 2. I know fear of flying is completely irrational and it is much more dangerous driving to the airport, but this certainly doesn’t help.

Excellent job by the pilot for successfully landing during chaos.
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Pilots  
DC Gmen Fan : 4/17/2018 7:09 pm : link
There are two up there
First inflight  
Sarcastic Sam : 4/17/2018 7:10 pm : link
fatal accident from Southwest Airlines, over 51 years.

Air travel remains the safest way to travel.
I wonder what the implications are on how they ruled the  
bubba0825 : 4/17/2018 7:11 pm : link
Death. The women had a heart attack. Yet her family can site that she was a victim of an accident
Pratt and Whitney have some explaining to do  
skifaster : 4/17/2018 7:12 pm : link
This is not the first incident:

https://airlinegeeks.com/2016/09/02/uncontained-engine-failure-the-aftermath/

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skifaster : 4/17/2018 7:12 pm : link
Clickable link
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RE: Pratt and Whitney have some explaining to do  
Sarcastic Sam : 4/17/2018 7:14 pm : link
In comment 13917938 skifaster said:
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This is not the first incident:

https://airlinegeeks.com/2016/09/02/uncontained-engine-failure-the-aftermath/


737NGs don't have Pratt & Whitney engines. They have CFM engines, which is a joint venture between GE and a French company.
RE: Pratt and Whitney have some explaining to do  
DC Gmen Fan : 4/17/2018 7:16 pm : link
In comment 13917938 skifaster said:
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This is not the first incident:

https://airlinegeeks.com/2016/09/02/uncontained-engine-failure-the-aftermath/



Love it when all the know it alls come out.

737s use CFM engines.
RE: RE: Pratt and Whitney have some explaining to do  
Sarcastic Sam : 4/17/2018 7:19 pm : link
In comment 13917950 DC Gmen Fan said:
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In comment 13917938 skifaster said:


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This is not the first incident:

https://airlinegeeks.com/2016/09/02/uncontained-engine-failure-the-aftermath/





Love it when all the know it alls come out.

737s use CFM engines.


That being said, this is the 2nd Southwest 737 with an uncontrolled engine failure.

skimaster, this isn't the NY Times. We don't like erroneous statements here on BBI.
I apologize for coming  
DC Gmen Fan : 4/17/2018 7:21 pm : link
off like an ass.
RE: Pilots  
Sean : 4/17/2018 7:41 pm : link
In comment 13917932 DC Gmen Fan said:
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There are two up there


I apologize. This is a great call out and def important to note the other pilot.
FYI  
DC Gmen Fan : 4/17/2018 7:45 pm : link
in an emergency, usually the FO flies and handles the ATC radios and the CA runs the checklists and communicates with the company, flight attendants, dispatch, etc.

In any case both are very busy and there is a defined delegation of duties to ensure someone is focused on flying the plane at all times.
Sorry about that  
skifaster : 4/17/2018 7:53 pm : link
Wish there was a way to delete posts. Saw the picture from today and it reminded me of the picture of the earlier incident.
what a horrible experience  
santacruzom : 4/17/2018 8:03 pm : link
I don't think I could quantify the amount of shit I'd deposit into my pants going through such a thing.

I read a bit about this earlier but it was unclear -- is the woman who died the same woman who was rescued from being... holy shit, sucked out of the goddam plane?
Sitting on a plane right now  
larryflower37 : 4/17/2018 8:07 pm : link
Watched the coverage in the airport bar.
Improved my odds for another safe flight.
Not a heart attack  
regulator : 4/17/2018 8:43 pm : link
Passenger was partially pulled through a window which failed as a result of the uncontained failure of the #1 engine. Massive head trauma, evidence of which was on the fuselage aft of the window.
RE: Sorry about that  
regulator : 4/17/2018 8:47 pm : link
In comment 13918013 skifaster said:
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Wish there was a way to delete posts. Saw the picture from today and it reminded me of the picture of the earlier incident.


I suspect you were thinking of the UAL 777 uncontained engine failure en route to HNL in which a few fan blades were “liberated”... in that case a PW4000 series motor.
Things spinning at  
section125 : 4/17/2018 9:18 pm : link
15000 rpm tend to fall apart quickly with the least amount of damage.
anyone see the 60 Minutes piece the other night?  
JohnB : 4/17/2018 9:20 pm : link
Amazing and shocking.
RE: anyone see the 60 Minutes piece the other night?  
Sarcastic Sam : 4/17/2018 9:56 pm : link
In comment 13918172 JohnB said:
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Amazing and shocking.


I think the words you are looking for are sensational and slanderous.

It's 60 minutes, dude.
FWIW I have several friends I've flown with  
DC Gmen Fan : 4/17/2018 10:12 pm : link
who are at Allegiant and for the most part they say the culture has already changed for the better.
RE: anyone see the 60 Minutes piece the other night?  
Boy Cord : 4/17/2018 10:18 pm : link
In comment 13918172 JohnB said:
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Amazing and shocking.


What was it about?
RE: FWIW I have several friends I've flown with  
regulator : 4/18/2018 8:28 am : link
In comment 13918258 DC Gmen Fan said:
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who are at Allegiant and for the most part they say the culture has already changed for the better.


There was already a pretty extensive hit piece on Allegiant a few years ago in a major publication which was a catalyst in major organizational changes for the positive. The 60 Minutes program was a bit sensationalized for my taste.
RE: Sitting on a plane right now  
Gatorade Dunk : 4/18/2018 8:30 am : link
In comment 13918039 larryflower37 said:
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Watched the coverage in the airport bar.
Improved my odds for another safe flight.

Classic gambler's fallacy. Your odds did not change at all.
Keep your seatbelt  
PEEJ : 4/18/2018 8:32 am : link
fastened
Yes..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/18/2018 8:43 am : link
it was:

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I read a bit about this earlier but it was unclear -- is the woman who died the same woman who was rescued from being... holy shit, sucked out of the goddam plane?


But it sounds like from the reports she was already dead when she was being sucked out. Her head suffered massive trauma as it banged against the widow.
Probably broke her neck  
RobCrossRiver56 : 4/18/2018 9:18 am : link
So Sad.. RIP
Eesh. CFM56 engines?  
x meadowlander : 4/18/2018 10:19 am : link
I spent years working those programs. Those engines have been in service for like 40 years though, I think - pretty good track record, don't recall hearing of failures like this one, unless it was hit by something.
A 737 takes off every 3 seconds in the world  
DC Gmen Fan : 4/18/2018 11:32 am : link
CFMs are very reliable.

SW has had 2 uncontained engine failures in the past couple years. I believe they outsource some maintenance to an El Salvador company. Those practices will obviously be under scrutiny as will all of LUV's in house maintenance as well.
One of the GE facilities I used to work with...  
x meadowlander : 4/18/2018 11:57 am : link
...had a test group that would actually shoot frozen chickens and turkeys into running engines for bird strike testing.

One of the coolest jobs I ever heard of.
RE: Not a heart attack  
if_i_knew : 4/18/2018 12:01 pm : link
In comment 13918100 regulator said:
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Passenger was partially pulled through a window which failed as a result of the uncontained failure of the #1 engine. Massive head trauma, evidence of which was on the fuselage aft of the window.


From a different part of the web:

"Witness on the news said the woman's body above the waist was outside the plane. They pulled her back in and did CPR for about 20 minutes but it was not going to be enough to save her."



I recall a Mythbusters episode where they disproved that the cabin pressure would equalize that rapidly

the pilot a pretty cool customer -  
Del Shofner : 4/18/2018 4:07 pm : link
first woman in the Navy to fly fighter jets.

"Part of the plane is missing and they said someone went out the window."

A tragedy for the lady who died but great job by all concerned to get everyone else safely on the ground.
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RE: RE: RE: Pratt and Whitney have some explaining to do  
BMac : 4/18/2018 4:42 pm : link
In comment 13917952 Sarcastic Sam said:
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In comment 13917950 DC Gmen Fan said:


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In comment 13917938 skifaster said:


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This is not the first incident:

https://airlinegeeks.com/2016/09/02/uncontained-engine-failure-the-aftermath/





Love it when all the know it alls come out.

737s use CFM engines.



That being said, this is the 2nd Southwest 737 with an uncontrolled engine failure.

skimaster, this isn't the NY Times. We don't like erroneous statements here on BBI.


The asshole strikes again. What a Sad Sack.
Well I guess humor is verboten then  
idiotsavant : 4/18/2018 5:12 pm : link
Because he funny, yo
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