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Is this a week draft?

Dan Blue : 4/17/2018 11:28 pm
With all the holes being punched into the top prospects seems like maybe this draft is not too strong. I haven’t been a big proponent of taking Chubb until now. These QB’s don’t blow me away and Barkley seems too high of a risk at #2. Especially when there are other backs that can produce for us. The Giants have to go with the best bang for the buck and that’s Chubb IMO.
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CardinalX : 4/17/2018 11:31 pm : link
it's a 3 day draft I think?
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huygens20 : 4/17/2018 11:33 pm : link
hell no.


there are a ton of high quality edge rushers, cornerbacks, tight ends and rbs in this draft.
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Joey in VA : 4/17/2018 11:41 pm : link
In comment 13918305 CardinalX said:
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it's a 3 day draft I think?
Well played sir.
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Dragon : 4/18/2018 4:03 am : link
This is a very strong draft just don't over thing it. I don't want to see any 90 rating players being drafted in the top 65. This is a team that other than passing on a QB at #2 could draft every position on the roster. Go with your board they have very limited talent on the entire team. No medical guys yes you will have injuries but get guys with clean health records to start their NFL careers.
It happens every year.  
Giantgator : 4/18/2018 6:34 am : link
Especially after the Bob McGinn articles come out. Even the top prospects don't seem draft worthy. BTW, his positional previews with scouts' opinions will be posted at www.bobmcginnfootball.com now since he no longer writes for the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.
I wouldn’t say it is a weak draft  
Mike in NY : 4/18/2018 6:55 am : link
Even if I think that the QB’s are being overrated (personally I think there are one or two that may have a ceiling of Eli Manning if developed properly. I do not see a Brady, a Brees, a Rodgers, etc. in this class), there is still plenty of talent. The knock on Barkley is more about the value the NFL places on RB and the overall depth in this year’s draft at the position. The main downside that I see is that after the first 10-12 or so players, you are likely to see comparable players getting drafted middle of the first round as you are the end of the second. That is what scares me about a potential trade down with Buffalo unless the return is substantial. I don’t want to be in a spot where the only top tier player left is Derwin James as he may be the one person who doesn’t fill a position of need on this roster because we have Landon Collins
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gmenatlarge : 4/18/2018 7:09 am : link
In comment 13918354 Mike in NY said:
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Even if I think that the QB’s are being overrated (personally I think there are one or two that may have a ceiling of Eli Manning if developed properly. I do not see a Brady, a Brees, a Rodgers, etc. in this class), there is still plenty of talent. The knock on Barkley is more about the value the NFL places on RB and the overall depth in this year’s draft at the position. The main downside that I see is that after the first 10-12 or so players, you are likely to see comparable players getting drafted middle of the first round as you are the end of the second. That is what scares me about a potential trade down with Buffalo unless the return is substantial. I don’t want to be in a spot where the only top tier player left is Derwin James as he may be the one person who doesn’t fill a position of need on this roster because we have Landon Collins


I don't see how you can say there is no Brees, Brady or Rodgers, nobody knows that, Rodgers was drafted #17 or so and we all know where Brady was picked so you really can't make that statement.
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DonQuixote : 4/18/2018 7:19 am : link
In comment 13918357 gmenatlarge said:
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Even if I think that the QB’s are being overrated (personally I think there are one or two that may have a ceiling of Eli Manning if developed properly. I do not see a Brady, a Brees, a Rodgers, etc. in this class), there is still plenty of talent. The knock on Barkley is more about the value the NFL places on RB and the overall depth in this year’s draft at the position. The main downside that I see is that after the first 10-12 or so players, you are likely to see comparable players getting drafted middle of the first round as you are the end of the second. That is what scares me about a potential trade down with Buffalo unless the return is substantial. I don’t want to be in a spot where the only top tier player left is Derwin James as he may be the one person who doesn’t fill a position of need on this roster because we have Landon Collins



I don't see how you can say there is no Brees, Brady or Rodgers, nobody knows that, Rodgers was drafted #17 or so and we all know where Brady was picked so you really can't make that statement.


Good Post. And where was Brees picked? 32nd overall. So the OP does not see a Brady, Brees or Rodgers, but even Brady, Brees and Rodgers didn't look like Elway, Rivers or Eli Manning.

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Mike in NY : 4/18/2018 7:26 am : link
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Even if I think that the QB’s are being overrated (personally I think there are one or two that may have a ceiling of Eli Manning if developed properly. I do not see a Brady, a Brees, a Rodgers, etc. in this class), there is still plenty of talent. The knock on Barkley is more about the value the NFL places on RB and the overall depth in this year’s draft at the position. The main downside that I see is that after the first 10-12 or so players, you are likely to see comparable players getting drafted middle of the first round as you are the end of the second. That is what scares me about a potential trade down with Buffalo unless the return is substantial. I don’t want to be in a spot where the only top tier player left is Derwin James as he may be the one person who doesn’t fill a position of need on this roster because we have Landon Collins



I don't see how you can say there is no Brees, Brady or Rodgers, nobody knows that, Rodgers was drafted #17 or so and we all know where Brady was picked so you really can't make that statement.



Good Post. And where was Brees picked? 32nd overall. So the OP does not see a Brady, Brees or Rodgers, but even Brady, Brees and Rodgers didn't look like Elway, Rivers or Eli Manning.


Philip Rivers was drafted 4th overall, how many Super Bowls has he won? Rick Mirer? Tim Couch? Jake Locker? There are people here on BBI who have compared this year’s crop to the best of all time just because of how many are projected to be drafted in the Top 12 picks. All I am saying is that I think it is being overrated because, in my personal opinion, there are no perennial Pro Bowl QB’s in this year’s crop. There are some who I think can be long term starters if developed correctly, but not necessarily one who by his presence makes it a great offense even with lesser supporting cast
I think it is a strong draft  
Rjanyg : 4/18/2018 7:27 am : link
All the debate about the QB's is making it seem thin, but I only see to position groups that are underwhelming: WR and OT. Otherwise, QB, RB, TE, C, G, DE, DT, LB, CB and S all seem to have string players at the top and depth into round 3.
From what I ve read and heard  
joeinpa : 4/18/2018 7:35 am : link
It is a weak draft with a precipitous drop off in talent after the first 20 or so picks. Which is why trading down to accumulate picks doesn t seem like the best option to me.

Stay at #2 and get maybe a great player
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Big_Blue_in_the_Bronx : 4/18/2018 7:38 am : link
It's in 8 days
Considering we're picking 2  
UberAlias : 4/18/2018 7:52 am : link
We need there to be 2 blue chippers, that's all. And my sense is we have just than in Darnold and Barkley.
Eli Manning  
Dragon : 4/18/2018 9:08 am : link
Ceiling is well below the Darnold, Rosen and Barkley standing why simple what numbers Eli has put together are about being on the field game after game not the excellence in each game. You can’t tell me if Eli where in this draft class he would not be lacking in almost every physical aspect compared to all of them especially Allen. His numbers would also not be so far ahead of these guys except Allen let’s not kid ourselves Eli will be a HOF for winning two Big ones but not exceptional career performance.
It’s a week from tomorrow  
jeff57 : 4/18/2018 3:19 pm : link
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I wouldn't put TEs and linebackers in as deep positions.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/18/2018 3:24 pm : link
I think it's very possible you don't see a TE go in the first round. the LB group is top heavy, and then a bunch of guys with physical tools.
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