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Gettleman's Age and Its Effect on Draft

Spirit of '86 : 4/19/2018 8:47 am
Gettleman is 67. He does not have an unlimited shelf-life. I think his age must have a bearing on who he picks. Ownership has a huge voice but I imagine it comes down to him. He's got a franchise QB for a few years. Why pick a QB that will not really pay dividends until he's 70? Barkley and an improved OL give them a chance to win now. If he's there, the win-now pick of Barkley will be the one IMO.
Ernie Accorsi  
Jarvis : 4/19/2018 8:51 am : link
retired 3 years after drafting Manning. Never was the GM for one fo the Super Bowls. Yet is remembered as the GM that set up the Giants for all their success (due to the Manning trade). His legacy is cemented so much so that our owner still consults with him on moved like the GM hire.
I don't understand this one at all  
cjac : 4/19/2018 8:51 am : link
How old he is has absolutely nothing to do with who the Giants are going to draft.

Accorsi was 65 when he picked Eli  
twostepgiants : 4/19/2018 8:51 am : link
And started a rebuild with the giants.
Not a factor at all  
Mike from Ohio : 4/19/2018 8:51 am : link
Not even a little bit.
He's going to do what is best for the franchise  
cjac : 4/19/2018 8:52 am : link
and thats it
He’s not playing or coaching  
UConn4523 : 4/19/2018 8:52 am : link
unless you are suggesting his mind will be less sharp at 79, what’s the point?
______________________  
I am Ninja : 4/19/2018 8:52 am : link
When you get older, you start to care about your legacy. How they're going to think about you when you're gone. Accorsi was here for only a small portion of Eli's career, but Eli will always be his. So, to a large extent, he has a claim to that second SB as well.

I just think there's more to it than, "I'll be retired or dead when this guy's in his prime."

On the other hand, maybe you're right. Be interesting.
You’ve got to be kidding  
HomerJones45 : 4/19/2018 8:53 am : link
He’s going to make a pick based on the fact that he’s 67. Oh brother.

If Jawn shuts his yap and let’s the GM do his job, Gettleman will try and do what’s best for the team. Period.
RE: He's going to do what is best for the franchise  
Britt in VA : 4/19/2018 8:57 am : link
In comment 13920014 cjac said:
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and thats it


Seriously, people need to quit making up narratives.

If they draft a QB, it's because they view him as the guy to supplant Eli and lead the team for the next ten years.

If they don't draft a QB and go another direction, it's because they don't feel the QB value was worth the risk and they are looking for a player that can help the team for the next ten years.

It's not out of sentimentality, or age, or any other dumb reason people make up to rationalize them not picking what they want.
Clearly  
Joey in VA : 4/19/2018 8:57 am : link
He's going to pick people to watch Murder She Wrote reruns with.
Accorsi point  
Spirit of '86 : 4/19/2018 9:02 am : link
Accorsi picked Eli when Accorsi was 63 and he was retired before he was Gettleman's age now.
Obviously speculation but if you think it doesn't have any bearing if he is 47 or 67 I think you are wrong.
It explains why his 1st question during draft interviews was  
YorkAveGiant : 4/19/2018 9:03 am : link
Do you like and watch Lawrence Welk??
Why do..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/19/2018 9:05 am : link
I have the theme song to "The Benny Hill Show" running through my head as it being what Gettleman hears as he's thinking about the pick?
RE: Accorsi point  
Britt in VA : 4/19/2018 9:06 am : link
In comment 13920040 Spirit of '86 said:
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Accorsi picked Eli when Accorsi was 63 and he was retired before he was Gettleman's age now.
Obviously speculation but if you think it doesn't have any bearing if he is 47 or 67 I think you are wrong.


Accorsi picked Eli then retired two years later.

So Gettleman won't pick a QB, because he's near retirement?

Good logic.
This came up when he was hired ....  
Beer Man : 4/19/2018 9:09 am : link
He stated then, that he plans to be in the Giants GM role for a long time and will do whats best for the long term success of the team.
How  
mattyblue : 4/19/2018 9:11 am : link
does taking Barkley at 2 suddenly turn us into contenders? We were 3-13 last year and probably the worst team in the NFL. Maybe we turn it around quick but I don’t know how fast can really be expected. They may draft Barkley if they really don’t like the WBs, but if you are implying Gettleman wants to draft a RB to win now because he is old, then I would say he is the worst GM we have ever had.
Plenty of shitty GMs at 47 years old  
UConn4523 : 4/19/2018 9:16 am : link
including the one we just fired (he started GMing a bit earlier than that).
Gettleman was born again 14 years ago.  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/19/2018 9:54 am : link
He should be set through 2060, at least.

Joking aside, there's no reason to believe Gettleman's age is a factor. With the cap, CBA and contracts structured as they are, plus the unpredictable injuries, it's basically impossible for any NFL GM to plan more than about four years out. In practical terms, the time horizon for most GMs is probably more like two or three seasons - even less if their contracts are winding down.
So Gettleman will trade down  
CT Charlie : 4/19/2018 9:58 am : link
for a lifetime supply of Werther's?
I almost wonder if at 67,  
lugnut : 4/19/2018 10:05 am : link
Gettleman, in this probably his last job, just says "Aw fuck it" and really rolls the dice. Taking Allen would not surprise me, especially if Shurmur was hired partially as the Quarterback Whisperer. Mayfield wouldn't surprise me either.
Obviously it could be a factor  
Vanzetti : 4/19/2018 11:04 am : link
DG is not going to be the GM for 15 years so he could be motivated more to try to win with Eli.

But that is where ownership comes in. Mara presumably will do what is best for the longterm interests of the franchise
I am  
PaulN : 4/19/2018 11:06 am : link
Close to 64, and I would love to see a new young QB if he could be a great QB, Gettleman's age has nothing to do with what he does, he has to live with himself and the only way a person can is by doing the best job he can and do what he believes in. Just because he gets older does not mean he changes that, it is called character.
This is the age of conspiracy theories.  
Ira : 4/19/2018 11:07 am : link
No one trusts anyone else. It's all about what someone is really after.
Gettleman  
Marty866b : 4/19/2018 11:10 am : link
If you are a fan of the Giants for a long time you should know that Gettleman will not be making these selections without John Mara looking over his shoulder. What I mean is that he will not be making these selections alone.
I suspect Gettleman would prefer if you get off his lawn  
mfsd : 4/19/2018 11:15 am : link
But I don’t think his age is factoring into the Giants war room discussions.

Oh, and it’s Mr. Gettleman. Respect your elders.
Gettleman's Age and Its Effect on Draft  
Torrag : 4/19/2018 11:20 am : link
None.
The OP  
Jay in Toronto : 4/19/2018 11:21 am : link
is what we call a "reach."
His legacy will be this draft,  
old man : 4/19/2018 1:39 pm : link
even if he's GM for 10 years, which I doubt but am fine with it he does the organization well,which I think he will.
He came in to George Young the organization. They were adrift for 7 years, and ownership was complacent re Reese, Ross , and direction.
He came in to :
Spank JM about complacency, direction of the organization, the team,cap management,player evaluation, and running it like a family business instead of a business first,owned by a family(ies).
After spanking, getting everybody in the organization in the same page was/is the next order of business.
JM wanted to return to Giants football since 2012, and that's what DG will do. JM wants to win now, and in the future; and that's what DG will do,(hogmollies sound familiar?) Evaluation of Eli, sentiment aside, was the first step. Next is evaluation of QBs in the draft. Then the decision on do we/don't we go QB will be made.
If, God forbid, something happened to DG, he's put the Giants back on track on direction.
Age makes no difference.
Ageism  
Mike from SI : 4/19/2018 1:52 pm : link
Fuck yeah! The one "ism" that still is somehow ok in our society. I hope when I get old people have stopped thinking this way.
he's the GM....  
BillKo : 4/19/2018 2:31 pm : link
not some eccentric owner for goodness sake.

DG will draft how it benefits the New York Giants, period.
RE: Clearly  
Greg from LI : 4/19/2018 2:40 pm : link
In comment 13920027 Joey in VA said:
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He's going to pick people to watch Murder She Wrote reruns with.


After the game, 60 Minutes, followed by Murder..........She Wrote
I think..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/19/2018 2:41 pm : link
he even said that in the iconic 1990 Championship game vs. SF!!
RE: I think..  
Victor in CT : 4/19/2018 3:59 pm : link
In comment 13921092 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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he even said that in the iconic 1990 Championship game vs. SF!!


yes he did! but rightly it was overshadowed by "there will be NO three-peat!"
RE: ______________________  
LauderdaleMatty : 4/19/2018 4:16 pm : link
In comment 13920017 I am Ninja said:
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When you get older, you start to care about your legacy. How they're going to think about you when you're gone. Accorsi was here for only a small portion of Eli's career, but Eli will always be his. So, to a large extent, he has a claim to that second SB as well.

I just think there's more to it than, "I'll be retired or dead when this guy's in his prime."

On the other hand, maybe you're right. Be interesting.


Total projection. He may think that way but he certainly my doesn’t seem like that way to me. I would suggest his age maybe some wisdom. I don’t think Reese was stupid by any measure. But boy was he arrogant and unwise in so many areas.

They need a guy who doesn’t suck at the draft. Age is immaterial in that area
Nothing  
Thegratefulhead : 4/19/2018 6:21 pm : link
I was very nervous about the DG choice for GM until I heard him talk about scouting and how Carolina taught him a different way to do things. It is not Carolina's method that put me at ease. It was that an older gentleman was not only open to but was enthusiastic about learning new ways to do things. He is still open to learning. That is unfortunately, very rare.

Good thing the Giants are drafting early  
Bill in UT : 4/19/2018 7:02 pm : link
in the rounds, he won't have to stay up that late.
RE: Good thing the Giants are drafting early  
mfsd : 4/19/2018 7:05 pm : link
In comment 13921623 Bill in UT said:
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in the rounds, he won't have to stay up that late.


Haha, you win!
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