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As far as the quality of the player, Barber sees a gem in Barkley, and not only for what he can do in the running game and passing game. Barber was there when Eli Manning broke in in 2004 and sees Saquon Barkley rejuvenating the back end of Mannings career. Thats when Eli has been at his best, when hes had a great run game to complement what he does, Barber said. When you look at the totality, this is why the Giants drafting a quarterback doesnt make sense. You dont need one right now. Its not like Eli is decrepit and he cant move and he cant throw the out-route and the go-route anymore. He can do all of those things, he just hasnt had time to. |
If you have an opportunity and you cant move out of that pick, Saquon Barkley is the best player in this draft, Barber said. Physically he is a freak. Mentally and emotionally hes solid. I would love to see him come to the Giants.
You may or may not be correct, but you STILL have to find a willing trading partner
I'm not sure Shurmur wants a power back or game. Nor do I think even with Nelson the Giants O-Line can run a power game.
Seems to me Shurmur wants a more multi dimensional RB, and likes to use them in the passing game. Barkley fits much better IMO.
I'd love to see them add to the O-Line in Rd 2.though.
Totally agree.
Teamed with OBJ,Shepard and Engram it'd be a fun O to watch. Throw in whoever they go with at WR2, it could be really dynamic.
Did Tiki change his thoughts on Eli and I missed it?
It's a possibility
I saw an interview with Colin Cowherd and Jason Sehorn
where Sehorn made the same argument as Tiki and Sehorn
also thinks there is too much potential for a QB controversy
and a split in the team if the Giant take a QB at #2.......
I saw an interview with Colin Cowherd and Jason Sehorn
where Sehorn made the same argument as Tiki and Sehorn
also thinks there is too much potential for a QB controversy
and a split in the team if the Giant take a QB at #2.......
If your conviction is in fact strong on a QB, the last thing you worry about is a QB controversy, imv
Did Tiki change his thoughts on Eli and I missed it?
It's a possibility
That whole thing was mostly a media creation anyway. Nothing Tiki said was intended to be malicious but that's how the media made it look.
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Props for Eli from Tiki?
Did Tiki change his thoughts on Eli and I missed it?
It's a possibility
That whole thing was mostly a media creation anyway. Nothing Tiki said was intended to be malicious but that's how the media made it look.
Lol yeah right.
His true take on that
His true take on that
He gave it at the time...essentially rolled his eyes at Tiki questioning someone elses leadership abilities
Guess he is looking for a job
I understand that Kamara and Hunt were drafted in the 2nd and 3rd rounds, that doesn't mean you pass in Barkley to pick a different back. Look at Fournette. He is helping turn Jacksonville into a playoff team. He took a lot of pressure off of Bortles and now Bortles has a contract extension. Funny how everyone wanted Eli to be traded to Jac because they had a great defense and a great running game, but now some Giant fans think we can't win with Eli if we add Barkley and rebuild the O Line and get the defense back on track.
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But in a deep RB class I'm not sure you pick him at two. I think Derrius Guice is a much better fit for Giants. A more explosive version of Bradshaw. Runs angry. Trade back to five, grab Nelson and picks, do what it takes to get Guice and lets play some power football.
You may or may not be correct, but you STILL have to find a willing trading partner
Guess he is looking for a job
My point is, at the time Tiki was trying to launch a career in media, but he couldnt hide some arrogance and bitterness in his early comments about Eli and Coughlin - thats what I took as somewhat malicious.
Loved Tiki the player, one of our all time greats. Tiki the person? Eh.
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In comment 13919524 lono801 said:
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Props for Eli from Tiki?
Did Tiki change his thoughts on Eli and I missed it?
It's a possibility
That whole thing was mostly a media creation anyway. Nothing Tiki said was intended to be malicious but that's how the media made it look.
Lol yeah right.
I watched the whole segment live and didn't feel it was malicious or controversial. Next day the media goes nuts.
Its funny you should say that... I can't remember if it was Snee or O'hara (probably O'hara since he is in the media now) cam out saying how much he liked Nelson!
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and think that the Giants should take Barkley
I saw an interview with Colin Cowherd and Jason Sehorn
where Sehorn made the same argument as Tiki and Sehorn
also thinks there is too much potential for a QB controversy
and a split in the team if the Giant take a QB at #2.......
If your conviction is in fact strong on a QB, the last thing you worry about is a QB controversy, imv
Then again big blue everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face.........LOL
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In comment 13919538 NikkiMac said:
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and think that the Giants should take Barkley
I saw an interview with Colin Cowherd and Jason Sehorn
where Sehorn made the same argument as Tiki and Sehorn
also thinks there is too much potential for a QB controversy
and a split in the team if the Giant take a QB at #2.......
If your conviction is in fact strong on a QB, the last thing you worry about is a QB controversy, imv
Then again big blue everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face.........LOL
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I understand that Kamara and Hunt were drafted in the 2nd and 3rd rounds, that doesn't mean you pass in Barkley to pick a different back. Look at Fournette. He is helping turn Jacksonville into a playoff team. He took a lot of pressure off of Bortles and now Bortles has a contract extension. Funny how everyone wanted Eli to be traded to Jac because they had a great defense and a great running game, but now some Giant fans think we can't win with Eli if we add Barkley and rebuild the O Line and get the defense back on track.
I don't want to be rude, but you really do not understand that Kamara and Hunt were picked in the 2 and 3rd rounds because if you did you would not be trotting out Fournette, who had a worse season then Kamara and Hunt. Fournette averaged 3.9 YPC, Kamara racked up like 6 ypc and had 800 yards receiving. Hunt also had a better season than Fournette. Plus, Jacksonville had already put the pieces together to draft someone like Fournette that high. When we have the talent they have on their roster on ours, then talk to me about drafting a RB this high.
No, I never saw that! Seriously?!
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Does anyone else remember Tiki, as a member of the media team covering the Olympics, calling his female cohort a "c#nt" on National TV?
Ok, I just watched that and it seems he misspoke when trying to say "medal count." That's kind of unfair.