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Browns radio/TV host Dustin Fox says Browns down to

Big Rick in FL : 4/20/2018 12:56 pm
Josh Allen & Baker Mayfield at 1. No clue how plugged in he is, but he does work for the Browns so maybe he knows what he is talking about? All I know is I'd be very happy if Darnold fell into our lap.

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@DustinFox37: Latest Ive heard its between Allen and Mayfield for the #Browns. Who would you rather have?
Dustin Fox  
Joey in VA : 4/20/2018 12:57 pm : link
Is wrong.
Dustin Diamond is probably better connected  
Brown Recluse : 4/20/2018 12:59 pm : link
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/20/2018 12:59 pm : link
I just can't wait for this thing to be over.
RE: Dustin Fox  
Big Rick in FL : 4/20/2018 12:59 pm : link
In comment 13922764 Joey in VA said:
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Is wrong.


Didn't Hue Jackson say they were taking a QB first overall?

Ben Allbright also said they are 100% not taking Barkley at 1. So maybe he isn't wrong?
Don't believe  
Jon T : 4/20/2018 1:00 pm : link
it; Allen, Darnold, or Barkley will be the pick. Mayfield isn't a Dorsey type.
Well he is right...  
Amtoft : 4/20/2018 1:01 pm : link
It is going to be Allen so he is right.
RE: Don't believe  
Brown Recluse : 4/20/2018 1:01 pm : link
In comment 13922773 Jon T said:
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it; Allen, Darnold, or Barkley will be the pick. Mayfield isn't a Dorsey type.


Wow. Haven't seen that handle in a while.
Bob Papa works for the Giants  
superspynyg : 4/20/2018 1:01 pm : link
Do you think he knows what the Giants are doing with pick 2?
Good Grief...  
AD-Blaze : 4/20/2018 1:02 pm : link
Next Thursday cannot get here fast enough.
I think this is the first  
Rocky369 : 4/20/2018 1:02 pm : link
I've seen of Mayfield being this high. Browns pushing smoke toward #4 pick?
Browns are baiting the Jets  
fanofthejets : 4/20/2018 1:05 pm : link
They know we want Mayfield and they want to scare us into trading up to 1 to lock him in.

RE: Browns are baiting the Jets  
Danny80 : 4/20/2018 1:14 pm : link
In comment 13922788 fanofthejets said:
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They know we want Mayfield and they want to scare us into trading up to 1 to lock him in.


I think the Browns go Josh Allen #1 too. They already have Tyrod Taylor who is a pretty good QB. I have a feeling they see Darnold as someone who is Taylor-like with a bit more upside, but not a ton more upside. Allen has a lot more potential upside. I feel like signing Taylor, who isn't that old, gives them the comfort to go for the guy who they see as having more upside potential in time and who fits Dorsey's prototype.
It would be so CLE-like to take Allen 1st overall. Water there must  
Victor in CT : 4/20/2018 1:16 pm : link
have already infected Dorsey's mind.

Jet fans should keep there shit on Jets sites. Just sayin'.
Not Crazy  
MojoEd : 4/20/2018 1:17 pm : link
CLE consultant McCloughan was reported earlier as pushing Mayfield. Based on Dorsey presser on QB traits, Allen wins on arm strength and hand size; Mayfield wins for accuracy and winning. From combine measurements, Mayfield had the second strongest arm; Allens inaccuracy is well discussed.
Dustin Hoffman disagrees  
jeff57 : 4/20/2018 1:19 pm : link
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there is no way its those 2 guys  
Dankbeerman : 4/20/2018 1:20 pm : link
they are polar opposites no way would you scout both of them the same. I could see how different teams could like one or the other but the same team grading those 2 that close would never happen.
Allen as a #1 pick  
Matt M. : 4/20/2018 1:20 pm : link
is insane.
RE: RE: Dustin Fox  
Joey in VA : 4/20/2018 1:28 pm : link
In comment 13922772 Big Rick in FL said:
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In comment 13922764 Joey in VA said:


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Is wrong.



Didn't Hue Jackson say they were taking a QB first overall?

Ben Allbright also said they are 100% not taking Barkley at 1. So maybe he isn't wrong?
Hue Jackson is a dolt. That said, I have very little doubt they go Barkley first, I don't actually care who says what anymore, no one is telling the truth. The truth is he is by far the highest rated player on the board and two picks later the Browns can have one of their top 3 choices at QB, possibly two if we don't take one. None of the QBs are sure fire hits, all have warts so you let the NY teams get their guys and you get Rosen, Darnold or Allen at 4. My hunch says Allen because they know we won't touch him and neither will the Jets. The Jets will take Darnold or Rosen.
Sounds like someone reading into the GMs comments  
UberAlias : 4/20/2018 1:29 pm : link
and trying to cover the bases: he said we want a guy who is accurate and a winner -we want Mayfield; he said we want a strong arm -we want Josh Allen.

Who knows, maybe someone here does have legit intel, but it seems people are mostly throwing out wild speculation.
RE: RE: Browns are baiting the Jets  
fanofthejets : 4/20/2018 1:34 pm : link
In comment 13922804 Danny80 said:
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In comment 13922788 fanofthejets said:


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They know we want Mayfield and they want to scare us into trading up to 1 to lock him in.




I think the Browns go Josh Allen #1 too. They already have Tyrod Taylor who is a pretty good QB. I have a feeling they see Darnold as someone who is Taylor-like with a bit more upside, but not a ton more upside. Allen has a lot more potential upside. I feel like signing Taylor, who isn't that old, gives them the comfort to go for the guy who they see as having more upside potential in time and who fits Dorsey's prototype.


Allen is project that may need as many as 2 years to be ready to start. The Browns can do this with Taylor there as he's a competent starter. Mayfield would also probably have to sit a year in Cleveland. We have a 39 year old McCown and Bridgewater whose knee still ain't right. I'm not convince Bridgewater even plays with us this year. He may get cut. Mayfield would be starting by week 4-5 as a Jet and that's what he wants
RE: Allen as a #1 pick  
jeff57 : 4/20/2018 1:34 pm : link
In comment 13922816 Matt M. said:
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is insane.


Mayfield is even more so.
RE: Don't believe  
MetsAreBack : 4/20/2018 1:36 pm : link
In comment 13922773 Jon T said:
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it; Allen, Darnold, or Barkley will be the pick. Mayfield isn't a Dorsey type.


Thanks, I was just reading this in your newsletter the other day. All these year's later, still a must read.
RE: RE: Allen as a #1 pick  
Matt M. : 4/20/2018 1:38 pm : link
In comment 13922840 jeff57 said:
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In comment 13922816 Matt M. said:


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is insane.



Mayfield is even more so.
I don't completely agree. I don't think Mayfield is a #1 pick either, but not insane. Allen, in my opinion, is the worst of the top 5 by a wide margin.
Don't Believe ANYTHING You Read  
Giants34 : 4/20/2018 1:47 pm : link
It's smarter that way. Ballard - the Colts' GM - was on the NFL Network this morning saying that Dorsey plays things close to the vest. If Fox is leaking this info, it's because Dorsey is attempting to get the Jets to move to 1 to get Mayfield, who they reportedly like.

Simply put, I don't believe anything I read. I believe the Giants are leaking Barkley stuff to get the Browns to take him at 1 so they have their pick of the QBs at 2. The Browns are leaking garbage to try to get more picks to move down and still get their guy at 2 or 3. As the Cards' GM said, it's lying season, so there is no reason to believe anything you read.
RE: Don't believe  
Larry in Pencilvania : 4/20/2018 1:52 pm : link
In comment 13922773 Jon T said:
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it; Allen, Darnold, or Barkley will be the pick. Mayfield isn't a Dorsey type.


Hands too small???
RE: Dustin Diamond is probably better connected  
Danny Kanell : 4/20/2018 2:10 pm : link
In comment 13922769 Brown Recluse said:
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Lol
I don't get the logic of some who say things like  
ZogZerg : 4/20/2018 2:11 pm : link
"Browns know Jets want Mayfield, so they are trying to trick them to trade up..."

If the Browns want Mayfield they are NOT trading the pick.

ALso, Joey, start looking at hair brushes....
The way I saw this originally mentioned  
shyster : 4/20/2018 2:13 pm : link
is that Fox said the Browns' coaches wanted Allen or Mayfield.

That itself might be BS but at least has some shred of plausibility.

Anyone claiming to know what Dorsey thinks is FOS, and I'd say that goes for the "asshat trade" thread as well.

This other item on Fox's twitter supports the notion that he is only actually referencing the coaches' (alleged) opinions:


"Dustin Fox
‏Verified account @DustinFox37

I think Darnold makes the most sense. But I know the coaches arent high on him for whatever reason."

Per cleveland.com, Dorsey will break from his isolation to meet with the offensive staff (including Hue J) this afternoon. But I still suspect that will mostly be a one-way where he will hear what they have to say and not tip his own hand.


DF twit - ( New Window )
RE: The way I saw this originally mentioned  
Big Rick in FL : 4/20/2018 2:20 pm : link
In comment 13922905 shyster said:
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is that Fox said the Browns' coaches wanted Allen or Mayfield.

That itself might be BS but at least has some shred of plausibility.

Anyone claiming to know what Dorsey thinks is FOS, and I'd say that goes for the "asshat trade" thread as well.

This other item on Fox's twitter supports the notion that he is only actually referencing the coaches' (alleged) opinions:


"Dustin Fox
‏Verified account @DustinFox37

I think Darnold makes the most sense. But I know the coaches arent high on him for whatever reason."

Per cleveland.com, Dorsey will break from his isolation to meet with the offensive staff (including Hue J) this afternoon. But I still suspect that will mostly be a one-way where he will hear what they have to say and not tip his own hand.
DF twit - ( New Window )


Obviously nobody knows for sure, but there are a lot of people who do have inside sources that keep bringing up Allen to the Browns. The Browns have the 1st pick so their is really no reason for them to create smokescreens.
RE: Bob Papa works for the Giants  
ThatLimerickGuy : 4/20/2018 2:25 pm : link
In comment 13922780 superspynyg said:
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Do you think he knows what the Giants are doing with pick 2?


This time of the year Bob Papa is killing it on Champions Tour Golf. Ask him about the short game of Colin Montgomerie or Bernhard Langer and you got yourself a tuned in pro.
Dorsey going dark without leaks until draft....  
GFAN52 : 4/20/2018 2:35 pm : link
I'm confident Darnold is still their top choice.
RE: RE: Browns are baiting the Jets  
clatterbuck : 4/20/2018 2:45 pm : link
In comment 13922804 Danny80 said:
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In comment 13922788 fanofthejets said:


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They know we want Mayfield and they want to scare us into trading up to 1 to lock him in.




I think the Browns go Josh Allen #1 too. They already have Tyrod Taylor who is a pretty good QB. I have a feeling they see Darnold as someone who is Taylor-like with a bit more upside, but not a ton more upside. Allen has a lot more potential upside. I feel like signing Taylor, who isn't that old, gives them the comfort to go for the guy who they see as having more upside potential in time and who fits Dorsey's prototype.


If Darnold doesn't have a lot more upside than Tyrod Taylor he doesn't belong in the first round.
Sam Darnold doesn't have more upside than Tie-Rod?  
Greg from LI : 4/20/2018 2:47 pm : link
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
RE: RE: The way I saw this originally mentioned  
Danny80 : 4/20/2018 3:16 pm : link
In comment 13922912 Big Rick in FL said:
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In comment 13922905 shyster said:


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is that Fox said the Browns' coaches wanted Allen or Mayfield.

That itself might be BS but at least has some shred of plausibility.

Anyone claiming to know what Dorsey thinks is FOS, and I'd say that goes for the "asshat trade" thread as well.

This other item on Fox's twitter supports the notion that he is only actually referencing the coaches' (alleged) opinions:


"Dustin Fox
‏Verified account @DustinFox37

I think Darnold makes the most sense. But I know the coaches arent high on him for whatever reason."

Per cleveland.com, Dorsey will break from his isolation to meet with the offensive staff (including Hue J) this afternoon. But I still suspect that will mostly be a one-way where he will hear what they have to say and not tip his own hand.
DF twit - ( New Window )



Obviously nobody knows for sure, but there are a lot of people who do have inside sources that keep bringing up Allen to the Browns. The Browns have the 1st pick so their is really no reason for them to create smokescreens.


I'm guessing that Cleveland is keeping the smokescreen up because they're trying to maximize the chances of also getting the guy they want with their #4 pick.
RE: Sam Darnold doesn't have more upside than Tie-Rod?  
Victor in CT : 4/20/2018 3:16 pm : link
In comment 13922952 Greg from LI said:
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


You have to feel sorry for the dumb. That he's a Jet fan posting here is just further proof.
The same guys here  
joeinpa : 4/20/2018 3:33 pm : link
That diminish rumors from peopl much more connected, speak with such certainty about their own opinions. lol

Allen, Barkley, Darnold, Mayfield, aren t they all distinct possibilities?
smokescreen  
GeneInCal : 4/20/2018 3:36 pm : link
nothing more.
RE: RE: Sam Darnold doesn't have more upside than Tie-Rod?  
fanofthejets : 4/20/2018 3:39 pm : link
In comment 13922985 Victor in CT said:
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In comment 13922952 Greg from LI said:


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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA



You have to feel sorry for the dumb. That he's a Jet fan posting here is just further proof.


I never said Darnold has less upside than Taylor. Wasn't my post
RE: smokescreen  
Big Rick in FL : 4/20/2018 3:40 pm : link
In comment 13923013 GeneInCal said:
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nothing more.


From what? They pick 1st.
RE: RE: smokescreen  
GeneInCal : 4/20/2018 3:43 pm : link
In comment 13923022 Big Rick in FL said:
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In comment 13923013 GeneInCal said:


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nothing more.



From what? They pick 1st.


They have 4 too.
RE: Don't Believe ANYTHING You Read  
Boy Cord : 4/20/2018 4:55 pm : link
In comment 13922860 Giants34 said:
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It's smarter that way. Ballard - the Colts' GM - was on the NFL Network this morning saying that Dorsey plays things close to the vest. If Fox is leaking this info, it's because Dorsey is attempting to get the Jets to move to 1 to get Mayfield, who they reportedly like.

Simply put, I don't believe anything I read. I believe the Giants are leaking Barkley stuff to get the Browns to take him at 1 so they have their pick of the QBs at 2. The Browns are leaking garbage to try to get more picks to move down and still get their guy at 2 or 3. As the Cards' GM said, it's lying season, so there is no reason to believe anything you read.


Why would the Browns want to move to the 3rd pick? To win the right to get the third QB off the board. That makes no sense.
Article yesterday ...  
Beer Man : 4/20/2018 6:39 pm : link
Made the statement that the Browns owners don't even know what direction Dorsey is going. Dorsey is a seasoned GM, who like Gettlemen has kept everyone guessing what his team will do. I'd bet the Asshat is guessing
RE: Article yesterday ...  
Big Rick in FL : 4/20/2018 9:55 pm : link
In comment 13923209 Beer Man said:
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Made the statement that the Browns owners don't even know what direction Dorsey is going. Dorsey is a seasoned GM, who like Gettlemen has kept everyone guessing what his team will do. I'd bet the Asshat is guessing


The difference with the Giants & Browns is that the Browns pick 1st so they really have no reason to he putting smokescreens out. They get to choose any player they want. We don't.

It's not just Dustin Fox either. A lot of people with ties to Dorsey have said they are taking Allen.

Here's a list just off the top of my head whose said the Browns will pick Allen 1st overall. Peter King, Daniel Jeremiah, Ian O'Connor, Dane Brugler, Lance Zierlein, Marcus Mosher, Kurt Warner and now Dustin Fox. Where there's smoke there's fire.
Taking Mayfield 1st would be such a Browns move  
BigBlue4You09 : 4/20/2018 10:15 pm : link
But I dont see it happening at all
RE: RE: Article yesterday ...  
FStubbs : 4/21/2018 9:29 am : link
In comment 13923495 Big Rick in FL said:
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In comment 13923209 Beer Man said:


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Made the statement that the Browns owners don't even know what direction Dorsey is going. Dorsey is a seasoned GM, who like Gettlemen has kept everyone guessing what his team will do. I'd bet the Asshat is guessing



The difference with the Giants & Browns is that the Browns pick 1st so they really have no reason to he putting smokescreens out. They get to choose any player they want. We don't.

It's not just Dustin Fox either. A lot of people with ties to Dorsey have said they are taking Allen.

Here's a list just off the top of my head whose said the Browns will pick Allen 1st overall. Peter King, Daniel Jeremiah, Ian O'Connor, Dane Brugler, Lance Zierlein, Marcus Mosher, Kurt Warner and now Dustin Fox. Where there's smoke there's fire.


They also have the 4th pick and want to maximize that pick. Tipping their hand on the first pick makes that a lot harder.
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