Can't someone just be normally, flippantly, casually, momentarily critical of something?
Is it outrage at a four way stop and someone waves you ahead and let's their foot off the break at the same time, or when there's just a little bit of crushed up pretzel on the only open seat on the subway?
Must we either be silent or outraged? Can't we just be averagely, unoutrageosly upset!
Blame the OP. The precedent was set when he said it caused an uproar. Generally, uproars do not occur without outrage.
Is someone makes a comment in general about people being outraged, that doesnt necessarily point to you. Apparently there is outrage. Whether or not you fall into that category is entirely for you to decide, but that also has no bearing whatsoever on whether or not something exists.
Holy shit, this again.
I got the word uproar from NY Giants beat writer Ryan Dunleavy's tweet. And sure, when one person disagrees with someone or something and moves on it doesn't register, but when the picture goes viral and literally thousands of people stop to voice their displeasure and cause Jay Feely to be trending on twitter forcing him to issue an apology I think I'm ok with the use of the word uproar.
but again, for the pedantic among us who can't focus on their day to day life tasks while that word (uproar) is in this thread I re-post this sentence below - so pick a different word (fuss?) and maybe you can get past it, if not, keep causing an uproar:
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I am fine with uproar, especially since I got it from someone else's tweet. If you prefer outcry or furor, fuss or reaction then in your mind replace the word uproar with any one of them. I'm totally fine with replacing the word uproar and it not changing anything.
Can't someone just be normally, flippantly, casually, momentarily critical of something?
Is it outrage at a four way stop and someone waves you ahead and let's their foot off the break at the same time, or when there's just a little bit of crushed up pretzel on the only open seat on the subway?
Must we either be silent or outraged? Can't we just be averagely, unoutrageosly upset!
Blame the OP. The precedent was set when he said it caused an uproar. Generally, uproars do not occur without outrage.
Is someone makes a comment in general about people being outraged, that doesnt necessarily point to you. Apparently there is outrage. Whether or not you fall into that category is entirely for you to decide, but that also has no bearing whatsoever on whether or not something exists.
Holy shit, this again.
I got the word uproar from NY Giants beat writer Ryan Dunleavy's tweet. And sure, when one person disagrees with someone or something and moves on it doesn't register, but when the picture goes viral and literally thousands of people stop to voice their displeasure and cause Jay Feely to be trending on twitter forcing him to issue an apology I think I'm ok with the use of the word uproar.
but again, for the pedantic among us who can't focus on their day to day life tasks while that word (uproar) is in this thread I re-post this sentence below - so pick a different word (fuss?) and maybe you can get past it, if not, keep causing an uproar:
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I am fine with uproar, especially since I got it from someone else's tweet. If you prefer outcry or furor, fuss or reaction then in your mind replace the word uproar with any one of them. I'm totally fine with replacing the word uproar and it not changing anything.
All good. I don't know where you stated the second part but honestly, I'm not reading through two pages of stupidity to find it. And I didn't mean that he should literally blame you, my point was just that the tone of a thread is often set by the OP...so if there's any question as to why people are using that term, its probably the connotation that comes with a word like "uproar."
I don't have anything to get past. I was just responding to someone who was clearly having issues getting past something. So lets get past this?
Someone once was showing off their gun to my niece trying to look tough....the gun went off and she died. Its not political for me, its personal. Every time I see someone cavalierly display their gun to try to look tough it hurts. The gun culture in this country is just fucked up. Jay Feeley is a douche.
damn, that’s awful. Hate hearing about stuff like that.
As I said in my previous posts, as a gun owner you have a duty to take it seriously by acting responsibly. This was very poor judgement to get some social media likes. Pretty embarrassing.
I own a gun. I’d never brandish it like this in front of my daughter, let alone take a picture of it and post it.
Anyone who was raised in a responsible household where good Â
judgement was exercised in regard to guns, should have a problem with the picture.
I was shooting by the age of 7, hunted small game in middle school and still hunt to this day. Guns are not toys, or props for goofy pictures.
Outraged, upset, steamed, I don't know, but identifying poor judgement, yes.
Many hunter take pictures with their guns alongside the animal harvested. Deer, turkey, etc.
I think the joke was dumb and I personally don't like handguns. But the gun wasn't loaded and if he wanted to attempt a funny picture with his daughter for her special occasion I really don't see the great harm.
If he was horsing around with a loaded weapon I would wholeheartedly agree.
Saw this thread yesterday but forgot to comment til now... Â
Personally I think it's stupid... but that's because I think the 'joke' is tired at this point.
I think someone else brought up a good point that was the first thing that came across my mind... especially as the father of two boys myself now.... is I wonder how the parent of the young man felt? I believe Feely said the two kids had been dating for about a year and so I'm guessing the parents may know each other... and perhaps in that case the kid's parents didn't have a problem with it... but all I can say is that if that picture was up there and that was MY boy in it... Feely's got a problem.
What would've been funny to me is if the kid had a handgun himself flashed behind his back in the photo.
Joking or not... I wouldn't like seeing my kid in a picture like that. I get the joke and all... but I don't think I'd find it funny if that was my kid. Wonder how Feely would feel if the young man's father took a picture with Feely's daughter and his son with a box of condoms? Or a gun?
Feel the need to say... I'm not 'outraged' or nothing about it... it's not a big deal to me in the sense that it's clearly a joke. Just not one I find particularly funny.
I'm just tired of seeing things get blown out of proportion because people don't think about intent. They basically make up intent to support a faux outrage.
It's pretty clear the majority of time to know what the intent is, but people either ignore it or blurt out the first thing that comes to their mind as a reaction.
is people doing stupid things for likes. I get what you are saying, but this really was a stupid decision for Feely. I get it was a joke, and harmless if unloaded (we have to take his word for that since we can’t see the butt of be gun or what’s chambered), but what’s its worth? At the very best he embarassed his family, he avoided the very worst, thankfully.
I expect this stuff on Barstool sports, where it’s all stupid nonsense, 1 mistake away from killing someone. Social media brings out the worst in much of society.
at least he was observing proper weapons handling Â
I ask this sincerely, mainly because I participate in almost no social media, and none where opinions are traded.
What constitutes outrage vs. just an opinion? When I hear "faux-outrage" it seems tantamount to "you are over reacting and there's no way you really feel that way." Seems myopic and controlling.
If someone is getting embroiled in a topic, spending hours or something battling(say me getting my shit all stirred arguing with Britt about Eli Manning), that seems to fit the bill. That is some for sure faux outrage.
If somebody on Twitter, or a newspaper writer, or on BBI makes a flippant comment or thinks an action is not real smart, is dangerous, or not funny, I just don't see that as being anywhere near outraged. I'm sure there is someone, somewhere making a stink over that picture who doesn't actually care, but I don't see the world at large that upset.
I think there likely is a very small minority of people who are legitimately "outraged" over the joke.
That being said, I do agree that the country is in desperate need of a culture change - where semi automatic firearms aren't treated so cavalierly. It starts with the small things.
Once we get a handle on our gun violence issue then maybe the gag photos with daddy threatening his baby girl's prom date with the pistol will be accepted a little more readily.
It's a joke. A joke made of being an overprotective dad and saying "keep your hands off my daughter". Obviously the kid had a sense of humor and by the grin on his face, he did not mind at all and took the picture and went on with his day. Keep up the good work.
Back in Halloween 2005 or so, the ex-girlfriend and I posed with a knife where the Scream killer was gonna stab her as a helpless nurse. When we took the picture, a real knife was held up above her chest (like how Drew Barrymore was killed in the movie), but the knife didn't even close. We were careful and she obviously did not mind but when it was brought up or the picture got around, her mom was so offended by it and my girlfriend didn't want to do the same picture the next year. (Only because she did not want to hear the same reaction from her mom). Same kind of joke...get it. "Ya wanna kill your wife/husband/girlfriend/boyfriend".
Everyone matters. I love every single person on this thread. I hope you all stay clean and out of trouble. And Feely can kiss my ass for missing those 3 FGs in Seattle in 2005.
when something makes the mainstream media it passes the test for faux outrage:
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What constitutes outrage vs. just an opinion? When I hear "faux-outrage" it seems tantamount to "you are over reacting and there's no way you really feel that way." Seems myopic and controlling.
I often see the argument about things just being a dissentive opinion, but when this picture is like the 4th story on the Today Show and there is a debate on whether or not it is appropriate, faux outrage is likely a fitting term. And it certainly does mean that people are overreacting, especially when there have been calls for Feely to have some sort of punishment.
when something makes the mainstream media it passes the test for faux outrage:
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What constitutes outrage vs. just an opinion? When I hear "faux-outrage" it seems tantamount to "you are over reacting and there's no way you really feel that way." Seems myopic and controlling.
I often see the argument about things just being a dissentive opinion, but when this picture is like the 4th story on the Today Show and there is a debate on whether or not it is appropriate, faux outrage is likely a fitting term. And it certainly does mean that people are overreacting, especially when there have been calls for Feely to have some sort of punishment.
I recognize that it garnered attention. I just watched the Today show clip and that coverage appeared balanced and they polled their audience -- the majority said it was a joke in good fun.
There were quotes of people who didn't think it was funny or in good taste.
I guess I just don't see a debate on whether it's appropriate as outrageous. If he got fired, or there was a protest in front of his house etc. I could see that as feigning outrage. That would seem extreme and I'd question if the reaction was genuine and warranted.
It's a fascinating topic -- again maybe because I'm not super-plugged into social media or other channels where I hear a lot of opinions, but I hear the term "outrage" now and again and don't see it in the reactions always.
Not doubting it happens -- hyperbole to help confirm beliefs is as old as mankind.
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Can't someone just be normally, flippantly, casually, momentarily critical of something?
Is it outrage at a four way stop and someone waves you ahead and let's their foot off the break at the same time, or when there's just a little bit of crushed up pretzel on the only open seat on the subway?
Must we either be silent or outraged? Can't we just be averagely, unoutrageosly upset!
Blame the OP. The precedent was set when he said it caused an uproar. Generally, uproars do not occur without outrage.
Is someone makes a comment in general about people being outraged, that doesnt necessarily point to you. Apparently there is outrage. Whether or not you fall into that category is entirely for you to decide, but that also has no bearing whatsoever on whether or not something exists.
Holy shit, this again.
I got the word uproar from NY Giants beat writer Ryan Dunleavy's tweet. And sure, when one person disagrees with someone or something and moves on it doesn't register, but when the picture goes viral and literally thousands of people stop to voice their displeasure and cause Jay Feely to be trending on twitter forcing him to issue an apology I think I'm ok with the use of the word uproar.
but again, for the pedantic among us who can't focus on their day to day life tasks while that word (uproar) is in this thread I re-post this sentence below - so pick a different word (fuss?) and maybe you can get past it, if not, keep causing an uproar:
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In comment 13925884 christian said:
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Can't someone just be normally, flippantly, casually, momentarily critical of something?
Is it outrage at a four way stop and someone waves you ahead and let's their foot off the break at the same time, or when there's just a little bit of crushed up pretzel on the only open seat on the subway?
Must we either be silent or outraged? Can't we just be averagely, unoutrageosly upset!
Blame the OP. The precedent was set when he said it caused an uproar. Generally, uproars do not occur without outrage.
Is someone makes a comment in general about people being outraged, that doesnt necessarily point to you. Apparently there is outrage. Whether or not you fall into that category is entirely for you to decide, but that also has no bearing whatsoever on whether or not something exists.
Holy shit, this again.
I got the word uproar from NY Giants beat writer Ryan Dunleavy's tweet. And sure, when one person disagrees with someone or something and moves on it doesn't register, but when the picture goes viral and literally thousands of people stop to voice their displeasure and cause Jay Feely to be trending on twitter forcing him to issue an apology I think I'm ok with the use of the word uproar.
but again, for the pedantic among us who can't focus on their day to day life tasks while that word (uproar) is in this thread I re-post this sentence below - so pick a different word (fuss?) and maybe you can get past it, if not, keep causing an uproar:
Quote:
I am fine with uproar, especially since I got it from someone else's tweet. If you prefer outcry or furor, fuss or reaction then in your mind replace the word uproar with any one of them. I'm totally fine with replacing the word uproar and it not changing anything.
All good. I don't know where you stated the second part but honestly, I'm not reading through two pages of stupidity to find it. And I didn't mean that he should literally blame you, my point was just that the tone of a thread is often set by the OP...so if there's any question as to why people are using that term, its probably the connotation that comes with a word like "uproar."
I don't have anything to get past. I was just responding to someone who was clearly having issues getting past something. So lets get past this?
As I said in my previous posts, as a gun owner you have a duty to take it seriously by acting responsibly. This was very poor judgement to get some social media likes. Pretty embarrassing.
I own a gun. I’d never brandish it like this in front of my daughter, let alone take a picture of it and post it.
I was shooting by the age of 7, hunted small game in middle school and still hunt to this day. Guns are not toys, or props for goofy pictures.
Outraged, upset, steamed, I don't know, but identifying poor judgement, yes.
I was shooting by the age of 7, hunted small game in middle school and still hunt to this day. Guns are not toys, or props for goofy pictures.
Outraged, upset, steamed, I don't know, but identifying poor judgement, yes.
Many hunter take pictures with their guns alongside the animal harvested. Deer, turkey, etc.
I think the joke was dumb and I personally don't like handguns. But the gun wasn't loaded and if he wanted to attempt a funny picture with his daughter for her special occasion I really don't see the great harm.
If he was horsing around with a loaded weapon I would wholeheartedly agree.
I think someone else brought up a good point that was the first thing that came across my mind... especially as the father of two boys myself now.... is I wonder how the parent of the young man felt? I believe Feely said the two kids had been dating for about a year and so I'm guessing the parents may know each other... and perhaps in that case the kid's parents didn't have a problem with it... but all I can say is that if that picture was up there and that was MY boy in it... Feely's got a problem.
What would've been funny to me is if the kid had a handgun himself flashed behind his back in the photo.
If people can't learn to separate intent from their outrage, there's going to be continued faux outrage for years to come.
Joking or not... I wouldn't like seeing my kid in a picture like that. I get the joke and all... but I don't think I'd find it funny if that was my kid. Wonder how Feely would feel if the young man's father took a picture with Feely's daughter and his son with a box of condoms? Or a gun?
Feel the need to say... I'm not 'outraged' or nothing about it... it's not a big deal to me in the sense that it's clearly a joke. Just not one I find particularly funny.
I'm just tired of seeing things get blown out of proportion because people don't think about intent. They basically make up intent to support a faux outrage.
It's pretty clear the majority of time to know what the intent is, but people either ignore it or blurt out the first thing that comes to their mind as a reaction.
It really in an unfortunate part of social media.
I expect this stuff on Barstool sports, where it’s all stupid nonsense, 1 mistake away from killing someone. Social media brings out the worst in much of society.
Treat every weapon as if it were loaded.
What constitutes outrage vs. just an opinion? When I hear "faux-outrage" it seems tantamount to "you are over reacting and there's no way you really feel that way." Seems myopic and controlling.
If someone is getting embroiled in a topic, spending hours or something battling(say me getting my shit all stirred arguing with Britt about Eli Manning), that seems to fit the bill. That is some for sure faux outrage.
If somebody on Twitter, or a newspaper writer, or on BBI makes a flippant comment or thinks an action is not real smart, is dangerous, or not funny, I just don't see that as being anywhere near outraged. I'm sure there is someone, somewhere making a stink over that picture who doesn't actually care, but I don't see the world at large that upset.
That being said, I do agree that the country is in desperate need of a culture change - where semi automatic firearms aren't treated so cavalierly. It starts with the small things.
Once we get a handle on our gun violence issue then maybe the gag photos with daddy threatening his baby girl's prom date with the pistol will be accepted a little more readily.
Back in Halloween 2005 or so, the ex-girlfriend and I posed with a knife where the Scream killer was gonna stab her as a helpless nurse. When we took the picture, a real knife was held up above her chest (like how Drew Barrymore was killed in the movie), but the knife didn't even close. We were careful and she obviously did not mind but when it was brought up or the picture got around, her mom was so offended by it and my girlfriend didn't want to do the same picture the next year. (Only because she did not want to hear the same reaction from her mom). Same kind of joke...get it. "Ya wanna kill your wife/husband/girlfriend/boyfriend".
Everyone matters. I love every single person on this thread. I hope you all stay clean and out of trouble. And Feely can kiss my ass for missing those 3 FGs in Seattle in 2005.
I often see the argument about things just being a dissentive opinion, but when this picture is like the 4th story on the Today Show and there is a debate on whether or not it is appropriate, faux outrage is likely a fitting term. And it certainly does mean that people are overreacting, especially when there have been calls for Feely to have some sort of punishment.
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What constitutes outrage vs. just an opinion? When I hear "faux-outrage" it seems tantamount to "you are over reacting and there's no way you really feel that way." Seems myopic and controlling.
I often see the argument about things just being a dissentive opinion, but when this picture is like the 4th story on the Today Show and there is a debate on whether or not it is appropriate, faux outrage is likely a fitting term. And it certainly does mean that people are overreacting, especially when there have been calls for Feely to have some sort of punishment.
I recognize that it garnered attention. I just watched the Today show clip and that coverage appeared balanced and they polled their audience -- the majority said it was a joke in good fun.
There were quotes of people who didn't think it was funny or in good taste.
I guess I just don't see a debate on whether it's appropriate as outrageous. If he got fired, or there was a protest in front of his house etc. I could see that as feigning outrage. That would seem extreme and I'd question if the reaction was genuine and warranted.
It's a fascinating topic -- again maybe because I'm not super-plugged into social media or other channels where I hear a lot of opinions, but I hear the term "outrage" now and again and don't see it in the reactions always.
Not doubting it happens -- hyperbole to help confirm beliefs is as old as mankind.