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NFT: New York Mets vs. Walgreens Nationals - Game 3 - Avoid Sweep

arcarsenal : 4/18/2018 6:46 pm
Let's try this again.

Conforto, CF
Cespedes, LF
Cabrera, 2B
Bruce, RF
Frazier, 3B
Gonzalez, 1B
Lobaton, C
Matz, P
Rosario, SS

Plawecki will travel with the team to ATL - don't know if there's any shot he plays (guessing not much of one) but he's got to be at least getting closer if that's the case.

This series has fucking sucked so far and ATL isn't going to be easier. We need to salvage this thing tonight and leave off on a good note.

Big difference being 4 games up after tonight rather than 2.

Let's grind one out, boys.

#LGM



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Fuck you  
Pete in MD : 4/18/2018 9:40 pm : link
Nats broadcast team. They never stop chirping but had no comment for the turning point of the game.
RE: RE: No bullshit tonight  
arcarsenal : 4/18/2018 9:41 pm : link
In comment 13919668 Shecky said:
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In comment 13919663 Rflairr said:


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Familla




LOL. This is good.
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arcarsenal : 4/18/2018 9:41 pm : link
Let's go, Scooter! Bust it open.
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arcarsenal : 4/18/2018 9:46 pm : link
Great AB, Mikey.

This isn't quite as bad as our 8th inning in Game 1 - but it's good enough payback for me if we can hang on and take this one.
Seriously  
Pete in MD : 4/18/2018 9:48 pm : link
FP never stops talking but was completely silent for Juan's game-changing double. Total amateur
RE: Seriously  
arcarsenal : 4/18/2018 9:48 pm : link
In comment 13919683 Pete in MD said:
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FP never stops talking but was completely silent for Juan's game-changing double. Total amateur


I honestly feel bad that you have to listen to them - I had to do it a couple times and they're absolutely brutal.
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arcarsenal : 4/18/2018 9:51 pm : link
CES!!!!

Grand fucking Slam.

Looks like we woke up.
Grand slam!  
JayBinQueens : 4/18/2018 9:51 pm : link
With authority
This inning is great!  
Metnut : 4/18/2018 9:51 pm : link
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That had to feel  
Stufftherun : 4/18/2018 9:52 pm : link
good on many levels. So cathartic and really needed this one before heading out on the road.
Monday  
Beezer : 4/18/2018 9:53 pm : link
Erased
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arcarsenal : 4/18/2018 9:55 pm : link
Forget the Mets... I needed that as a fan.

We definitely one upped their 8th inning from Monday.

I think we're safe here with a 7 run lead.. knock on wood. Let's close the door.
Send a message  
Shecky : 4/18/2018 9:57 pm : link
And hit the fucker!!
Ces  
Pete in MD : 4/18/2018 9:58 pm : link
just showing what he can do. Don’t give him something to hit.
it's more than symbolic that Frazier got the big hit there  
Eric on Li : 4/18/2018 9:59 pm : link
his addition was the one that brought some optimism to the offseason and not to put too much on him, but his ability to take big at bats (in addition to Conforto and Cespedes) and deliver will go a long to getting this team over the tipping point of 80 win team --> 90 win team.
I can finally forget about Monday  
Everyone Relax : 4/18/2018 10:03 pm : link
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RE: RE: Seriously  
Pete in MD : 4/18/2018 10:03 pm : link
In comment 13919686 arcarsenal said:
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In comment 13919683 Pete in MD said:


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FP never stops talking but was completely silent for Juan's game-changing double. Total amateur



I honestly feel bad that you have to listen to them - I had to do it a couple times and they're absolutely brutal.

The two assholes were really excited by Zimmerman’s meaningless HR in the 9th. It makes me really appreciate the Mets crew who know baseball and aren’t just embarrassing cheerleaders.
Important early game...  
DonQuixote : 4/18/2018 10:03 pm : link
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Hey, is everyone okay?  
PhiPsi125 : 4/18/2018 10:06 pm : link
What happened?
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arcarsenal : 4/18/2018 10:08 pm : link
Needed to see that fight and resolve at some point in this series.

Sorry I've been such a fucking negative nancy on these threads - I just hate missed opportunities and the first two games + 7 innings of this game were massively frustrating.

Not even mad that WSH took 2 of 3 - just really did not want to get swept and have the team leave this homestand feeling like they erased a lot of the great baseball they played before it.

ATL is going to be a major pain in the ass methinks - so we're going to have our hands full down there.
also unsung hero moment - Cespedes baserunning on tying run  
Eric on Li : 4/18/2018 10:09 pm : link
that was a very close play at the plate and he not only got an awesome jump at 2nd but cut the corner and got his hand in there. His jump at 2nd started with the pitch and if he was even half a step behind he was out.
Message sent!  
Pete in MD : 4/18/2018 10:10 pm : link
This team has talent!
Who else didn’t think we would score again after we tied the game  
PhiPsi125 : 4/18/2018 10:18 pm : link
and had the bases loaded? And then realized that we had a tie game and the only pinch hitter left was Nido.

*raises hand*
Mets win sky is no longer falling  
steve in ky : 4/18/2018 10:20 pm : link
Nice win.
RE: Who else didn’t think we would score again after we tied the game  
arcarsenal : 4/18/2018 10:22 pm : link
In comment 13919732 PhiPsi125 said:
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and had the bases loaded? And then realized that we had a tie game and the only pinch hitter left was Nido.

*raises hand*


After the Wilmer AB I definitely didn't think we were going to score again.
Chipper Jr hurt  
Rflairr : 4/18/2018 10:26 pm : link
That’s a break for this series
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arcarsenal : 4/18/2018 10:36 pm : link
Sort of random - but I thought the pre/post shows were going to suffer when Bobby O didn't get his contract renewed - but Figgy is fantastic.

For the Rangers fans here - he reminds me of Valiquette just as far as the insight and points he makes. He's really great in this spot. I enjoy hearing his takes.
Best win of the year..  
Sean : 4/18/2018 10:37 pm : link
this win showed me a lot. Battled back. 13-4!
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arcarsenal : 4/18/2018 11:28 pm : link
Ugh Swarzak shut down. Still having pain/discomfort.

Not in dire need of him right now but was looking forward to getting him back. Seems like this is going to be one of those things that lingers for a while.

Turning down Kipnis for Sewald actually looks kind of smart right now given how good Sewald has been in the early going and Kipnis is off to a pretty rough start while Cabrera has been tearing the cover off the ball.
RE: .  
Eric on Li : 4/18/2018 11:38 pm : link
In comment 13919793 arcarsenal said:
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Ugh Swarzak shut down. Still having pain/discomfort.

Not in dire need of him right now but was looking forward to getting him back. Seems like this is going to be one of those things that lingers for a while.

Turning down Kipnis for Sewald actually looks kind of smart right now given how good Sewald has been in the early going and Kipnis is off to a pretty rough start while Cabrera has been tearing the cover off the ball.


Yeah with the way Cabrera has been turning double plays, I'm good with the way things worked out vs. 3 years of Kipinis. I like Kipinis and he would have been a better fit hitting leadoff, but coming off the injury and adjusting to NY might have been tough.
Sewald is  
ZGiants98 : 4/19/2018 12:14 am : link
good.
HUGE win!  
Vanzetti : 4/19/2018 12:32 am : link
Todd Frazier comes up big again. What a terrific signing.

Lagares drives in the go ahead runs. Great start to the season for him.

Conforto off to a bit of a rough start but good ABs at crucial times. That walk was key.

Cespedes: 17 RBIs in 17 games. Nuff said.
Glad to be wrong  
gmenatlarge : 4/19/2018 6:44 am : link
about the sweep, now let's see if this team has the stuff to go back to winning ways.
Just to echo what was said about the Nats broadcasters  
Mike from Ohio : 4/19/2018 8:58 am : link
They are horrendous! They went through that 8th inning talking about Madson like he was giving some sort of heroic effort and doing a great job. Couldn't stop talking about how you can't question the decision to bring him in there.

The guy just came into the 8th inning with a 2 run lead and gave up 6 runs. But bringing him in was the right call, and he pitched really well.

I had to remind myself the Nats aren't owned by Daniel Snyder, and he was probably not standing behind them with a knife to their throats while they called the game.
Not to get on anyone in particular whatsoever  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/19/2018 9:09 am : link
but a 12-1 start should have bought a little more confidence than to have people start freaking out after two bad games against a team they will be battling for the division. And I was as upset as anyone after that horrible inning.
RE: Just to echo what was said about the Nats broadcasters  
Pete in MD : 4/19/2018 9:15 am : link
In comment 13920032 Mike from Ohio said:
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They are horrendous! They went through that 8th inning talking about Madson like he was giving some sort of heroic effort and doing a great job. Couldn't stop talking about how you can't question the decision to bring him in there.

The guy just came into the 8th inning with a 2 run lead and gave up 6 runs. But bringing him in was the right call, and he pitched really well.

I had to remind myself the Nats aren't owned by Daniel Snyder, and he was probably not standing behind them with a knife to their throats while they called the game.

I could go on about this forever. Then the post-game show comes on and has "The Voice of the Maryland Terrapins" Johnny Holliday and 1986 Mets' hero Ray Knight both pretending that the Nats getting blown out in the game was actually a good thing in the long run. You could tell they didn't even believe what they were being told to say. It just comes off as minor league stuff. Maybe we're spoiled by the Mets having some of the best broadcast crews in the business, going back to their inception.
About as big of  
Metnut : 4/19/2018 9:19 am : link
an April win as you can get. Getting swept at home by the Nationals while missing Scherzer and Strasburg and with the Nationals missing huge parts of their lineup would've undone a lot of goodwill from the hot start. Now, we have a 4 game lead. The NL East is going to be tough this year. Philly and Atlanta both look like young teams that are going to be at or above .500.

Matz really settled down too after the first inning. It's really going to be interesting to follow how these guys fight for rotation spots.
RE: Not to get on anyone in particular whatsoever  
PhiPsi125 : 4/19/2018 9:22 am : link
In comment 13920061 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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but a 12-1 start should have bought a little more confidence than to have people start freaking out after two bad games against a team they will be battling for the division. And I was as upset as anyone after that horrible inning.


A 12-1 start doesn’t erase decades of disappointment. I agree with you but also completely understand the lack of confidence some (most?) mets fans have.
What a nice surprise  
pjcas18 : 4/19/2018 9:30 am : link
got off the train to drive home from the train station Mets losing, look listless, get home to see they've won.

I don't get as emotional with every win and loss as I did when I was younger, but I did get a good night's sleep.

Just because the team  
Metnut : 4/19/2018 9:30 am : link
starts 12-1 doesn't mean that fans are going to stop getting upset at losses. Especially to the division title favorite. We've had a great start to the season and that's going to hopefully go a long way to keeping us in the mix all year, but it doesn't mean I'm not going to get excited at wins like last night and go a little crazy over games like Monday. That's part of being a fan IMO.
Great comeback win  
sshin05 : 4/19/2018 9:44 am : link
You can tell they really wanted this one bad. Frazier is getting on base like never before. i'm beginning to think he should lead off if Nimmo isnt.
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GiantFilthy : 4/19/2018 9:47 am : link
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Chipper Jr hurt
Rflairr : 4/18/2018 10:26 pm : link : reply
That’s a break for this series

I hate baseball.
RE: Not to get on anyone in particular whatsoever  
arcarsenal : 4/19/2018 9:49 am : link
In comment 13920061 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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but a 12-1 start should have bought a little more confidence than to have people start freaking out after two bad games against a team they will be battling for the division. And I was as upset as anyone after that horrible inning.


I have absolutely been way too dramatic and unhinged the last couple of days which isn't usually my MO - that loss Monday really just fucking bothered me. I'm just scarred when it comes to this team. Every time things start to look bleak, I immediately assume the worst.

I'm basically just trained to after suffering through countless years of disappointment.

The Wainwright curveball. Sitting at Shea on the final day of 2007 watching the Marlins dance on our field after capping one of the worst chokes in regular season history, then watching almost an exact repeat the very next year... in person again.

Familia quick pitching Gordon... Murphy booting the ball... Duda throwing to home and missing by 5 feet.. ugh.

Even after such a great start, I keep waiting for the other shoe to drop.

Anyway - I trust Mickey and the vet leadership on this team right now. The 2015 team eventually earned my faith and confidence (even though it took a while) - this one will too.

Cannot say enough how important Todd Frazier has been - that's the type of presence that keeps things from getting too low and we haven't had that around here much at all the last decade+.

Let's keep it rolling. Another big series with the Barves. Their rebuild is getting closer and they're starting to look like a pretty solid team again so they're going to be a pain in the ass.
RE: Just because the team  
Rory : 4/19/2018 9:54 am : link
In comment 13920141 Metnut said:
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starts 12-1 doesn't mean that fans are going to stop getting upset at losses. Especially to the division title favorite. We've had a great start to the season and that's going to hopefully go a long way to keeping us in the mix all year, but it doesn't mean I'm not going to get excited at wins like last night and go a little crazy over games like Monday. That's part of being a fan IMO.


Anyone can be a fan but part of being a "Educated fan" is to relax and not be so overly critical of every single call/decision in the game.

Mickey Callaway was hired for 2 reasons

1. To win a world series
2. To keep players healthy to win a world series

To complete that effort he needs to "over-manage" as what I have read here on a daily basis. I would rather lose 1 game then lose a key player for several weeks.

The Mets have a disappointing culture but to act like that culture can not be improved on and changed is not accurate. Look at the Cubs, Astros, Nationals
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arcarsenal : 4/19/2018 10:08 am : link
Eh, the way people react to things during a game doesn't say much about how "educated" they are as a fan.

I think I've watched a pretty fair amount of baseball in my life... doesn't mean I won't get caught up in the midst of an important game once in a while. Shit happens, man.
I think comments made  
Metnut : 4/19/2018 10:10 am : link
in the heat of a game should be taken differently than comments made the morning after or during an off day. I've always considered in-game comments to be more a stream of consciousness type of thing rather than an attempt at educated analysis. Yea, game threads have both, and but instant reactions to stuff that happens is part of the fun of the threads.
RE: RE: Just because the team  
PhiPsi125 : 4/19/2018 10:33 am : link
In comment 13920226 Rory said:
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The Mets have a disappointing culture but to act like that culture can not be improved on and changed is not accurate. Look at the Cubs, Astros, Nationals


I guess my point is, that getting the fans to buy into a changed culture takes time. It certainly isn't going to happen over a 13 game span off mostly decades of disappointment with a year or two of success sprinkled in.

Cubs and Astros both won a WS. That goes a long way to helping change the culture. And furthermore, they continue their winning ways helping to cement that culture. Not sure why the Nats are there. Their fans are just as nuts and the Nats have won squat.

The Mets reach the postseason once every ten years. And they typically suck horribly every year in between. Win the division for a couple of years in a row, maybe win a WS...sustain any type of actual success and THEN fans will buy into a culture change. Just like the Cubs.
Just like the Astros. Until then, this is what the Mets Franchise has earned.
Tyler O Neil  
Shecky : 4/19/2018 10:42 am : link
Called up by Cards :(
RE: Tyler O Neil  
Eric on Li : 4/19/2018 12:13 pm : link
In comment 13920376 Shecky said:
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Called up by Cards :(


Yeah that one looks like it may have been a miss. Drew Smith is interesting, but O'Neil is crushing the ball.
RE: also unsung hero moment - Cespedes baserunning on tying run  
DonQuixote : 4/19/2018 5:09 pm : link
In comment 13919724 Eric on Li said:
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that was a very close play at the plate and he not only got an awesome jump at 2nd but cut the corner and got his hand in there. His jump at 2nd started with the pitch and if he was even half a step behind he was out.


Yes, agreed. I think he would have been safe even if the throw was caught cleanly, but it would have been close. Nice base running.
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