General Manager Dave Gettleman Pre-Draft Press Conference

"Most useless press conference ever"

just to hear it.

Yeah, right.

"Look guys, here is our draft board...1) Sam Darnold; 2) Saquon Barkley; 3) Bradley Chubb; 4) Josh Rosen; 5) Quenton Nelson; 6) Josh Allen. We'd be happy with any of those guys so we are certainly willing to trade down, but no lower than 6th. In the second round we want to address the OL and CB positions, so a trade down will give us some ammo to trade back into the back half of the first to get a guy we like. That's the plan going in. I'm happy to take your questions now."

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�We are taking Saquon Barkley�. Fuck it.

sports talk guy here in Baltimore that always refers to this as the "Liar's Luncheon."

I guess the Ravens have the decency to provide a meal for the media.

will be said, as is proper. Of all the criticisms of Reese, no one could fault him for not being forthcoming during his annual pre-draft press conference. It won't be any different with Gettleman.

...than the draft. I hope he is asked about guys like Flowers and Marshall, not that I'm expecting to hear anything definitive, but perhaps he'll say something that hints at what we can expect.

In comment 13920308 Milton said:

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...than the draft. I hope he is asked about guys like Flowers and Marshall, not that I'm expecting to hear anything definitive, but perhaps he'll say something that hints at what we can expect.

What's there to be said about Flowers? He's under contract and will compete for a job at RT. He didn't show up to the ota because he wasn't required to and they can't do anything about that. There's not much more they can say about the guy.

'nuff said.
Flowers whiffs on 3 defenders - ( New Window )

Release him when it is convenient for the team and not give a rats ass about him finding a job. It is never a good idea to piss off your employer, never. I think he did that job real well between the end of last season and this. Not that I thought the Giants would not do everything to move past this bumb, because they will, he doesn't have his protector anymore.

In comment 13920358 Ten Ton Hammer said:

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What's there to be said about Flowers? He's under contract and will compete for a job at RT. He didn't show up to the ota because he wasn't required to and they can't do anything about that. There's not much more they can say about the guy.

You ask the question and then you see how he answers it. His answer may reveal nothing or it may reveal something. He could be nonchalant and wave it off or he could hint at irritation with Flowers. He might even make a general statement that can be interpreted specifically to a certain player (i.e., everyone has a clean slate, but the slate remains clean for only so long). Same thing with asking about Marshall. He's done a lot of self-scouting of the current roster, I wonder if they can pull something out of him when it comes to some of the youngsters like Jones and Wheeler on the OL, Goodson at LB, Lewis at WR, Perkins and Gallman at RB (i.e., did anyone stand out or surprise him a little). I'm not optimistic about him saying anything all that meaningful, but they certainly aren't going to get anything meaningful out of him in terms of the draft.

In comment 13920432 PaulN said:

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Release him when it is convenient for the team and not give a rats ass about him finding a job. It is never a good idea to piss off your employer, never. I think he did that job real well between the end of last season and this. Not that I thought the Giants would not do everything to move past this bumb, because they will, he doesn't have his protector anymore.

His protection is the $2.4M guaranteed salary he is due. In an ideal scenario the Giants find a trading partner willing to take on that salary and anything the Giants get in return (i.e., 7th round pick) is considered gravy. There are several teams with multiple 7th round picks and plenty of cap room that might see the value in a former first round pick with three years of starting experience at left tackle.

That said, the questions will be softball like in the past, so, the answers will be hitting softballs as well.

Matt Lombardo
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29s30 seconds ago

Gettleman says that he�s watched a lot of film with Pat Shurmur ahead of the #NFLDraft. #Giants implementing a �Different� philosophy, that comes from modern college football.

Matt Lombardo
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16s17 seconds ago

Gettleman: Today�s college players aren�t as fundamentally or technically sound as they used to be due to how the #collegefootball game has changed. #NFLDraft #Giants

New York Giants
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41s41 seconds ago

Gettleman: I don�t care how fast a guy runs in his underwear. I care how fast he is on the field with pads on. #NYGiants #NFLDraft

Dan Duggan
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43s44 seconds ago

Dave Gettleman says he grades players on these critical factors: Instincts, competitiveness, strength, athletic ability, explosiveness and play speed. He doesn't care "how fast a guy is in his underwear."

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Dan Duggan
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2m2 minutes ago

Gettleman said the scouts will be home until Sunday night. Said they'll take a "hahd" look at the board on Monday and Tuesday morning. No decisions will be finalized before the draft.

Matt Lombardo
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3m3 minutes ago

Dave Gettleman: When you miss on a QB, you screw the franchise for five years. It�s a five year mistake. If you ask the right questions, you�ll get the right answer. #Giants #NFLDraft

New York Giants
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3m3 minutes ago

GM Dave Gettleman: "I want guys that hate to lose"

In comment 13920947 Eric from BBI said:

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New York Giants ‏Verified account @Giants 3m3 minutes ago GM Dave Gettleman: "I want guys that hate to lose"

Baker Mayfield hates to lose...

Paul Schwartz
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3m3 minutes ago

Gettleman on the QBs in this draft: �I can�t compare it to the �83 draft.�

"You need a QB who makes EVERYONE around him better"

Not sure how many times I read that in Ernie's book but it was a lot.

Matt Lombardo
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13s13 seconds ago

Gettleman says smokescreens are silly. Hasn�t lied since he was a kid ... #Giants

Paul Schwartz
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52s52 seconds ago

Gettleman on all the rumors about who the Giants will take at No. 2: �I love it.�

DG says "With the second pick, I'm sitting at Ben and Jerry's and I got a lot of flavors to look at.". Strange he used that analogy given that he fired "Ben" and replaced "Jerry"

Jordan Raanan
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15s15 seconds ago

Gettleman: Picking the wrong QB is a �5-year mistake.� Compared the top QBs as having lots of flavors at Ben and Jerry�s. He adds that if a QB can�t make plays from the pocket you can�t win.

Dan Duggan
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27s27 seconds ago

Gettleman says Saquon Barkley "is one of those guys my mother could have scouted." Calls him a tremendous talent.

In comment 13920943 Eric from BBI said:

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Matt Lombardo ‏Verified account @MattLombardoPHL 3m3 minutes ago Dave Gettleman: When you miss on a QB, you screw the franchise for five years. It�s a five year mistake. If you ask the right questions, you�ll get the right answer. #Giants #NFLDraft

"5 year mistake" is going to be the new thing on BBI. Just watch.

But doesn't think they're equal to '83. Which is understandable.

QB sets you back 5 years if you miss.
Have to stay with the value of your board.
Valuing of the RB is a myth, he immediately makes your QB and offensive line better.

He just reiterated that "missing on a QB is a five year mistake". Don't get too big a woody just yet, it also applies to picking the wrong QB.

Ryan Dunleavy
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51s51 seconds ago

Gettleman says devaluing of RBs is a myth. Makes your QB better, your passing game better. #Giants #NFLDraft

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45s45 seconds ago

Gettleman on Eli Manning: He takes great care of himself. He�s very fit. He still has plenty of arm. #NYGiants

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Paul Schwartz
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43s43 seconds ago

Gettleman admits �its a consideration� balancing drafting a player who can make an immediate impact vs. someone (QB) who would not contribute in 2018.

"Gotta look at the shart term and the long term."

Ryan Dunleavy
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49s50 seconds ago

Gettleman said it is "hogwash" that you have to draft a QB at No. 2 #NFLDraft

Such a breath of fresh air.


I am confident in whatever he decides.

Matt Lombardo
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29s29 seconds ago

Dave Gettleman �open to everything� when it comes to trading out of the No. 2 pick. �We�ve had calls.� #Giants #NFL

doesnt seem to realize the game has evolved and he wants to play 3 yards and a cloud of dust on offense

In comment 13920962 Eric from BBI said:

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Dan Duggan ‏Verified account @DDuggan21 27s27 seconds ago Gettleman says Saquon Barkley "is one of those guys my mother could have scouted." Calls him a tremendous talent.

Loved this part. Not really much to scout on Barkely, he�s a tremendous talent....

Matt Lombardo
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6s6 seconds ago

Dave Gettleman: I have no intention of trading future draft picks to move up in this draft. None. #Giants #NFLDraft

Bob Glauber
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2m2 minutes ago

Bob Glauber Retweeted Kimberley A. Martin

Dave Gettleman confirms. Also doesn�t close the door on signing Dez Bryant.

In comment 13920973 Eric from BBI said:

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Ryan Dunleavy ‏Verified account @rydunleavy 51s51 seconds ago Gettleman says devaluing of RBs is a myth. Makes your QB better, your passing game better. #Giants #NFLDraft

Thank you!!

that's the impression you've formed??

What the fuck?

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gettleman jintz4life : 2:23 pm : link : reply doesnt seem to realize the game has evolved and he wants to play 3 yards and a cloud of dust on offense

Matt Lombardo
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43s44 seconds ago

Dave Gettleman says he doesn�t know who the #Giants are taking. Doesn�t know if he�s taking a quarterback. #NFLDraft

Ryan Dunleavy
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20s20 seconds ago

Gettleman on Josh Rosen: "He is bright, insightful. Wants to play football." Shoots down popular narrative on #UCLA QB. #nfldraft

He's awesome. So much better than the smug shit head we used to have.

...he doesn't yet know who he's going to pick if he stays at #2.

In comment 13921045 Eric from BBI said:

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Ryan Dunleavy ‏Verified account @rydunleavy 20s20 seconds ago Gettleman on Josh Rosen: "He is bright, insightful. Wants to play football." Shoots down popular narrative on #UCLA QB. #nfldraft

This is actually interesting, because earlier in the PC, he said specifically "I don't want guys that like to play football, I want guys that gate to lose".

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He's awesome. So much better than the smug shit head we used to have.

Yup, I like listening to him. He enjoys the back and forth with the press

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...he doesn't yet know who he's going to pick if he stays at #2.

How could he? He doesnt know who cleveland is taking...

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...I think DG would be a tough opponent at the poker table.

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"I don't want guys that like to play football, I want guys that gate to lose".

I think he said something like:

I don't want guys that like to win, I want guys who hate to lose..

Something like that.

In comment 13921055 dep026 said:

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In comment 13921051 Torrag said: Quote: ...he doesn't yet know who he's going to pick if he stays at #2. How could he? He doesnt know who cleveland is taking...

Very true.

one thing....he is a likeable guy....much better face of the Giants than his predecessor who seemed to hate every minute talking in public.

Gentleman sounds like a guy you are talking with in a bar.

Reese sound like someone is checking his prostate

I don't think that's what he meant. I believe he reallly doesn't know whi he prefers yet. He's going to take all the time he has knowing what a huge decision this is for the franchise. He'll probably go to bed the night before the draft with a final idea and sleep on it and see how he feels about it in the morning.

he is going to row of 3, most likely at the top of Giants board is going to be a QB/RB/DE (pass rusher). Then need will come into play so they fill highest rated on board with highest value of their given need. Interesting.

I feel DG loves the back and forth with media and has a genuinely relaxed easy going personality to boot, funny guy!

The only outside shot is if Cleveland goes Allen.

most definitely doesn't have a relaxed easy-going personality, but the guy loves to discuss football. Start getting into any other subjects, especially about off the field stuff and he gets testy and can clam up.

Football and food he'll banter with the reporters all day about.

analogy to grades and concomitant discussion about the importance of depth might indicate a greater willingness to trade down than previously thought.

The remark about being able to "boil water" seems like a reference to Apple.

I agree that he seems like a jovial, fun, guy.

Profanities about Reese are wrong.

considering it's a direct interview with the guy that's making the pick one week from today, and probably the most direct insight into what the org is thinking.

In comment 13920989 Eric from BBI said:

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Ryan Dunleavy ‏Verified account @rydunleavy 49s50 seconds ago Gettleman said it is "hogwash" that you have to draft a QB at No. 2 #NFLDraft

Don't tell that to BBI.

In comment 13920960 Eric from BBI said:

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Jordan Raanan �Verified account @JordanRaanan 15s15 seconds ago Gettleman: Picking the wrong QB is a �5-year mistake.� Compared the top QBs as having lots of flavors at Ben and Jerry�s. He adds that if a QB can�t make plays from the pocket you can�t win.

Can Eli make plays from the pocket any more?, he certainly can't Escape.

did he comment on Darnold at all?

In comment 13920972 Beer Man said:

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He just reiterated that "missing on a QB is a five year mistake". Don't get too big a woody just yet, it also applies to picking the wrong QB.

I would argue that missing on any player with a top 3 pick is at least a 3 year mistake--unless you're fortunate enough to be able to cover up their weaknesses the way the Rams seemed to do last year with Greg Robinson. The flip side is, hitting on a QB is often a 10 + year success that allows you to build around him for a decade. And DG said, it's the second pick, you can't miss. Doesn't matter what position it is, a miss is going to set the franchise back a handful of years at least. I would say though that as for QBs, the rookie salary cap makes the miss less devastating than pre-rookie cap days.

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In comment 13921107 Chris684 said:

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The only outside shot is if Cleveland goes Allen.

Darnold is 1A but probably going first overall.
Barkley is 1B and is probably a made man in NY in a week.
So I�m saying I agree.
Beckham, Shepard, Engram, Barkley, Eli....

is a five year mistake, whether QB or not.

In comment 13921034 FatMan in Charlotte said:

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that's the impression you've formed?? What the fuck? Quote: gettleman jintz4life : 2:23 pm : link : reply doesnt seem to realize the game has evolved and he wants to play 3 yards and a cloud of dust on offense

3 yards and a cloud of dust plays into hogmollies and Giants
football.

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In comment 13921319 GiantNatty said:

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is a five year mistake, whether QB or not.

most positions you know what you have pretty soon. On QBs that isn�t the case. One to two years to get on the field, then a couple of years to know if they can really play. That isn�t true of other positions.

In comment 13921070 ZogZerg said:

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Quote: "I don't want guys that like to play football, I want guys that gate to lose". I think he said something like: I don't want guys that like to win, I want guys who hate to lose.. Something like that.

Zog is correct

while really saying not much (which is exactly what he should have done). Some interesting takeaways.

Started the press conference by saying he didn't want guys who like to play football, but guys who hate to lose. When asked about Rosen, he said "he wants to play football."

Barkely is a guy his mother could scout. An incredible talent.

Sounds like they still use "rows" based on draft grades and don't look too far outside that about who may be available later when deciding between multiple prospects.

The college game is so different now that much of the player evaluation is on instincts, effort, and physicality. Harder to rate guys on specific skills when you don't know what they are asked to do, or what they have been taught. Interesting example about an LB not being able to shed blocks "maybe he was never taught that. That's a skill we can teach."

...he's trying to scare Cleveland into a must-take-Saquon Barkley with the first pick to clear the field so he can nab the first QB off the Board.

In comment 13921051 Torrag said:

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...he doesn't yet know who he's going to pick if he stays at #2.

He can probably saying that honestly because he doesn't know for sure who the Browns are picking at 1

In comment 13920997 jintz4life said:

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doesnt seem to realize the game has evolved and he wants to play 3 yards and a cloud of dust on offense

Funny, I don't watch much college FB, but 3 yards and a cloud of dust doesn't seem to describe a. Barkley, b. Shurmer or c. what Shurmer's Giants offense would be with Barkley, OBJ, et. al.