A source he "trusts" who is "very well-connected" and "very often right" told MMQB's Peter King the Browns won't take Wyoming QB Josh Allen with the No. 1 overall pick.
Allen isn't accurate enough, which may be improveable. More alarming is he doesn't throw with great timing or aniticipation consistenly. I'm not sure that's a teachable trait.
It was always going to be Darnold going #1. It should be Rosen but there are legit red flags with him and 'that guy' never goes #1.
according to the Cleveland beat reporters and Haslam was wowed by Darnold at his pro day. It’s still the same decision facing Gettleman since the Combine: Barkley - Chubb - Rosen. Don’t see any trade down happening.
important quality in quarterback play. There are two highly accurate qb's in this class - Rosen and Mayfield. Rosen had two concussions - a big red flag. And Mayfield is short and maybe a little crazy. Allen has an incredible arm but isn't accurate. That leaves Sam Darnold as the #1 qb by default.
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important quality in quarterback play. There are two highly accurate qb's in this class - Rosen and Mayfield. Rosen had two concussions - a big red flag. And Mayfield is short and maybe a little crazy. Allen has an incredible arm but isn't accurate. That leaves Sam Darnold as the #1 qb by default.
Yes, he's gets the trophy. But then he fumbled it.
important quality in quarterback play. There are two highly accurate qb's in this class - Rosen and Mayfield. Rosen had two concussions - a big red flag. And Mayfield is short and maybe a little crazy. Allen has an incredible arm but isn't accurate. That leaves Sam Darnold as the #1 qb by default.
Yes, he's gets the trophy. But then he fumbled it.
Coming to fruition, though I remain skeptical of anything that is reported in advance of the draft. Not that this is any great shock, as many people predicted Darnold even when Allen and Mayfield were being floated around.
Hopefully Part 2 comes true, and the Giants pick Rosen over Barkley. I do not want to see Rosen tossing dimes for other teams.
Yeah, if a great arm is all you need then the Jeff George's of the football world would all be in the Hall of Fame. It takes more than just a great arm to make it in the NFL.
Take the trade down to 4 with the Browns for the top two second rounders, there are plenty of good running backs to add, you can get Chubb at 4, and have the first three second round picks, that should get us our running back, and at least 1 offensive lineman. The other would be either another offensive lineman, a corner, or a wideout.
Could trade back again with Buffalo and probably get the two first rounders and a first rounder next season. Then you could target Rudolf or Jackson at 12, if they like either.
Into the Josh Allen rumors. I could see if the rumors were Rosen, but not Allen. I think Darnold will be the pick and then it will get interesting for the giants. I have a feeling with Darnold off the board that Gettleman will listen to some trade offers, but nothing to move him and we will take Barkley.
But I'd be silly to dismiss the possibility that we are saying Barkley, Barkley, Barkley to get the Browns to pick Darnold, and if that doesn't happen that Barkley really is his guy because at that point what does it really matter if everyone knows he loves Barkley?
like all the early mocks were Darbold to the Browns Rosen to the Giants. It would amusing if that’s what occurs after all the talk about Barkley, Allen, trade downs etc this year. If it happens it definitely shows the media has no clue. Ralph V was recently insinuating Rosen to the Giants. As I recal he has a good track record on guessing the Giants pick.
others have said, this is what everyone thought all along. The Browns have had no QB stability for decades. Allen is too risky. He's way too inaccurate, and as someone else said, doesn't throw with anticipation. He also has own pretty serious injury history. Darnold is the only logical choice for the Browns.
I still think the Giants will draft Barkley at #2, but a trade down is certainly more likely if Darnold is gone. I'd take #33 and #35 to trade down. At #4, the Giants could still draft Chubb, Nelson, or probably Rosen, and would have the first three picks in the second round.
I hope the giants pick Rosen best QB in the draft imo.
Seriously. If Josh Rosen was named Brock Thorncrusher and he was from Odessa, Texas he would be the consensus #1 QB of the draft - if not decade.
If he wasn’t an @ss, if he was a dedicated hard worker (Mora suggests no), if he wasn’t fragile .... I would be right there with you hoping Brock was the pick. :)
King say a few weeks ago that Allen was #1? I can't wait till Thursday... everyone is just throwing darts
he did, and since Dorsey has come out and refuted. There has been a lot of backlash from fans in response to the idea and this sounds to me like it may be coming from Dorsey himself --squashing the rumor once and for all.
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These guys are worse than the weathermen with their predictions.
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Being a journalist or weatherman has to be the easiest Jon in the eorld, just make up inside source fake news or say there's a 50% chance of rain and take a nap.
More fast, Roethlisberg strong,cannon arm, wonderlic genius, giant hands, strong work ethic farm kid, motivated chip on his shoulder rejected by every major program we for the Giants to pick!
weathermen get it right more often than not. much more often than not. For every 10 days they nail right they get maybe one day off a little bit and then the typical response is that they are always wrong.
They aren't wrong that often at all. Matter of fact they are right on the money just about all the tine.
the safer pick at QB. I think I'd be surprised if it wasn't Darnold at this point. Although, I think Rosen is going to the best of the bunch, he also carries more risk than Darnold. Been saying it all along, Rosen is the best arm talent and football IQ of the bunch. If the Giants pass on Rosen, I'd be surprised if the Jets did as well.
thought the Browns were ever going to use the #1 on Allen. They may still like him, and maybe when take him at #4, but there's never been any indication that any of the other teams value Allen over both Rosen and Darnold.
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It was always going to be Darnold going #1. It should be Rosen but there are legit red flags with him and 'that guy' never goes #1.
And BBI will implode if Rosen is The Chosen over Sammy "DollHands" Darnold.
...Josh Rosen #2 to the Giants.
It has been there for months staring us straight in the face.
And Josh Allen dropping would be no surprise either!
Yes, he's gets the trophy. But then he fumbled it.
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important quality in quarterback play. There are two highly accurate qb's in this class - Rosen and Mayfield. Rosen had two concussions - a big red flag. And Mayfield is short and maybe a little crazy. Allen has an incredible arm but isn't accurate. That leaves Sam Darnold as the #1 qb by default.
Yes, he's gets the trophy. But then he fumbled it.
It’s those pesky doll sized hands. :)
Barkley at #2.
Chubb or Nelson after slight trade down.
Hopefully Part 2 comes true, and the Giants pick Rosen over Barkley. I do not want to see Rosen tossing dimes for other teams.
...Josh Rosen #2 to the Giants.
It has been there for months staring us straight in the face.
And Josh Allen dropping would be no surprise either!
Yes. That is exactly what I think. Darnold 1, Rosen 2
He was right. He was just 10 years off with the date.
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Browns take Barkley at #1
And BBI will implode if Rosen is The Chosen over Sammy "DollHands" Darnold.
You've participated in enough of these BBI draft threads to know that BBI is going to implode no matter which the Giants choose ;>)
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Browns take Barkley at #1
And BBI will implode if Rosen is The Chosen over Sammy "DollHands" Darnold.
You've participated in enough of these BBI draft threads to know that BBI is going to implode no matter which the Giants choose ;>)
No doubt. I just glad the old hamster retired. Pray for the new hamster.
If the Browns do that they're insane. Barkley will be there at 4.
These guys are worse than the weathermen with their predictions.
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really come around to believing Barkley is going 1 to the Browns. It seems ridiculous but I now really believe it.
If the Browns do that they're insane. Barkley will be there at 4.
So you would say the Giants go QB regardless of Browns pick? Assuming no trade down. That’s what I would like, I’d love Rosen in blue.
Yeah, now that you mention it, I think he did.
LOL
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A source he "trusts" who is "very well-connected" and "very often right" told MMQB's Peter King the Giants will NOT bring Tom Coughlin back
He was right. He was just 10 years off with the date.
dorgan? Holy shit!
I still think the Giants will draft Barkley at #2, but a trade down is certainly more likely if Darnold is gone. I'd take #33 and #35 to trade down. At #4, the Giants could still draft Chubb, Nelson, or probably Rosen, and would have the first three picks in the second round.
Seriously. If Josh Rosen was named Brock Thorncrusher and he was from Odessa, Texas he would be the consensus #1 QB of the draft - if not decade.
If they like Allen, I think they take Barkley or Chubb #1, with the likelihood being that Allen will still be there at 4.
Barkley or Chubb or trade down.
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I hope the giants pick Rosen best QB in the draft imo.
Seriously. If Josh Rosen was named Brock Thorncrusher and he was from Odessa, Texas he would be the consensus #1 QB of the draft - if not decade.
If he wasn’t an @ss, if he was a dedicated hard worker (Mora suggests no), if he wasn’t fragile .... I would be right there with you hoping Brock was the pick. :)
These guys are worse than the weathermen with their predictions.
I
Being a journalist or weatherman has to be the easiest Jon in the eorld, just make up inside source fake news or say there's a 50% chance of rain and take a nap.
Or Barkley.
As they should. Don't force anything, even the QB.
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I hope the giants pick Rosen best QB in the draft imo.
Seriously. If Josh Rosen was named Brock Thorncrusher and he was from Odessa, Texas he would be the consensus #1 QB of the draft - if not decade.
WTF does his name have to do with anything? I think most peoples concerns with Rosen are his injury history.
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King say a few weeks ago that Allen was #1? I can't wait till Thursday... everyone is just throwing darts
Yeah, now that you mention it, I think he did.
LOL
They all did!
They aren't wrong that often at all. Matter of fact they are right on the money just about all the tine.
TBF, that is an awesome name
Darnold has been the guy all along.. never heard any different.