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NO QB at #2

Giantslifer : 4/19/2018 3:38 pm
Any QB who is drafted at #2 needs to be starting by week 8.
The Giants can not afford to draft a player who will not get on field for at least
1-1/2 -2 years.
NONE of these QB's have that ability.
MORRRTAAAL KOMBAAAAAT  
Brown Recluse : 4/19/2018 3:39 pm : link
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No sleep til Brooklyn  
Britt in VA : 4/19/2018 3:39 pm : link
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arcarsenal : 4/19/2018 3:39 pm : link
SYNAPSES FIRING
NO ON 15!  
Britt in VA : 4/19/2018 3:40 pm : link
NO ON 15!

I'm the L-A-M the A and the R, I'm the man on the mic that they call Lamar! - ( New Window )
what  
firedbytheboss : 4/19/2018 3:48 pm : link
are you smoking..

none of these qbs can get on the field in a year and a half?

Rosen, Darnold and Mayfield can all start within a year. Allen maybe a year and a half.

RE: MORRRTAAAL KOMBAAAAAT  
Mike from SI : 4/19/2018 3:49 pm : link
In comment 13921282 Brown Recluse said:
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I actually laughed out loud.
Ugh  
djstat : 4/19/2018 4:08 pm : link
STOPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
None of the other threads really convinced me,  
Mad Mike : 4/19/2018 4:12 pm : link
but this one has me sold. Thanks for posting.
I miss rnargi...  
Brown_Hornet : 4/19/2018 4:20 pm : link
...she was pretty cool~
Hey, look whos back  
Brown Recluse : 4/19/2018 4:26 pm : link
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LOUD NOISES!!!  
Mike from Ohio : 4/19/2018 4:31 pm : link
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Agree and disagree  
Big Blue in MD : 4/19/2018 4:42 pm : link
I think these QBs have the ability o get on the field. However, i don't think these QBs are further along than Davis Webb. people state that we don't know what we have in D Webb because he hasn't played an NFL game. Well, neither have Allen, Darnold, Rosen, Mayfield, etc.

The only evidence is their college tape, combine and face to face meetings. All of which we have seen from Davis Webb. We also have a better perspective of Webb's work ethic over the past twelve months, which seems pretty good. We also have a reference in Eli manning who would certainly be honest about how Webb studies, learns, etc.

For these reasons, IMO, we will not draft a QB, and stick with D Webb as the future behind Eli.
Spoken with clear authority  
Ivan15 : 4/19/2018 4:53 pm : link
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We should draft the QB  
giantstock : 4/19/2018 5:24 pm : link
The OP's comment is absurd.

Hopefully Rosen or Mayfield.

You think the  
Amtoft : 4/19/2018 5:31 pm : link
Saints trade up to take a QB at #2? What would they have to give up... at least a first next year and a lot more.
RE: Agree and disagree  
firedbytheboss : 4/19/2018 5:32 pm : link
In comment 13921439 Big Blue in MD said:
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I think these QBs have the ability o get on the field. However, i don't think these QBs are further along than Davis Webb. people state that we don't know what we have in D Webb because he hasn't played an NFL game. Well, neither have Allen, Darnold, Rosen, Mayfield, etc.

The only evidence is their college tape, combine and face to face meetings. All of which we have seen from Davis Webb. We also have a better perspective of Webb's work ethic over the past twelve months, which seems pretty good. We also have a reference in Eli manning who would certainly be honest about how Webb studies, learns, etc.

For these reasons, IMO, we will not draft a QB, and stick with D Webb as the future behind Eli.


hmmm. let's see ... the top 3 qbs in this draft will likely go 1-2-3.. Davis Webb went late in the 3rd round and couldn't sniff practice time on a 3-13 team.. I think we can safely say 3 or 4 of these guys are ahead of Davis Webb until further notice.
RE: what  
Giantslifer : 4/19/2018 5:37 pm : link
In comment 13921322 firedbytheboss said:
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are you smoking..

none of these qbs can get on the field in a year and a half?

Rosen, Darnold and Mayfield can all start within a year. Allen maybe a year and a half.

None of these QB's , if drafted by Giants will get on field for at least 1-1/2 - 2 years.

This really sucks  
BigBlueShock : 4/19/2018 5:46 pm : link
So far on BBI I’ve learned that:

We can’t draft a QB at 2 because they won’t play immediately

We can’t draft a RB at 2 because RBs are a dime a dozen

We can’t draft Chubb at 2 because he doesn’t fit the system and isn’t elite at any one thing

We can’t draft Nelson at 2 because you don’t draft guards at 2 and this draft is loaded with interior linemen

So basically, unless the Giants trade down and refuse to pick anyone at 2, they will get killed by the intelligent masses. Lovely.
RE: This really sucks  
PatersonPlank : 4/19/2018 5:51 pm : link
In comment 13921535 BigBlueShock said:
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So far on BBI I’ve learned that:

We can’t draft a QB at 2 because they won’t play immediately

We can’t draft a RB at 2 because RBs are a dime a dozen

We can’t draft Chubb at 2 because he doesn’t fit the system and isn’t elite at any one thing

We can’t draft Nelson at 2 because you don’t draft guards at 2 and this draft is loaded with interior linemen

So basically, unless the Giants trade down and refuse to pick anyone at 2, they will get killed by the intelligent masses. Lovely.


Yep, I think you've got it.
RE: This really sucks  
allstarjim : 4/19/2018 6:49 pm : link
In comment 13921535 BigBlueShock said:
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So far on BBI I’ve learned that:

We can’t draft a QB at 2 because they won’t play immediately

We can’t draft a RB at 2 because RBs are a dime a dozen

We can’t draft Chubb at 2 because he doesn’t fit the system and isn’t elite at any one thing

We can’t draft Nelson at 2 because you don’t draft guards at 2 and this draft is loaded with interior linemen

So basically, unless the Giants trade down and refuse to pick anyone at 2, they will get killed by the intelligent masses. Lovely.


WHAT?! Trade DOWN?! But don't you realize we will never be drafting this high again? Drafting down is stupid because now you're not going to get a blue chip player!

- also BBI

I kid...Obviously, 'BBI' refers to a lot of different opinions by a lot of different people only united by their rabid fandom of the NY Giants.
RE: Hey, look whos back  
Brown_Hornet : 4/19/2018 7:48 pm : link
In comment 13921403 Brown Recluse said:
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Good to see most of the old guys haven't changed.
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The long game  
V.I.G. : 4/19/2018 8:33 pm : link
Draft a qb. Have so so expectations for the next couple years. Play for two Super bowls by 2020-2030.
Come  
charlito : 4/19/2018 8:38 pm : link
Along with the snorks
Eli is 37  
bc4life : 4/19/2018 9:00 pm : link
Think he still has some ballin left. But, enough to get an extension? I wouldn't take that bet.
RE: You think the  
JayBinQueens : 4/19/2018 9:37 pm : link
In comment 13921517 Amtoft said:
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Saints trade up to take a QB at #2? What would they have to give up... at least a first next year and a lot more.

Don't we already have the saints first pick
RE: RE: Agree and disagree  
Big Blue in MD : 4/20/2018 10:10 am : link
In comment 13921519 firedbytheboss said:
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In comment 13921439 Big Blue in MD said:


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I think these QBs have the ability o get on the field. However, i don't think these QBs are further along than Davis Webb. people state that we don't know what we have in D Webb because he hasn't played an NFL game. Well, neither have Allen, Darnold, Rosen, Mayfield, etc.

The only evidence is their college tape, combine and face to face meetings. All of which we have seen from Davis Webb. We also have a better perspective of Webb's work ethic over the past twelve months, which seems pretty good. We also have a reference in Eli manning who would certainly be honest about how Webb studies, learns, etc.

For these reasons, IMO, we will not draft a QB, and stick with D Webb as the future behind Eli.



hmmm. let's see ... the top 3 qbs in this draft will likely go 1-2-3.. Davis Webb went late in the 3rd round and couldn't sniff practice time on a 3-13 team.. I think we can safely say 3 or 4 of these guys are ahead of Davis Webb until further notice.


What are you talking about with "couldn't sniff practice time on a 3 - 13 team? He practiced all last year. All I am saying is that this staff will have a much better idea of DWebs skills compared to the others after next week's camp. It's his showcase.
RE: Agree and disagree  
Brown_Hornet : 4/20/2018 10:48 am : link
In comment 13921439 Big Blue in MD said:
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I think these QBs have the ability o get on the field. However, i don't think these QBs are further along than Davis Webb. people state that we don't know what we have in D Webb because he hasn't played an NFL game. Well, neither have Allen, Darnold, Rosen, Mayfield, etc.

The only evidence is their college tape, combine and face to face meetings. All of which we have seen from Davis Webb. We also have a better perspective of Webb's work ethic over the past twelve months, which seems pretty good. We also have a reference in Eli manning who would certainly be honest about how Webb studies, learns, etc.

For these reasons, IMO, we will not draft a QB, and stick with D Webb as the future behind Eli.

I would love for this to be the case. Webb was very good at recognizing single coverage on the edge and threw a ton of "9's."
While he threw some great balls and ofter threw his WRs open, the spread doesn't give us much of a glimpse into how quickly he can survey/break down what's in front of him and deliver against a defense in the NFL.
RE: We should draft the QB  
Giantslifer : 4/20/2018 2:21 pm : link
In comment 13921507 giantstock said:
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The OP's comment is absurd.

Hopefully Rosen or Mayfield.

Why would you draft a QB at #2 who will not play for 2 years?
The height of stupidity.
Too many holes to fill. BTW the Giants will be drafting in top 1/3 of draft next year.
Stockpile players for 2020 - ??
RE: RE: You think the  
Amtoft : 4/20/2018 2:24 pm : link
In comment 13921938 JayBinQueens said:
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Saints trade up to take a QB at #2? What would they have to give up... at least a first next year and a lot more.


Don't we already have the saints first pick


Crap you are right... So like a Saints first rounder every year for life.
I'm sad nobody enjoyed my Revenge of the Nerds II reference.  
Britt in VA : 4/20/2018 2:24 pm : link
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