Last year Gettlemen had Webb in for a private workout

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they may have had needs or higher rated players

In comment 13924021 SHO'NUFF said:

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they may have had needs or higher rated players

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In comment 13924021 SHO'NUFF said: Quote: they may have had needs or higher rated players Taylor Moton

and McCaffrey #1, Curtis Samuel #2.

favorite targets last year, right before the Webb pick.

This information adds nothing to the mystery of who the Giants will draft with the second overall pick or how Gettleman views Webb.

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This information adds nothing to the mystery of who the Giants will draft with the second overall pick or how Gettleman views Webb.

I want the giants to draft a quarterback but I'm not in denial about the fact that all signs are pointing away from that direction. That's dumb as is but if Gettlemen liked Webb on tape enough to have him in for a private workout and came away unimpressed then that's REALLY dumb.

a high priority for the Panthers. They were know doubt just doing their due diligence on a guy they rated very highly.

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In comment 13924047 Milton said: Quote: This information adds nothing to the mystery of who the Giants will draft with the second overall pick or how Gettleman views Webb. I want the giants to draft a quarterback but I'm not in denial about the fact that all signs are pointing away from that direction. That's dumb as is but if Gettlemen liked Webb on tape enough to have him in for a private workout and came away unimpressed then that's REALLY dumb.

In total agreement . Nice job .

Not enough info on him. If you get a chance to draft a Franchise QB you draft him. If they dont feel good about the QBs Webb gets another year to marinate. Webb is here for 3 more years regardless.

All good things said about Webb but you hear a lot about him being such a hard worker and study guy but not much about how he plays. Might be a Garrett type, good back up and future coach. I hope he is more than that but we as fans have no insight into him as a player.

I think we are going QB 100% and the Giants are talking up Barkley to try and have a shot at the QB they want and Cleveland again screws up and takes Barkley at 1 and the 3rd best QB at 4.

I like how Gettlemen is playing this close to the vest.

said that Webb has no impact on what the Giants do at #2.

then not picking one wouldn't be affected by the Webb workout.

I haven't changed my view that a trade down to #5-7 is highly possible, potentially in two steps depending how step one plays out. Still get a blue chip, and several more chips.

but what was his impression? He has the work ethic but does he have the skill set . Now with Shurmnur and Shula evaluating him we should have that answer. If it is positive. We have a very productive draft. If not we take a QB, Simple arithmetic ,

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said that Webb has no impact on what the Giants do at #2.

Thats nonsense IMO. if Webb is not a promising replacement t for ELI you have to think QB this year or next. Unless you think he will last for 4/5 more years.

Why is this your conclusion? Teams meet with dozens and dozens of prospects every year before the draft. The last GM had a practice of specifically meeting with players they had the most questions about, while sometimes never meeting with players they liked enough to actually draft.

And KC traded in front of us to draft Kareem Hunt, one of my
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favorite targets last year, right before the Webb pick.

Hunt had a hell of a rookie year , unfortunately Foreman broke is leg while scoring or a knee can't remeber which it was but We still need a Starting caliber back not a castoff or has been time to get an ace RB

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said that Webb has no impact on what the Giants do at #2.

That's not exactly what he said. He said that whatever Webb does at practice this week will have no impact on the draft. Slight difference.

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Q: Is it naïve to think that the three days next week where you will see Davis Webb can change your board? A: Nothing is going to totally change the top of the board. Seeing Davis next week is going to be fun for us because he’s a great kid, he works his fanny off, he has been following Eli (Manning) around like a little puppy dog since he walked in the door and it will be a neat opportunity to see him play. Yeah, sure, everything affects the board. I’d be lying if I said no, but at the end of the day, I’m looking forward to it.

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Why is this your conclusion? Teams meet with dozens and dozens of prospects every year before the draft. The last GM had a practice of specifically meeting with players they had the most questions about, while sometimes never meeting with players they liked enough to actually draft.

That’s what Reese did. It’s hasn’t been Gettlemen’s philosophy either in Carolina or from what we can tell so far in NY.

They said it. Outside of knowing that he’s studious, they know about as much of him as they do the draft prospects. Even the guys who drafted Webb saw him as a project. That’s why he went in round 3 instead of 1.

If their guy is there at 2 they will pull the trigger. If the prospects don’t grade out, they will go in a different direction. This is not complicated.

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In comment 13924398 Ten Ton Hammer said: Quote: Why is this your conclusion? Teams meet with dozens and dozens of prospects every year before the draft. The last GM had a practice of specifically meeting with players they had the most questions about, while sometimes never meeting with players they liked enough to actually draft. That’s what Reese did. It’s hasn’t been Gettlemen’s philosophy either in Carolina or from what we can tell so far in NY.

We have no info on his approach, so I wouldn't assume anything either way. Every team gets at least 30 private workouts. The Giants just concluded theirs, and the list of names who were invited range from Bradley Chubb to guys who are projected to maybe go in round 5 if drafted at all.

having a private workout does not mean "having a player in" to team headqarters because out-of-area players cannot be worked out when they are brought in for visits.

Private workouts are often done in conjunction with a player's school pro day.

Some GMs travel for pro days but DG says he hates them and he did not attend any this year for the Giants.

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In comment 13924047 Milton said: Quote: This information adds nothing to the mystery of who the Giants will draft with the second overall pick or how Gettleman views Webb. I want the giants to draft a quarterback but I'm not in denial about the fact that all signs are pointing away from that direction. That's dumb as is but if Gettlemen liked Webb on tape enough to have him in for a private workout and came away unimpressed then that's REALLY dumb.

Why is that really dumb? Maybe he had him in because he thought he had good tools but came away thinking he required too much development. Or what's most likely, he had him thinking he was a candidate for a Day 3 pick and it just didn't work out that way. The Giants drafted Nassib and Woodson on Day 3, it doesn't mean they would've passed up a top ten pick QB if Eli was 37 years old at the time.

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a high priority for the Panthers. They were know doubt just doing their due diligence on a guy they rated very highly.

No, they were doing their due diligence on a guy they wanted to know more about. What exactly does it mean to have a guy rated "very highly"? It's a relative term. If you draft someone in the 5th round does that mean he was rated very highly? Or is "very highly" only reserved for guys drafted in the 1st round? When the Giants drafted Nassib in round 3, did they think very highly of him or just highly? What's above very highly? Loved? Would you pass on a QB you loved because you already had a QB you thought very highly of on your roster?

Usually teams with a young franchise QB already place (like Cam Newton) are looking for a QB they think can be landed on Day 3. The fact that Gettleman had Webb in for a workout last year is not some new clue that will help us determine what the Giants will do with the #2 overall pick.

for out-of-area players are generally "out" not "in".

Pertinent in this case because it means DG most likely didn't see Webb.

and still not take a QB with their first pick.

with a really pretty girl names Sarah Rosen. He had a crush on her but she was dating another guy. He has never gotten over her. Come Thursday, this will be his chance to finally land his Rosen.

Ignore this if you want, but it's pretty obvious this fact will be the catalyst for the Giants draft strategy.

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and still not take a QB with their first pick.

This +1000

can know for sure that will be critical to deciding who the Giants will draft.

We don't know if Shurmur and DG love one of these QBs or not. Rumors aside, that is question #1 that will likely be answered Thursday night. It's logical to assume if they do they take him (if available at #2).

We have no idea if they believe they can get a couple of years out of Eli and want that time to evaluate Webb before jumping in on a QB. They probably don't have a fully formed idea about Webb because they have so little info to go on. However, I think it is fair to assume they have not decided he is the QB of the future. Again, very limited hands on experience with him.

We have no idea what trade down options are actually on the table - or will be on the table - when the Giants pick. They could like someone other than a QB at #2, but get blown away with an offer that is too good to pass up.

If nothing else, the current group has certainly kept all options on the table - at least publicly - just a few days ahead of the draft.