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NFT: Happy 4/20

trueblueinpw : 4/20/2018 7:07 am
Not my thing, but I know about half or more of the people in my office today will be celebrating. I’m sure the city will be a little foggy. For those who partake, enjoy!
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Criminal Podcast has a fun episode on 420  
UConn4523 : 4/20/2018 10:03 am : link
talks about its origin from the guys who started it in their group of friends decades ago in california. Link below but I believe it’s episode #64.
Criminal Podcast - ( New Window )
All kinds of people smoke weed, not just deadbeat losers.  
732NYG : 4/20/2018 10:09 am : link
I love hearing shit from baby boomers who regularly abuse alcohol and pills, talk about fucking losers.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/20/2018 10:13 am : link
Liked it more in my youth, but I haven't done it in years. I'm a straight craft beer guy now.
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Brown Recluse : 4/20/2018 10:17 am : link
RE: Criminal Podcast has a fun episode on 420  
Brown Recluse : 4/20/2018 10:18 am : link
In comment 13922409 UConn4523 said:
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talks about its origin from the guys who started it in their group of friends decades ago in california. Link below but I believe it’s episode #64. Criminal Podcast - ( New Window )


Why am I not surprised it started on California.
A happy 420  
mgreenie03 : 4/20/2018 10:19 am : link
to all my brothers and sisters who enjoy the tree of life.
RE: I like my weed, but..  
mfsd : 4/20/2018 10:20 am : link
In comment 13922189 Diversify yo bonds said:
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Stoner culture is the worst. 4/20 just amplifies it. Hint, when morning news shows are wishing people happy 420 you know it has jumped the shark.


Pretty much agree. For all those who partake, enjoy, today and every day you see fit. And I’m glad we’re veering away from committing police resources to hunting guys selling dime bags, etc.

But I’ve also spent time in Denver since they legalized it - downtown has turned into a haze of stoned zombies who haven’t showered in weeks or cut their hair in years wandering the streets all day begging for change. Some even get offended when you decline to help pay for their next joint.

I’ve never been a “get a fucking job” type guy, I have a don’t judge unless you’ve walked a mile in someone’s shoes view...but I came closer there than ever before.

Happy 4/20!!

I love 4/20  
lightemup : 4/20/2018 10:22 am : link
it shows me how big of a loser someone is wishing somebody a happy 4/20.
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arcarsenal : 4/20/2018 11:02 am : link
I partake - it helps me sleep and helps me relax.

I don't own weed apparel or waltz around telling everyone how stoned I get, mannnnnn.

But I'm glad that the overall perception of marijuana is changing and evolving. As recently as my own childhood, it was viewed as this evil gateway drug and lumped together with much more dangerous, much more addictive drugs.

The medicinal properties are fantastic and there are some great benefits if you know how to be a responsible adult about it.
That's fine  
Bill L : 4/20/2018 11:12 am : link
Next, I wish they would lighten up about the trans-fats. I love those things.
RE: Criminal Podcast has a fun episode on 420  
Milton : 4/20/2018 11:15 am : link
In comment 13922409 UConn4523 said:
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talks about its origin from the guys who started it in their group of friends decades ago in california. Link below but I believe it’s episode #64. Criminal Podcast - ( New Window )
I'm convinced this story is bullshit. I have my own theory on where the term 420 originated and it's the reason you won't hear me saying it.
RE: RE: Criminal Podcast has a fun episode on 420  
arcarsenal : 4/20/2018 11:37 am : link
In comment 13922546 Milton said:
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talks about its origin from the guys who started it in their group of friends decades ago in california. Link below but I believe it’s episode #64. Criminal Podcast - ( New Window )

I'm convinced this story is bullshit. I have my own theory on where the term 420 originated and it's the reason you won't hear me saying it.


Josh Rosen made it up, didn't he? I knew it!
Sounds intriguing but if you can’t post it  
UConn4523 : 4/20/2018 11:39 am : link
than I’m not sure what to say.
Happy 420 BBI  
DennyInDenville : 4/20/2018 11:42 am : link
The real meaning around 420 is 4:20 pm smoking culture that evolved and took off and eventually took over 4/20. True story .

Weed is extremely Embedded in our culture, haters will not understand until they see dee way.
RE: Sounds intriguing but if you can’t post it  
Milton : 4/20/2018 11:43 am : link
In comment 13922584 UConn4523 said:
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than I’m not sure what to say.
I think it originated with skinheads and is reference to Hitler's birthday.
RE: Happy 420 BBI  
Milton : 4/20/2018 11:43 am : link
In comment 13922586 DennyInDenville said:
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The real meaning around 420 is 4:20 pm smoking culture that evolved and took off and eventually took over 4/20. True story.
I don't believe it's true.
RE: RE: Happy 420 BBI  
DennyInDenville : 4/20/2018 11:46 am : link
In comment 13922591 Milton said:
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The real meaning around 420 is 4:20 pm smoking culture that evolved and took off and eventually took over 4/20. True story.

I don't believe it's true.

From what I was taught, it was high school kids getting out of school , getting their friends houses and smoking up usually at 4:20 pm. It. Became a thing and took off.

I got that info from Joseph Foreman himself.
I’ve read about the Htiler stuff  
UConn4523 : 4/20/2018 11:47 am : link
sounds for like urband legend but I guess it’s possible. Certainly something I don’t really care about though.

All that said, I’ll be dabbling tonight.
RE: RE: RE: Happy 420 BBI  
Milton : 4/20/2018 11:56 am : link
In comment 13922599 DennyInDenville said:
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From what I was taught, it was high school kids getting out of school , getting their friends houses and smoking up usually at 4:20 pm. It. Became a thing and took off.

I got that info from Joseph Foreman himself.
That's what everyone's been told (the so-called Waldos from San Raphael High School in the early 70's) but it doesn't ring true to me. Of course it certainly makes for a better story than telling everyone in originated with skinheads who grow and sell weed.
p.s.-- And if you check out the scene in Pulp Fiction with the white supremacists, you'll notice that all the clocks in that shop are set to 4:20.
RE: RE: Sounds intriguing but if you can’t post it  
Bill L : 4/20/2018 11:56 am : link
In comment 13922589 Milton said:
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than I’m not sure what to say.

I think it originated with skinheads and is reference to Hitler's birthday.
What would be the relationship between Hitler and pot?
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mfsd : 4/20/2018 11:58 am : link
In comment 13922616 Bill L said:
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than I’m not sure what to say.

I think it originated with skinheads and is reference to Hitler's birthday.

What would be the relationship between Hitler and pot?


Not sure. He was hooked on many other drugs, maybe if he just smoked pot...
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ron mexico : 4/20/2018 11:58 am : link
In comment 13922589 Milton said:
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than I’m not sure what to say.

I think it originated with skinheads and is reference to Hitler's birthday.


its possible it could have 2, unrelated meanings
Just meant the nazi  
UConn4523 : 4/20/2018 12:05 pm : link
reference.
RE: Happy 420 BBI  
Greg from LI : 4/20/2018 12:07 pm : link
In comment 13922586 DennyInDenville said:
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The real meaning around 420 is 4:20 pm smoking culture that evolved and took off and eventually took over 4/20. True story .

Weed is extremely Embedded in our culture, haters will not understand until they see dee way.


Exhibit A for stupid, annoying stoner culture.
RE: RE: RE: Sounds intriguing but if you can’t post it  
Milton : 4/20/2018 12:15 pm : link
In comment 13922616 Bill L said:
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What would be the relationship between Hitler and pot?
The skinheads. It's not like I've researched it, but from tidbits I've come across here and there, growing and selling weed is a source of income among them. There's even a famous breeder who was outed by Mark Emery as a skinhead after he switched to another seed distributor.

And the story of a bunch of High School kids in 1971 who used it as their code to get together at 4:20pm to smoke weed, well, it just doesn't make sense to me that something like that would lay dormant for 30+ years before ultimately becoming a country-wide popular expression (I've been smoking weed since 1973 and I first heard it called 420 in the mid-90's).
I fail to see how skinheads selling weed  
pjcas18 : 4/20/2018 12:27 pm : link
can spread the term faster than a group of teens searching for weed with a treasure map.

but this article based on a huffpo article explains how the waldos expanded from their local term to global.

I believe the grateful dead and high times could help spread the term, a lot more than skinheads who adopt 420 because it's Hitler's birthday and somehow because they sell weed they say 420 to the buyers? still unclear how hitler, skinheads and weed connect to have weed consumers adopt the day.

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Obviously, it takes more than a few high school stoners to turn “420” into an international phenomenon. According to the Huffington Post’s reporting (which you really should read in full), the Waldos’ had friends and family members who used to hang out with the Grateful Dead. Eventually, members of the Dead and their entourage started saying “420” to refer to weed. As the band played hundreds of concerts a year all over the world in the 70s and 80s, the term spread.

In 1990, a Deadhead handed a flyer to High Times reporter Steven Bloom that repeatedly used the term “420.” Soon, the magazine began using the phrase, too. High Times is probably responsible — at least in part — for pulling the term from Grateful Dead subculture and making it mainstream.
yeah, I'm not seeing how it would make the jump from skinheads  
Greg from LI : 4/20/2018 12:38 pm : link
To general usage.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Sounds intriguing but if you can’t post it  
Greg from LI : 4/20/2018 12:41 pm : link
In comment 13922665 Milton said:
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And the story of a bunch of High School kids in 1971 who used it as their code to get together at 4:20pm to smoke weed, well, it just doesn't make sense to me that something like that would lay dormant for 30+ years before ultimately becoming a country-wide popular expression (I've been smoking weed since 1973 and I first heard it called 420 in the mid-90's).


Think about it this way - before the internet, how easy would it be for such a thing to spread nationwide? Not particularly easily, I'd say. I first heard it in the mid-late '90s, like you. What happened in the mid-90s? The birth of the world wide web, allowing something like that to rapidly spread. Honestly, that sounds a lot more likely than ordinary stoners picking up a catchphrase designed to glorify Hitler from racist skinheads.
RE: yeah, I'm not seeing how it would make the jump from skinheads  
Milton : 4/20/2018 12:51 pm : link
In comment 13922721 Greg from LI said:
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To general usage.
The skinheads, unfortunately, are a very large subculture. It's not uncommon for terms that originate and become popular within a subculture to eventually blend into the mainstream. I would imagine that's how most slang terms evolve.
RE: Ugh  
djm : 4/20/2018 12:51 pm : link
In comment 13922149 ThatLimerickGuy said:
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What a loser day.


You really are awesome. Even if its an act just reading your holier than thou posts... I have little doubt you’re just a treasure.
It's possible I'm wrong  
Milton : 4/20/2018 12:53 pm : link
But I have enough doubt that I avoid the usage.
Snopes has  
Pete in MD : 4/20/2018 12:57 pm : link
a page on the etymology of 420. I always thought it came from the penal code but that is apparently false.
Link - ( New Window )
Trying to  
Pete in MD : 4/20/2018 1:04 pm : link
lump pot-smokers and neo-Nazis together is pretty laughable. Is it because they are two things people think are bad? One is an illegal drug and obviously most people don't like Nazis but this sounds like a ridiculous conspiracy theory.
RE: Snopes has  
Milton : 4/20/2018 1:10 pm : link
In comment 13922762 Pete in MD said:
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a page on the etymology of 420. I always thought it came from the penal code but that is apparently false. Link - ( New Window )
I know the whole story and I've known it since before there was a Snopes. But just because Snopes says it's true doesn't make it true (unless you consider High Times a credible source).
RE: It's possible I'm wrong  
ron mexico : 4/20/2018 1:27 pm : link
In comment 13922757 Milton said:
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But I have enough doubt that I avoid the usage.


how often do you find your self needing a code word for pot?
What does Cheech say?  
Matt M. : 4/20/2018 1:32 pm : link
Or hong, for that matter.
RE: Trying to  
Milton : 4/20/2018 1:35 pm : link
In comment 13922786 Pete in MD said:
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lump pot-smokers and neo-Nazis together is pretty laughable.
I'm not trying to do anything, but when I was doing research on the wide variety of marijuana strains and the breeders behind them I was surprised to find references to skinheads popping up as frequently as I did. And a few years ago I read a story about how growing and selling weed was a popular source of income within the skinhead community. So it's a theory of mine, I'm not saying I'm convinced it's the case, but I'm certainly not convinced by that story of the Waldos.
Here are two hilarious scenes from Trailer Park Boys...  
Milton : 4/20/2018 1:40 pm : link
Ricky Sells Dope at School
Former teacher catches them smoking weed

No, this isn't related to my theory, but it reminded me of it.
I think all of my high school friends  
Route 9 : 4/20/2018 1:53 pm : link
Graduated to something better lol
RE: I think all of my high school friends  
Route 9 : 4/20/2018 2:24 pm : link
In comment 13922868 Route 9 said:
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Graduated to something better lol


As well as Avicii
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ThatLimerickGuy : 4/20/2018 4:10 pm : link
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What a loser day.



You really are awesome. Even if its an act just reading your holier than thou posts... I have little doubt you’re just a treasure.


Thanks?
Wow i’m out of the loop  
ray in arlington : 4/20/2018 5:54 pm : link
Never heard of this.

But I haven’t seen pot in over 30 years, except at a few concerts.
So what’s everyone getting into tonight?  
UConn4523 : 4/20/2018 5:57 pm : link
I’ve got a nice CT strain called 7 Ghosts. The wife and I will be sampling some later tonight.
RE: Wow i’m out of the loop  
Route 9 : 4/20/2018 6:08 pm : link
In comment 13923167 ray in arlington said:
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Never heard of this.

But I haven’t seen pot in over 30 years, except at a few concerts.


Some people just never grow out of it...
Meh  
UConn4523 : 4/20/2018 6:10 pm : link
I grew into it. Didn’t even try it until I was 27. Nothing wrong with it, better than being a degenerate drunk.
Don't drink either  
Route 9 : 4/20/2018 6:13 pm : link
...

But it was a sweet giggle. Do whatever you need to get through life.
RE: So what’s everyone getting into tonight?  
Milton : 4/20/2018 6:35 pm : link
In comment 13923172 UConn4523 said:
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I’ve got a nice CT strain called 7 Ghosts. The wife and I will be sampling some later tonight.
I'll be enjoying a little something I call the Jacky Jack (after the Jack Warner character in Boogie Nights). It's my own cross of a Jack Herer with a Jack Herer.
Ugh  
ThatLimerickGuy : 4/20/2018 8:40 pm : link
Imagine being an adult and running home to smoke weed with your wife.

That's some Hefty Force Flex level trash bag stuff right there.

What do you do on the weekend? Chew Tobacco at the Tatoo Parlor?
Fuck off loser  
UConn4523 : 4/20/2018 8:51 pm : link
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bradshaw44 : 4/20/2018 8:51 pm : link
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That is AWESOME. Hahaha
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