Browns- josh allen
Giants- Sam Darnold
Jets- josh Rosen
Browns- Barkley over Chubb although Chubb is tempting to pair with Myles garret and have book ends for the next decade
Browns-Allen
Giants-Rosen (Future HOF per Mora)
Jets-Darnold
Browns-Barkley
My dream scenario however would be to trade with the Browns for the 4th pick and 33 and 35...still get Rosen at 4 and start day 2 with the first 3 picks.
Look at the trade value chart and then consider it to be a non-factor when someone wants their franchise QB. Most people want the Bills' 2019 1st round choice or no deal?? This lets them off the hook after this draft. It is realistic to ask for more. DG won't do that to his buddy in Buffalo.
The only team i see that wants it bad enough to pay Gettlemans price is Buffalo, and it might require buffalo to have a higher pick to offer. I think you have to blow Gettleman away with an offer to trade this pick.
From what I heard the overall consensus seems to be that the #2 pick will be a QB whether NYG takes the pick or trades it. No one I've talked with buys the Barkley @2 talk. Even after I pushed back w/ DG and Shurmurs history of 1st round RBs. The only other name @2 was Chubb.
A few weeks ago I said basically the same thing and since then I haven't had a chance to really pry.. I've just been busy. I plan to reach out again Tuesday night and Wednesday morning. Maybe we get something but I can't stress this enough, Gettleman has been in complete control of the information gathered.. I know I said that before but that was made very clear.
Prediction - Jets take Darnold stating that's who they were targeting all along. I really believe (and fear) that Cleveland has been targeting Mayfield which is why they traded for Tyrod Taylor - similar style - to help him along.
2) Browns-Barkley
3) Jets-Rosen
4) Bills-Mayfield
We get Cleveland's two 2nd round picks & Buffalo's entire 2018 draft (nothing in 2019)
Giants end up with picks 12, 22, 33, 34, 35, 53, 56, 65, 66, 69, 96, 108, 121, 139, 166, & 187
Both lines would be fortified with a big influx of talent. We'd have the ammo to trade back up a few times if needed. We could address all areas.
2) Browns-Barkley
3) Jets-Rosen
4) Bills-Mayfield
We get Cleveland's two 2nd round picks & Buffalo's entire 2018 draft (nothing in 2019)
Giants end up with picks 12, 22, 33, 34, 35, 53, 56, 65, 66, 69, 96, 108, 121, 139, 166, & 187
Both lines would be fortified with a big influx of talent. We'd have the ammo to trade back up a few times if needed. We could address all areas.
that would be quite a haul
2) Browns-Barkley
3) Jets-Rosen
4) Bills-Mayfield
We get Cleveland's two 2nd round picks & Buffalo's entire 2018 draft (nothing in 2019)
Giants end up with picks 12, 22, 33, 34, 35, 53, 56, 65, 66, 69, 96, 108, 121, 139, 166, & 187
Both lines would be fortified with a big influx of talent. We'd have the ammo to trade back up a few times if needed. We could address all areas.
If this was the case I hope we would move up with those third rounders into round two to get some of our targets. Hard having room for 16 rookies
Giants- Sam Darnold
Jets- josh Rosen
Browns- Barkley over Chubb although Chubb is tempting to pair with Myles garret and have book ends for the next decade
2) Browns-Barkley
3) Jets-Rosen
4) Bills-Mayfield
We get Cleveland's two 2nd round picks & Buffalo's entire 2018 draft (nothing in 2019)
Giants end up with picks 12, 22, 33, 34, 35, 53, 56, 65, 66, 69, 96, 108, 121, 139, 166, & 187
Both lines would be fortified with a big influx of talent. We'd have the ammo to trade back up a few times if needed. We could address all areas.
LOL
Giants: Barkley
Jets: Mayfield
Cleveland: Chubb
2) Browns-Barkley
3) Jets-Rosen
4) Bills-Mayfield
We get Cleveland's two 2nd round picks & Buffalo's entire 2018 draft (nothing in 2019)
Giants end up with picks 12, 22, 33, 34, 35, 53, 56, 65, 66, 69, 96, 108, 121, 139, 166, & 187
Both lines would be fortified with a big influx of talent. We'd have the ammo to trade back up a few times if needed. We could address all areas.
I like this. DG could start releasing everybody but about 10 guys on the current roster on Sunday evening...
Giants-Rosen (Future HOF per Mora)
Jets-Darnold
Browns-Barkley
My dream scenario however would be to trade with the Browns for the 4th pick and 33 and 35...still get Rosen at 4 and start day 2 with the first 3 picks.
2) Browns-Barkley
3) Jets-Rosen
4) Bills-Mayfield
We get Cleveland's two 2nd round picks & Buffalo's entire 2018 draft (nothing in 2019)
Giants end up with picks 12, 22, 33, 34, 35, 53, 56, 65, 66, 69, 96, 108, 121, 139, 166, & 187
Both lines would be fortified with a big influx of talent. We'd have the ammo to trade back up a few times if needed. We could address all areas.
Not realistic
NYG- Barkley
NYJ- Mayfield
CLE- Chubb
Exactly. People love to treat the NFL draft like a fantasy football draft. It doesn't work that way.
It'll be simple:
Clev - Darnold
NYG - Barkley
NYJ - Mayfield
Clev - Chubb
Giants: Barkley
Jets: Mayfield
Cleveland: Chubb
That's my guess too.
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when the Giants don't trade down.
Exactly. People love to treat the NFL draft like a fantasy football draft. It doesn't work that way.
It'll be simple:
Clev - Darnold
NYG - Barkley
NYJ - Mayfield
Clev - Chubb
DG has never traded down...
2. Giants Darnold
3. Jets Mayfield
4. Cleveland. Barkley
2. NY Giants: Rosen
3. NY Jets: Mayfield
4. Cleveland: Chubb
The alternative
1. Allen
2. Darnold
3. Rosen
4. Barkley
The Wild.
1. Allen
2. Barkley
3. Darnold
4. Trade will Bills: Rosen
NYG Trade with Cleveland ( Clev has picks 1&2 )
1. Darnold
2. Barkley
3. Mayfield
4. NYG Rosen
Or
1. Darnold
2. Barkley
3. Rosen
4. NYG Chubb
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1) Browns-Darnold
2) Browns-Barkley
3) Jets-Rosen
4) Bills-Mayfield
We get Cleveland's two 2nd round picks & Buffalo's entire 2018 draft (nothing in 2019)
Giants end up with picks 12, 22, 33, 34, 35, 53, 56, 65, 66, 69, 96, 108, 121, 139, 166, & 187
Both lines would be fortified with a big influx of talent. We'd have the ammo to trade back up a few times if needed. We could address all areas.
If this was the case I hope we would move up with those third rounders into round two to get some of our targets. Hard having room for 16 rookies
Our roster is in shambles. We have plenty of room for 16 rookies.
2) Browns-Barkley
3) Jets-Rosen
4) Bills-Mayfield
We get Cleveland's two 2nd round picks & Buffalo's entire 2018 draft (nothing in 2019)
Giants end up with picks 12, 22, 33, 34, 35, 53, 56, 65, 66, 69, 96, 108, 121, 139, 166, & 187
Both lines would be fortified with a big influx of talent. We'd have the ammo to trade back up a few times if needed. We could address all areas.
I don't think you have the room to sign 16 draftees. Nice thought though.
2)Browns- Barkley
3)Jets- Mayfield
4)Giants- Rosen
5)Bills- Allen
20)Giants- Isaiah Wynn - DG trades back into the First Round
Giants Barkley
Jets Mayfield
Miami Rosen
2. Giants - Barkley
3. Jets - Rosen
3. Browns - Chubb
Giants- Darnold
Jets- Mayfield
Browns- Allen
3 Barkley
4 Saquon
Jets: Mayfield
Browns: Barkley
Cleveland - Barkley
Jets - Baker
Giants - Nelson
Giants: Barkley
Jets: Mayfield
Cleveland: Chubb
I think you nailed it and that's how I see it going as well.
NYJ/Rosen
CLE/Chubb
3 Barkley
4 Saquon
Don't be daft, you can't pick Barkley multiple times. Come on man!
1. Barkley
2. Picture of Barkley in Giants Hoodie
3. Barkley core work out video
4. Collectible Barkley Penn State jersey
2. CLE - Darnold (trade with Giants for #4, #33 , #35)
3. NYJ - Mayfield/Rosen
4. NYG - Rosen/Chubb
33. NYG - Williams/Wynn/Ragnow
34. NYG - Williams/Wynn/Ragnow
35. NYG - Michel
2. Bills (from Giants): Sam Darnold
3. Jets: Josh Rosen
4. Browns: Baker Mayfield
2. CLE - Darnold (trade with Giants for #4, #33 , #35)
3. NYJ - Mayfield/Rosen
4. NYG - Rosen/Chubb
33. NYG - Williams/Wynn/Ragnow
34. NYG - Williams/Wynn/Ragnow
35. NYG - Michel
I love this if they get rosen at 4 and get extra picks.. though I don't think Rosen gets past the Jets.
2. CLE - Darnold (trade with Giants for #4, #33 , #35)
3. NYJ - Mayfield/Rosen
4. NYG - Rosen/Chubb
33. NYG - Williams/Wynn/Ragnow
34. NYG - Williams/Wynn/Ragnow
35. NYG - Michel
I love this if they get rosen at 4 and get extra picks.. though I don't think Rosen gets past the Jets.
2. Giants - Barkley
3. Jets - Darnold
and just a guess.
4 Browns - trade down to whoever wants Rosen the most.
Thanks for sharing. Is that true even if the Giants stay put at #2?
2) Browns-Barkley
3) Jets-Rosen
4) Bills-Mayfield
We get Cleveland's two 2nd round picks & Buffalo's entire 2018 draft (nothing in 2019)
Giants end up with picks 12, 22, 33, 34, 35, 53, 56, 65, 66, 69, 96, 108, 121, 139, 166, & 187
Both lines would be fortified with a big influx of talent. We'd have the ammo to trade back up a few times if needed. We could address all areas.
Sign me up.
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when the Giants don't trade down.
Exactly. People love to treat the NFL draft like a fantasy football draft. It doesn't work that way.
It'll be simple:
Clev - Darnold
NYG - Barkley
NYJ - Mayfield
Clev - Chubb
DG has never traded down...
All GMs have never traded down, until they did their first time.
NYJ - Mayfield
Cle - Barkley
I have a gut feeling the Giants would take Darnold, but none of the other QBs at 2. But what do I know
2)Barkley
3)Rosen
4)Chubb
Could you elaborate a bit? Are you saying this with the Giants still at 2? God I hope so
A few weeks ago I said basically the same thing and since then I haven't had a chance to really pry.. I've just been busy. I plan to reach out again Tuesday night and Wednesday morning. Maybe we get something but I can't stress this enough, Gettleman has been in complete control of the information gathered.. I know I said that before but that was made very clear.
Want?
1) Darnold - 2) Barkley - 3) Rosen - 4) Nelson
Prediction - Jets take Darnold stating that's who they were targeting all along. I really believe (and fear) that Cleveland has been targeting Mayfield which is why they traded for Tyrod Taylor - similar style - to help him along.
Barkley is the gem of the draft.
Jets Mayfield
Broncos Rosen
Giants Barkley