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Walton to the Giants last week

firedbytheboss : 4/19/2018 3:30 pm
Not sure if it was discussed here but I have a buddy who is a huge Canes fan and He loves Walton. He believes he has Kamara upside
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Meh,  
GiantFilthy : 4/19/2018 3:36 pm : link
maybe if he was a guard.
I like him  
Andy in Boston : 4/19/2018 3:52 pm : link
Reminds me of Ahmad Bradshaw when you watch him on tape
RE: I like him  
firedbytheboss : 4/19/2018 4:15 pm : link
In comment 13921336 Andy in Boston said:
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Reminds me of Ahmad Bradshaw when you watch him on tape


he is someone they can get in the 4th and provide a lot of upside. I'd rather have a guy like this late in the draft, maybe two guys, than a #2 on Barkley..
You would rather spend two of our drafts picks,  
GiantFilthy : 4/19/2018 4:29 pm : link
on a team with many holes, on a position that you do not value over picking the top talent in the draft?
Soooooo the fan of the team  
superspynyg : 4/19/2018 4:37 pm : link
likes the best player on the team? How odd.
Yeah...  
Brown Recluse : 4/19/2018 4:40 pm : link
we already have two guys like this (late round *upside* backs) on the roster.

Players like Gallman and Perkins are generally what you get in rounds 4-7. Anything better is considered a stroke of luck.

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arcarsenal : 4/19/2018 4:40 pm : link
Damn, I thought we were getting JD Walton back. He was a fucking gamer.
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Brown Recluse : 4/19/2018 4:41 pm : link
In comment 13921431 arcarsenal said:
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Damn, I thought we were getting JD Walton back. He was a fucking gamer.


That was my first thought as well, haha
One of many RB's the Giants have met with.  
TC : 4/19/2018 4:54 pm : link
A good all around talent who's a little light. NFL.Com sees him as a 4th or 5th round pick, but I would guess later.

Other RB's out there I like better for what they could do for the Giants roster who will go then or later are:

Jordan Chunn - Short yardage specialist.
Philip Lindsay - All around smaller firecracker.
Boston Scott - AKA, Mighty Mouse. Change of pace "air back." Compared to Quiz Rodgers. Eye popping numbers and moves.

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RE: Yeah...  
TC : 4/19/2018 4:56 pm : link
In comment 13921430 Brown Recluse said:
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we already have two guys like this (late round *upside* backs) on the roster.

Players like Gallman and Perkins are generally what you get in rounds 4-7. Anything better is considered a stroke of luck.

Gallman is a very good RB. Nothing wrong with his game that little better blocking won't help.
RE: You would rather spend two of our drafts picks,  
firedbytheboss : 4/19/2018 5:29 pm : link
In comment 13921414 GiantFilthy said:
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on a team with many holes, on a position that you do not value over picking the top talent in the draft?


that would be better than spending the #2 pick on a rb. the #2 pick has the value of 8 such picks.. do the math
He doesn't have Kamara's explosiveness  
Eric on Li : 4/19/2018 5:54 pm : link
if you want a hopeful comp I'd say James White. He does everything well, has good vision, works hard, and plays tougher than his size. He can catch and pass protect. In the 4th round he'd be a really solid addition - he's just not super explosive. Maybe in the most optimistic scenario he could be kind of like Tiki, because he does have the ability to play 3 downs despite his size, but I wouldn't bet on that personally.
Current list of player with whom the Giants are reported to have met.  
TC : 4/19/2018 5:57 pm : link
Patrick Afriyie, DE, Colgate (WOR)
Jordan Aikens, TE, Central Florida (WOR)
Josh Allen^, QB, Wyoming (COM, PRI)
Ryan Anderson, P, Rutgers (LOC)
Michael Badgley, K, Miami (PRI)
Jerome Baker, OLB, Ohio State (PRO)
Saquon Barkley^, RB, Penn State (COM, PRI)
Mike Boone, RB, Cincinnati (PRO)
Devonte Boyd, WR, UNLV (EW)
Jeremiah Briscoe, QB, Sam Houston State (EW)
Jason Cabinda, OLB, Penn State (EW)
Christian Campbell, CB, Penn State (PRI)
Alex Cappa, OT, Humboldt State (COM)
Jermaine Carter, OLB, Maryland (PRO)
Geron Christian, OT, Louisville (PRI)
Bradley Chubb^, DE, N.C. State (WOR, PRI)
Jordan Chunn, RB, Troy (EW)
Regis Cibasu, WR, University of Montreal (EW)
Austin Corbett^, OT/C, Nevada (COM, WOR)
Curtis Cothran, DT, Penn State (PRO)
Anthony Coyle, OT, Fordham (LOC)
Tyrell Crosby^, OT, Oregon (COM, PRI)
Sam Darnold^, QB, USC (COM, PRO, PRI)
Duke Dawson, CB, Florida (SR)
Will Dissly, TE, Washington (PRI)
Steven Dunbar, WR, Houston (EW)
Chase Edmonds^, RB, Fordham (PRO, COM, LOC)
Gus Edwards, RB, Rutgers (LOC)
Brandon Facyson, CB, Virginia Tech (EW)
Minkah Fitzpatrick, S, Alabama (COM)
Poona Ford, DT, Texas (EW)
Mike Gesicki, TE, Penn State (LOC)
Shaquem Griffin, OLB, Central Florida (COM)
Derrius Guice, RB, LSU (PRO)
Heath Harding, CB, Miami (Ohio) (EW)
Desmond Harrison, OT, West Georgia (COM)
Taylor Hearn, G, Clemson (COM)
Quadree Henderson, WR, Pittsburgh (WOR)
Will Hernandez^, G, UTEP (COM, PRI)
Nyheim Hines, RB, N.C. State (COM)
Lamar Jackson, QB, Louisville (COM)
Kerryon Johnson, RB, Auburn (COM)
Trey Johnson, CB, Villanova (PRO)
Justin Jones^, DT, N.C. State (COM, PRO)
Ronald Jones II, RB, USC (COM)
Kameron Kelly, CB, San Diego State (SR)
Keith Kirkwood, WR, Temple (LOC)
Tanner Lee, QB, Nebraska (SR%)
Darius Leonard, OLB/ILB, South Carolina State (PRI)
Phillip Lindsay, RB, Colorado (EW)
Mike Love, DE/3-4OLB, South Florida (PRI)
Baker Mayfield^, QB, Oklahoma (PRI, COM, WOR, PRO)
Kolton Miller, OT, UCLA (COM)
Ryan Nall, FB, Oregon State (COM)
Quenton Nelson, G, Notre Dame (COM)
Cody O'Connell, G, Washington State (EW)
Chukwuma Okorafor, OT, Western Michigan (COM)
Brian O'Neill^, OT, Pittsburgh (COM, WOR)
Thomas Owens, WR, Florida International (PRI)
D.J. Palmore, ILB, Navy (EW)
Brandon Parker, OT, North Carolina A&T (PRI)
Rashaad Penny^, RB, San Diego State (COM, PRI)
Billy Price, G/C, Ohio State (COM)
Jacob Pugh, 3-4OLB/OLB, Florida State (EW)
Kyle Queiro, FS, Northwestern (WOR)
Scott Quessenberry, G/C, UCLA (COM)
Stephen Roberts, S, Auburn (PRO)
Josh Rosen^, QB, UCLA (COM, WOR, PRI)
Mason Rudolph, QB, Oklahoma State (PRO)
Ryan Santoso, K, Minnesota (WOR)
Zach Seiler, DE, Ferris State (PRI)
Greg Senat, OT, Wagner (EW)
Brandon Shed, WR, Hobart (PRO)
Nathan Shepherd, DT, Fort Hays State (PRI)
Roquan Smith^, OLB/ILB, Georgia (COM, PRI)
Ryan Smith, TE, Miami (Ohio) (PRO)
Tre'Quan Smith, WR, Central Florida (PRI)
Kentavius Street^, DE, N.C. State (PRO, PRI, WOR)
Greg Stroman, CB, Virginia Tech (EW)
Josh Sweat, DE/3-4OLB, Florida State (PRI)
Jordan Thomas, CB, Oklahoma (EW)
Matthew Thomas, ILB, Florida State (EW)
Vita Vea, DT/3-4DE/NT, Washington (PRI)
Akrum Wadley^, RB, Iowa (SR%, LOC)
Mark Walton^, RB, Miami (COM, PRI)
Armani Watts, S, Texas A&M (SR)
David Wells, TE, San Diego State (EW)
Connor Williams, OT, Texas (COM)
Ethan Wolf, TE, Tennessee (EW)
Isaiah Wynn, OT/G/C, Georgia (COM)

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RE: RE: Yeah...  
Brown Recluse : 4/19/2018 8:02 pm : link
In comment 13921476 TC said:
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In comment 13921430 Brown Recluse said:


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we already have two guys like this (late round *upside* backs) on the roster.

Players like Gallman and Perkins are generally what you get in rounds 4-7. Anything better is considered a stroke of luck.



Gallman is a very good RB. Nothing wrong with his game that little better blocking won't help.


Gallmam is a “good” RB. Maybe. Perkins looked good as a rookie too. And yet, there is a clear difference between players like Wayne Gallmam and Saquon Barkley, which was the point.
RE: RE: RE: Yeah...  
TC : 4/19/2018 11:48 pm : link
In comment 13921726 Brown Recluse said:
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In comment 13921476 TC said:


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In comment 13921430 Brown Recluse said:


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we already have two guys like this (late round *upside* backs) on the roster.

Players like Gallman and Perkins are generally what you get in rounds 4-7. Anything better is considered a stroke of luck.



Gallman is a very good RB. Nothing wrong with his game that little better blocking won't help.



Gallmam is a “good” RB. Maybe. Perkins looked good as a rookie too. And yet, there is a clear difference between players like Wayne Gallmam and Saquon Barkley, which was the point.

Must all discussions of any RB have something to do with Barkley? I honestly didn't make the connection. Does it all have to be about Barkley, or alternately Rosen, or whoever else the talking heads are babbling about? There are a lot of players in this draft, some of which will not be drafted in the first round, but which are still needed to help build a roster. One of the things this team needs is a money short yardage back. I don't know that one is one the team now, and it sure as hell ain't Barkley based upon what I've seen of his play.

Good RB's come from many different rounds. If the Giants draft Barkley, most indications are that he'll be a superb RB, and they can go on to rebuild their team. If the Giants DON'T draft Barkley, they will get a different excellent player, and other RB's will carry the load and they'll go on to rebuild their team.

There isn't one new player who is going to fix all the problems this team has had and suddenly make it a contender.

Walton has had some injuries including last year. His 40 time was  
Ivan15 : 4/20/2018 8:57 am : link
slow, but maybe he didn’t have opportunity to work when recovering.

Had it not been for last year’s injury, he might have been a round 2-3 prospect, so 4th round might be about right for him now.
Unfortunately..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/20/2018 9:01 am : link
certain posters have specific agendas:

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Must all discussions of any RB have something to do with Barkley? I honestly didn't make the connection.


Almost every comment firedbytheboss makes is directed at not drafting Barkley, whether it is to propose other RB's to pick, to say it is a bad economic decision, or even to say things like Barkley shies away from contact.

It is strange that we have several posters who fixate on only one topic and direct every comment on that topic.
And case..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/20/2018 9:01 am : link
in point - even on this thread, the first reference to Barkley was made by whom??
RE: RE: RE: RE: Yeah...  
Brown Recluse : 4/20/2018 9:01 am : link
In comment 13922054 TC said:
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In comment 13921726 Brown Recluse said:


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In comment 13921476 TC said:


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In comment 13921430 Brown Recluse said:


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we already have two guys like this (late round *upside* backs) on the roster.

Players like Gallman and Perkins are generally what you get in rounds 4-7. Anything better is considered a stroke of luck.



Gallman is a very good RB. Nothing wrong with his game that little better blocking won't help.



Gallmam is a “good” RB. Maybe. Perkins looked good as a rookie too. And yet, there is a clear difference between players like Wayne Gallmam and Saquon Barkley, which was the point.


Must all discussions of any RB have something to do with Barkley? I honestly didn't make the connection. Does it all have to be about Barkley, or alternately Rosen, or whoever else the talking heads are babbling about? There are a lot of players in this draft, some of which will not be drafted in the first round, but which are still needed to help build a roster. One of the things this team needs is a money short yardage back. I don't know that one is one the team now, and it sure as hell ain't Barkley based upon what I've seen of his play.

Good RB's come from many different rounds. If the Giants draft Barkley, most indications are that he'll be a superb RB, and they can go on to rebuild their team. If the Giants DON'T draft Barkley, they will get a different excellent player, and other RB's will carry the load and they'll go on to rebuild their team.

There isn't one new player who is going to fix all the problems this team has had and suddenly make it a contender.


In case you hadn't noticed, "firedbytheboss" brought up Barkley. As he always does. As his part of his agenda. So why dont you ask him?
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