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Peter King: Browns won't take Josh Allen at 1

CromartiesKid21 : 4/23/2018 7:52 am
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A source he "trusts" who is "very well-connected" and "very often right" told MMQB's Peter King the Browns won't take Wyoming QB Josh Allen with the No. 1 overall pick.
Tony Pauline adds  
jeff57 : 4/23/2018 7:57 am : link
Recent chatter is that thereís a swell of support for Darnold in the Browns war room.
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I'm failrly confident  
UberAlias : 4/23/2018 7:58 am : link
This is coming from Dorsey directly.
There you go  
DonnieD89 : 4/23/2018 8:00 am : link
It's now down to Barkly, Rosen or trade down.
They are going Darnold  
ZogZerg : 4/23/2018 8:06 am : link
That is the "safest" pick and their fans can get behind it.
my prediction  
giantfan2000 : 4/23/2018 8:07 am : link
Browns take Barkley at #1


according to Mayock...  
Torrag : 4/23/2018 8:09 am : link
Allen isn't accurate enough, which may be improveable. More alarming is he doesn't throw with great timing or aniticipation consistenly. I'm not sure that's a teachable trait.

It was always going to be Darnold going #1. It should be Rosen but there are legit red flags with him and 'that guy' never goes #1.
RE: my prediction  
Diver_Down : 4/23/2018 8:09 am : link
In comment 13925729 giantfan2000 said:
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Browns take Barkley at #1



And BBI will implode if Rosen is The Chosen over Sammy "DollHands" Darnold.
Darnold #1 to the Browns...  
M.S. : 4/23/2018 8:13 am : link

...Josh Rosen #2 to the Giants.

It has been there for months staring us straight in the face.

And Josh Allen dropping would be no surprise either!
No surprise itís been Darnold all along...  
GFAN52 : 4/23/2018 8:18 am : link
according to the Cleveland beat reporters and Haslam was wowed by Darnold at his pro day. Itís still the same decision facing Gettleman since the Combine: Barkley - Chubb - Rosen. Donít see any trade down happening.
Good  
cokeduplt : 4/23/2018 8:27 am : link
I hope the giants pick Rosen best QB in the draft imo.
This is a funny group of quarterbacks. Accuracy is the most  
Ira : 4/23/2018 8:33 am : link
important quality in quarterback play. There are two highly accurate qb's in this class - Rosen and Mayfield. Rosen had two concussions - a big red flag. And Mayfield is short and maybe a little crazy. Allen has an incredible arm but isn't accurate. That leaves Sam Darnold as the #1 qb by default.
RE: This is a funny group of quarterbacks. Accuracy is the most  
jeff57 : 4/23/2018 8:36 am : link
In comment 13925760 Ira said:
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important quality in quarterback play. There are two highly accurate qb's in this class - Rosen and Mayfield. Rosen had two concussions - a big red flag. And Mayfield is short and maybe a little crazy. Allen has an incredible arm but isn't accurate. That leaves Sam Darnold as the #1 qb by default.


Yes, he's gets the trophy. But then he fumbled it.
I have wanted to believe  
joeinpa : 4/23/2018 8:36 am : link
The Allen hype for the Browns. But like so many here I like to believe the rumors that support my narrative.
RE: RE: This is a funny group of quarterbacks. Accuracy is the most  
GFAN52 : 4/23/2018 8:38 am : link
In comment 13925769 jeff57 said:
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In comment 13925760 Ira said:


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important quality in quarterback play. There are two highly accurate qb's in this class - Rosen and Mayfield. Rosen had two concussions - a big red flag. And Mayfield is short and maybe a little crazy. Allen has an incredible arm but isn't accurate. That leaves Sam Darnold as the #1 qb by default.



Yes, he's gets the trophy. But then he fumbled it.


Itís those pesky doll sized hands. :)
It was probably always going to be Darnold...  
Chris684 : 4/23/2018 8:42 am : link
So as has always been the most likely options.

Barkley at #2.

Chubb or Nelson after slight trade down.
If Darnold is gone  
JoeyBigBlue : 4/23/2018 8:43 am : link
Iím all in on Barkley. I donít trust any of the other QBs enough to risk a number 2 overall pick on them.
Well, part one of Colin's Prediction Seems to Be...  
Giants34 : 4/23/2018 8:45 am : link
Coming to fruition, though I remain skeptical of anything that is reported in advance of the draft. Not that this is any great shock, as many people predicted Darnold even when Allen and Mayfield were being floated around.

Hopefully Part 2 comes true, and the Giants pick Rosen over Barkley. I do not want to see Rosen tossing dimes for other teams.
RE: Darnold #1 to the Browns...  
firedbytheboss : 4/23/2018 8:45 am : link
In comment 13925735 M.S. said:
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...Josh Rosen #2 to the Giants.

It has been there for months staring us straight in the face.

And Josh Allen dropping would be no surprise either!


Yes. That is exactly what I think. Darnold 1, Rosen 2
Or, harken back to the end of 2006 season:  
Big Blue '56 : 4/23/2018 8:46 am : link
A source he "trusts" who is "very well-connected" and "very often right" told MMQB's Peter King the Giants will NOT bring Tom Coughlin back
Take Barkley then  
Sean : 4/23/2018 8:52 am : link
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Allen has an incredible arm but isn't accurate.  
Gman11 : 4/23/2018 8:52 am : link
Yeah, if a great arm is all you need then the Jeff George's of the football world would all be in the Hall of Fame. It takes more than just a great arm to make it in the NFL.
RE: Or, harken back to the end of 2006 season:  
dorgan : 4/23/2018 8:54 am : link
In comment 13925790 Big Blue '56 said:
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A source he "trusts" who is "very well-connected" and "very often right" told MMQB's Peter King the Giants will NOT bring Tom Coughlin back



He was right. He was just 10 years off with the date.
RE: RE: my prediction  
Jim in Tampa : 4/23/2018 8:54 am : link
In comment 13925733 Diver_Down said:
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Browns take Barkley at #1





And BBI will implode if Rosen is The Chosen over Sammy "DollHands" Darnold.


You've participated in enough of these BBI draft threads to know that BBI is going to implode no matter which the Giants choose ;>)
RE: RE: RE: my prediction  
Diver_Down : 4/23/2018 8:56 am : link
In comment 13925806 Jim in Tampa said:
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In comment 13925733 Diver_Down said:


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In comment 13925729 giantfan2000 said:


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Browns take Barkley at #1





And BBI will implode if Rosen is The Chosen over Sammy "DollHands" Darnold.



You've participated in enough of these BBI draft threads to know that BBI is going to implode no matter which the Giants choose ;>)


No doubt. I just glad the old hamster retired. Pray for the new hamster.
I have  
mattyblue : 4/23/2018 8:57 am : link
really come around to believing Barkley is going 1 to the Browns. It seems ridiculous but I now really believe it.
I would  
PaulN : 4/23/2018 8:57 am : link
Take the trade down to 4 with the Browns for the top two second rounders, there are plenty of good running backs to add, you can get Chubb at 4, and have the first three second round picks, that should get us our running back, and at least 1 offensive lineman. The other would be either another offensive lineman, a corner, or a wideout.
You also  
PaulN : 4/23/2018 9:00 am : link
Could trade back again with Buffalo and probably get the two first rounders and a first rounder next season. Then you could target Rudolf or Jackson at 12, if they like either.
I never bought  
TrueBlue56 : 4/23/2018 9:00 am : link
Into the Josh Allen rumors. I could see if the rumors were Rosen, but not Allen. I think Darnold will be the pick and then it will get interesting for the giants. I have a feeling with Darnold off the board that Gettleman will listen to some trade offers, but nothing to move him and we will take Barkley.
RE: I have  
FStubbs : 4/23/2018 9:10 am : link
In comment 13925810 mattyblue said:
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really come around to believing Barkley is going 1 to the Browns. It seems ridiculous but I now really believe it.


If the Browns do that they're insane. Barkley will be there at 4.
Didn't King say the Browns were without a doubt  
Tom from LI : 4/23/2018 9:12 am : link
taking Allen like a week or two ago?


These guys are worse than the weathermen with their predictions.
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I Hope We Take Rosen at #2  
Giants34 : 4/23/2018 9:12 am : link
But I'd be silly to dismiss the possibility that we are saying Barkley, Barkley, Barkley to get the Browns to pick Darnold, and if that doesn't happen that Barkley really is his guy because at that point what does it really matter if everyone knows he loves Barkley?
I'm sorry  
Giants34 : 4/23/2018 9:13 am : link
To get the Browns to pick Barkley so we can pick Darnold
RE: RE: I have  
mattyblue : 4/23/2018 9:20 am : link
In comment 13925845 FStubbs said:
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really come around to believing Barkley is going 1 to the Browns. It seems ridiculous but I now really believe it.



If the Browns do that they're insane. Barkley will be there at 4.


So you would say the Giants go QB regardless of Browns pick? Assuming no trade down. Thatís what I would like, Iíd love Rosen in blue.
Didn't  
GiantsRage2007 : 4/23/2018 9:21 am : link
King say a few weeks ago that Allen was #1? I can't wait till Thursday... everyone is just throwing darts
It seemed  
mattyblue : 4/23/2018 9:23 am : link
like all the early mocks were Darbold to the Browns Rosen to the Giants. It would amusing if thatís what occurs after all the talk about Barkley, Allen, trade downs etc this year. If it happens it definitely shows the media has no clue. Ralph V was recently insinuating Rosen to the Giants. As I recal he has a good track record on guessing the Giants pick.
RE: Didn't  
ZogZerg : 4/23/2018 9:25 am : link
In comment 13925871 GiantsRage2007 said:
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King say a few weeks ago that Allen was #1? I can't wait till Thursday... everyone is just throwing darts


Yeah, now that you mention it, I think he did.
LOL
RE: RE: Or, harken back to the end of 2006 season:  
Mr. Bungle : 4/23/2018 9:29 am : link
In comment 13925805 dorgan said:
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In comment 13925790 Big Blue '56 said:


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A source he "trusts" who is "very well-connected" and "very often right" told MMQB's Peter King the Giants will NOT bring Tom Coughlin back




He was right. He was just 10 years off with the date.

dorgan? Holy shit!
As  
AcidTest : 4/23/2018 9:30 am : link
others have said, this is what everyone thought all along. The Browns have had no QB stability for decades. Allen is too risky. He's way too inaccurate, and as someone else said, doesn't throw with anticipation. He also has own pretty serious injury history. Darnold is the only logical choice for the Browns.

I still think the Giants will draft Barkley at #2, but a trade down is certainly more likely if Darnold is gone. I'd take #33 and #35 to trade down. At #4, the Giants could still draft Chubb, Nelson, or probably Rosen, and would have the first three picks in the second round.
RE: Good  
Justlurking : 4/23/2018 9:30 am : link
In comment 13925751 cokeduplt said:
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I hope the giants pick Rosen best QB in the draft imo.


Seriously. If Josh Rosen was named Brock Thorncrusher and he was from Odessa, Texas he would be the consensus #1 QB of the draft - if not decade.
Mayock  
GeoMan999 : 4/23/2018 9:57 am : link
Along with Mayock I am concerned about Rosenís injury history, his body type, and what it could mean in the NFL.
Didn't Peter King cite a source who  
Section331 : 4/23/2018 10:02 am : link
was close to the Browns and very trustworthy just a couple of weeks ago, saying that the Browns will take Allen #1?

If they like Allen, I think they take Barkley or Chubb #1, with the likelihood being that Allen will still be there at 4.
Rosen blows  
NNJ Tom : 4/23/2018 10:03 am : link
He will be a bust.

Barkley or Chubb or trade down.
At this point based on everything Gettleman has said  
arniefez : 4/23/2018 10:03 am : link
I'm convinced the Giants will pick Barkley if the Browns don't take him # 1. Who knows if that will work out the way they hope.
RE: RE: Good  
MojoEd : 4/23/2018 10:08 am : link
In comment 13925888 Justlurking said:
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I hope the giants pick Rosen best QB in the draft imo.



Seriously. If Josh Rosen was named Brock Thorncrusher and he was from Odessa, Texas he would be the consensus #1 QB of the draft - if not decade.

If he wasnít an @ss, if he was a dedicated hard worker (Mora suggests no), if he wasnít fragile .... I would be right there with you hoping Brock was the pick. :)
RE: Didn't  
UberAlias : 4/23/2018 10:16 am : link
In comment 13925871 GiantsRage2007 said:
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King say a few weeks ago that Allen was #1? I can't wait till Thursday... everyone is just throwing darts
he did, and since Dorsey has come out and refuted. There has been a lot of backlash from fans in response to the idea and this sounds to me like it may be coming from Dorsey himself --squashing the rumor once and for all.
RE: Didn't King say the Browns were without a doubt  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 4/23/2018 10:16 am : link
In comment 13925853 Tom from LI said:
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taking Allen like a week or two ago?


These guys are worse than the weathermen with their predictions.
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Being a journalist or weatherman has to be the easiest Jon in the eorld, just make up inside source fake news or say there's a 50% chance of rain and take a nap.
Good!  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 4/23/2018 10:21 am : link
More fast, Roethlisberg strong,cannon arm, wonderlic genius, giant hands, strong work ethic farm kid, motivated chip on his shoulder rejected by every major program we for the Giants to pick!

Or Barkley.
Giants  
jtgiants : 4/23/2018 10:23 am : link
Are going Barkley/Chubb. Darnold was only qb they would have taken. The only way they trade down is if they are guaranteed Barkley/Chubb/nelson
Something is going on behind the scenes with Allen  
PatersonPlank : 4/23/2018 10:24 am : link
for him to come out publicly and try to talk down his accuracy issues recently.
RE: Giants  
Brown Recluse : 4/23/2018 10:26 am : link
In comment 13926005 jtgiants said:
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Are going Barkley/Chubb. Darnold was only qb they would have taken. The only way they trade down is if they are guaranteed Barkley/Chubb/nelson


As they should. Don't force anything, even the QB.
RE: RE: Good  
Scyber : 4/23/2018 10:27 am : link
In comment 13925888 Justlurking said:
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In comment 13925751 cokeduplt said:


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I hope the giants pick Rosen best QB in the draft imo.



Seriously. If Josh Rosen was named Brock Thorncrusher and he was from Odessa, Texas he would be the consensus #1 QB of the draft - if not decade.


WTF does his name have to do with anything? I think most peoples concerns with Rosen are his injury history.
Darnold-Barkley-Rosen  
ryanmkeane : 4/23/2018 10:47 am : link
1-2-3
RE: RE: Didn't  
djm : 4/23/2018 10:50 am : link
In comment 13925879 ZogZerg said:
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In comment 13925871 GiantsRage2007 said:


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King say a few weeks ago that Allen was #1? I can't wait till Thursday... everyone is just throwing darts



Yeah, now that you mention it, I think he did.
LOL


They all did!
comparing these wackos to weathermen is a disgrace  
djm : 4/23/2018 1:17 pm : link
weathermen get it right more often than not. much more often than not. For every 10 days they nail right they get maybe one day off a little bit and then the typical response is that they are always wrong.

They aren't wrong that often at all. Matter of fact they are right on the money just about all the tine.
The Browns should be going with  
GuzzaBlue : 4/23/2018 1:28 pm : link
the safer pick at QB. I think I'd be surprised if it wasn't Darnold at this point. Although, I think Rosen is going to the best of the bunch, he also carries more risk than Darnold. Been saying it all along, Rosen is the best arm talent and football IQ of the bunch. If the Giants pass on Rosen, I'd be surprised if the Jets did as well.



RE: RE: Good  
Kevin in Annapolis : 4/23/2018 1:30 pm : link
In comment 13925888 Justlurking said:
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IIf Josh Rosen was named Brock Thorncrusher ....


TBF, that is an awesome name
Not sure if any reasonable person actually  
eclipz928 : 4/23/2018 2:30 pm : link
thought the Browns were ever going to use the #1 on Allen. They may still like him, and maybe when take him at #4, but there's never been any indication that any of the other teams value Allen over both Rosen and Darnold.
Barkley, Rosen or trade down  
Big_Blue_in_the_Bronx : 4/23/2018 2:52 pm : link
Thats my guess....
The media  
Peppers : 4/23/2018 3:42 pm : link
Majority of them just say whatever they want and people continue to eat out of their palms.

Darnold has been the guy all along.. never heard any different.
Name your top three favorites in the draft  
gidiefor : Mod : 4/23/2018 5:30 pm : link
for me -- its Barkley, Vea and James
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