Does anyone know the latest asshat info?

The only one(s) seem to be that the NYG and Bills have an agreement in place to make a trade. How true it is I don't know, but its possible the trade hinges on who the Browns take at #1. So it could indeed be true, just not ever come to fruition under certain circumstances.

interested in this as well.

wants to get back in radio. Shhhh. It's classified information.

Stated that picks 1,2, and 3 would be QBs but he didn�t say who or if the Giants are still at 2.

said his guess is Darnold or Barkley depending on the Browns pick obviously.

Once we get that, we'll know.

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In comment 13926972 GiantsAlwaysAndForever said:

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Once we get that, we'll know.

JonC has always been a good source of info here.

this year than years past. Even the Browns at 1 there is no consensus. Still hoping Rosen is in play somehow for the Giants.

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I�d be very upset with this...

And won�t tell him until Wednesday night.

In comment 13926989 UberAlias said:

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And won�t tell him until Wednesday night.

Or when they are on the clock. But it's Darnold.

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And won�t tell him until Wednesday night.

Vontae Mack no matter what

likes Anicott Steel

According to NFL.com

That He believes Rosen is who the Giants are targeting. So, everyone can take that or discard that, but he believes that to be the case, so that at least seems noteworthy.

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Better not be at 2

Hitdog, peppers etc and JonC have been fairly consistent with that they are not hearing much to nothing.

Im not sure if JonC is now saying he is hearing something or not.

Hitdog said its the least he has ever heard.

To me that throws a lot of cold water on the media narrative.

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That He believes Rosen is who the Giants are targeting. So, everyone can take that or discard that, but he believes that to be the case, so that at least seems noteworthy.

Hoping so!

I have no idea why when someone who runs a draft website makes those statements it seems to get no traction in here. But so be it.

The trade tidbits are coming from Buffalos camp.....

There was a non confirm request by William Gay asking for #26 and was told it was reserved.

A 3 way trade with Buffalo, Cleveland and the Giants was also rumored.

Who knows what will happen.....

I hope Thursday night is entertaining and will last more than 10 min.

with a new regime, you have to wonder about the asshats contacts. New GM, new coach, many new assistants, new director of college scouting.

Right now - if the asshat's contact was a scout or one of the owners their info could be solid.

If their contact was media or agents, their info is no more reliable than what we would get on Twitter.

I'm reluctant to carry over grades on asshats from previous regimes. They all kind of have to earn their reputations as reliable asshats anew, imo.

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I have no idea why when someone who runs a draft website makes those statements it seems to get no traction in here. But so be it.

because its not what the majority of BBIers want to hear.

I agree with you. Its interesting.

There didnt seem to be that much a BBI reaction when Sy graded Rosen with his highest QB rating by far in 5 years.

a minor item I heard from a reliable source.

Vanderbilt OLB Oren Burks was taken to dinner by Giant coach(es) following his Pro Day and is on their board.

This is following the highest of recommendations from Vanderbilt QB Kyle Shurmur (our HC's son)

No question that Oren Burks is the All American boy. Very high character, outstanding student, team captain, etc.

I watched a few tapes, and to me his tackling skills are very average. Most sites consider him a 4th rounder.

In comment 13927007 George from PA said:

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The trade tidbits are coming from Buffalos camp..... There was a non confirm request by William Gay asking for #26 and was told it was reserved. A 3 way trade with Buffalo, Cleveland and the Giants was also rumored. Who knows what will happen..... I hope Thursday night is entertaining and will last more than 10 min.

The William Gay number thing reminds me of when Francesca said on air a rumor that there was a ton of New York Knicks LeBron orders shipped to NY for the day of announcement.

an interesting year for the draft. I have enjoyed most of the discussions with everyone and reading the arguments are always great. I somehow have �quit on Eli� because I would like the Giants to draft a QB lol.

If they draft a QB....they must have conviction.....

as the media has set it up as its
Eli vs. the new guy.

All hands on deck to win Eli another Lombardi

Or

Rebuild

I have no idea why anyone is speaking in absolutes. What I do know is - like TwoSteps said - this administration has been pretty good about keeping things on the DL. The Ogletree and JPP trades came out of nowhere. The media had no leads on who was the coaching favorite. Even Hitdog has said this is the least he has heard in years.

I'm on board with Rosen, and I hope Colin is right. I'm also not naive enough to believe that Barkley is - without a doubt - a smokescreen. I just can't believe that with the Giants coming off a 3-13 season, that the new administration would think we are in a position to draft a RB with the second overall pick.

Him and Hitdog are good sources.

In comment 13927037 George from PA said:

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If they draft a QB....they must have conviction..... as the media has set it up as its Eli vs. the new guy. All hands on deck to win Eli another Lombardi Or Rebuild

So you think a 3-13 team in one running back away from the Super Bowl? Seems like a stretch, I think they certainly will try to win, but I don�t know if we are contenders right now. Eli is experienced enough and mature enough to understand that time marches on. He will play until he gets pulled for a better option. Rodgers sat for 3 years.

believe Colin was really taking a guess, and not staying it as a definite. He is an awesome source of information. Love his sight and when he stops over here. I want Rosen but I haven�t heard any leaks from any of the informed guys that imply the Giants will take him.

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believe Colin was really taking a guess, and not staying it as a definite. He is an awesome source of information. Love his sight and when he stops over here. I want Rosen but I haven�t heard any leaks from any of the informed guys that imply the Giants will take him.

Absolutely correct. He acknowledged as much. He gleaned as much information as he could from his sources - which also said Darnold to the Browns despite all the Allen nonsense floating around at the time - and read the tea leaves, which involved the work we put into scouting the QBs and Mara flying across the county to have dinner with Rosen. But, as he said, there are never any certainties in the draft process, and those were his thoughts.

We have people parading around here as if it is a damn certainty that the Giants are passing on a QB. Could they? Sure. And I'm sure if they do, those people will come on here Thursday Night and say "I told you so". But right now those people don't know that the Giants don't want a QB. Or that the only QB they want is Darnold. Is it possible? Sure. But an absolute certainty? No. And I respect JonC and the others who have provided information in the past. This is not a knock against them.

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In comment 13927054 mattyblue said: Quote: believe Colin was really taking a guess, and not staying it as a definite. He is an awesome source of information. Love his sight and when he stops over here. I want Rosen but I haven�t heard any leaks from any of the informed guys that imply the Giants will take him. Absolutely correct. He acknowledged as much. He gleaned as much information as he could from his sources - which also said Darnold to the Browns despite all the Allen nonsense floating around at the time - and read the tea leaves, which involved the work we put into scouting the QBs and Mara flying across the county to have dinner with Rosen. But, as he said, there are never any certainties in the draft process, and those were his thoughts. We have people parading around here as if it is a damn certainty that the Giants are passing on a QB. Could they? Sure. And I'm sure if they do, those people will come on here Thursday Night and say "I told you so". But right now those people don't know that the Giants don't want a QB. Or that the only QB they want is Darnold. Is it possible? Sure. But an absolute certainty? No. And I respect JonC and the others who have provided information in the past. This is not a knock against them.

Just saw this tweet from Matt Miller which was particularly interesting to me given what Colin had heard:

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The late swing of information sending Josh Rosen to the Jets is interesting. Careful who you trust this time of year...but that pick does make a lot of sense for Bates' offense.
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has been pretty clear that his guess is Darnold/Chubb/Barkley. A few other posters have taken the Slade style and just post vague stuff and then disappear. But all in all you are totally correct

but Slade has said that Apple will be shopped along with Flowers during the draft.

as the season ended people were saying Darnold- Browns Rosen-Giants. Now with the media deciding that we are drafting Barkley I would have to assume the Jets would take Rosen, maybe Mayfield, but I think if they get that option they take Rosen. I am hoping the Giants don�t let them get that choice.

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But the Bills General Manager recently denied a report that the Giants and Bills have the framework in place for a trade. �I don�t get into that, but that�s not true,� Beane told One Bills Live, via Ryan Talbot of Yahoo. �I�m going to leave it at that.�

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/04/23/report-bills-unlikely-to-trade-up-to-no-2/ - ( New Window )

but I�m happy we�re not seeing leaks from inside the front office. I can wait until Thursday night

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but Slade has said that Apple will be shopped along with Flowers during the draft.

New sources

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New sources

Fwiw the color did not change with regards to free agency and the ability to dispel bogus rumors- but the draft as have mentioned - is a noticeable change

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Stated that picks 1,2, and 3 would be QBs but he didn�t say who or if the Giants are still at 2.

Sorry to leave you hanging Matty. I saw you and bceagle asked for me to elaborate but I didn't have the chance to respond. I since have but to save you a few clicks, whether NYG is there or not the consensus among the people I've talked with are saying they are expecting 3 QBs in the top 3..

In comment 13926989 UberAlias said:

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And won�t tell him until Wednesday night.

Won�t tell him even after the pick is made.

Much appreciated.

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In comment 13926989 UberAlias said: Quote: And won�t tell him until Wednesday night. Vontae Mack no matter what

Unless he�s eating his pancakes and thinking of moving #1.

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In comment 13926972 GiantsAlwaysAndForever said: Quote: Once we get that, we'll know. JonC has always been a good source of info here.

I keep hearing that, but I haven't seen it. No disrespect to the gentleman. But can you name me a time or two where he called something?

And I wear a hat. Does that count?

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In comment 13927064 Giants34 said: Quote: In comment 13927054 mattyblue said: Quote: believe Colin was really taking a guess, and not staying it as a definite. He is an awesome source of information. Love his sight and when he stops over here. I want Rosen but I haven�t heard any leaks from any of the informed guys that imply the Giants will take him. Absolutely correct. He acknowledged as much. He gleaned as much information as he could from his sources - which also said Darnold to the Browns despite all the Allen nonsense floating around at the time - and read the tea leaves, which involved the work we put into scouting the QBs and Mara flying across the county to have dinner with Rosen. But, as he said, there are never any certainties in the draft process, and those were his thoughts. We have people parading around here as if it is a damn certainty that the Giants are passing on a QB. Could they? Sure. And I'm sure if they do, those people will come on here Thursday Night and say "I told you so". But right now those people don't know that the Giants don't want a QB. Or that the only QB they want is Darnold. Is it possible? Sure. But an absolute certainty? No. And I respect JonC and the others who have provided information in the past. This is not a knock against them. Just saw this tweet from Matt Miller which was particularly interesting to me given what Colin had heard: Matt Miller ‏ Verified account @nfldraftscout Following Following @nfldraftscout More The late swing of information sending Josh Rosen to the Jets is interesting. Careful who you trust this time of year...but that pick does make a lot of sense for Bates' offense. Link - ( New Window )

This is my biggest fear:
DG passes on Rosen who goes on to become a top 5-10 QB with the Jets while the NYG toil in qb hell.

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In comment 13927147 Ivan15 said: Quote: New sources Fwiw the color did not change with regards to free agency and the ability to dispel bogus rumors- but the draft as have mentioned - is a noticeable change

Thanks so much for sharing, both you and Peppers. It certainly appears that there is a standoff between what Peppers and Colin (and the fact that Hitdog is hearing little) with JT Giants insisting on Chubb or Barkley. I guess we'll see who is right on Thursday. I think everyone knows where I stand at this point.

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In comment 13926967 mattyblue said: Quote: Stated that picks 1,2, and 3 would be QBs but he didn�t say who or if the Giants are still at 2. Sorry to leave you hanging Matty. I saw you and bceagle asked for me to elaborate but I didn't have the chance to respond. I since have but to save you a few clicks, whether NYG is there or not the consensus among the people I've talked with are saying they are expecting 3 QBs in the top 3..

The maximized value of our #2 pick is a QB considering how much teams are willing to pay for someone they envision as the field general of their team the next 10-15 years.

If we have decided to go non QB, our ideal scenario is to slight trade down with a team salivating for a QB and then get Barkley. Next would be one of the remaining blue chips in Chubb/Nelson.