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| Josh Rosen reclines in his metal chair on a semi-crowded Starbucks patio, tugging on the strings of his hooded Billabong sweatshirt as he talks about his problem. "Everyone hates me," Rosen declares, offering half a smile, but making it clear he isn't playing for laughs. Rosen, the former UCLA quarterback who is one of the top prospects in the 2018 draft, knows he carries a stigma that has followed him from social media posts to draft meetings in NFL facilities across America -- but that, in and of itself, isn't necessarily an insidious issue. The hyper-confident 21-year-old can live with being cast as a brash and cocky kid with a privileged background and sharp mind that sometimes veers beyond the confines of the football field. He's cool with the critics who crush him for expressing unpopular opinions or drawing attention to himself in ways that athletes, especially in his chosen sport, are strongly encouraged not to. He's got an edge, and it pisses some people off. He gets it. That is not the problem. Rather, it's the people who cast him as an aloof, cold-hearted jerk that make his head want to explode -- and who, on this overcast Orange County afternoon in late February, occupy his thoughts as he confesses to caring about his infected image, or at least one element of it. "I don't know, everyone kind of likes to be liked," Rosen says. "I don't really care as much about the media stuff, but what hurts me on the inside is when people will meet me, and I'll talk to them, and they'll be like, 'God. You aren't a dick!' Or, 'From what I understood, you're kind of an a-hole, but ...' I'm like, 'I don't know what to say to that.' "I try to be as good of a person as I can be. I try to be a generally kind person. I mean, if I was running for the presidency, I'd probably run a campaign on, 'Be kind.' It just kind of sucks -- my friends having to defend me to their friends. I mean, you can go around the UCLA campus and ask someone, 'What do you think of Josh Rosen?' and you can put your money on the fact that you're gonna get a bad response. That kind of stinks. I mean, it sucks." |
If he can't handle being called a dick then he shouldn't play in NY.
Millennial.
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"Tennis taught me a lot," he says. "I cracked a few racquets. I learned a lot about how to compete, how to get over things, how to deal with adversity. It's because you just have conversations with yourself in your head for hours on end, while you're on the court. It's illegal for your coach or parent to coach you during a match, so you just have to have a bunch of self-talk. I think that's valuable as a quarterback, when the whole world is picking at you, and you have to learn how to deal with your emotions, and put a play behind you and move forward."
When it comes to trash talk in his current sport, Rosen has proven to be an easy target. "I get a lot of Jewish things," Rosen says. "My nose, particularly. I get, like, 'Stay the f--- down, you Jewish bastard … I'm gonna break your f---- nose, you Jew.' "
Rosen's reaction? Keep it coming.
"I really like when people try to get in my head," he says. "I like away games more than home games. I like silencing crowds; that's a big thing. One of my best games was at Arizona my freshman year. It was College GameDay and they had a ton of banners; they had my face on the queen from 'Frozen'. They had, 'Josh Rosen's Bar Mitzvah Wasn't Even Lit.' When people really get into me, it gets my competitive juices flowing. I love seeing heartbroken fans. Some stadiums, the fans are really close to you, and they'll call you names: 'Rosen, go back to your hot tub.' And when you beat them and get to turn around and wave? It's the best."
If he can't handle being called a dick then he shouldn't play in NY.
Millennial.
Pass.
This has been my opinion for months and this cements it.
In Denver this kid could be a star. In San Diego he could be a star.
Even if he has a good heart, which I believe he does and nothing really makes me believe otherwise, New York chews up and spits out sensitive athletes like this, and even before being drafted potentially by a NY team he is showing a weakness that the media is going to exploit the hell out of. Also I think this kind of shows that there is some level of overcompensation with all of the social media stuff, like he is trying too hard to be liked.
It't not even so much that I just don't like the player, it's that I just don't think it would be fair to the kid to put him in this environment.
I know that I am maligned around here and a lot of it is my own doing, I get that, but I do happen to have an ability to look beyond the x's and o's to the bigger picture of what leads to success. I was right on JPP, and on Beckham it's trending towards negativity.
I firmly believe that Josh Rosen will be an All-Pro if he goes to a small market and a Ryan Leaf level bust if he goes to a NY type media market.
To me the big unknown is the concussions -- but iI agree with Sy et al that he is the #1 QB.
The question from this article -- as a person/teammate is he the Giants' cup of tea?? I would think DG yes. Maras????
To me the big unknown is the concussions -- but iI agree with Sy et al that he is the #1 QB.
The question from this article -- as a person/teammate is he the Giants' cup of tea?? I would think DG yes. Maras????
Brash is one thing. Strahan was Brash for about 3/4 of his career.
Overly sensitive to criticism is another. That is what I am worried about.
To me the big unknown is the concussions -- but iI agree with Sy et al that he is the #1 QB.
The question from this article -- as a person/teammate is he the Giants' cup of tea?? I would think DG yes. Maras????
I agree with you. Can't handle new York comments are just guys here digging for reasons to bash a kid they don't like. I'll take that over Darnolds lousy footwork and single read play.
Meanwhile Barkley is improving his razor sharp mental faculties by getting life lessons and playing chess against childhood idol and fellow future HOF Curtis Martin.
Meanwhile Barkley is improving his razor sharp mental faculties by getting life lessons and playing chess against childhood idol and fellow future HOF Curtis Martin.
The problem with Barkley is that he is a running back and a team like the Giants, who need a qb, shouldn't blow a number 2 pick on a fungible resource like a rb. Pass.
Then again, I'm not sure Aaron Rodgers ever really figured that out, and it hasn't seemed to hurt his play on the field. He's gonna find out that in the end the most important aspect of his legacy will be his play on the field, especially if he's so sure he's living a kind life off of it.
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Emotionally istraught sensitive snowflake hanging out at Starbucks drinking a $6 coffee. Pass.
Meanwhile Barkley is improving his razor sharp mental faculties by getting life lessons and playing chess against childhood idol and fellow future HOF Curtis Martin.
The problem with Barkley is that he is a running back and a team like the Giants, who need a qb, shouldn't blow a number 2 pick on a fungible resource like a rb. Pass.
A 4.4 40 30 225 bench reps 230 lb Marshall Faulk who runs like Barry Sanders and off the charts leadership is not a fungible asset.
Barry Sanders ran for 2,628 yards and 37 TDs at 7.6 YPC in 1988. Barkley isn't a pimple on Barry Sanders' ass.
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Emotionally istraught sensitive snowflake hanging out at Starbucks drinking a $6 coffee. Pass.
Meanwhile Barkley is improving his razor sharp mental faculties by getting life lessons and playing chess against childhood idol and fellow future HOF Curtis Martin.
The problem with Barkley is that he is a running back and a team like the Giants, who need a qb, shouldn't blow a number 2 pick on a fungible resource like a rb. Pass.
Agreed, completely. Of note, Martin was a third round pick. And while the Jets foolishly wasted a 1st round pick in signing him as an RFA, they didn't draft him in that spot.
Further, how many Super Bowl titles did Barkley's idol win? Oh, right. Zero. Meanwhile, a regular comparison for Rosen - Eli Manning - has won two. But hey, it will be awesome if Barkley rushes for 1800 yards and we miss the playoffs, right? Because that's what we're ultimately striving for, correct?
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Emotionally istraught sensitive snowflake hanging out at Starbucks drinking a $6 coffee. Pass.
Meanwhile Barkley is improving his razor sharp mental faculties by getting life lessons and playing chess against childhood idol and fellow future HOF Curtis Martin.
The problem with Barkley is that he is a running back and a team like the Giants, who need a qb, shouldn't blow a number 2 pick on a fungible resource like a rb. Pass.
Agreed, completely. Of note, Martin was a third round pick. And while the Jets foolishly wasted a 1st round pick in signing him as an RFA, they didn't draft him in that spot.
Further, how many Super Bowl titles did Barkley's idol win? Oh, right. Zero. Meanwhile, a regular comparison for Rosen - Eli Manning - has won two. But hey, it will be awesome if Barkley rushes for 1800 yards and we miss the playoffs, right? Because that's what we're ultimately striving for, correct?
This is the dumbest argument in sports. Marino and Kelly never won a Superbowl. If you knew one of these QBs would turn into the next Dan Marino or Jim Kelly, would you pass on them because they never won a Superbowl?
This just in - football is a team game. Championships are won by teams, not individuals.
I really don't want my quarterback preoccupied with the opponents' fans. I know that some players do this. But if he's thinking about the opposing fans when he's winning, it means he's thinking about them when he's losing, too. Just tune them out.
Barry Sanders ran for 2,628 yards and 37 TDs at 7.6 YPC in 1988. Barkley isn't a pimple on Barry Sanders' ass.
Stupid irrelevant Stat comparison from bygone Era of t-wing wishbone style offense is stupid and irrelevant.
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"I love seeing heartbroken fans. Some stadiums, the fans are really close to you, and they'll call you names: 'Rosen, go back to your hot tub.' And when you beat them and get to turn around and wave? It's the best."
I really don't want my quarterback preoccupied with the opponents' fans. I know that some players do this. But if he's thinking about the opposing fans when he's winning, it means he's thinking about them when he's losing, too. Just tune them out.
Meh, plenty of great players in all of sports played angry. Those are the most fun players to watch. Jordan lived to ruin peoples's nights. Jeter said he loved being booed by opposing fans.
Greg is totally correct here, the other side of this argument is idiotic
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"I love seeing heartbroken fans. Some stadiums, the fans are really close to you, and they'll call you names: 'Rosen, go back to your hot tub.' And when you beat them and get to turn around and wave? It's the best."
I really don't want my quarterback preoccupied with the opponents' fans. I know that some players do this. But if he's thinking about the opposing fans when he's winning, it means he's thinking about them when he's losing, too. Just tune them out.
Meh, plenty of great players in all of sports played angry. Those are the most fun players to watch. Jordan lived to ruin peoples's nights. Jeter said he loved being booed by opposing fans.
The remark was not about playing angry.
Complaining about millennials . . .
Which of the guys in this draft class are not, again?
If he can't handle being called a dick then he shouldn't play in NY.
Millennial.
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He's 21 years old for fucks sake. Jesus.