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NFT: Blue Jays (12-7) @ Yankees (10-9), Sunday Gleyber Ed.

RasputinPrime : 4/22/2018 1:17 pm
1. CF Aaron Hicks
2. RF Aaron Judge
3. SS Didi Gregorius
4. LF Giancarlo Stanton
5. DH Gary Sanchez
6. 1B Tyler Austin
7. 3B Miguel Andujar
8. 2B Gleyber Torres
9. CA Austin Romine

RHP Luis Severino
VS.
LHP Jaime Garcia

1. RF Curtis Granderson
2. LF Teoscar Hernandez
3. 1B Justin Smoak
4. 3B Yangervis Solarte
5. CA Russell Martin
6. DH Kendrys Morales
7. CF Kevin Pillar
8. 2B Devon Travis
9. SS Lourdes Gurriel Jr.

Wade optioned to make room for Gleybe2 Torre5.
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RE: Sawx lose again in Oakland.  
mfsd : 4/22/2018 6:57 pm : link
In comment 13925425 bceagle05 said:
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Nice work by the As cooling them off, 1 run on 6 hits for the Sox today. Price gave up a 3 run HR in the 8th to break a 1-1 tie
Another dubious review  
bceagle05 : 4/22/2018 7:00 pm : link
ends the Colorado/Chicago game. Runner ruled safe at the plate, then overturned - didn't think it was clear enough to change.
Good job by Oakland.  
Dave in Hoboken : 4/22/2018 7:06 pm : link
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bc  
arniefez : 4/22/2018 7:17 pm : link
I thought he was out in real time but there was nothing on that replay to overturn that call. MLB replay is a mess.
Yeah, Arenado reacted like he may have been out  
bceagle05 : 4/22/2018 7:26 pm : link
but I didn't see enough to overturn that one. Tough way to end a game.
RE: RE: Andujar  
Jay in Toronto : 4/22/2018 9:04 pm : link
In comment 13925300 section125 said:
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In comment 13925295 Jay in Toronto said:


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How the heck should his name be pronounced?

The accent on the 'du' doesn't sound right.




an-do-har - it is what it is. He would know how the family pronounces it.


Yes but I've heard where the stress accent is both ways
Silver lining to the Sonny Gray trade so far Mateo and Fowler are  
DennyInDenville : 4/23/2018 12:56 am : link
Struggling bigtime. Especially mateo.

And kaprellian still hasn't made it back into games yet I think.

silver lining to not getting Cole, Andujar looks like the real deal and we love Torres. Frazier prob wasn't gonna get us Cole, but we will need Frazier .

Gardy is quietly struggling at the dish but he's working counts and his Obp at .362 ish is very solid for now
RE: Silver lining to the Sonny Gray trade so far Mateo and Fowler are  
Ron from Ninerland : 4/23/2018 3:01 am : link
In comment 13925621 DennyInDenville said:
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Struggling bigtime. Especially mateo.

And kaprellian still hasn't made it back into games yet I think.

silver lining to not getting Cole, Andujar looks like the real deal and we love Torres. Frazier prob wasn't gonna get us Cole, but we will need Frazier .

Gardy is quietly struggling at the dish but he's working counts and his Obp at .362 ish is very solid for now
Has Fowler even made it back yet ? I can't find any stats on him.
RE: RE: RE: Andujar  
section125 : 4/23/2018 6:32 am : link
In comment 13925510 Jay in Toronto said:
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In comment 13925300 section125 said:


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In comment 13925295 Jay in Toronto said:


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How the heck should his name be pronounced?

The accent on the 'du' doesn't sound right.




an-do-har - it is what it is. He would know how the family pronounces it.



Yes but I've heard where the stress accent is both ways


Sounds strange to me too. Never heard the accent on the 2nd syllable, either but my Spanish is non existent.
RE: RE: Silver lining to the Sonny Gray trade so far Mateo and Fowler are  
Ace718 : 4/23/2018 6:57 am : link
In comment 13925634 Ron from Ninerland said:
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In comment 13925621 DennyInDenville said:


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Struggling bigtime. Especially mateo.

And kaprellian still hasn't made it back into games yet I think.

silver lining to not getting Cole, Andujar looks like the real deal and we love Torres. Frazier prob wasn't gonna get us Cole, but we will need Frazier .

Gardy is quietly struggling at the dish but he's working counts and his Obp at .362 ish is very solid for now

Has Fowler even made it back yet ? I can't find any stats on him.


Fowler lost out on the MLB spot during spring training but he's playing in AAA and doing well.
While i dont wish to think we got hosed on the trade  
Bill2 : 4/23/2018 9:41 am : link
I point out that we did and do need Gray until we develop starting pitchers.

The achilles heel of this team is starting pitching.

Keprelian was not better than Gray last year, this year and maybe next year.
RE: While i dont wish to think we got hosed on the trade  
Victor in CT : 4/23/2018 9:47 am : link
In comment 13925913 Bill2 said:
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I point out that we did and do need Gray until we develop starting pitchers.

The achilles heel of this team is starting pitching.

Keprelian was not better than Gray last year, this year and maybe next year.


the only difference is that Kaprelain is injured. You can't make that comparison. Gray has been horse shit since he got here, but he is physically able to play.
RE: While i dont wish to think we got hosed on the trade  
section125 : 4/23/2018 9:48 am : link
In comment 13925913 Bill2 said:
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I point out that we did and do need Gray until we develop starting pitchers.

The achilles heel of this team is starting pitching.

Keprelian was not better than Gray last year, this year and maybe next year.


Agree that Gray is a better pitcher right now. Gray has to buy into using and trusting his stuff. Stop the nibbling and get ahead. I don't know why he continues to be off the plate so much. He just needs to throw strikes and not be afraid to get hit. The walks are what kills him, not hits.
93-95 mph FB with movement; filthy breaking stuff and change. He has everything a great pitcher needs, but seems to lack trust in it.
could also be that Gray is one of those guys who can't handle  
Victor in CT : 4/23/2018 9:54 am : link
the expectation to win or NYC pressure or both.
Victor  
Bill2 : 4/23/2018 10:20 am : link
Yes we can make that comparison

Yes i acknowledge he was injured.

I said...operative word...NOW.

the point is that Gray is all we had or could have had as a SP last year and this year and may still be better next year.

I dont think he is good at all. I dont think he is a Number 3. Pitches like a 5 on a good playoff team

The comment is about the state of Yankee starting pitching. We all want to hold on to every prospect.

We cant. Or we hopa hopa this year and buy expensive next year.

Yeah Sheffield. Could be great. Would be a rookie.

NOW...for now Gray is what we have. I agree he is not good enough especially with CC and Tanaka being injury prone.

We agree now that i clarified?
RE: RE: Silver lining to the Sonny Gray trade so far Mateo and Fowler are  
DennyInDenville : 4/23/2018 10:36 am : link
In comment 13925634 Ron from Ninerland said:
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In comment 13925621 DennyInDenville said:


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Struggling bigtime. Especially mateo.

And kaprellian still hasn't made it back into games yet I think.

silver lining to not getting Cole, Andujar looks like the real deal and we love Torres. Frazier prob wasn't gonna get us Cole, but we will need Frazier .

Gardy is quietly struggling at the dish but he's working counts and his Obp at .362 ish is very solid for now

Has Fowler even made it back yet ? I can't find any stats on him.

Yes so far in 64 ABs he's OPSing in around .560
RE: Victor  
Victor in CT : 4/23/2018 10:41 am : link
In comment 13925999 Bill2 said:
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Yes we can make that comparison

Yes i acknowledge he was injured.

I said...operative word...NOW.

the point is that Gray is all we had or could have had as a SP last year and this year and may still be better next year.

I dont think he is good at all. I dont think he is a Number 3. Pitches like a 5 on a good playoff team

The comment is about the state of Yankee starting pitching. We all want to hold on to every prospect.

We cant. Or we hopa hopa this year and buy expensive next year.

Yeah Sheffield. Could be great. Would be a rookie.

NOW...for now Gray is what we have. I agree he is not good enough especially with CC and Tanaka being injury prone.

We agree now that i clarified?


crystal clear thanks
Victor  
Bill2 : 4/23/2018 12:09 pm : link
In retrospect, sounds like we were in violent agreement.

Take care
RE: Victor  
Victor in CT : 4/23/2018 12:33 pm : link
In comment 13926354 Bill2 said:
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In retrospect, sounds like we were in violent agreement.

Take care


Yep. My dislike of Gray must be seeping into my writing :-)
He makes me think of  
Bill2 : 4/23/2018 12:54 pm : link
Irabu and Vasquez
Living in nor cal  
mitch300 : 4/23/2018 1:01 pm : link
I’m surprised how Gray is pitching. I hope it’s not Ed Whitson part duex. He performed a lot better on the A’s.
thus far he is more Whitson and Rogers to me.  
Victor in CT : 4/23/2018 1:14 pm : link
we have to hope he snaps out of it somehow. Because section125 and others are right that he seems to have good stuff but is afraid to challenge and go with it. Nibbles til your ready to pull your hair out.
Just wanna say thank goodness Montgomery blossomed last year  
DennyInDenville : 4/23/2018 1:20 pm : link
Kind of unexpected and he's really helping us bridge the gap. Sevy is a super Ace so that also helps.

Gray really needs to step up and do his part. Throw strikes and attack always
Notable that Boone had Sevy pitch the 7th yesterday  
mfsd : 4/23/2018 1:36 pm : link
and got up to 112 pitches. The bullpen has settled a bit (turns out there was something wrong with Kahnle) - that weekend rainout in Detroit probably helped a lot.

But Yanks are now 4 games into a stretch of 18 straight game days...bullpen will be taxed again unless a starter not named Severino can figure out how to be consistent.
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