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Final Mock w/ Trade (Not that anyone cares)

QB Snacks : 4/23/2018 4:07 pm
2018 NFL Mock Draft
1) Cleveland Browns: A lot of information coming out about who the Browns will take here at 1. The only name I haven’t heard linked to them recently is Josh Rosen. That leaves Allen, Mayfield & Darnold. When there is smoke there is fire and a lot of the top draft guys are pushing the Josh Allen narrative. I think the Browns take him.

2) **Projected Trade** A lot of things worked against the Giants in terms of the trade market. Within the top six the Colts weren’t going to draft a QB, The Jets are an unlikely trade partner, The Broncos got Keenum making QB not a desperate need & the browns had two of the top six picks including the only pick ahead of the Giants. It really put the giants in a spot where trading down just a few slots wasn’t an option. The Browns taking Allen first overall could really help the Giants though. The “Haul” they would require to move outside of the top 6-7 becomes a reality with Darnold unexpectedly not going 1st overall.
The Giants receive the 12th, 22nd, 56th, 96th & 2019 1st rd pick.

The Bills in return take Sam Darnold

3) New York Jets Baker Mayfield
4) Cleveland Browns: Saquon Barkley
5) Denver Broncos: Quentin Nelson
6) Indianapolis Colts: Bradley Chubb
7) Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Derwin James
8) Chicago Bears Tremain Edmunds
9) San Francisco 49ers Mikah Fitzpatrick
10) Oakland Raiders Deznel Ward
11) Miami Dolphins Josh Rosen

12) New York Giants: The Giants will be looking at a few different options with this pick. Roquan Smith, Mike Mcglinchey, Josh Jackson, & Marcus Davenport would fill needs and represent the best value at the 12 pick. After moving back from 2 to 12 I think the Giants would elminiate Davenport from their thought process with too much of a boom or bust factor with him. CB & OL are deep positions in this draft and Smith has DROY potential. He seems like the safe pick and is a good fit from a cultural shift for the Giants. Roquan Smith is the selection

13) Washington Redskins Vita Vea
14) Green Bay Packers: Harold Landry
15) Arizona Cardinals: Lamar Jackson
16) Baltimore Ravens: Calvin Ridley
17) Los Angelos Chargers: Mike McGlinchey
18) Seattle Seahawks: Marcus Davenport
19) Dallas Cowboys DJ Moore
20) Detroit Lions Daron Payne
21) Cincinnati Bengals: James Daniels

22) New York Giants: The Giants went defense with their first pick and are back on the clock with a wide array of options. Only 1 corner has come off the board, there are good options on the OL, DL & at RB with Derrius Guice. The biggest needs on the team are OL & CB and those are both represented well here. In this case I believe the Giants would jump on the opportunity to upgrade their offense line. They would select Isiah Wynn.

23) New England Patriots: Jaire Alexander
24) Carolina Panthers: Ronnie Harrison
25) Tennessee Titans Sam Hubbard
26) Atlanta Falcons: Taven Bryan
27) New Orleans Saints Hayden Hurst
28) Pittsburgh Steelers Leighton Vander Esch
29) Jacksonville Jaguars Willie Hernandez
30) Minnesota Vikings: Billy Price
31) New England Patriots: Kolton Miller
32) Philadelphia Eagles Derrius Guice

Rest of Giants Draft
34th Sony Michel RB
56th Frank Ragnow C
66th Kemoko Turay OLB/DE
69th Duke Dawson CB
108 PJ Hall DL
139 Tony Brown CB

In the end our draft haul is

LB Roquan Smith
OT/OG Isiah Wynn
RB Sony Michel
OC Frank Ragnow
DE/OLB Kemoko Turay
CB Duke Dawson
WR Anthony Miller
DL PJ Hall
CB Tony Brown
Future 1st rd Pick.

Our running game should be vastly improved with the selection of Wynn, Ragnow & Michel. Both OL should start on day 1. Miller gives us another threat in the passing game. Smith and Turay give us a day 1 start at the LB position and a special teams/pass rushing specialist.
Dawson & Brown give us competition in the DB room/special teams and Hall is a guy to groom as the future NT.

IF the giants arent going QB I dont see how anyone could prefer staying put and taking a RB at #2 over this potential haul.
so you think the  
jvm52106 : 4/23/2018 4:11 pm : link
Giants would draft three players from Georgia in their first 3 picks?

I don't have a problem with trade but the pick selections not so much. Vita Vea would be a better option at 12 than Roquan based on the 3/4 hybrid we will be playing.
As for value and need  
LI NHB : 4/23/2018 4:13 pm : link
that draft is a thing of beauty.
RE: so you think the  
QB Snacks : 4/23/2018 4:13 pm : link
In comment 13926846 jvm52106 said:
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Giants would draft three players from Georgia in their first 3 picks?


LOL JVM, it didn't occur to me about that but it's not entirely impossible. All 3 represent major upgrades for the team.

Vea would certainly be a potential choice at 12.
Highly doubt NYG passes on Darnold..  
Sean : 4/23/2018 4:13 pm : link
No trade, Darnold or Barkley. Rosen is the sleeper.
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BleedBlue : 4/23/2018 4:16 pm : link
mmm, while i do like the haul, i really am not fond of moving from 2-12....thats a HUGE drop and imo the ammo isnt there for buffalo for me to feel good about it. now if they trade back to 4 THEN to 12, thats fine as that would add at least a second and third (from cleveland)

pretty good group of picks though.
A hundred times, NO  
JonC : 4/23/2018 4:18 pm : link
quality over quantity.
That draft plus a 2019 1st  
Chris684 : 4/23/2018 4:19 pm : link
would be a major win for the franchise.

Wynn will not be there for the 2nd round pick, but sub in a guy like James Daniels there and I have no complaints.
RE: A hundred times, NO  
QB Snacks : 4/23/2018 4:20 pm : link
In comment 13926864 JonC said:
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quality over quantity.


Who are you taking at #2? Darnold? If so, I have no problem with your feelings.

But if you're thinking Barkley I cant agree whatsoever.
RE: That draft plus a 2019 1st  
QB Snacks : 4/23/2018 4:20 pm : link
In comment 13926867 Chris684 said:
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would be a major win for the franchise.

Wynn will not be there for the 2nd round pick, but sub in a guy like James Daniels there and I have no complaints.


He was the 22nd overall pick. Not a second rd pick!
I'm picking Darnold  
JonC : 4/23/2018 4:22 pm : link
I'd prefer the edge rusher, but have no problem with it if they pick SB over Chubb. Thrilled with blue chip talent plugged into either side of the ball.
RE: I'm picking Darnold  
QB Snacks : 4/23/2018 4:24 pm : link
In comment 13926875 JonC said:
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I'd prefer the edge rusher, but have no problem with it if they pick SB over Chubb. Thrilled with blue chip talent plugged into either side of the ball.


Agree to disagree. Chubb/Darnold make sense to me to stay put and take.

But there is no RB in the NFL that isnt worth 2 first rd picks, a second rd pick and a third rd pick. They simply dont play long enough and arent cost effective.

Not to mention, gun to your head, barkley vs the field, i'm taking the field to produce at least 1 back who is more productive in his career then barkley.
RE: RE: I'm picking Darnold  
JonC : 4/23/2018 4:29 pm : link
In comment 13926878 QB Snacks said:
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In comment 13926875 JonC said:


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I'd prefer the edge rusher, but have no problem with it if they pick SB over Chubb. Thrilled with blue chip talent plugged into either side of the ball.



Agree to disagree. Chubb/Darnold make sense to me to stay put and take.

But there is no RB in the NFL that isnt worth 2 first rd picks, a second rd pick and a third rd pick. They simply dont play long enough and arent cost effective.

Not to mention, gun to your head, barkley vs the field, i'm taking the field to produce at least 1 back who is more productive in his career then barkley.


Not a horrible bet, but in SB's case I'll gladly take him and skip the two red chips and lower rounds prospects.
JonC  
QB Snacks : 4/23/2018 4:32 pm : link
That's what makes the draft fun. We really wont have our answers for a yr or two.

Here's to the giants making the right call, whatever they decide.
3 Bulldogs??  
GeorgeAdams33 : 4/23/2018 4:45 pm : link
Are you trying to make Ogletree comfortable?

Maybe Herschel Walker will be asked to announce the picks if you write the Giants a nice request letter.

Georgia must be the new Syracuse.....
QB Snacks  
Marty866b : 4/23/2018 4:52 pm : link
If your mock draft held true I would trade back up to get Rosen.
Darnold is a lock for Cleveland  
GFAN52 : 4/23/2018 4:55 pm : link
Barkley - Rosen - Chubb for the Giants.
RE: QB Snacks  
QB Snacks : 4/23/2018 5:01 pm : link
In comment 13926911 Marty866b said:
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If your mock draft held true I would trade back up to get Rosen.


Really interesting idea. Most of this was done with the idea that they're not interested in grabbing a QB this year.

But that would be great.
RE: Darnold is a lock for Cleveland  
mattyblue : 4/23/2018 5:03 pm : link
In comment 13926913 GFAN52 said:
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Barkley - Rosen - Chubb for the Giants.


Are you sure about that? I have no clue what Cle does at 1
QB Snacks...  
M.S. : 4/23/2018 5:14 pm : link

...interesting, well-thought out mock.

Don't be bummed out when the Giants stay at 2 and select Josh Rosen.

In that scenario with Rosen falling  
The Turk : 4/23/2018 5:25 pm : link
they would try to trade back up and get him between 8 - 11
Missing a Pick  
Bruner4329 : 4/23/2018 5:27 pm : link
How did we end up with Miller when he was not one of the picks?
RE: Missing a Pick  
QB Snacks : 4/23/2018 7:02 pm : link
In comment 13926957 Bruner4329 said:
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How did we end up with Miller when he was not one of the picks?


Left him out but in trade details we also got the 96th pick
Giants need talent with  
DonnieD89 : 4/23/2018 7:27 pm : link
their draft picks. Trading down to 12 and 22 increases the chances of missing the picks in this draft. Trade down to pick 5 or higher would be of safer and better value.
I don’t know enough to go deeper  
Bill L : 4/23/2018 7:39 pm : link
But so far, my entry is
1. Barkley
2. Price(Hernandez if Price is gone)
3a.Dylan Cantrell - bigger WR
3b Orlando Brown(a flyer on someone who drops)
4 Best CB (perhaps S) available
5 project OG
6 project DT
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