QB sets you back 5 years if you miss.
Have to stay with the value of your board.
Valuing of the RB is a myth, he immediately makes your QB and offensive line better.
Ryan Dunleavy
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20s20 seconds ago
Gettleman on Josh Rosen: "He is bright, insightful. Wants to play football." Shoots down popular narrative on #UCLA QB. #nfldraft
This is actually interesting, because earlier in the PC, he said specifically "I don't want guys that like to play football, I want guys that gate to lose".
I don't think that's what he meant. I believe he reallly doesn't know whi he prefers yet. He's going to take all the time he has knowing what a huge decision this is for the franchise. He'll probably go to bed the night before the draft with a final idea and sleep on it and see how he feels about it in the morning.
he is going to row of 3, most likely at the top of Giants board is going to be a QB/RB/DE (pass rusher). Then need will come into play so they fill highest rated on board with highest value of their given need. Interesting.
I feel DG loves the back and forth with media and has a genuinely relaxed easy going personality to boot, funny guy!
most definitely doesn't have a relaxed easy-going personality, but the guy loves to discuss football. Start getting into any other subjects, especially about off the field stuff and he gets testy and can clam up.
Football and food he'll banter with the reporters all day about.
considering it's a direct interview with the guy that's making the pick one week from today, and probably the most direct insight into what the org is thinking.
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Gettleman: Picking the wrong QB is a 5-year mistake. Compared the top QBs as having lots of flavors at Ben and Jerrys. He adds that if a QB cant make plays from the pocket you cant win.
Can Eli make plays from the pocket any more?, he certainly can't Escape.
He just reiterated that "missing on a QB is a five year mistake". Don't get too big a woody just yet, it also applies to picking the wrong QB.
I would argue that missing on any player with a top 3 pick is at least a 3 year mistake--unless you're fortunate enough to be able to cover up their weaknesses the way the Rams seemed to do last year with Greg Robinson. The flip side is, hitting on a QB is often a 10 + year success that allows you to build around him for a decade. And DG said, it's the second pick, you can't miss. Doesn't matter what position it is, a miss is going to set the franchise back a handful of years at least. I would say though that as for QBs, the rookie salary cap makes the miss less devastating than pre-rookie cap days.
Darnold is 1A but probably going first overall.
Barkley is 1B and is probably a made man in NY in a week.
So Im saying I agree.
Beckham, Shepard, Engram, Barkley, Eli....
most positions you know what you have pretty soon. On QBs that isnt the case. One to two years to get on the field, then a couple of years to know if they can really play. That isnt true of other positions.
while really saying not much (which is exactly what he should have done). Some interesting takeaways.
Started the press conference by saying he didn't want guys who like to play football, but guys who hate to lose. When asked about Rosen, he said "he wants to play football."
Barkely is a guy his mother could scout. An incredible talent.
Sounds like they still use "rows" based on draft grades and don't look too far outside that about who may be available later when deciding between multiple prospects.
The college game is so different now that much of the player evaluation is on instincts, effort, and physicality. Harder to rate guys on specific skills when you don't know what they are asked to do, or what they have been taught. Interesting example about an LB not being able to shed blocks "maybe he was never taught that. That's a skill we can teach."
doesnt seem to realize the game has evolved and he wants to play 3 yards and a cloud of dust on offense
Funny, I don't watch much college FB, but 3 yards and a cloud of dust doesn't seem to describe a. Barkley, b. Shurmer or c. what Shurmer's Giants offense would be with Barkley, OBJ, et. al.
Have to stay with the value of your board.
Valuing of the RB is a myth, he immediately makes your QB and offensive line better.
Ryan Dunleavy
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51s51 seconds ago
Gettleman says devaluing of RBs is a myth. Makes your QB better, your passing game better. #Giants #NFLDraft
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45s45 seconds ago
Gettleman on Eli Manning: He takes great care of himself. Hes very fit. He still has plenty of arm. #NYGiants
Paul Schwartz
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43s43 seconds ago
Gettleman admits its a consideration balancing drafting a player who can make an immediate impact vs. someone (QB) who would not contribute in 2018.
Ryan Dunleavy
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49s50 seconds ago
Gettleman said it is "hogwash" that you have to draft a QB at No. 2 #NFLDraft
I am confident in whatever he decides.
Matt Lombardo
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29s29 seconds ago
Dave Gettleman open to everything when it comes to trading out of the No. 2 pick. Weve had calls. #Giants #NFL
Dan Duggan
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27s27 seconds ago
Gettleman says Saquon Barkley "is one of those guys my mother could have scouted." Calls him a tremendous talent.
Loved this part. Not really much to scout on Barkely, hes a tremendous talent....
Matt Lombardo
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6s6 seconds ago
Dave Gettleman: I have no intention of trading future draft picks to move up in this draft. None. #Giants #NFLDraft
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2m2 minutes ago
Bob Glauber Retweeted Kimberley A. Martin
Dave Gettleman confirms. Also doesnt close the door on signing Dez Bryant.
Ryan Dunleavy
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51s51 seconds ago
Gettleman says devaluing of RBs is a myth. Makes your QB better, your passing game better. #Giants #NFLDraft
Thank you!!
What the fuck?
jintz4life : 2:23 pm : link : reply
doesnt seem to realize the game has evolved and he wants to play 3 yards and a cloud of dust on offense
Matt Lombardo
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43s44 seconds ago
Dave Gettleman says he doesnt know who the #Giants are taking. Doesnt know if hes taking a quarterback. #NFLDraft
Ryan Dunleavy
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20s20 seconds ago
Gettleman on Josh Rosen: "He is bright, insightful. Wants to play football." Shoots down popular narrative on #UCLA QB. #nfldraft
Ryan Dunleavy
Verified account @rydunleavy
20s20 seconds ago
Gettleman on Josh Rosen: "He is bright, insightful. Wants to play football." Shoots down popular narrative on #UCLA QB. #nfldraft
This is actually interesting, because earlier in the PC, he said specifically "I don't want guys that like to play football, I want guys that gate to lose".
Yup, I like listening to him. He enjoys the back and forth with the press
How could he? He doesnt know who cleveland is taking...
"I don't want guys that like to play football, I want guys that gate to lose".
I think he said something like:
I don't want guys that like to win, I want guys who hate to lose..
Something like that.
Quote:
...he doesn't yet know who he's going to pick if he stays at #2.
How could he? He doesnt know who cleveland is taking...
Very true.
Gentleman sounds like a guy you are talking with in a bar.
Reese sound like someone is checking his prostate
I feel DG loves the back and forth with media and has a genuinely relaxed easy going personality to boot, funny guy!
Football and food he'll banter with the reporters all day about.
The remark about being able to "boil water" seems like a reference to Apple.
I agree that he seems like a jovial, fun, guy.
Profanities about Reese are wrong.
Ryan Dunleavy
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49s50 seconds ago
Gettleman said it is "hogwash" that you have to draft a QB at No. 2 #NFLDraft
Don't tell that to BBI.
Jordan Raanan
Verified account @JordanRaanan
15s15 seconds ago
Gettleman: Picking the wrong QB is a 5-year mistake. Compared the top QBs as having lots of flavors at Ben and Jerrys. He adds that if a QB cant make plays from the pocket you cant win.
Can Eli make plays from the pocket any more?, he certainly can't Escape.
I would argue that missing on any player with a top 3 pick is at least a 3 year mistake--unless you're fortunate enough to be able to cover up their weaknesses the way the Rams seemed to do last year with Greg Robinson. The flip side is, hitting on a QB is often a 10 + year success that allows you to build around him for a decade. And DG said, it's the second pick, you can't miss. Doesn't matter what position it is, a miss is going to set the franchise back a handful of years at least. I would say though that as for QBs, the rookie salary cap makes the miss less devastating than pre-rookie cap days.
Darnold is 1A but probably going first overall.
Barkley is 1B and is probably a made man in NY in a week.
So Im saying I agree.
Beckham, Shepard, Engram, Barkley, Eli....
What the fuck?
Quote:
gettleman
jintz4life : 2:23 pm : link : reply
doesnt seem to realize the game has evolved and he wants to play 3 yards and a cloud of dust on offense
3 yards and a cloud of dust plays into hogmollies and Giants
football.
Quote:
"I don't want guys that like to play football, I want guys that gate to lose".
I think he said something like:
I don't want guys that like to win, I want guys who hate to lose..
Something like that.
Zog is correct
Started the press conference by saying he didn't want guys who like to play football, but guys who hate to lose. When asked about Rosen, he said "he wants to play football."
Barkely is a guy his mother could scout. An incredible talent.
Sounds like they still use "rows" based on draft grades and don't look too far outside that about who may be available later when deciding between multiple prospects.
The college game is so different now that much of the player evaluation is on instincts, effort, and physicality. Harder to rate guys on specific skills when you don't know what they are asked to do, or what they have been taught. Interesting example about an LB not being able to shed blocks "maybe he was never taught that. That's a skill we can teach."
...he's trying to scare Cleveland into a must-take-Saquon Barkley with the first pick to clear the field so he can nab the first QB off the Board.
He can probably saying that honestly because he doesn't know for sure who the Browns are picking at 1
Funny, I don't watch much college FB, but 3 yards and a cloud of dust doesn't seem to describe a. Barkley, b. Shurmer or c. what Shurmer's Giants offense would be with Barkley, OBJ, et. al.