NFT: Mets at Braves Game 2 THOR

Wow.

Move the fucking runners.

Well, the first two weeks of the season were fun though!

I also would have pinch hit Agon for Nido

:(

I swear the Braves do the effing chop more than they ever have. It's literally every 2 seconds.

Winter Soldier.

In comment 13923599 ZGiants98 said:

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Winter Soldier.

Hey, that’s what I called him! Totally looks like him.

In comment 13923600 PhiPsi125 said:

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In comment 13923599 ZGiants98 said: Quote: Winter Soldier. Hey, that’s what I called him! Totally looks like him.

He does! lol. Im stealing it!

Looks like Gsellman will come out for a third inning....

so we can bring in Familia.

If they cant do it again I give up. lol

for Nimmo

Wow. Cespedes gets a clutch hit again. I swear Cespedes only gets hits when the game is on the line. Crazy.

Launch Angle Baby!

kept going to third.

In comment 13923608 spike said:

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for Nimmo

Nope. Sit Bruce and Cespedes. Let the kids play.

vs a playoff contender. We have a top 5 bullpen.

I feel so dirty, lol. They got away with one.

is da man! MVP

Uninspired baseball for large chunks tonight, but the bullpen and Ces again doing zero but a game-winning hit.

Big, and frankly unexpected, win.

In comment 13923616 PhiPsi125 said:

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I feel so dirty, lol. They got away with one.

ha -- well put! Dirty, but so happy.

It was ugly. Ill take it though. Feels good having deGrom going tomorrow.

Hitting .400 with RISP.

Brilliant. Lol

and is on pace for 300 strikeouts. He's finding a way to eek out game winners but let's be honest... He's still pretty much lost.

They don’t all need to look great. Or even feel good. Scratching some out is what it’s all about.

14-5!

deGrom tomorrow.

Let’s GO!!!

In comment 13923624 ZGiants98 said:

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and is on pace for 300 strikeouts. He's finding a way to eek out game winners but let's be honest... He's still pretty much lost.

Stats don’t matter for some things.

He’s coming through in big spots.

You play him while he’s feeling physically great and let him work through it.

Baseball is game of streaks and everybody goes hot and cold, especially power hitters. Conforto, Cespedes, and Bruce will all have periods where they are red hot. There will be periods when Frazier and Cabrera are lost. Im not overreacting. I do think that when fans get frustrated over "offense" it should be directed at the correct reasons "why" though. For some reason, they will overlook the 25 million super star guy signed to carry you and direct their venom to a "Reyes" or somebody who really has little impact on the team. That's about the only thing that annoys me.

Im still happy to have Cespedes around obviously. He'll come out of it.

around as fans as long as we have, one or two games don’t mean much as far as a trend. In a similar vein, if Ces was doing zero, maybe give him a day off. But despite the average, he’s hitting 400 with RISP, and is on pace for ballpark 160 RBI. So if he’s also on pace for 300 K? Sign me up for a .200 season overall.

as the RBI's are mostly fluky. He isnt going to keep doing this unless he comes out of his slump obviously.

I dont have an issue with being patient. Hell, that's my MO. If that's who you are? Great.

Most fans dont react that way though. Every slump is the end of the world, etc.

I remember last year Granderson had like a 5 wRC+ in April. lol. Everybody wanted him dead. The guy was up to around 115 by the deadline. Its the same crap every year.

The rotation certainly hasnt been stellar although there are signs it might be good, especially when Vargas joins the team. The lineup, especially its biggest stars, have been mostly ice cold. We lost both of our starting catchers. Our prized setup man has been out all year.

The only real difference I see is that we have been relatively healthy. Just having guys like Familia and Syndergaard back makes a massive difference. It just shows how badly injuries wrecked our season last year.

It sounds weird, but all this actually makes me even more optimistic for this season. What happens when guys like Conforto and Cespedes start raking? What happens when Syndergaard is going 7 deep and dominating guys like we know he can? What happens when Swarzak joins the pen? There's still a ton of upside for this team we havent seen yet.

In comment 13923623 Beezer said:

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Hitting .400 with RISP. Brilliant. Lol

You are trying way too hard.

Cespedes has gotten three big hits this season and has sucked the rest of the time. Maybe if he doesn’t strike out four times we win the game in 9 instead of destroying our bullpen. Either way, it’s non sustainable. He’s gonna need to pick it up. And I’m sure he will. But nobody should be exempt from taking a seat for a couple of games when they literally strikeout every other at bat.

Swarzak to get a TJ or amputation next week

if they go .500 the rest of the way, it's 100 wins.

In comment 13923649 madgiantscow009 said:

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if they go .500 the rest of the way, it's 100 wins.

If they go 71-71 that takes us to 85-76

In comment 13923649 madgiantscow009 said:

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if they go .500 the rest of the way, it's 100 wins.

well-played

One of the most disingenuous statements of all time...

In comment 13923818 Shecky said:

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One of the most disingenuous statements of all time...

What’s this from?

he put the bat on the ball when he had to. And he went with the pitch. The reason it went through is only partly luck because the infield had him shaded the other way. You put the ball in play. You go with the pitch instead of trying to hit the big HR. That's how you win games. And that's why sabremetrics only tell you so much.

In comment 13923616 PhiPsi125 said:

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I feel so dirty, lol. They got away with one.

I think that is because as Mets fans we are not accustomed to having a lock-down pen and and a manger who knows how to use the pen (not since Bobby V).

So, yes, Mets offense looked anemic but Braves got nothing going against Mets pen. And Atlanta's pen is also very strong, so it was not just the Mets hitters. It was actually a good game. Mets made some mistakes. Braves did a good job throwing guys out. In the end, Mets prevailed because they are the stronger team.

In comment 13923849 PhiPsi125 said:

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In comment 13923818 Shecky said: Quote: One of the most disingenuous statements of all time... What’s this from?

Cespedes playing golf?

pitched a perfect inning last night for the 51's in a blowout loss.

In comment 13923879 Vanzetti said:

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he put the bat on the ball when he had to. And he went with the pitch. The reason it went through is only partly luck because the infield had him shaded the other way. You put the ball in play. You go with the pitch instead of trying to hit the big HR. That's how you win games. And that's why sabremetrics only tell you so much.

I hate when people make the excuse that a player was horrible the whole game but came through when it mattered. It doesn’t make any sense. Did he not have to put the bat on the ball in the previous 4 at bats? Was there not an opportunity to contribute to the offense when he struck out 4 times in a row? Maybe we could have won the game in 9 innings instead of crushing the BP but having to use them through 12 innings.

I’m glad he’s had a few clutch games (through luck or not) but I can’t stress this enough...Cespedes is killing this team right now.

In comment 13923962 PhiPsi125 said:

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In comment 13923879 Vanzetti said: Quote: he put the bat on the ball when he had to. And he went with the pitch. The reason it went through is only partly luck because the infield had him shaded the other way. You put the ball in play. You go with the pitch instead of trying to hit the big HR. That's how you win games. And that's why sabremetrics only tell you so much. I hate when people make the excuse that a player was horrible the whole game but came through when it mattered. It doesn’t make any sense. Did he not have to put the bat on the ball in the previous 4 at bats? Was there not an opportunity to contribute to the offense when he struck out 4 times in a row? Maybe we could have won the game in 9 innings instead of crushing the BP but having to use them through 12 innings. I’m glad he’s had a few clutch games (through luck or not) but I can’t stress this enough...Cespedes is killing this team right now.

That’s like saying Mookie Wilson’s AB in the 1986 WOrld Series wasn’t big because after all if Mookie had hit a three run homer earlier in the game, Mets would have won in regulation.

Your manager bunted a guy over to put him in scoring position for you and Conforto. Conforto pops up. Now it is all on you because it’s the 12th inning and bullpen is stretched. That’s big AB and Cespedes game through.

The guy is tied for the league lead in RBIs and people are criticizing him
Because his OPS is not up to snuff. Ces is paid to drive in runs and that is what he is doing. Nuff said

“Matt Harvey is going to the bullpen, Mickey Callaway said. To make room for Jason Vargas’s return. He was informed today.”

In comment 13924084 BigBlue4You09 said:

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“Matt Harvey is going to the bullpen, Mickey Callaway said. To make room for Jason Vargas’s return. He was informed today.”

Excellent. This is 100% the right call. Glad to see Callaway pay no attention to name value here. If Harvey is possibly going to help this team, he has a whole reinvention to go through. He needs to pursue that retool in low leverage situations. Vargas should stablize the back-end of the rotation.

Really glad this was done quickly and that the right call was made.

Good organizational work here

In comment 13924035 Vanzetti said:

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In comment 13923962 PhiPsi125 said: Quote: In comment 13923879 Vanzetti said: Quote: he put the bat on the ball when he had to. And he went with the pitch. The reason it went through is only partly luck because the infield had him shaded the other way. You put the ball in play. You go with the pitch instead of trying to hit the big HR. That's how you win games. And that's why sabremetrics only tell you so much. I hate when people make the excuse that a player was horrible the whole game but came through when it mattered. It doesn’t make any sense. Did he not have to put the bat on the ball in the previous 4 at bats? Was there not an opportunity to contribute to the offense when he struck out 4 times in a row? Maybe we could have won the game in 9 innings instead of crushing the BP but having to use them through 12 innings. I’m glad he’s had a few clutch games (through luck or not) but I can’t stress this enough...Cespedes is killing this team right now. That’s like saying Mookie Wilson’s AB in the 1986 WOrld Series wasn’t big because after all if Mookie had hit a three run homer earlier in the game, Mets would have won in regulation. Your manager bunted a guy over to put him in scoring position for you and Conforto. Conforto pops up. Now it is all on you because it’s the 12th inning and bullpen is stretched. That’s big AB and Cespedes game through. The guy is tied for the league lead in RBIs and people are criticizing him Because his OPS is not up to snuff. Ces is paid to drive in runs and that is what he is doing. Nuff said

First off, I never said that Cespedes' hit wasn't big. Let's keep to the facts and not make stuff up to support your narrative.

Second, if Mookie had hit a 3 run HR earlier in the game, is it safe to say that we wouldn't have had to rely on an error to win that game? It was still a big play. But more because of Bill Buckner...not Mookie hitting a routine ground ball right at the first baseman.

If your point is that Mookie "put the bat on the ball", well then, he sure did. He also put the bat on the ball 4 out of 5 times that game. Cespedes struck out 4 times last night and has a 40% k rate. He's actually been quite bad at putting the bat on the ball. In fact, I doubt he'd be getting as much criticism if he actually COULD put the bat on the ball.

Cespedes overall stats are god-awful, has a negative WAR, strikes out every other at bat. He deserves to be criticized if a fan chooses to.

Nuff said? Jesus.

In comment 13924088 jpkmets said:

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In comment 13924084 BigBlue4You09 said: Quote: “Matt Harvey is going to the bullpen, Mickey Callaway said. To make room for Jason Vargas’s return. He was informed today.” Excellent. This is 100% the right call. Glad to see Callaway pay no attention to name value here. If Harvey is possibly going to help this team, he has a whole reinvention to go through. He needs to pursue that retool in low leverage situations. Vargas should stablize the back-end of the rotation. Really glad this was done quickly and that the right call was made. Good organizational work here

I'm actually quite shocked by this. I agree with a lot of what you said. Maybe there is hope for Harvey to turn it around but who knows how he is going to handle this move (from an attitude perspective).

comments today, it appears he accepts that he's playing like shit and accepts he needs to work that shit out in the bullpen.

Maybe he'll handle this just fine.