NFT: New York Mets vs. Walgreens Nationals - Game 3 - Avoid Sweep

But he is now OFFICIALLY a firefly. Fun team to follow now ;)

LOL.. can't even get out of the first inning.

This was so easy to see coming.

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nonsense. The Mets need to make a statement here. If the Nat's sweep us they still own us. Don't discount the psychology here. We have been their bi_ch for a long time now. We need to make a statement tonight. I thought we were past this with the sweep down in D.C. but I guess not. Last year it was Dusty Baker running up the score with 20 runs in one game and keeping his starters in to hit lasers against Plawecki. What did Collins do....nothing. No knock down pitches...nothing. We need to man up against this team and show some backbone.

need to move Matz to the bullpen when Vargas comes back and keep Wheeler in the rotation. He is just so disappointing every start

Get Lugo warm because Matz might not even get out of this inning.

Harvey or Matz have to be the ones Vargas replaces. I think Wheeler is a better option than both right now.

gutless!!!!!! Teams that care about winning (Red Sox/Yankees) don't take this sitting down. You would see a brawl started by the team getting pushed around. Not our Metsies. No knock down pitches no fisticuffs no life...we just roll over and take it.

In comment 13919484 arcarsenal said:

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Harvey or Matz have to be the ones Vargas replaces. I think Wheeler is a better option than both right now.

I think it has to be Matz. He still has options, right? He's got to get the homers under control.

In comment 13919491 Chris L. said:

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gutless!!!!!! Teams that care about winning (Red Sox/Yankees) don't take this sitting down. You would see a brawl started by the team getting pushed around. Not our Metsies. No knock down pitches no fisticuffs no life...we just roll over and take it.

Get this garbage out of the thread.

In comment 13919492 Eric on Li said:

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In comment 13919484 arcarsenal said: Quote: Harvey or Matz have to be the ones Vargas replaces. I think Wheeler is a better option than both right now. I think it has to be Matz. He still has options, right? He's got to get the homers under control.

I think so. Neither guy can throw a pitch past the 5th inning, so one has to be removed because we can't have these guys pitching back to back and putting this type of strain on the pen with or without our nice little shuttle service.

Anyway, this is the team I expected this year. Feeble, shitty AB's. Still getting owned by the fucking Nats in our own park. Teams running wild on us. All that fun stuff.

Ugh.

that we only had two starters that we could count on to be good. Harvey and Matz don’t look a lot better than last year over a short sample. Maybe Wheeler and Gsellmen might be better options.

In comment 13919498 arcarsenal said:

I think so. Neither guy can throw a pitch past the 5th inning, so one has to be removed because we can't have these guys pitching back to back and putting this type of strain on the pen with or without our nice little shuttle service.

Anyway, this is the team I expected this year. Feeble, shitty AB's. Still getting owned by the fucking Nats in our own park. Teams running wild on us. All that fun stuff.

Ugh. [/quote]

It's not as bad as they've looked the last 2 nights and it's not as good as they looked the first 12.5 games. Cespedes and Coforto are the only guys who can qualify as "studs", and the reality is top lineups have more than that. So Frazier/Bruce being cold, Rosario slumping, the catchers, etc.

Much better inning for Matz here - but the bats have to get going. It's fucking Tanner Roark.

Absolutely no excuses to get swept when Rendon, Murphy, and Eaton are all out of the lineup AND we miss Max + Stras. Not acceptable.

So he’ll have a whole knew team to listen to all his excuses for his crappy output. Matz is a lefty so that automatically gives him more rope. But I don’t like his makeup either. Lugo and Gsellman are planting the seeds for their runs in the rotation.

I definitely didn't expect the Mets to keep on the pace they were on - I said several times during the stretch that we were going to hit a rough patch sooner than later.

It's just really grinding at me that we had such a golden opportunity going into this series to put a huge gap between us and WSH while they were ailing a bit and not at 100% and instead, we let them right back into the race.

I can deal with losing to Gio.. we can never hit him.

But losing a deGrom start when Journeyman Jeremy is on the mound for the Nats and all those key guys are out of the lineup really turned the tide here.

Things aren't going to get any easier when we go to ATL. This team started 12-2 and might not even be in first place anymore within a week. That sucks.

Batting Average was like .238. The Mets fit right in that mold. It’s a long season and we were never running away with it. Would’ve have been nice to have some of these hitters maintain healthy production to start the season but that wasn’t meant to be.

This only sucks more because it’s the Nationals and they’ve owned the division with relative ease the last five years or so (minus 2005). But their is a reason they can’t get out of the first round of the playoffs. Easy to boost up the sexy wins number when you get to beat up on a shitty division each year.

We swept them the first series and they didn’t have their excuse of being without Rendon and Eaton then. The Mets can hang with the Nats. All is good. Just ride out this bump and Mickey can’t let Harvey and Matz pitch us out of games.

but as they say, it's not just who you play, but when you play them. Just so happens it's the F'ing Nats in town playing a team with ice cold bats. Obviously the Matz isn't helping matters and to be honest I'll never have any degree of confidence in him ever putting it all together.

Wheeler and Matz look like 3 and 4 starters to me. Matz seems to have settled in much like Wheeler last night. The lineup is ice fucking cold.

Just gave up a run in the 4th inning:

4 4 1 1 2 2
55P 36K
8GO 2FO

Whoa! A hit with RISP! I almost forgot what that looked like.

LOL. Zimmerman is a fucking mess trying to throw a baseball.

Jeez, yanking Matz already? I would have let him hit here.

Matz looked like he was in a groove. Not sure I would have pulled him. This bullpen hasn’t looked good this week

Wtf. Hope this pays off.

Roark having an absolute meltdown

Unbelievable. A fucking DP. Of course.

Let him right off the hook and now PHing for Matz is all for naught.

Panic managing tonight. Jeesh this isn’t the playoffs dude

Roark really should have been tossed by now. Cmon man. The guy has been barking at this umpire non stop.

Now everything going wrong. Rosario, the fastest Mets, hits a gidp with bases loaded. Unbelievable

5 4 1 1 2 3k
65P 44K
9 GO 2 FO

with Matz, look at the splits below and tell me what inning stands out.

I'd hope guys with the pedigree of Callway and Eiland can figure this out. For a pitcher whose barely seen the 7th inning (or beyond) the 1st shouldn't be so hard.

His 3rd innings aren't great either, though.

He looked like he was really settled in - so I would have let him keep going to see how much further he could have gone but had him on a short leash.

That said, Sewald looks fantastic - so, it's not hurting us at all thus far.

the Mets this game besides the anemic offense (2 f-ing hits through 5 against Tanner Roark?) is Matz regular 1st inning bullshit.

Excellent debut by Peterson tonight. Through lots of strikes, not helped by his defense, but did s great job pitching through it. Stiff wind out to right didn’t matter because all they could do was pound it into the ground. Nice job young man.

So far, after the terrible loss, they have shown zero. Still three innings left. Let’s go Mets!!

Bruce is such a shitty fielder. Ugh.

You cannot let that fucking ball get by you.

Another out wasted in Reyes. He looks absolutely LOST.

easy outs in this lineup right now. Just brutal to watch!

4 2 3 2 3B SB (Home)

Matz completely melted down. It was an infield hit, a walk to Harper, and one mistake pitch to Zimmerman.

Just an unfortunate sequence than it was bad pitching.

Might be cooking here.

Bases loaded... 0 out.

Here come the shitty AB's now.

Fucking FINALLY.

Fraze!

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Let’s go!!!

Have to have to have to take the lead here.

Cannot leave this inning tied when we have the bases juiced with one out.

Awful

In comment 13919657 Rflairr said:

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Awful

Yup. Zero discipline. Went up there hacking away like a chicken with his head cut off and gave Madson an easy out.

Terrible.