Does anyone know the latest asshat info?

Peppers, JonC, and Hitdog always appreciated!

the know, that the Giants are going to select a player in the first round and also in subsequent rounds also.

just passing it along.

I trust JonC, who says it's probably either Barkley or Darnold depending on what Cleveland does.

In comment 13927425 Giants34 said:

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In comment 13927184 hitdog42 said: Quote: In comment 13927147 Ivan15 said: Quote: New sources Fwiw the color did not change with regards to free agency and the ability to dispel bogus rumors- but the draft as have mentioned - is a noticeable change Thanks so much for sharing, both you and Peppers. It certainly appears that there is a standoff between what Peppers and Colin (and the fact that Hitdog is hearing little) with JT Giants insisting on Chubb or Barkley. I guess we'll see who is right on Thursday. I think everyone knows where I stand at this point.

Nothing really substantial yet from NYG. Gettleman is keeping his cards close to his chest.. But there's a lot of time from now until Thursday night. Lets see if something slips through the cracks.

I've been fortunate in the past to hear many of our draft picks in the first two rounds and shared them here, buried in threads often during the draft itself. I'm the one who had the scoop on the trade up for Landon Collins, shared news of the interest in Flowers the first week of March before he was drafted, had Engram's name while on the clock last year, and other draft targets who were shortlisted among others as recent examples.

I had the interest in Barkley, Chubb, and Nelson a couple weeks before the beat began reporting it this year.

But, things are different this year, between the front office changes and my friends needing to also keep things close to the vest during this time of change.

Also, to be quite frank, a healthy portion of this forum doesn't deserve any scoops. Problems that run rampant in our society are out in the open here, I'll leave it at that.

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or hearing what I want to hear, but all of the reports are that the giants are being very hush and things are way quieter than years past. Yet, the one thing they’ve said is that they love Barkley and he’s a perfect prospect. Why make that known if you are clearly trying to keep things quiet? Maybe it’s just wishful thinking, but I still feel we go QB. All of the signs point towards qb, all of the words point towards Barkley.

They are all different. Skill sets, demeanor, injury history, off field stuff. Who fits NYG best?

The thing about Barkley is he seems to fit NYG. He is super clean on and off the field. You can say RB is not worth the 2nd pick but there is no consensus on 1 QB. I think Darnold is the best from a potential standpoint. He has a play making ability but with that has turned the ball over a lot.

Rosen seems to be most ready but to me may not be a fit with his personality.

I know Eli is getting up there in years. I think he can still play at a high level. I also understand the need to get his successor. The biggest question mark to me is Davis Webb. It should prevent NYG from drafting a better young prospect, but are any of them better?

Remember, there are layers to the scouting set up and the front office, it depends where the reporter is sourcing his info and when.

I don't doubt he's held in the utmost regard, but the value of a franchise QB cannot be overstated, especially picking in the rare spot of #2 overall. The question remains do they see one, word has not gotten out.

In comment 13927516 JonC said:

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You're slacking. You had one job to do!!!

Lol, but I think your diagnosis that Darnold 1 and Barkley 2 is pretty spot on.

But I have a suspicion the plan has been QB all along. The silence on the QBs is the giveaway. Consider why are the views on QBs such a guarded secret? Its not like we are hearing bad things, only silence.

When you look at the totality of the team and how far they are removed from '11, Eli being the last remaining starter from SB team, the end of the streak and all they went through last year, the hiring of a new Head coach, a New GM --it's just time for a clean start for the franchise. The choice in QB and OC with histories in grooming QBs is not a coincidence and not about "fixing" your 37 year old QB or making a run with him. That ship sailed a year ago when they came in with SB aspirations that culminated in a 3-win season. We saw the intention to develop Webb a year ago. They'll employ same strategy now, only with a QB of their choice.

When you take a step back from all the noise around the draft, this is the one logical narrative.

In comment 13927563 UberAlias said:

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But I have a suspicion the plan has been QB all along. The silence on the QBs is the giveaway. Consider why are the views on QBs such a guarded secret? Its not like we are hearing bad things, only silence. When you look at the totality of the team and how far they are removed from '11, Eli being the last remaining starter from SB team, the end of the streak and all they went through last year, the hiring of a new Head coach, a New GM --it's just time for a clean start for the franchise. The choice in QB and OC with histories in grooming QBs is not a coincidence and not about "fixing" your 37 year old QB or making a run with him. That ship sailed a year ago when they came in with SB aspirations that culminated in a 3-win season. We saw the intention to develop Webb a year ago. They'll employ same strategy now, only with a QB of their choice. When you take a step back from all the noise around the draft, this is the one logical narrative.

Unless they really have a hard on for a QB other than Darnold, I don’t buy it. I want Rosen, but other than reading about the attention he got at his pro day, nothing has been reported linking him to the NYG. All we see is it’s Darnold, who we likely won’t have a shot at, or Barkley/Chubb.

Yes, and that silence is exactly why it makes sense. They've sealed any info on the QBs air tight. Why is that?

In comment 13927513 JonC said:

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I've been fortunate in the past to hear many of our draft picks in the first two rounds and shared them here, buried in threads often during the draft itself. I'm the one who had the scoop on the trade up for Landon Collins, shared news of the interest in Flowers the first week of March before he was drafted, had Engram's name while on the clock last year, and other draft targets who were shortlisted among others as recent examples. I had the interest in Barkley, Chubb, and Nelson a couple weeks before the beat began reporting it this year. But, things are different this year, between the front office changes and my friends needing to also keep things close to the vest during this time of change. Also, to be quite frank, a healthy portion of this forum doesn't deserve any scoops. Problems that run rampant in our society are out in the open here, I'll leave it at that.

Thank you, brother. Hope you’re wrong about this year’s selection (I want a QB), but I appreciate the insight.

In comment 13927513 JonC said:

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I've been fortunate in the past to hear many of our draft picks in the first two rounds and shared them here, buried in threads often during the draft itself. I'm the one who had the scoop on the trade up for Landon Collins, shared news of the interest in Flowers the first week of March before he was drafted, had Engram's name while on the clock last year, and other draft targets who were shortlisted among others as recent examples. I had the interest in Barkley, Chubb, and Nelson a couple weeks before the beat began reporting it this year. But, things are different this year, between the front office changes and my friends needing to also keep things close to the vest during this time of change. Also, to be quite frank, a healthy portion of this forum doesn't deserve any scoops. Problems that run rampant in our society are out in the open here, I'll leave it at that.

I'll be one of the first to say thanks to you - and all the others - who share the scoops they hear. It's what makes this board fun.

In comment 13927513 JonC said:

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I've been fortunate in the past to hear many of our draft picks in the first two rounds and shared them here, buried in threads often during the draft itself. I'm the one who had the scoop on the trade up for Landon Collins, shared news of the interest in Flowers the first week of March before he was drafted, had Engram's name while on the clock last year, and other draft targets who were shortlisted among others as recent examples. I had the interest in Barkley, Chubb, and Nelson a couple weeks before the beat began reporting it this year. But, things are different this year, between the front office changes and my friends needing to also keep things close to the vest during this time of change. Also, to be quite frank, a healthy portion of this forum doesn't deserve any scoops. Problems that run rampant in our society are out in the open here, I'll leave it at that.

JonC, just know that I,along with much of BBI, am grateful with everything that you have shared. You are one of the bright spots of this site. Keep doing what you’re doing.

In comment 13927577 The_Boss said:

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In comment 13927563 UberAlias said: Quote: But I have a suspicion the plan has been QB all along. The silence on the QBs is the giveaway. Consider why are the views on QBs such a guarded secret? Its not like we are hearing bad things, only silence. When you look at the totality of the team and how far they are removed from '11, Eli being the last remaining starter from SB team, the end of the streak and all they went through last year, the hiring of a new Head coach, a New GM --it's just time for a clean start for the franchise. The choice in QB and OC with histories in grooming QBs is not a coincidence and not about "fixing" your 37 year old QB or making a run with him. That ship sailed a year ago when they came in with SB aspirations that culminated in a 3-win season. We saw the intention to develop Webb a year ago. They'll employ same strategy now, only with a QB of their choice. When you take a step back from all the noise around the draft, this is the one logical narrative. Unless they really have a hard on for a QB other than Darnold, I don’t buy it. I want Rosen, but other than reading about the attention he got at his pro day, nothing has been reported linking him to the NYG. All we see is it’s Darnold, who we likely won’t have a shot at, or Barkley/Chubb.

The owner flying across the country to have dinner with Rosen is a little bit of a link.

1. Ralph V cited a Giants source who told him the Giants liked Rosen best at Combine and then recently told him to not rule him out.

2. Colin cited a source saying the Browns think Giants/jets both want Rosen and are angling to get a trade.

3. Rosen is only one confirmed to have had dinner with Tisch and John Mara. Mara flew to California for Rosen dinner but maybe didnt attend Darnold? (We couldnt get Mara in building for Eli benching and Tisch only attended 1 HC interview)

4. Giants have had unusual amount of assets into Rosen. He had 2 2-day visits including dinner as mentioned with owners and dinner with coaching staff. he was in for private workout heavily attended. Giants had huge contingent at Pro Day and Gettleman interviewed at Combine.