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NFT: Mets @ Braves Game 3 - 7:10 p.m.

jpkmets : 4/21/2018 7:04 pm
M. Conforto CF
Y. Cespedes LF
A. Cabrera 2B
J. Bruce RF
T. Frazier 3B
A. Gonzalez 1B
J. Lobaton C
J. deGrom P
J. Reyes SS

No Nimmo tonight -- had hoped he might get in for Bruce or Conforto -- but Reyes gets a start. Hopefully he can get something at all going offensively.
Baf guys lineup:  
jpkmets : 4/21/2018 7:05 pm : link
E. Inciarte CF
O. Albies 2B
F. Freeman
N. Markakis
P. Tucker LF
D. Swanson SS
J. Camargo 3B
C. Perez C
J. Teheran P
*bad guys  
jpkmets : 4/21/2018 7:06 pm : link
that is.
Reyes gets a start when Rosario has a good game  
PhiPsi125 : 4/21/2018 7:09 pm : link
But Nimmo can’t see the field when Jay Bruce is horrific at the plate and in the field? I just don’t get it.
RE: Reyes gets a start when Rosario has a good game  
jpkmets : 4/21/2018 7:11 pm : link
In comment 13924320 PhiPsi125 said:
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But Nimmo can’t see the field when Jay Bruce is horrific at the plate and in the field? I just don’t get it.


Guess that Callaway feels like the righty ace Teheran is a better fit for Bruce than Rosario.

Hopefully we see Nimmo day game after night game tomorrow.
LGM  
allstarjim : 4/21/2018 7:12 pm : link
Big game tonight. Phillies are winning in the 9th inning, breathing down our necks. I know, I know, really early. But I'd like to keep them down.
Someone please explain the love affair  
Chris L. : 4/21/2018 7:12 pm : link
with Jose Reyes????
The lineup is struggling and there was an opportunity  
PhiPsi125 : 4/21/2018 7:13 pm : link
to make it better (at least for one game)...but Mickey chooses to make it worse. SMH.
Bruce knocked the crap out of that one  
jpkmets : 4/21/2018 7:16 pm : link
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Oh that Cespedes...really putting that bat on the ball  
PhiPsi125 : 4/21/2018 7:17 pm : link
Er, strikeout.
deGrom  
jpkmets : 4/21/2018 7:23 pm : link
looks dominant.

Let's rattle the bats, Mets!
RE: Someone please explain the love affair  
jpkmets : 4/21/2018 7:26 pm : link
In comment 13924327 Chris L. said:
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with Jose Reyes????


I wouldn't call it a love affair.

You have a long-time starter on your bench. You have to get him so AB's if you are going to carry him and resting your raw SS against a team's ace ahead of a night game seems a logical spot.

I don't dislike the occasional start for Jose. You've got to use him sometimes if you are going to carry him.

Much more puzzled by the willingness to run Bruce out night after night right now when he's been recovering from plantar fasciitis and struggling.

But, I guess Mickey 100% believes that these vets will get going only by playing. He's been good so far, so I am going to quit bitching.

Pretty sure one of the OF's gets a rest tomorrow in the day game.
RE: Someone please explain the love affair  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/21/2018 7:45 pm : link
In comment 13924327 Chris L. said:
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with Jose Reyes????


I don't think 21 at bats on the season qualifies as a "love affair".
There ya go  
jpkmets : 4/21/2018 7:46 pm : link
Jose!
RE: Someone please explain the love affair  
jpkmets : 4/21/2018 7:46 pm : link
In comment 13924327 Chris L. said:
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with Jose Reyes????


OPS of 2.000 in his last one AB.
Amazing where we are in the standings  
Rob in Rockaway : 4/21/2018 7:50 pm : link
with Ces, Bruce, and Conforto struggling like this. Also with Thor not going deep, and Matz/Harvey results.

I've watched every game and still trying to figure out how we are 14-5...
OK Ces  
jpkmets : 4/21/2018 7:52 pm : link
pretend it's the 12th inning.
Ugh Ces  
jpkmets : 4/21/2018 7:54 pm : link
about 2 hours before we may see a good at-bat from Ces.

C'mon Cabrera. It's up to you as usual!
RE: Amazing where we are in the standings  
jpkmets : 4/21/2018 7:54 pm : link
In comment 13924364 Rob in Rockaway said:
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with Ces, Bruce, and Conforto struggling like this. Also with Thor not going deep, and Matz/Harvey results.

I've watched every game and still trying to figure out how we are 14-5...


It's really true. Comes down to bullpen, Cabrera, Frazier and occasional timely hitting by the cold crew.
RE: Oh that Cespedes...really putting that bat on the ball  
Vanzetti : 4/21/2018 8:00 pm : link
In comment 13924334 PhiPsi125 said:
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Er, strikeout.


Lol :)))
bummed to not get at least one in there  
jpkmets : 4/21/2018 8:00 pm : link
but at least made Tehran work a bit.
RE: Amazing where we are in the standings  
PhiPsi125 : 4/21/2018 8:01 pm : link
In comment 13924364 Rob in Rockaway said:
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with Ces, Bruce, and Conforto struggling like this. Also with Thor not going deep, and Matz/Harvey results.

I've watched every game and still trying to figure out how we are 14-5...


Honestly, it’s luck. We went 12-1 with okay/not great pitching, mostly clutch hitting and many things just going the Mets way. Totally not sustainable. I was just hoping that the hitting would come around before that ended. It hasn’t. So that pretty much makes us a .500 team which is exactly what we’ve been playing like. I mean, every other NL East team has pretty much been overachieving with their offense outside of the Mets who are dreadful. Not sure what the deal is.
It's baseball  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/21/2018 8:15 pm : link
There's no reason to overthink anything until the weather warms up.
RE: RE: Amazing where we are in the standings  
Rory : 4/21/2018 8:33 pm : link
In comment 13924378 PhiPsi125 said:
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In comment 13924364 Rob in Rockaway said:


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with Ces, Bruce, and Conforto struggling like this. Also with Thor not going deep, and Matz/Harvey results.

I've watched every game and still trying to figure out how we are 14-5...



Honestly, it’s luck. We went 12-1 with okay/not great pitching, mostly clutch hitting and many things just going the Mets way. Totally not sustainable. I was just hoping that the hitting would come around before that ended. It hasn’t. So that pretty much makes us a .500 team which is exactly what we’ve been playing like. I mean, every other NL East team has pretty much been overachieving with their offense outside of the Mets who are dreadful. Not sure what the deal is.


Will you relax lol
RE: RE: RE: Amazing where we are in the standings  
PhiPsi125 : 4/21/2018 8:40 pm : link
In comment 13924400 Rory said:
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In comment 13924378 PhiPsi125 said:


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In comment 13924364 Rob in Rockaway said:


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with Ces, Bruce, and Conforto struggling like this. Also with Thor not going deep, and Matz/Harvey results.

I've watched every game and still trying to figure out how we are 14-5...



Honestly, it’s luck. We went 12-1 with okay/not great pitching, mostly clutch hitting and many things just going the Mets way. Totally not sustainable. I was just hoping that the hitting would come around before that ended. It hasn’t. So that pretty much makes us a .500 team which is exactly what we’ve been playing like. I mean, every other NL East team has pretty much been overachieving with their offense outside of the Mets who are dreadful. Not sure what the deal is.



Will you relax lol


Um, okay? Im fine...thanks bud.
Lord, these catchers really stink at throwing.  
PhiPsi125 : 4/21/2018 8:49 pm : link
Stolen bases are almost automatic.
Lucky break.  
PhiPsi125 : 4/21/2018 8:50 pm : link
Clears the bases.
Braves have  
Rory : 4/21/2018 8:53 pm : link
A solid young pitching starting staff, it’s not just the Mets that are having difficulty hitting them.
RE: Braves have  
PhiPsi125 : 4/21/2018 8:59 pm : link
In comment 13924418 Rory said:
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A solid young pitching starting staff, it’s not just the Mets that are having difficulty hitting them.


Of course they do. But the offense hasn’t been struggling for just the last two and a half games. Not really sure why you took issue with my comment. It was merely factual in response to another post, unless you disagree.
We are getting close to Cespedes Time!  
PhiPsi125 : 4/21/2018 9:04 pm : link
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deGrom is just amazing  
jpkmets : 4/21/2018 9:13 pm : link
how about getting this guy a fucking run!!?!?!?!
RE: Braves have  
Jay on the Island : 4/21/2018 9:14 pm : link
In comment 13924418 Rory said:
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A solid young pitching starting staff, it’s not just the Mets that are having difficulty hitting them.

It'll be better when the top pitching prospects Luiz Gohara, Mike Soroka, Max Fried and possibly Kyle Wright and Kolby Allard get here this year. I would like to see Newcomb moved to the pen just for this year if they are in the hunt for a WC spot. With the success of Gsellman and Lugo in the pen I would like to see the Braves take a similar approach with Newk.
RE: We are getting close to Cespedes Time!  
Vanzetti : 4/21/2018 9:14 pm : link
In comment 13924424 PhiPsi125 said:
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That’s right, baby. Get ready!!
Another game decided by the pen  
Jay on the Island : 4/21/2018 9:16 pm : link
last night's loser was DFA'd so hopefully they don't use his replacement tonight.
Gorgeous bunt by Reyes  
jpkmets : 4/21/2018 9:18 pm : link
Reyes OPS of 2.000 in last 3 ABs now!!!
Tempted to hit Lagares for Conforto here  
jpkmets : 4/21/2018 9:19 pm : link
he's been way out of whack since he got back.

Please no DP
Conforto  
jpkmets : 4/21/2018 9:22 pm : link
bailed out by Albies dropping that ball.

Man, this team cannot hit at all right now.

Praying for a sac fly from Ces.

Dude needs to make some goddamn contact.
whoa -- did not think they'd overturn  
jpkmets : 4/21/2018 9:24 pm : link
that call.

Someone please get a goddamn run home from third in the next two batters.

PLEASE
Cespedes fails  
jpkmets : 4/21/2018 9:26 pm : link
goddamn, heartburn index 7.0

Please Cabrera, do something for fuck's sake.
Really Cespedes?  
Rflairr : 4/21/2018 9:27 pm : link
WTF
Cabrera  
jpkmets : 4/21/2018 9:27 pm : link
NL MVP for April!!!!!!!

Droobs  
Mike in NY : 4/21/2018 9:28 pm : link
!
Cabrera  
Rflairr : 4/21/2018 9:28 pm : link
Has been the Mets player this season. Wow
best  
Rflairr : 4/21/2018 9:28 pm : link
.
Bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuce  
jpkmets : 4/21/2018 9:29 pm : link
Huge hit right there!

Oh yes  
Rflairr : 4/21/2018 9:29 pm : link
.
Ugh you have got to get the sf there  
Rflairr : 4/21/2018 9:31 pm : link
. Swinging like that when you need a sf. Unreal
not sure letting Lobaton bat here  
jpkmets : 4/21/2018 9:31 pm : link
makes sense to me.
Hopefully that Frazier AB  
Rflairr : 4/21/2018 9:33 pm : link
Doesn’t bite them.
cmon Ramos. Throw a  
jpkmets : 4/21/2018 9:39 pm : link
fucking strike.

Goddamn.
Lead off walk  
Rflairr : 4/21/2018 9:39 pm : link
Come on Jeesh.
RE: Lead off walk  
Jay on the Island : 4/21/2018 9:40 pm : link
In comment 13924504 Rflairr said:
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Come on Jeesh.

You can't stop Ryan Flaherty you can only hope to contain him.
good comeback in that AB  
jpkmets : 4/21/2018 9:41 pm : link
by Ramos.

Good mound visit by Eiland!
Get Ramos out  
Metnut : 4/21/2018 9:43 pm : link
of there. He has no command
He better go get Ramos  
Rflairr : 4/21/2018 9:43 pm : link
.
And Ramos fucking around  
jpkmets : 4/21/2018 9:43 pm : link
again.

This team is all about the blood pressure raise.

Hook this guy.

Maybe he can't do this back to back deal.

We need Swarzak back badly.

Blevins has been wretched lately. Need a quality AB here against Freeman.
Hansel Robles  
Mike in NY : 4/21/2018 9:44 pm : link
At least he threw strikes
Benitez 3  
Vanzetti : 4/21/2018 9:44 pm : link
Glad we executed that clever trade for Ramos at 9 million instead of resigning Addison Reed
Can Blevins finally come in and do his job  
Rflairr : 4/21/2018 9:45 pm : link
He’s here for Harper and Chipper Jr
I want to punch Ramos in the face  
allstarjim : 4/21/2018 9:46 pm : link
that is all.
Of course he can’t  
Rflairr : 4/21/2018 9:46 pm : link
.
Damn...  
Metnut : 4/21/2018 9:46 pm : link
he wasn’t fooled by Blevins.

Still up 3-2 let’s get out of this.
2 walks  
Rflairr : 4/21/2018 9:47 pm : link
Basically helped them
You're up 3-0  
allstarjim : 4/21/2018 9:53 pm : link
You throw fastballs on the corners and let them get themselves out. Got too cute and walked guys. Make them earn it.
Famillia better not come in bouncing that splitter  
Rflairr : 4/21/2018 9:53 pm : link
With a runner on 3B
Callaway needs to do better at pinch hitting  
jpkmets : 4/21/2018 9:54 pm : link
if you are going to double-switch Lobaton, how do you let him hit with the bases loaded last inning?

Cmon Fam, get out of this
BIG K  
jpkmets : 4/21/2018 9:55 pm : link
Let's get some more runs.
Let's go  
allstarjim : 4/21/2018 9:56 pm : link
Please just get 3 more outs.
Time to call up Acuna  
Jay on the Island : 4/21/2018 9:57 pm : link
The Braves need a legitimate cleanup hitter if they are going to in the hunt for a WC spot. Having Nick Markakis as your cleanup hitter is a joke.
RE: Callaway needs to do better at pinch hitting  
Mike in NY : 4/21/2018 9:58 pm : link
In comment 13924529 jpkmets said:
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if you are going to double-switch Lobaton, how do you let him hit with the bases loaded last inning?

Cmon Fam, get out of this


I don’t think he intended to double switch but Ramos and Blevins couldn’t get it done
Jesus umps  
jpkmets : 4/21/2018 10:04 pm : link
that was 5 feet foul.
I mean  
allstarjim : 4/21/2018 10:06 pm : link
At least Cespedes made some contact. 8 Ks in this series? Giminy Christmas.
Trying to give this game away  
Rflairr : 4/21/2018 10:09 pm : link
Another lead off walk. Crazy
Tying  
pjcas18 : 4/21/2018 10:09 pm : link
run on 3rd.
Lovely  
Mike in NY : 4/21/2018 10:09 pm : link
We can’t hit strike zone with 50 foot pole
0h  
madgiantscow009 : 4/21/2018 10:13 pm : link
poop.
I knew that Frazier AB was going to burn them  
Rflairr : 4/21/2018 10:14 pm : link
He needed to get that sf
Bruce is sooo slow  
Metnut : 4/21/2018 10:14 pm : link
out there. This sucks
Another dominant Jake start blown  
Rflairr : 4/21/2018 10:15 pm : link
.. 3-0 in the 8th inning
Fuck Ramos  
allstarjim : 4/21/2018 10:16 pm : link
Seriously, deGrom deserves a lot better than he's gotten from his teammates. What a collection of bums and I can't believe they are doing this shit to me yet again this year.

And can Familia ever get the first guy out in an inning? Seriously, I'd like to see that sometime. FFS this team.
Might as well  
allstarjim : 4/21/2018 10:16 pm : link
Turn it off, I've seen this story before.
Well...at least the first two weeks were fun  
moespree : 4/21/2018 10:17 pm : link
Now it's back to reality.
Seen this show before. Can’t win games when you leave 20  
PhiPsi125 : 4/21/2018 10:19 pm : link
people on base. Here’s looking at you Ces.

Keep trotting Bruce out there with Nimmo and Lagares on the bench Mickey. It’s clearly working.
Familia is one free agent I am not upset to see leave  
bhill410 : 4/21/2018 10:20 pm : link
This offseason. Dude is maddening.
RE: Hopefully that Frazier AB  
Rflairr : 4/21/2018 10:20 pm : link
In comment 13924491 Rflairr said:
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Doesn’t bite them.


Good Job Toddfather.
This is on Callaway  
Rob in Rockaway : 4/21/2018 10:24 pm : link
you have to know that Enciarte burns this team every time. Walk that fuck and setup the Double Play!!!

Oh and if Jeurys walks in the winning run I'll live with it.
RE: Familia is one free agent I am not upset to see leave  
Metnut : 4/21/2018 10:24 pm : link
In comment 13924560 bhill410 said:
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This offseason. Dude is maddening.


Not like he was hit hard. Defense let him down. Was a joke that hit wasn’t held to a single.
Benitez 2 and Benitez 3  
Vanzetti : 4/21/2018 10:25 pm : link
With an assist from Jerry B, who has been awful this season

RE: This is on Callaway  
Rob in Rockaway : 4/21/2018 10:30 pm : link
In comment 13924563 Rob in Rockaway said:
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you have to know that Enciarte burns this team every time. Walk that fuck and setup the Double Play!!!

Oh and if Jeurys walks in the winning run I'll live with it.


Oh yeah and Freeman was 9 for 18 against Blevins for a reason.
Hey, wanna watch the Mets game tonight?  
allstarjim : 4/21/2018 10:37 pm : link
Nah, let's just kick each other in the nuts right now, then the rest of the evening is free for something enjoyable.
RE: Familia is one free agent I am not upset to see leave  
mphbullet36 : 4/21/2018 10:38 pm : link
In comment 13924560 bhill410 said:
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This offseason. Dude is maddening.


it was hit hard but that needs to be a double play.

Gary said it right off the bat...and camargo hits a double play ball...that gets by cabrera

Cabrera has been a beast offensively but his range at 2nd is non existent...matter of fact Cabrera, Gonzalez, and Bruce might make up the least athletic group of fielders on the right side ever. They cost us some many hits because there lack of range...
RE: RE: This is on Callaway  
Rflairr : 4/21/2018 10:40 pm : link
In comment 13924571 Rob in Rockaway said:
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In comment 13924563 Rob in Rockaway said:


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you have to know that Enciarte burns this team every time. Walk that fuck and setup the Double Play!!!

Oh and if Jeurys walks in the winning run I'll live with it.



Oh yeah and Freeman was 9 for 18 against Blevins for a reason.


They need a lefty in this pen. If he isn't coming in walking Harper, he's getting pounded by Freeman. So what good as he?
Callaway was never gonna bat 1.000 all year, hopefully he's learning  
Eric on Li : 4/21/2018 10:40 pm : link
from the mistakes. In a 1 run game you have to get Lagares or Nimmo in the OF instead of Bruce. I know he'd just gotten a hit and he was due up if the game continued, but you have to play to win that inning.

I don't fault him for starting the 8th with Ramos, but at some point someone has to take the blame for the entire BP walking runners in front of the best hitters the opposing team has. It's the height of insanity with multi-run leads. MAKE THEM AT LEAST HIT THE BALL.

I know he hasn't had that many bad deals, but Ramos has to be Sandy's worst trade ever. Reed would have been cheaper to sign back, didn't cost a top 10 prospect, and was proven in the 8th inning role. I didn't watch Ramos a ton in Miami but I know the walk issues aren't a new thing.
Do you think  
allstarjim : 4/21/2018 10:40 pm : link
deGrom feels like he was just fucked out of the last 3 hours of his life like I do? At least he got paid for it.
RE: Callaway was never gonna bat 1.000 all year, hopefully he's learning  
allstarjim : 4/21/2018 10:41 pm : link
In comment 13924580 Eric on Li said:
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from the mistakes. In a 1 run game you have to get Lagares or Nimmo in the OF instead of Bruce. I know he'd just gotten a hit and he was due up if the game continued, but you have to play to win that inning.

I don't fault him for starting the 8th with Ramos, but at some point someone has to take the blame for the entire BP walking runners in front of the best hitters the opposing team has. It's the height of insanity with multi-run leads. MAKE THEM AT LEAST HIT THE BALL.

I know he hasn't had that many bad deals, but Ramos has to be Sandy's worst trade ever. Reed would have been cheaper to sign back, didn't cost a top 10 prospect, and was proven in the 8th inning role. I didn't watch Ramos a ton in Miami but I know the walk issues aren't a new thing.


The Swarzak oblique really cost us. We need him back. And honestly, I'd like to see more Gershon Bautista back rather than these knuckleheads.
is he  
Rflairr : 4/21/2018 10:44 pm : link
.
Just wanted to remind you guys that  
GiantFilthy : 4/22/2018 10:00 pm : link
during this Braves comeback win, the Mets gave up a ground ball triple to Johan Camargo.
RE: Just wanted to remind you guys that  
arcarsenal : 4/22/2018 11:39 pm : link
In comment 13925563 GiantFilthy said:
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during this Braves comeback win, the Mets gave up a ground ball triple to Johan Camargo.


One of the most inexplicable triples I've seen.. ever. And I've been watching baseball for a fair amount of time now.

I think Mickey is riding Familia a little too much in the early going. He's on pace for like 100 innings, which would be like 20+ more than he's ever pitched before.

He's already lead all of baseball in games finished in 2015 and 2016 - he's leading the league again now.

So, this guy is being ridden harder than pretty much any other closer in the league.

Not hindsight - but I actually thought the right move last night would have been to use Familia to get that final out in the 8th - which Mickey did - but then I would have used Sewald in the 9th.

I know people feel uneasy when Familia is in the game because he can lose the strike zone a bit and has a knack for making things interesting. But the guy has a 1.50 ERA right now. 2.40 FIP and an 11.3 k/9. He's still been really good despite the mishaps.

I just think we need to be a little more flexible and make sure we keep him fresh.

How many closers would you take over him right now?

Wade Davis is the only guy with more saves in the early going this year. I know that doesn't mean everything - but pretty much every closer in this league blows saves.

Kenley Jansen has two blown saves and a 7.50 ERA. Would you rather have him?
red hot Phils  
spike : 4/23/2018 9:22 pm : link
are just 0.5 game behind the Mets
The Yo garden gnome is pretty funny.  
madgiantscow009 : 4/23/2018 11:56 pm : link
Kinda feel like that garbage inning last week shook the entire pen's  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/23/2018 11:59 pm : link
confidence.
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