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Dez is working out with Odell

BigBlue4You09 : 4/19/2018 10:31 pm
On his Instagram, let the rumors swirl..
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I have to admit, I'm intrigued.  
chopperhatch : 4/19/2018 10:33 pm : link
He is definitely a competitor. Very good compliment to Odell.
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arcarsenal : 4/19/2018 10:34 pm : link
Ugh.
I wonder whether we'd trade OBJ for the 6th pick in the draft to  
yatqb : 4/19/2018 10:37 pm : link
land Nelson. He's an amazing talent, but I'm curious about whether Mara is tiring of him and whether in that case DG tries to move in another direction.
I would actually be okay with signing Dez  
NY-Fan : 4/19/2018 10:38 pm : link
If it meant OBJ would sign to stay with the Giants and they where able to feed off of each other. It may also give them a focus and calm them down a bit since each would have someone to connect with. It could also be a total disaster.
I still don’t see it happening  
BigBlue4You09 : 4/19/2018 10:39 pm : link
But I look at it this way...what’s the harm? Is one guy really going to come in here and disrupt the whole culture? One year low risk deal to replace Marshall, make him earn that next paycheck and stick it to Dallas in the meantime
Link?  
Josh in the City : 4/19/2018 10:39 pm : link
I don’t see it
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arcarsenal : 4/19/2018 10:45 pm : link
I think Odell is at a critical point in his career where he's either going to grow up a bit and be more of a professional, or he's just never going to get it. Dez is the type of guy who will help him gravitate towards the latter.

Beckham is doing the right things this offseason. He's stayed out of the spotlight for the most part (nevermind that stupid 3 second clip with the pizza - I don't buy that it was recent) and I think he understands what needs to be done to get a new contract here and stay with this team.

Having Dez Bryant in his ear on a daily basis is really the last thing I want. Dez is not a guy you want around when things aren't going well. He's a loudmouth, he shows up his teammates, he has a history of being a real piece of shit off the field, and he's not a player I want wearing this uniform.

If Dave Gettleman is smart, he'll pass on this player and aim to draft Marshall's replacement somewhere in the 2-4 round range instead.

There's a reason Dallas is letting this guy go. We should all have learned our lesson from what just happened with Brandon Marshall. Dez is declining on the field, and he's a fairly crappy person off it.

Youth, youth, youth. Not another headache.
RE: Link?  
LetsGoGiants : 4/19/2018 10:56 pm : link
In comment 13922011 Josh in the City said:
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I don’t see it


It's on Dez's Instagram
depends on the  
George from PA : 4/19/2018 10:57 pm : link
$$$$$$

he would be a great #2 wr.

a little concern about him and OBJ...but that might be overblown
arc  
Go Terps : 4/19/2018 11:12 pm : link
This guy is going to let you down.
The Marshall lesson has NOTHING to  
GmeninPSL : 4/19/2018 11:13 pm : link
do with Dez Bryant. Marshall is shot at 35, Dez is not at 29.
The Cowboys offense with Prescott as their QB never complimented Bryant. Let's not confuse these two WR's and who would be feeding Bryant the ball. I'd take a chance!
RE: arc  
arcarsenal : 4/19/2018 11:20 pm : link
In comment 13922032 Go Terps said:
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This guy is going to let you down.


Who? Gettleman or Beckham?
RE: arc  
BigBlue4You09 : 4/19/2018 11:25 pm : link
In comment 13922032 Go Terps said:
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This guy is going to let you down.


💤💤💤💤💤💤💤💤💤
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arcarsenal : 4/19/2018 11:28 pm : link
I'm guessing you mean Beckham.

All he has to do to not let me down is....

Continue to be the player he's always been.
Not get into legal trouble.

If he satisfies that criteria, I won't be let down.

Beckham is not Dez Bryant. Dez is a guy you can call an asshole and I will agree with you 100% because he is.

Let him go to Washington and fight Josh Norman on the sidelines when things don't go their way.
If one grown man can prevent another grown man  
est1986 : 4/19/2018 11:45 pm : link
From being a more mature individual, than that individual was never destined to mature. Bring him in. Would be nice to stick it to Dallas.
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arcarsenal : 4/19/2018 11:57 pm : link
Whether you want to believe it or not, men in their mid 20's are still very impressionable and can be influenced.

Dez would be a poor influence.

Forget Odell - take him out of the entire equation. Dez is a declining headache of a football player who was released for a reason.

If we didn't just learn our lesson from what happened with Marshall, we never will.

Get a WR who's best football is ahead of him. Not 4 years behind him.

He wants to stick it to Dallas? Great. There are 14 other games on the schedule that are just as important. Let him bring his jilted ex-lover act into someone else's locker room. We shouldn't want it here.
I agree with your Dez assessment completely  
Go Terps : 4/20/2018 12:10 am : link
Wide receiver is not a need position; certainly not more than nearly every other position on this team. If Shurmur comes as advertised we'll be fine there.
arc  
Go Terps : 4/20/2018 12:11 am : link
Yeah I meant Beckham.
It would be the scariest Offense  
montanagiant : 4/20/2018 12:59 am : link
In the NFL once we shore the O-Line up in the draft
Sorry guys  
Giant John : 4/20/2018 5:59 am : link
But he is done.
Marshall was working out with Eli a couple of weeks back  
ZogZerg : 4/20/2018 6:13 am : link
I'm shocked anyone would want to put Dez and OBJ on the same team. It would be a complete disaster.
WR is not a need position....  
Kevin(formerly Tiki4Six) : 4/20/2018 6:22 am : link
Really ? We have 2!! The rest are all #5 wr’s ....
I don't think Dez affects Beckham.  
FStubbs : 4/20/2018 6:36 am : link
Beckham is 25. He's a grown man, not a rookie. And the theme with him is that for the most part he tries to do the right thing.

We need a WR2 - Shepard is a WR3 and our other receivers are training camp fodder.

The thing is, if Dez wants to be a Giant, he's going to have to take a lot less than he could get on the open market.
RE: I still don’t see it happening  
Eman11 : 4/20/2018 6:54 am : link
In comment 13922010 BigBlue4You09 said:
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But I look at it this way...what’s the harm? Is one guy really going to come in here and disrupt the whole culture? One year low risk deal to replace Marshall, make him earn that next paycheck and stick it to Dallas in the meantime


He'd be a big headache and not worth the trouble IMO. At best he'd be Eli's 3rd - 4th option after OBJ, EE, and SS. No way he'd be happy about not getting the ball enough,and the bitching and moaning would soon follow.
Pass  
Sec 103 : 4/20/2018 7:03 am : link
Strong pass
Hard to believe so many  
Beezer : 4/20/2018 7:15 am : link
on BBI actually want this guy on the Giants.

He assaulted his own mom.

Rudolph. Young FA. Draft in the 3rd or 4th. Several undrafteds.

Hard no on Dez.
Ugh Dez Bryant on this team would be brutal  
Chris684 : 4/20/2018 7:24 am : link
They could sell popcorn and cotton candy on their own sideline with the circus it would be between he and Beckham.

He is just about the last guy I would think to sign if you want the culture within this organization restored.
I don't want Dez either  
Boatie Warrant : 4/20/2018 7:32 am : link
Would love to stick it to Dallas but this guy is too much trouble with declining talent
Can you imagine seeing Dez screaming at Eli on the sideline  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 4/20/2018 8:16 am : link
like he would do in Dallas? Fuck that. Not happening.
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Dodge : 4/20/2018 8:21 am : link
I don't think Dez would scream on the sidelines. OBJ is obviously the star on the team, why would Dez do that?

I want it to happen just to see most of BBI squirm  
UConn4523 : 4/20/2018 8:28 am : link
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If dez takes a 1 year incentive laden deal  
nygiants16 : 4/20/2018 8:32 am : link
I have absolutely zero problem with it, you are hopefully getting a pissed off dez with something to prove going against teams 2nd best corners...

Now if he sucks or becomes a problem you cut him and move on..

Everyone expects the giants to suck anyway so what is the risk? You are not signing him to a 5 year deal
Or, if I can interject an objective moment,  
Big Blue '56 : 4/20/2018 8:33 am : link
his desire to show up Dallas will drive him, his contract would make him extremely cuttable should he prove to be what everyone fears. DG and Mara will decide in either case.

His body of work as it pertains to his behavior is obviously concerning. Also, he has never seemed to have recovered from that foot injury
RE: ...  
QB Snacks : 4/20/2018 8:40 am : link
In comment 13922205 Dodge said:
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I don't think Dez would scream on the sidelines. OBJ is obviously the star on the team, why would Dez do that?


Bc he cant control his emotions.
Hasn't Odell..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/20/2018 8:40 am : link
worked out with Dez the past two years at certain points of the offseason as well?

I thought he was in a group with Landry, Dez, James White and Kenny Stills?
Bryant would drive Eli crazy. He didn’t throw to Marshall but Marshall  
Ivan15 : 4/20/2018 8:48 am : link
Actually ran his routes.

Bryant only has a general idea of what a passing route looks like.
RE: Hasn't Odell..  
nygiants16 : 4/20/2018 8:52 am : link
In comment 13922242 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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worked out with Dez the past two years at certain points of the offseason as well?

I thought he was in a group with Landry, Dez, James White and Kenny Stills?


I thi k it is more of the timing of the video than anything else
Oh believe me...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/20/2018 8:54 am : link
I really don't want Dez anywhere near this team, but I think this might be overblown. The two have worked out in the past and from what I can piece together are friends.

I'm sure lobbying in social media is more for appearances sake anyway. Like Landry saying the Browns were trading for Odell.
RE: I wonder whether we'd trade OBJ for the 6th pick in the draft to  
ron mexico : 4/20/2018 8:55 am : link
In comment 13922007 yatqb said:
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land Nelson. He's an amazing talent, but I'm curious about whether Mara is tiring of him and whether in that case DG tries to move in another direction.


for working out with another player?
Hard pass on Bryant...  
the mike : 4/20/2018 9:12 am : link
Base set will be Beckham-Shepard-Ellison-Engram. Lewis and Latimer will be primary backups with Rudolph/Powe et al competing for final spots. If they can get a serviceable WR in rounds four or five, great. Free agents look completely uninspiring - none of them are worth more than a veteran minimum contract...

And is it necessary for Odell to insert himself into this story? Every week it is another cry out for attention from this guy... bizarre.
RE: Hard pass on Bryant...  
nygiants16 : 4/20/2018 9:18 am : link
In comment 13922288 the mike said:
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Base set will be Beckham-Shepard-Ellison-Engram. Lewis and Latimer will be primary backups with Rudolph/Powe et al competing for final spots. If they can get a serviceable WR in rounds four or five, great. Free agents look completely uninspiring - none of them are worth more than a veteran minimum contract...

And is it necessary for Odell to insert himself into this story? Every week it is another cry out for attention from this guy... bizarre.


Wtf did Beckham do?
the numbers dont add up with Dez...  
Capt. Don : 4/20/2018 9:27 am : link
especially if we take Barkley.

Between Barkley, Odell, Engram and Shepard, how many targets are left over for a former #1 who struggles to get separation?
RE: RE: Hard pass on Bryant...  
the mike : 4/20/2018 9:30 am : link
In comment 13922301 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 13922288 the mike said:


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Base set will be Beckham-Shepard-Ellison-Engram. Lewis and Latimer will be primary backups with Rudolph/Powe et al competing for final spots. If they can get a serviceable WR in rounds four or five, great. Free agents look completely uninspiring - none of them are worth more than a veteran minimum contract...

And is it necessary for Odell to insert himself into this story? Every week it is another cry out for attention from this guy... bizarre.



Wtf did Beckham do?


Here is what he should have done:

Dez
"Hey Odell, I'm going to be in LA and it would be great to work out this week with you - what do you say?"

Odell
"Hey Dez - would love to but the next couple of weeks are not good as I am working out with teammates and the optics would not be cool... Let's do it next time you're in town."
They are just working out together.  
Keith : 4/20/2018 9:34 am : link
The chances of this happening is still slim to none, IMO. It would be a terrible decision and it just doesn't seem like something we will do.
Huh?  
nygiants16 : 4/20/2018 9:34 am : link
Players workout with other players from different teams all the time, is it really bad optics to workout with dez?

That literally makes zero sense
Not going to happen  
Harvest Blend : 4/20/2018 9:39 am : link
goes against everything Gettleman has said since day one.
Oooo look, an optics post  
UConn4523 : 4/20/2018 9:40 am : link
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Is mini-camp..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/20/2018 9:40 am : link
extended??

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Odell
"Hey Dez - would love to but the next couple of weeks are not good as I am working out with teammates and the optics would not be cool... Let's do it next time you're in town."
RE: RE: RE: Hard pass on Bryant...  
ron mexico : 4/20/2018 9:42 am : link
In comment 13922336 the mike said:
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In comment 13922301 nygiants16 said:


Quote:


In comment 13922288 the mike said:


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Base set will be Beckham-Shepard-Ellison-Engram. Lewis and Latimer will be primary backups with Rudolph/Powe et al competing for final spots. If they can get a serviceable WR in rounds four or five, great. Free agents look completely uninspiring - none of them are worth more than a veteran minimum contract...

And is it necessary for Odell to insert himself into this story? Every week it is another cry out for attention from this guy... bizarre.



Wtf did Beckham do?



Here is what he should have done:

Dez
"Hey Odell, I'm going to be in LA and it would be great to work out this week with you - what do you say?"

Odell
"Hey Dez - would love to but the next couple of weeks are not good as I am working out with teammates and the optics would not be cool... Let's do it next time you're in town."


this is satire, right?
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arcarsenal : 4/20/2018 9:45 am : link
Oh jeez, the optics...

I don't care that they're working out together if that's what they want to do. I just don't want the Giants signing this dude.

I think Gettleman is smart enough not to. But we'll see
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