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GMAN4LIFE : 4/23/2018 1:10 pm
Seeing to get this thread going as we are 3 days away from the premiere.

So far no reviews yet as they will be coming in on Wednesday. But one person has already said the following

"lets put it this way, you will cry and the ending will be monumental. Its quite obvious that when the movie finishes, you will know the title of the next film and segways into the people that arent in the movie"
"segways"  
Mr. Bungle : 4/23/2018 1:19 pm : link
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segue... damn autocorrect  
GMAN4LIFE : 4/23/2018 1:21 pm : link
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Sucks  
BIG FRED 1973 : 4/23/2018 1:59 pm : link
that its coming out Draft week ,Iam buying tickets right now for Saturday @ 3:45 pm .Hope no one ruins it for me by then
Seeing it Thursday night  
Giantology : 4/23/2018 2:40 pm : link
fucking pumped!
Just got caught up with all  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/23/2018 2:46 pm : link
my Marvel films that I was missing.

Spiderman Homecoming was pretty good (Surprised Shocker wasn't as involved in it).

Thor was fun especially with Haulk being involved.
can't wait until saturday  
weeg in the bronx : 4/23/2018 3:29 pm : link
Noon showing. Film of the year, I hope and pray it doesn't disappoint.
I heard that the final fight  
Tom from LI : 4/23/2018 3:30 pm : link
is Thor vs Thanos and Thor has Stormbreaker this go around and is beating Thanos. Right before Thor can finish him, Thanos activates the Gauntlet and erases half of universe or something like that. Not sure how true that is but it sure sounds cool. Also they said that scene where you see the avengers running through the jungle is when the see Thor has arrived and is putting a whooping on Thanos. It rejuvenates the Avengers to rejoin the fight.

I would like that because Thor is probably my favorite Marvel hero.
Thanos gets defeated by Squirrel Girl  
ATL_Giants : 4/23/2018 4:38 pm : link
in the comics.

The movie may overpower him a bit.

reactions are coming out  
GMAN4LIFE : 4/24/2018 8:06 am : link
1 saw one disappointed and the rest happy...

"the best marvel ending"
RE: I heard that the final fight  
mdc1 : 4/24/2018 10:49 am : link
In comment 13926741 Tom from LI said:
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is Thor vs Thanos and Thor has Stormbreaker this go around and is beating Thanos. Right before Thor can finish him, Thanos activates the Gauntlet and erases half of universe or something like that. Not sure how true that is but it sure sounds cool. Also they said that scene where you see the avengers running through the jungle is when the see Thor has arrived and is putting a whooping on Thanos. It rejuvenates the Avengers to rejoin the fight.

I would like that because Thor is probably my favorite Marvel hero.


As one of my Marvel friends comments. Somebody is going to need Odin force to stop Thanos, the other guys are just getting shots in to fill time. Thor assume has that given its his father? What other Marvel guys have this? Dr Doom, Loki, Galactus, Silver Surfer?
RE: Thanos gets defeated by Squirrel Girl  
mdc1 : 4/24/2018 10:49 am : link
In comment 13926895 ATL_Giants said:
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in the comics.

The movie may overpower him a bit.



They are saving that for the all-female reboot.
RE: RE: I heard that the final fight  
GMAN4LIFE : 4/24/2018 11:02 am : link
In comment 13928005 mdc1 said:
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In comment 13926741 Tom from LI said:


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is Thor vs Thanos and Thor has Stormbreaker this go around and is beating Thanos. Right before Thor can finish him, Thanos activates the Gauntlet and erases half of universe or something like that. Not sure how true that is but it sure sounds cool. Also they said that scene where you see the avengers running through the jungle is when the see Thor has arrived and is putting a whooping on Thanos. It rejuvenates the Avengers to rejoin the fight.

I would like that because Thor is probably my favorite Marvel hero.



As one of my Marvel friends comments. Somebody is going to need Odin force to stop Thanos, the other guys are just getting shots in to fill time. Thor assume has that given its his father? What other Marvel guys have this? Dr Doom, Loki, Galactus, Silver Surfer?


i fucking hope not.. for the love of god, have Thor die and Captain die. We need some deaths. Heroic deaths but deaths
RE: RE: RE: I heard that the final fight  
mdc1 : 4/24/2018 1:46 pm : link
In comment 13928033 GMAN4LIFE said:
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In comment 13926741 Tom from LI said:


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is Thor vs Thanos and Thor has Stormbreaker this go around and is beating Thanos. Right before Thor can finish him, Thanos activates the Gauntlet and erases half of universe or something like that. Not sure how true that is but it sure sounds cool. Also they said that scene where you see the avengers running through the jungle is when the see Thor has arrived and is putting a whooping on Thanos. It rejuvenates the Avengers to rejoin the fight.

I would like that because Thor is probably my favorite Marvel hero.



As one of my Marvel friends comments. Somebody is going to need Odin force to stop Thanos, the other guys are just getting shots in to fill time. Thor assume has that given its his father? What other Marvel guys have this? Dr Doom, Loki, Galactus, Silver Surfer?



i fucking hope not.. for the love of god, have Thor die and Captain die. We need some deaths. Heroic deaths but deaths


I thought Thanos is a figure into a part 2. Has that changed? Somebody has to die or get hobbled into ineffectiveness.
just read spoilers and im already disappointed...  
GMAN4LIFE : 4/24/2018 2:06 pm : link
fucking disney
RE: RE: RE: I heard that the final fight  
NYG27 : 4/24/2018 3:24 pm : link
In comment 13928033 GMAN4LIFE said:
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In comment 13926741 Tom from LI said:


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is Thor vs Thanos and Thor has Stormbreaker this go around and is beating Thanos. Right before Thor can finish him, Thanos activates the Gauntlet and erases half of universe or something like that. Not sure how true that is but it sure sounds cool. Also they said that scene where you see the avengers running through the jungle is when the see Thor has arrived and is putting a whooping on Thanos. It rejuvenates the Avengers to rejoin the fight.

I would like that because Thor is probably my favorite Marvel hero.



As one of my Marvel friends comments. Somebody is going to need Odin force to stop Thanos, the other guys are just getting shots in to fill time. Thor assume has that given its his father? What other Marvel guys have this? Dr Doom, Loki, Galactus, Silver Surfer?



i fucking hope not.. for the love of god, have Thor die and Captain die. We need some deaths. Heroic deaths but deaths


I really doubt there are "actual" character deaths in these movies. Pretty sure the next wave of Marvel Cinematic Universe will deal with the Skull invasion of Earth, especially with the Captain Marvel films. Who ever dies off can easily be accounted for a shape shifting Skull who was killed instead of the original.

That would allow Downey, Evans, Hemsworth or whoever else contract expires to leave but return down the line in future films if called upon and $$$ agreed to.
Here a reddit post detailing the ENTIRE plot of the movie.  
guitarguybs12 : 4/24/2018 3:29 pm : link
...for those who like me, don't care about knowing everything about a movie before seeing it.

Seems quite disappointing IMO.

It has been verified as correct by multiple journalists.


Infinity War Full Spoilers - ( New Window )
RE: Here a reddit post detailing the ENTIRE plot of the movie.  
GMAN4LIFE : 4/24/2018 3:36 pm : link
In comment 13928783 guitarguybs12 said:
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...for those who like me, don't care about knowing everything about a movie before seeing it.

Seems quite disappointing IMO.

It has been verified as correct by multiple journalists.
Infinity War Full Spoilers - ( New Window )


yep... forbes spoiled it too... there are actual deaths but its just disney written all over it
OK, so who else saw it?  
JOrthman : 4/29/2018 12:28 am : link
No discussion yet?
I wouldn't call it disappointing at all  
JOrthman : 4/29/2018 12:29 am : link
I was kinda surprised with the ending.
After he uses the stones to destroy half the universe  
RobCarpenter : 4/29/2018 12:37 am : link
The gauntlet looked different to me. Maybe I’m wrong though.

And how is the Red Skull able to levitate?
RE: After he uses the stones to destroy half the universe  
JOrthman : 4/29/2018 12:43 am : link
In comment 13944760 RobCarpenter said:
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The gauntlet looked different to me. Maybe I’m wrong though.

And how is the Red Skull able to levitate?


On the gauntlet, I didn't notice, I so surprised they let it happen, I didn't look that close.
The gauntlet was modified  
Knineteen : 4/29/2018 2:11 am : link
And the stones looked spent. It appears he destroyed them both while executing his plan.
Captivating movie, but A LOT of unanswered questions.  
Knineteen : 4/29/2018 2:18 am : link
Trailer clearly shows Hulk in Wakanda, but he was nowhere to be seen after first five minutes of the film.
Hawkeye is credited but not in the film.
Dr. Strange states, “it was the only way”, right before he dies. What does that mean?

Also not a fan that Loki, Gamora and Vision are all listed in the sequel. All three were confidently killed in the film; are we led to believe they cheat death?
Time stone  
RobCarpenter : 4/29/2018 3:25 am : link
Will almost certainly be used in the sequel to reverse what Thanos did.

Dr strange  
RobCarpenter : 4/29/2018 3:27 am : link
Saw what needed to happen for Thanos to be defeated and in that scenario he trades Iron Man for the time stone.
RE: Time stone  
JOrthman : 4/29/2018 3:35 am : link
In comment 13944827 RobCarpenter said:
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Will almost certainly be used in the sequel to reverse what Thanos did.


I figured that would happen, but I'm curious how far back they take it. Who gets brought back.
As I said before, Disney has no balls  
GMAN4LIFE : 4/29/2018 6:21 am : link
It’s all about money. Fucking Captain should have died a heroic death but nope.
RE: As I said before, Disney has no balls  
Giantology : 4/29/2018 7:16 am : link
In comment 13944860 GMAN4LIFE said:
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It’s all about money. Fucking Captain should have died a heroic death but nope.


He can still die in the sequel. Can’t believe this is what someone is bitching about after 2.5 hours of the most epic Marvel movie yet.
RE: RE: As I said before, Disney has no balls  
RobCarpenter : 4/29/2018 7:59 am : link
In comment 13944891 Giantology said:
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It’s all about money. Fucking Captain should have died a heroic death but nope.



He can still die in the sequel. Can’t believe this is what someone is bitching about after 2.5 hours of the most epic Marvel movie yet.


Agreed. Some of the characters will die ‘for good’ in the next movie. I think it’s, at minimum, Iron Man and Captain America.



Clearly
I thought it was kind of disappointing  
Mike in NJ : 4/29/2018 9:33 am : link
It was a good movie, and definitely better than Age of Ultron, but I went in expecting it to be my favorite Marvel film but it ended up just being “good enough.”

The action was good, and I think they did a nice job of balancing the roles of so many different characters, but it felt like they didn’t take any risks, there were no big surprises (other than the return of Red Skull but let’s see if that ends up being significant in the grand scheme of things), and with some of the choices they made of who would “die” they made it fairly obvious that this isn’t permanent. The best example of this would be Spider-Man, there is a Spider-Man sequel coming out next summer, it’s pretty obvious that he is not going to stay dead. If they would have “killed” Tony, Cap, Thor, Hulk, or anyone else that doesn’t have a sequel on the way then at least there would be some suspense around whether any of this was permanent.

I also was hoping for a big reveal of some sort in the post credits. Thanos mentioned that he had destroyed Xandar to get the first stone which sets up the origin of Nova. I would have been pumped to see him teased after the credits, but instead we get a nod to Captain Marvel which we already knew was coming.

I want to watch it again, maybe my expectations were too high going in and upon a second viewing I will appreciate it more, but I definitely left the theater disappointed.
It’s one half of a story  
RobCarpenter : 4/29/2018 10:05 am : link
I do agree that it’s obvious some characters will come back. At the end the only Guardians left are Rocket and Nebula.

I also think the soul stone will play a role in retrieving the heroes. The scene with Thanos and the young Gamora is probably in the soul stone.
RE: As I said before, Disney has no balls  
ThreePoints : 4/29/2018 10:16 am : link
In comment 13944860 GMAN4LIFE said:
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It’s all about money. Fucking Captain should have died a heroic death but nope.


But instead, they "killed off" Black Panther! Just a minor side character, right? Oh wait, no, Black Panther just had a huge movie.

And Spiderman! Ya know, the super hero people love and continually flock to any Spiderman movie, no matter how bad it is.

Right, no balls.
Cap and Iron man, maybe Thor  
Jan in DC : 4/29/2018 10:26 am : link
probably won't make it out of the next movie.

The meaningful death's in this one would be Loki and Gamora I think. I thought it was good. The large cast was unwieldy at points and the story suffered because of it, but it was a good movie. The action scene were good and you could always tell what was going on. But for me, it very much felt like the first half of a movie.
I agree actually.... I was bracing for these huge deaths  
ZGiants98 : 4/29/2018 11:58 am : link
All movie and was a little disappointed everyone do obviousky went out by Thanos in that way. It didn’t feel genuine because you know that many characters would all be brought back by the time stone. I didn’t feel sad one bit.

Other than that the movie was epic though. Thanos was great.
They are touting Captain Marvel as one of THE strongest  
Knineteen : 4/29/2018 5:23 pm : link
in the entire MCU. Which begs the question as to where the hell she’s been the past few decades!?

And what is she capable of that assists the entire MCU now that a battle with Thanos is no longer needed (for now)?
RE: RE: As I said before, Disney has no balls  
Knineteen : 4/29/2018 5:27 pm : link
In comment 13945118 ThreePoints said:
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It’s all about money. Fucking Captain should have died a heroic death but nope.



But instead, they "killed off" Black Panther! Just a minor side character, right? Oh wait, no, Black Panther just had a huge movie.

And Spiderman! Ya know, the super hero people love and continually flock to any Spiderman movie, no matter how bad it is.

Right, no balls.

Yes, no balls because we know they are coming back!

The downfall of the entire MCU is that major characters can never die. Balls would mean killing off BP and leaving him dead! THAT’S being dedicated to the story line and not to profits.
RE: They are touting Captain Marvel as one of THE strongest  
RobCarpenter : 4/29/2018 5:27 pm : link
In comment 13945797 Knineteen said:
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in the entire MCU. Which begs the question as to where the hell she’s been the past few decades!?

And what is she capable of that assists the entire MCU now that a battle with Thanos is no longer needed (for now)?


Presumably we’ll find that out in her movie.

Clearly the next film will involve getting the Gauntlet from Thanos. She will play a key role in that. Maybe she’s filling the role that Adam Warlock filled in the Infinity Gauntlet comic book series.
RE: After he uses the stones to destroy half the universe  
montanagiant : 4/29/2018 5:30 pm : link
In comment 13944760 RobCarpenter said:
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The gauntlet looked different to me. Maybe I’m wrong though.

And how is the Red Skull able to levitate?

Just saw the movie, the gauntlet is torn apart and barely still attached. My theory is they get the Time stone back and reverse time to just when Thor throws the axe at Thanos but this time he aims the head
I really enjoyed it  
Giantfan in skinland : 4/29/2018 5:34 pm : link
Seems like it was probably helpful that I mostly tried to stay away from spoilers and announcements of what's in the pipeline. Definitely gave more weight to the deaths for me than it seems like they would have had knowing, for example, that more Spidey films have been announced.

That said, having now learned of this stuff and reflecting on the seeming inevtability of the lost characters coming back, certainly loses some of the oomph I thought the film had. We'll see what they do.
RE: RE: After he uses the stones to destroy half the universe  
RobCarpenter : 4/29/2018 6:39 pm : link
In comment 13945810 montanagiant said:
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The gauntlet looked different to me. Maybe I’m wrong though.

And how is the Red Skull able to levitate?


Just saw the movie, the gauntlet is torn apart and barely still attached. My theory is they get the Time stone back and reverse time to just when Thor throws the axe at Thanos but this time he aims the head


I agree they use the time stone, but think they go further back. And I also think the soul stone plays a role somehow.
I dont understand peoples desire to characters killed off  
twostepgiants : 4/29/2018 7:02 pm : link
Makes no sense to me

I don’t believe the reversing of the resolution will involve the Infinity Stones.

I think it could involve the Quantum Realm of AntMan and Multiverse of Doctor Strange.
If you are bitching about who died and who  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/29/2018 7:12 pm : link
Didn’t you are nuts. This isn’t final. The real characters will die in the next movie and the ones who died in the part 1 will return.

It will be resolved in the next movie so how about we wait until the story is complete.

RE: I dont understand peoples desire to characters killed off  
Knineteen : 4/29/2018 7:26 pm : link
In comment 13945953 twostepgiants said:
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Makes no sense to me

Because after a while we come to the reality that superhero’s are invinsible. At which point the films become less dramatic as we realize sticky situations will result in positive outcomes.

I mean, a dozen superheroes are now dead and we realize all are coming back to life. Not really climatic.
RE: RE: RE: After he uses the stones to destroy half the universe  
montanagiant : 4/29/2018 8:21 pm : link
In comment 13945914 RobCarpenter said:
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The gauntlet looked different to me. Maybe I’m wrong though.

And how is the Red Skull able to levitate?


Just saw the movie, the gauntlet is torn apart and barely still attached. My theory is they get the Time stone back and reverse time to just when Thor throws the axe at Thanos but this time he aims the head



I agree they use the time stone, but think they go further back. And I also think the soul stone plays a role somehow.

That might be where some don't come back and some do because of the "Soul for a Soul" deal
In the comics storyline  
JerryNYG : 4/29/2018 8:28 pm : link
there was a similar part where Thanos kills half the universe, including many heroes, but it eventually is reversed.

I enjoyed the movie. It obviously is half a story, we get the rest next year. I don't go to Marvel movies for serious drama, I go for fun popcorn movies and they usually deliver.
RE: RE: I dont understand peoples desire to characters killed off  
ThreePoints : 4/29/2018 8:45 pm : link
In comment 13945996 Knineteen said:
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Makes no sense to me


Because after a while we come to the reality that superhero’s are invinsible. At which point the films become less dramatic as we realize sticky situations will result in positive outcomes.

I mean, a dozen superheroes are now dead and we realize all are coming back to life. Not really climatic.


This is an incomplete line of reasoning, in my opinion.

We know that most of these characters are coming back, yes. But we don't know the how or the "what else?" We don't know the plot to get them back.

By that logic, no nonfiction movie can be climatic. We know what's going to happen after all!

The whole idea of a hero falls apart. If we know the main character is going to survive, why watch the movie at all? We know he/she is going to survive!
RE: RE: RE: I dont understand peoples desire to characters killed off  
Knineteen : 4/30/2018 12:44 am : link
In comment 13946108 ThreePoints said:
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By that logic, no nonfiction movie can be climatic. We know what's going to happen after all!

The whole idea of a hero falls apart. If we know the main character is going to survive, why watch the movie at all? We know he/she is going to survive!

If we know a hero can't die, then the audience becomes less invested in fight scenes. There's less emotions involved when a hero is in a sticky situation because we know they are eventually going to circumvent it.

How exactly does this make the entire viewing experience better?
One thing I read today that I did not notice  
montanagiant : 4/30/2018 10:50 am : link
The survivors of the "Snap" are the original 5 Avengers which means Avengers 4 will be a tighter story about the band getting back together again. Slick way to tie up the past few movies storylines of seperation
I thought it was great  
JonC : 4/30/2018 11:01 am : link
didn't want it to end, and looking forward to the next film.

Only real complaints I had was there is very little Winter Soldier, Capt, and Hulk in it and I don't love the GoG involvement.
RE: One thing I read today that I did not notice  
Jan in DC : 4/30/2018 11:18 am : link
In comment 13947045 montanagiant said:
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The survivors of the "Snap" are the original 5 Avengers which means Avengers 4 will be a tighter story about the band getting back together again. Slick way to tie up the past few movies storylines of seperation


Yup. That part will be great. I was thinking that from a storytelling standpoint (and probably financially considering the contracts of everyone that was in this first movie) that the next movie will really be a better narrative because they won't have to bounce around as much.

I loved it, but it does strain under the amount of characters involved.
Saw it yesterday and i really liked  
BIG FRED 1973 : 4/30/2018 12:07 pm : link
I could have sworn i heard the Wilhelm scream in the scene where Ebony Maw gets sent into space .I really hope they have Mephisto in the next movie also that would be awesome
RE: One thing I read today that I did not notice  
RobCarpenter : 4/30/2018 12:16 pm : link
In comment 13947045 montanagiant said:
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The survivors of the "Snap" are the original 5 Avengers which means Avengers 4 will be a tighter story about the band getting back together again. Slick way to tie up the past few movies storylines of seperation


They are all together in Wakanda at the end, except for Iron Man. I think Rocket gets a ship and flies to Titan to retrieve Iron Man and Nebula.

Interestingly the Infinity Gauntlet series in the comics is almost entirely about what happens after Thanos snaps his fingers. Some Easter Eggs from that comic:

The line that Ebony Maw says to Thanos is the same line that Mephisto says to Thanos in the comics
Hulk lands in Dr. Strange's lair with Wong and Strange there - in the comics it is the Silver Surfer
Thanos is resting at the end, similar to what he is doing at the end of comic series

I'm sure there are many other Easter Eggs but I tried to do these without the assistance of Google.

I was pretty disappointed at a few stupid things  
NJ_GIANTS : 4/30/2018 3:27 pm : link
My boys were confused by a few things - so was I

* They made Hulk a HUGE PUSSY!!! Started in Ragnarok.
* How does Thor breathe and talk in space????

* They overpowered Thanos, they made him unstoppable; except that he wasn't - Disney had Starlord ruin the plan.
* BUT, why didn't Doctor Stange just tell Starlord that Gamora was dead, so he didn't freak out, if he looked at 14M option of the future and there was only one solution? Wouldn't part of the solution be to not let Starlord ruin the plan? Boom, movie over!!!

Why not have Strange just reverse time again with the avengers, stop the whole thing before it happens!

So killing Vision is bad, no one is allowed to die on the team, except for the 1000s of Wakandan fighting to protect him, oh and 1/2 the universe?

Stark's tech is better than anything in the universe?

Thanos seemed to respect Stark, why?

Black Widow (5'4" human) and ‎Michonne (5'7" human)[Walking Dead] - no powers - and they have no problem taking on a 9ft tall super woman warrior - no injuries?

So Starlord is supposed to kill Gamora to not give up the secret and does it, but in the same act situation Gamora gives up the secret to not have Thanos kill Nebula?

---Loved the jokes and Spider Man comments - the Aliens thing sis just awesome!
---Amazing Art, Landscapes, and Costumes
---Everyone comes back - they are sending Tony Stark & Ant Man back in time to before the 1st Avengers to stop everything.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4154796/mediaviewer/rm2590001920
Notice the Avengers Cap Uniform and It's NYC!!

So it's a typical Marvel reset.


Dr. Strange said he looked into the future and saw 14 million outcomes  
Britt in VA : 4/30/2018 3:31 pm : link
and the only one they only won one.

That tells you that everything Dr. Strange did, or let happen, from that point on probably occurred in that one single scenario in which they won.

He let Starlord ruin the plan.
He willingly gave up the time stone.
He traded for Iron Man's life because he needs Iron Man in that one scenario.
He said right before he died, "this is the only way", meaning in the one scenario.

Also, in the Dr. Strange movie, they say that you can only see in the future until you die, so Dr. Strange must have been alive in order to see the single scenario in which they won, so he must no that killing half the universe, including himself, was necessary to get to that one single scenario.
RE: I was pretty disappointed at a few stupid things  
RobCarpenter : 4/30/2018 3:57 pm : link
In comment 13947662 NJ_GIANTS said:
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My boys were confused by a few things - so was I

* They made Hulk a HUGE PUSSY!!! Started in Ragnarok.



They didn't make Hulk a pussy, he had never gotten his ass kicked before and he couldn't deal with that. Based on the pics from imdb that you shared, though, he's clearly back in the next film.

Strange let everything happen that needed to happen for them to beat Thanos, as has been said here. I think it's kind of obvious that was his plan.
RE: RE: I was pretty disappointed at a few stupid things  
NJ_GIANTS : 4/30/2018 4:27 pm : link
Thor kicked his ass in the last movie. Thor only lost because the Grandmaster interfered.


It's just lame to use time travel again to resolve everything again; deus ex machina. Just like in the X-Men: Days of Future Past movie when Logan reset the timeline to allow them to change story lines. They did it in Star Trek.

Would have been better to just let some of the hero die, permanently, in doing so save the universe.

Otherwise, we might as well have them pull back on the camera and show the writers / artists like the did in the Deadpool comic!!!

I want to see the Marvel Zombie story line.

In comment 13947738 RobCarpenter said:
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My boys were confused by a few things - so was I

* They made Hulk a HUGE PUSSY!!! Started in Ragnarok.





They didn't make Hulk a pussy, he had never gotten his ass kicked before and he couldn't deal with that. Based on the pics from imdb that you shared, though, he's clearly back in the next film.

Strange let everything happen that needed to happen for them to beat Thanos, as has been said here. I think it's kind of obvious that was his plan.
“The Snapture”  
RobCarpenter : 4/30/2018 10:00 pm : link
I can’t take credit as I read it in a NPR article.
...  
Route 9 : 5/1/2018 3:03 am : link
Bought a ticket at the last minute to the 11:00 show tonight. Just got home and I am willing to pay to see it again with some other friends soon.
The only person that stays dead in the MCU  
ATL_Giants : 5/1/2018 10:41 am : link
is Ben Parker, Spiderman's uncle.

This was a great effort in trying to tell this story on the big screen. There's so much going on, constant and dramatic scene and character changes didn't allow for better dialog and inter-character conflicts.

Some high points:
-Tony and Pepper talking about having a baby in the beginning, very endearing.
-Stark and Strange in a pissing contest. I really wanted to see that.
-Thor calling Rocket "Rabbit" and Groot "Tree".
-Chris Pratt jealous of Thor, very funny.
-Thanos and Gamora relationship, vexing but necessary.
I didn't mind seeing  
family progtitioner : 5/1/2018 10:51 am : link
Hulk not want to come out. He literally got bitch slapped by Thanos, unthinkable for him. It was a shocker for me to see it on screen as well.
Some low points  
ATL_Giants : 5/1/2018 11:01 am : link
-Thanos is overpowered.
-The Wakanda army was pretty small, and all foot soldiers.
-The Guardians travel to space locations in a day?
-Tyrion Lannister's axe healed Thor from his burns?
-Drax is just a vehicle for lame jokes.
-Vision is nerfed, Scotland could've been an awesome Vision fight... but love made him a puss I guess.
-Starlord ruining his own plan was dumb. Nebula could've said something after the gauntlet was off.
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ATL_Giants : 5/1/2018 1:52 pm : link
RE: Dr. Strange said he looked into the future and saw 14 million outcomes  
In comment 13947671 Britt in VA said:
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and the only one they only won one.

That tells you that everything Dr. Strange did, or let happen, from that point on probably occurred in that one single scenario in which they won.

He let Starlord ruin the plan.
He willingly gave up the time stone.
He traded for Iron Man's life because he needs Iron Man in that one scenario.
He said right before he died, "this is the only way", meaning in the one scenario.

Also, in the Dr. Strange movie, they say that you can only see in the future until you die, so Dr. Strange must have been alive in order to see the single scenario in which they won, so he must no that killing half the universe, including himself, was necessary to get to that one single scenario.

This is all correct. Now we know that some of these deaths will be reversed. There are already a Guardians of the Galaxy, Spiderman, and Black Panther sequels in the works. Loki is dead for good because he didn't die at the hands of the soul stone. Gamora might be revived because she was in the stone but it's possible she's gone for good.

We also know that Chris Evans' contract is up after the next Avengers film so he will surely die rescuing the rest of the heroes. I could see Hulk and Thor dying as well. I have a feeling that Hawkeye was missing because he was off in search of Capt Marvel.
I saw it last night  
the ending really shocked me. Now I realize that most of the heroes will return somehow but seeing every GOG except for Rocket die was shocking as were the deaths of Spiderman, Black Panther, and Bucky. I know a lot of people will complain about the reversal of the deaths in the next film but I thought it was well done. The whole theatre fell eerily quiet when the deaths were happening.

There was a lot more humor than I expected. My only complaints would be that they spent too much time on the guardians and they made vision into a pussy.
RE: RE: Dr. Strange said he looked into the future and saw 14 million outcomes  
Mike in NJ : 9:41 am : link
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and the only one they only won one.

That tells you that everything Dr. Strange did, or let happen, from that point on probably occurred in that one single scenario in which they won.

He let Starlord ruin the plan.
He willingly gave up the time stone.
He traded for Iron Man's life because he needs Iron Man in that one scenario.
He said right before he died, "this is the only way", meaning in the one scenario.

Also, in the Dr. Strange movie, they say that you can only see in the future until you die, so Dr. Strange must have been alive in order to see the single scenario in which they won, so he must no that killing half the universe, including himself, was necessary to get to that one single scenario.


This is all correct. Now we know that some of these deaths will be reversed. There are already a Guardians of the Galaxy, Spiderman, and Black Panther sequels in the works. Loki is dead for good because he didn't die at the hands of the soul stone. Gamora might be revived because she was in the stone but it's possible she's gone for good.

We also know that Chris Evans' contract is up after the next Avengers film so he will surely die rescuing the rest of the heroes. I could see Hulk and Thor dying as well. I have a feeling that Hawkeye was missing because he was off in search of Capt Marvel.


I wouldn't assume that Evans is done after the next Avengers film. I think it is possible that we get a couple of movies where Steve Rogers is "dead" and either Falcon or Bucky take up the mantle, but I think ultimately Evans will be back in the role.

I can't think of a reason that Marvel Studios would want to move on from him being that the films are so successful with him as a focal point, and really what else does Evans have going for him? The only thing I think I have seen him in other than the Captain America role for the last several years was Snowpiercer.
RE: RE: RE: Dr. Strange said he looked into the future and saw 14 million outcomes  
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I wouldn't assume that Evans is done after the next Avengers film. I think it is possible that we get a couple of movies where Steve Rogers is "dead" and either Falcon or Bucky take up the mantle, but I think ultimately Evans will be back in the role.

I can't think of a reason that Marvel Studios would want to move on from him being that the films are so successful with him as a focal point, and really what else does Evans have going for him? The only thing I think I have seen him in other than the Captain America role for the last several years was Snowpiercer.


He confirmed that it is his last film as Captain America. It wasn't just a misleading statement he was choked up talking about it. He has talked about this for years. He wants to direct films. It will be sad to see him go as he is my favorite hero but I think they will give him a heroic ending in the finale. I fully expect him to sacrifice himself. I could see Bucky taking the shield unless they want to keep him in Wakanda as the White Wolf to add another hero for the Black Panther films.
One more thing  
The Russo brother's did a fantastic job with Thanos' character development. They really humanized him at times and you could sort of understand his point of view as warped as it is.

The Gauntlet was visibly damaged after he snapped his fingers. I wonder if we will see a return of Dinklage's character who will forge a new gauntlet for one of the heroes (Capt Marvel, Nebula, Thor, Hulk, Adam Warlock?) to wear to defeat Thanos.
I fully expect that this next Avengers film  
Jan in DC : 10:21 am : link
could be the last time we see RDJ and Evans characters in that role. RDJ for the fact that he has asked for so much money, and Evans because he wants to direct and do other projects.

I would have said Thor too, but I think Ragnarok revitalized the franchise, so I can see him doing more. But surely with Guardians, Captain Marvel, Spiderman and Black Panther they can transition to a new version of the Avengers for the next 10 years.
can i ask why the ending shocked everyone?  
GMAN4LIFE : 10:22 am : link
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RE: can i ask why the ending shocked everyone?  
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It's not that several heroes died. It was WHO was killed that surprised me. Black Panther, Dr. Strange, Spiderman, Star Lord, and Groot were the big surprises.

One question to consider. How the F%#k are Tony Stark and Nebula going to get off Titan? Stark was stabbed in the gut, his suit is irreparably damaged, and they don't have a space ship on the dead planet. He doesn't have any of his tech either to solve the problem.
RE: RE: can i ask why the ending shocked everyone?  
GMAN4LIFE : 10:38 am : link
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It's not that several heroes died. It was WHO was killed that surprised me. Black Panther, Dr. Strange, Spiderman, Star Lord, and Groot were the big surprises.

One question to consider. How the F%#k are Tony Stark and Nebula going to get off Titan? Stark was stabbed in the gut, his suit is irreparably damaged, and they don't have a space ship on the dead planet. He doesn't have any of his tech either to solve the problem.


but you know they arent dead... see thats what gets me. I know they arent dead because their second movies were already announced. Thats the reason why i wanted some of the A list team to die because that would be surprising.
RE: RE: can i ask why the ending shocked everyone?  
Bill L : 10:40 am : link
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It's not that several heroes died. It was WHO was killed that surprised me. Black Panther, Dr. Strange, Spiderman, Star Lord, and Groot were the big surprises.

One question to consider. How the F%#k are Tony Stark and Nebula going to get off Titan? Stark was stabbed in the gut, his suit is irreparably damaged, and they don't have a space ship on the dead planet. He doesn't have any of his tech either to solve the problem.
How did Nebula get to Titan?
RE: RE: RE: can i ask why the ending shocked everyone?  
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but you know they arent dead... see thats what gets me. I know they arent dead because their second movies were already announced. Thats the reason why i wanted some of the A list team to die because that would be surprising.

Of course but the A-Listers are the ones who go back in time. Ant-Man, Tony, Cap, Thor, and Captain Marvel will play a big role. Ant-Man and the quantum realm will be a big part of it somehow. I wonder if the Ant-Man sequel will be before or after Infinity Wars. It would be odd if it were after with every acting normal after half the world's population was killed.
ok my question  
giantfan2000 : 10:43 am : link
Thanos's Snapture reduced entire Universe's population by half.. The movie implies this mean half of all of a specific species disappears.

My question is about Star Lord - He is half terra and half living planet. In GOTG2 Ego says that Star Lord was his first success after many many attempts of spawning a child- therefore it is safe to think that Star Lord is only Species that is half terra / half living planet. With this logic, Star Lord should have survived the Snapture.
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GMAN4LIFE : 10:44 am : link
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but you know they arent dead... see thats what gets me. I know they arent dead because their second movies were already announced. Thats the reason why i wanted some of the A list team to die because that would be surprising.


Of course but the A-Listers are the ones who go back in time. Ant-Man, Tony, Cap, Thor, and Captain Marvel will play a big role. Ant-Man and the quantum realm will be a big part of it somehow. I wonder if the Ant-Man sequel will be before or after Infinity Wars. It would be odd if it were after with every acting normal after half the world's population was killed.


Its before.

The theory is Antman will be present in all the situations but was laying low.

Captain will give his life in the last one. But man it would have been cool if he gave it up in this one.
RE: RE: RE: can i ask why the ending shocked everyone?  
Giantology : 10:44 am : link
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It's not that several heroes died. It was WHO was killed that surprised me. Black Panther, Dr. Strange, Spiderman, Star Lord, and Groot were the big surprises.

One question to consider. How the F%#k are Tony Stark and Nebula going to get off Titan? Stark was stabbed in the gut, his suit is irreparably damaged, and they don't have a space ship on the dead planet. He doesn't have any of his tech either to solve the problem.



but you know they arent dead... see thats what gets me. I know they arent dead because their second movies were already announced. Thats the reason why i wanted some of the A list team to die because that would be surprising.


And again, there's still ANOTHER sequel where A-listers are likely TO die! I mean, were you upset in the comics when everyone came back in Infinity Gauntlet?
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GMAN4LIFE : 10:50 am : link
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It's not that several heroes died. It was WHO was killed that surprised me. Black Panther, Dr. Strange, Spiderman, Star Lord, and Groot were the big surprises.

One question to consider. How the F%#k are Tony Stark and Nebula going to get off Titan? Stark was stabbed in the gut, his suit is irreparably damaged, and they don't have a space ship on the dead planet. He doesn't have any of his tech either to solve the problem.



but you know they arent dead... see thats what gets me. I know they arent dead because their second movies were already announced. Thats the reason why i wanted some of the A list team to die because that would be surprising.



And again, there's still ANOTHER sequel where A-listers are likely TO die! I mean, were you upset in the comics when everyone came back in Infinity Gauntlet?



again my rationale was more emotion to set them off. Setting them off to make them go apeshit even though they will lose. This was that moment. Hell they could have come back for all i care but it would have been a thing of beauty for Captain to die a heroic death now as opposed to the predictable death in the next one.


i mean this movie was great, dont get me wrong. I just wanted more believable deaths instead of ones that i knew wouldnt stay down
RE: RE: can i ask why the ending shocked everyone?  
NJ_GIANTS : 11:10 am : link
They have the GoG's ship the Milano still there. Nebula and Stark can leave on that... or Thor will find them.

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It's not that several heroes died. It was WHO was killed that surprised me. Black Panther, Dr. Strange, Spiderman, Star Lord, and Groot were the big surprises.

One question to consider. How the F%#k are Tony Stark and Nebula going to get off Titan? Stark was stabbed in the gut, his suit is irreparably damaged, and they don't have a space ship on the dead planet. He doesn't have any of his tech either to solve the problem.
RE: RE: RE: RE: can i ask why the ending shocked everyone?  
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And again, there's still ANOTHER sequel where A-listers are likely TO die! I mean, were you upset in the comics when everyone came back in Infinity Gauntlet?


I understand, I haven't read the comics so I can't answer that. I expect Tony to survive but retire and perhaps take a nick fury type of role moving forward where he makes a few cameos here and there. I think that was the whole intent with the scene with him and Pepper.
RE: RE: RE: can i ask why the ending shocked everyone?  
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They have the GoG's ship the Milano still there. Nebula and Stark can leave on that... or Thor will find them.

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It's not that several heroes died. It was WHO was killed that surprised me. Black Panther, Dr. Strange, Spiderman, Star Lord, and Groot were the big surprises.

One question to consider. How the F%#k are Tony Stark and Nebula going to get off Titan? Stark was stabbed in the gut, his suit is irreparably damaged, and they don't have a space ship on the dead planet. He doesn't have any of his tech either to solve the problem.


Thanks, clearly i missed the obvious answer with everything going on.

I did enjoy Loki's redemption. This time he really did sacrifice himself to save Thor.
One more small complaint  
Heimdall can see everything yet he didn't see Thanos attack coming?
I don't follow this stuff very closely  
Bill L : 11:49 am : link
I just go see the movies.

SO I had no clue that the movie wasn't self-contained. It's fine but I'm not a fan of the half a movie/lack of conclusion until a year or more later. I don't care for the Star Wars, and (especially) Harry Potter approach but I know those are coming when I go. So, the ending here surprised me because there weasn't one.
Also...  
Did they ever explain what Thanos needs to do to "activate" an infinity stone? For example, on Titan, why is he bothering fighting them? Can't he turn anyone in to disembodied blocks like he did to the guardians on knowhere? Turn iron man's blasts into bubbles?
RE: Also...  
Britt in VA : 12:29 pm : link
In comment 13950751 Giantfan in skinland said:
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Did they ever explain what Thanos needs to do to "activate" an infinity stone? For example, on Titan, why is he bothering fighting them? Can't he turn anyone in to disembodied blocks like he did to the guardians on knowhere? Turn iron man's blasts into bubbles?


He had to close the fist of the Gauntlet. That's why they kept trying to keep his hand open on Titan.
RE: One more small complaint  
Giantology : 2:00 pm : link
In comment 13950655 Jay on the Island said:
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Heimdall can see everything yet he didn't see Thanos attack coming?


Fair question, but things can be shielded from Heimdall- especially by someone like Thanos. Additionally, by the time the rescue of Asgard was complete and they were in space, Thanos had already intercepted them (this was the mid-credits scene in GOTG2).
Saw this last night, thought it was amazing  
Rory : 5/3/2018 12:46 pm : link
Did MCU ever establish Thanos getting the Power stone from Nova Corps, if not that could be part of GOTG 3 (prequel?)
Which helps with the timeline

My prediction is its all about Iron man to battle and retrieve the gauntlet but will cost him greatly, hence why Strange saved him... It wont stop there though Thor will be summoned to battle Thanos and Hulk will re-emerge to save his friend not quite sure if they make it though. also not sure what to do about Cap but I'm sure it will be epic and heroic ending.

I could see Vision coming back in the Adam Warlock role, or Silver Surfer makes his debut. Great way to introduce the fantastic four in a new timeline of events.

Mrs. Marvel will be a 2 movies in 1. I think it will show her origin and her connection to Nick Fury. It will show her being the one to warn Nick Fury about what is to come (why he assembled the avengers) it will also show her return to earth (distress call) and align with Cap.
oh one more thing  
Rory : 5/3/2018 12:58 pm : link
Tony Stark...

Movie put a interesting emphasis on Starks new heart/orb in his chest. There was always a theory that the soul stone was in the asteroid that created Vibranium and being that Tony's suit in the movie was made from Vibranium, Is it possible that his core is also the same material.

What if it wasn't the soul stone and there is a 7th stone, could be why Stark was the only avenger to actually be formidable and cause Thanos bleed. He is powered by a seventh stone

Strange saved Stark because he is a savior
Many of the orginal actors...  
Italianju : 5/3/2018 1:00 pm : link
have waffled on if this is it for them. Even Evans recently backtracked a bit and said that his contract was up so who knows. Def not as definitive as he had sounded before. I know everyone seems to want these characters to die so it shows stakes or whatever, but im fine if they just sideline them somehow for a bit. I really enjoy Evans, Downey, and Hemsworth in these roles and id like to see them for awhile longer. I think Hemsworth lives, he hasnt sounded ready to leave and Thor 3 was a huge success. He is also easy to explain away in other movies as he can be doing space stuff and not be able to come help.
Since they showed that the soul stone...  
Italianju : 5/3/2018 1:02 pm : link
was on that planet (cant remember the name so ill call it Red Skull planet) i dont think any of the soul stone in wakanda stuff could be true. I guess you could somehow say it was an asteroid that had broke off that planet, but that seems like a bit much, even for a comic book move, ha.
RE: oh one more thing  
Jan in DC : 5/3/2018 1:27 pm : link
In comment 13952726 Rory said:
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Tony Stark...

Movie put a interesting emphasis on Starks new heart/orb in his chest. There was always a theory that the soul stone was in the asteroid that created Vibranium and being that Tony's suit in the movie was made from Vibranium, Is it possible that his core is also the same material.

What if it wasn't the soul stone and there is a 7th stone, could be why Stark was the only avenger to actually be formidable and cause Thanos bleed. He is powered by a seventh stone

Strange saved Stark because he is a savior


I'm pretty sure that the thing in Tony's chest was the nanobots that made up his suit, which is why they made a big deal out of it up front. Because he always has it around. But who knows.
You guys are aware  
rich in DC : 5/3/2018 1:55 pm : link
that NONE of the people who vanished in the end are dead right? They were most likely transported to an alternate realm in the Soul Stone. Remember that there are multiple alternate universes, which was heavily referenced in Dr. Strange. Recall when Dr. Strange first met the Ancient One, she sent him through a number of alternate universes.

We are likely to see a several step explanation over the upcoming movies before Avengers 4. Remember that one of the overriding themes in Ant Man will be the attempt to rescue Janet Pym from the quantum realm. I suspect that this will give clues to where those Thanos eliminated have gone.

Then, Captain Marvel will be introduced in her stand-alone movie. She might be the most powerful of them all in the end- maybe enough to stop Thanos.

Once that is set up, we likely have the events in place to rescue those Thanos eliminated and set up what has been promised to be "an ending" to the 10 year story by Marvel.
RE: You guys are aware  
GMAN4LIFE : 5/3/2018 2:00 pm : link
In comment 13952834 rich in DC said:
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that NONE of the people who vanished in the end are dead right? They were most likely transported to an alternate realm in the Soul Stone. Remember that there are multiple alternate universes, which was heavily referenced in Dr. Strange. Recall when Dr. Strange first met the Ancient One, she sent him through a number of alternate universes.

We are likely to see a several step explanation over the upcoming movies before Avengers 4. Remember that one of the overriding themes in Ant Man will be the attempt to rescue Janet Pym from the quantum realm. I suspect that this will give clues to where those Thanos eliminated have gone.

Then, Captain Marvel will be introduced in her stand-alone movie. She might be the most powerful of them all in the end- maybe enough to stop Thanos.

Once that is set up, we likely have the events in place to rescue those Thanos eliminated and set up what has been promised to be "an ending" to the 10 year story by Marvel.



thats what i am saying which is why im surprised that people actually think they are dead
RE: You guys are aware  
Rory : 5/3/2018 2:43 pm : link
In comment 13952834 rich in DC said:
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that NONE of the people who vanished in the end are dead right? They were most likely transported to an alternate realm in the Soul Stone. Remember that there are multiple alternate universes, which was heavily referenced in Dr. Strange. Recall when Dr. Strange first met the Ancient One, she sent him through a number of alternate universes.

We are likely to see a several step explanation over the upcoming movies before Avengers 4. Remember that one of the overriding themes in Ant Man will be the attempt to rescue Janet Pym from the quantum realm. I suspect that this will give clues to where those Thanos eliminated have gone.

Then, Captain Marvel will be introduced in her stand-alone movie. She might be the most powerful of them all in the end- maybe enough to stop Thanos.

Once that is set up, we likely have the events in place to rescue those Thanos eliminated and set up what has been promised to be "an ending" to the 10 year story by Marvel.


I thought something like that too. An I'm willing to bet Strange will be the one fighting Thanos on the Astral plane in another movie. Not sure how that would play out
RE: Saw this last night, thought it was amazing  
RobCarpenter : 5/3/2018 4:11 pm : link
In comment 13952707 Rory said:
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Did MCU ever establish Thanos getting the Power stone from Nova Corps, if not that could be part of GOTG 3 (prequel?)
Which helps with the timeline

My prediction is its all about Iron man to battle and retrieve the gauntlet but will cost him greatly, hence why Strange saved him... It wont stop there though Thor will be summoned to battle Thanos and Hulk will re-emerge to save his friend not quite sure if they make it though. also not sure what to do about Cap but I'm sure it will be epic and heroic ending.

I could see Vision coming back in the Adam Warlock role, or Silver Surfer makes his debut. Great way to introduce the fantastic four in a new timeline of events.

Mrs. Marvel will be a 2 movies in 1. I think it will show her origin and her connection to Nick Fury. It will show her being the one to warn Nick Fury about what is to come (why he assembled the avengers) it will also show her return to earth (distress call) and align with Cap.


Based on the closing credits of GOTG 2 they seem poised to introduce Adam Warlock in GOTG 3.

I don't know what the future of the Fantastic Four/Silver Surfer is in the MCU, but Disney didn't have the rights when they made Avengers Infinity War 2.
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