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Rumor: 3 team trade in the works (not sure of validity)

Tom [Giants fan] : 4/18/2018 11:12 am
But I wanted to post this because it is very intriguing. Obviously it is not complete but I guess it is the beginning of what could be?

We are only 10 days away from the 2018 & #8203;NFL Draft. We have heard many different reports as far as which teams will draft whom, and if any will look to move up in the draft.



The New York Jets shifted many big boards when they made a deal with the Indianapolis Colts to leap ahead to pick No. 3 of the first round, but that may not be all. There are now rumors that a massive three-team trade may be in the works.



And this one would flip everything upside down.


Chad Forbes

@NFLDraftBites

Multiple Folks saying #Bills #Giants #Browns working on 3 Team Trade... Browns would slide to 2nd, Bills would land 1st Overall & Giants would slide to 4th or 12th. Heard it from few people.... Browns would be monetizing taking Josh Allen... Remember, it's silly season...

The Cleveland Browns, Buffalo Bills and New York Giants may have something brewing. The Browns would land the Giants' No. 2 overall pick, the Giants would then get the Bills' No. 4 and No. 12 picks, while the Bills would find themselves with the No. 1 overall pick.


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this has a thread with many responses going already  
Torrag : 4/18/2018 11:13 am : link
fyi
Uhh...  
T-Bone : 4/18/2018 11:16 am : link
You must be 10 second Tom from the Adam Sandler movie "50 First Dates". You must've forgotten that there have been a few threads about this rumor from the past few days.
would be incredible for Giants it they land at 4  
Andy in Boston : 4/18/2018 11:19 am : link
they would still get their guy (assuming its Barkley) and get more picks.
LOL!  
T-Bone : 4/18/2018 11:19 am : link
It seems like this rumor has been out there for a week or two.  
wgenesis123 : 4/18/2018 11:19 am : link
Its been like a rolling stone that is not rolling. No momentum but it doesn't seem to go away. Gravity keeps pulling on it.
Wow, 4 and 12 would be beautiful  
Chris684 : 4/18/2018 11:19 am : link
..
Who gets 22?  
adamg : 4/18/2018 11:21 am : link
.
This BS rumor  
UberAlias : 4/18/2018 11:22 am : link
again?
So...the Browns would give up 1 and 4???  
Jarvis : 4/18/2018 11:23 am : link
and get 2 and what?? That seems ridiculous...and when was the last time a 3-way draft day trade happened?
.  
arcarsenal : 4/18/2018 11:26 am : link
Sticking to snow forecasts might be a better idea, after all.
When did the Germans  
Beer Man : 4/18/2018 11:27 am : link
Start making trades?
No way the Browns are doing this unless  
figgy2989 : 4/18/2018 11:34 am : link
They are getting multiple future firsts...they are sitting at 1 and 4 right now.
Do we keep the Saints #1 in this deal or not?  
Mad Mike : 4/18/2018 11:44 am : link
That seems like a pretty important aspect not mentioned.
I think people have more fun dreaming up trades  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/18/2018 12:06 pm : link
than actually watching football games.
What is so wrong with discussing draft trade rumors  
Chris684 : 4/18/2018 12:12 pm : link
on a football website?

The nerve!

Still not sure why 1 is included unless  
George from PA : 4/18/2018 12:20 pm : link
its to save Cleveland some money....as only way Buffalo gets ahead of them....must come with assurances that Buffalo is not taking Clevelands QB.

and no way, Giants get 12 as well..that would go to Cleveland.

My understanding

Buffalo gets 2nd
Giants gets 4 and 22nd
Cleveland moves 8 spots to 12.....and both of Buffalos 2nds....and 2019 1st.
RE: What is so wrong with discussing draft trade rumors  
T-Bone : 4/18/2018 12:24 pm : link
In comment 13918862 Chris684 said:
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on a football website?

The nerve!


Nothing... nor is it a big deal... we just try to cut down on repetitive threads on this site and there's already a few about this very rumor. Tom's a big boy though who's been around for awhile... I think he can handle some good-natured ribbing.
Chad Forbes?  
twostepgiants : 4/18/2018 12:25 pm : link
Chad Forbes
Chad Forbes
@NFLDraftBites
Source very close to Odell Beckham Jr’s Agent Zeke Sandhu... ‘We’ve been talking... OBJ will get 5 Years $100M from the #Rams in the next 4 weeks.’
8:44 PM · Mar 28, 2018
IF The Giants Get Barkley At 4th Overall  
Trainmaster : 4/18/2018 12:25 pm : link
I’m all for this. If the trade causes them to miss out on Barkley, no thank you.

This only works if Cleveland doesn’t want Barkley and one from Allen, Darnold or Rosen, Cleveland is OK with a second choice at QB and Buffalo is in absolute love with 1 and only 1 QB.

I assume Giants end up with 4th and 22nd overall, Cleveland ends up with 2nd and 12th overall plus multiple picks and / or players from Buffalo.
I would imagine it would go like this:  
Knee of Theismann : 4/18/2018 12:30 pm : link
Browns get: #2, #22, both of the Bills' 2018 2nd round picks, both Bills' and Giants' firsts next year.

Giants would get #4 and #12. And maybe the Bills' 2019 2nd rounder?

Bills would have the #1 pick and get the QB they covet.

Then the Giants could take Barkley #4, and if the Giants wanted to they could try to trade up to #7 and get Chubb or Nelson (using one of their 2018 3rd rounders). I think all of that would be worth it to get 2 of the 3 non-QB elite prospects in this draft!
RE: Chad Forbes?  
Jon in NYC : 4/18/2018 12:32 pm : link
In comment 13918893 twostepgiants said:
Quote:
Chad Forbes
Chad Forbes
@NFLDraftBites
Source very close to Odell Beckham Jr’s Agent Zeke Sandhu... ‘We’ve been talking... OBJ will get 5 Years $100M from the #Rams in the next 4 weeks.’
8:44 PM · Mar 28, 2018


He's under contract with the Giants. This is nonsense.
RE: RE: Chad Forbes?  
Mad Mike : 4/18/2018 12:35 pm : link
In comment 13918902 Jon in NYC said:
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He's under contract with the Giants. This is nonsense.

I think twostep's point was to illustrate the lack of credibility in the source of this thread's original post.
Any scenario..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/18/2018 12:37 pm : link
where the Giants give up their 1st rounder next year without replacing it with another 1st rounder is insanity.
I'd say validity zero  
GFAN52 : 4/18/2018 12:38 pm : link
RE: Any scenario..  
Simms11 : 4/18/2018 12:50 pm : link
In comment 13918911 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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where the Giants give up their 1st rounder next year without replacing it with another 1st rounder is insanity.


Yea, I don't understand why the Giants would give anything up anyway, especially a 1st rounder next year. Aren't they moving down in this scenario?
The Giants are going to trade down and have to give up their  
wgenesis123 : 4/18/2018 12:57 pm : link
2019 first round pick? No thank you! I tried to come up with a scenario to make this three-way trade work, not likely. Someone always gets screwed. Its to tough.
genisis....that was a ridiculous comment  
George from PA : 4/18/2018 1:29 pm : link
Giants won't give up their 2019 1st to move back 2 spots....who ever wrote that was mistaken.

this 3 way trade can work and be a win/win/win for everyone as long as Buffalo is truly willing to forgo a slew of picks.....and Cleveland moving back 8 spots for most of those picks.
RE: The Giants are going to trade down and have to give up their  
Big_Blue_in_the_Bronx : 4/18/2018 1:35 pm : link
In comment 13918958 wgenesis123 said:
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2019 first round pick? No thank you! I tried to come up with a scenario to make this three-way trade work, not likely. Someone always gets screwed. Its to tough.


No one gets screwed in the below scenario:

TRADE DOWN SCENARIO #4: 3-WAY TRADE WITH BROWNS AND BILLS + 2nd TRADE WITH DENVER

Cleveland goes from 1 to 2 (3000-2600=400 pts owed)
Cleveland goes from 4 to 12 (1800-1200=600 pts owed)
Cleveland total=1000pts owed

NY goes from 2 to 4 (2600-1800=800pts owed)
NY total=800pts owed

So NY goes to 4 and gets 22 (22=780pts pts)
And Cleveland goes to 2 and 12 and gets 53+ 56+ 65 ( 370+ 340+265 pts=975 pts) and 2019 1st rd pick

As for why this could work:

Strategic Trade Down while still drafting BPA. Yesterday’s 3-team trade rumor has me intrigued because it is win for all 3 teams. Buffalo seems to be willing to trade away the farm to move up for a QB. The Giants seems to be open to a small trade down (not 12) and The Browns 2 biggest needs are QB and LT. They will get the QB with their 1st pick but their 2nd @ 4 is too early for McGlinchey, possibly the best LT in the draft (or Connor Williams/Kolton Miller), so I understand why moving to 12 is not such a bad idea……and getting a ton of extra picks.



GIANTS GIVE PICK #2
GIANTS GET PICKS #4,22 (3rd round 2019)

GIANTS GIVE PICK #4
GIANTS GET PICKS #5,70,113

ROUND 1 Pick 5
Options: LB Tremaine Edmunds, Quentin Nelson, Saquon Barkley , Minkah Fitzpatrick, Bradley Chubb, Baker Mayfield, Josh Allen
Choice: RB Saquon Barkley- QBs go 1-2-3-4 for the first time in draft history. Giants beneficiary of a double trade down and still get top non-QB in entire draft. Home-run threat in 3 phases: run ,pass and special teams. Giants get highest instant impact player in draft to make another run with Eli

ROUND 1 Pick 22
Options: G ISAIAH WYNN, Conor Williams, Jaire Alexander, Courtland Sutton, Leighton Van Der Esch,Rashaan Evans,Harold Landry(16.5 sacks JR year), Isaiah Oliver CB, LT/RT Kolton Miller, James Daniels, Will Hernandez
Choice: OG ISAIAH Wynn- Not quite the pure mauler Willie is but better all around versatility and can play multiple spots on OL at high level


Round 2 pick 2
Options: Will Hernandez OG, James Daniels,Billy Price, Ronnie Harrison, Ronald Jones, Sony Michel, Isaiah Oliver CB, Justin Reid FS
Choice: Isaiah Oliver CB- one of my favorite CBs in this entire draft. Tremendous smarts,coverage ability, and very long arms. NFL Comp: Nnamdi Asomugha with the Raiders.


Round 3 pick 2
Options:Lorenzo Carter,Kyle Lauletta, Frank Ragnow ,Josh Sweat, Darius leonard
Choice:LB Lorenzo Carter -toolsy LB with size and speed in the Leonard Floyd mold , edge rushing potential as well


ROUND 3 Pick 5
Options: Quentin Meeks,Shaquem Griffen, Leonard Davis, Kellen Ballage, Rashaad Penny, Kemeko Turay
Choice: EDGE Kemeko Turay- Pass rusher oozing with potential. Blocked 3 kicks and had 7.5 sacks (as a freshman!)



ROUND 3 Pick 6
Options: Kyle Lauletta,Quentin Meeks,Shaquem Griffen, Lorenzo Carter, Shaquem Griffin,Oren Burks, Darius Leonard
Choice: QB Kyle Lauletta- Another coach on the field. Senior Bowl MVP. Outside the 1st round Qbs Giants paid most interest to him. insurance behind Webb once Eli retires with some upside.


2019 3rd rd pick
Why do..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/18/2018 3:19 pm : link
you keep posting that scenario with mocked picks?

It's like the 5th time I've seen it and there are a shitload of assumptions and reaches in logic.
jeez a week from tomorrow night  
micky : 4/18/2018 4:13 pm : link
cant get here fast enough to finally end all these ridiculous dream trades, or, the "sources say the giants are high on (add either of the popular players here) ________.", mantra. etc etc etc.


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