I get he's a high school moron but this is what he does to woo the chick to the prom? Its not remotely witty or funny on any level and as pointed out, he's branded a racist forever. great job raising junior!
evidently this school has had a lot of racist behavior going on over the past few years and it's been ignored by the school system. It was even termed as a 'race war' going on at the school.
but compared to a more recent past, the racists that are here in the country have certainly made a comeback and become more emboldened and willing to take off the mask in the last few years.
A portion of the US seems to have decided to embrace
nowadays that goes onto the Internet and it'll be the first thing that comes up on web searches for his name for, well, probably forever.
The First Amendment protects his right to be an asshole. But it doesn't protect him from consequences for being an asshole, and he's probably going to feeling that blowback for years to come. A lot of people won't date him. Or hire him. Or have him for a roommate. Or patronize businesses where he works.
Yeah... agree with njm here... this has been America for a very long time.
Like Will Smith said (and I agree with)... there isn't MORE racism in America... it's just being videotaped for all to see now.
Do you think there is less racism today though?
Or just progress in small areas, but not much change?
That's a more difficult question... I'd like to think so... but it's hard to tell because with racism being caught on video much more often than it used to be. If you would've asked me this question 2 years ago... I probably would've definitively said yes. But as Filthy and Heisenberg said, it just seems like the racist people in this country are feeling much more embolden nowadays for some... uh... reason *grin*.
Yeah... agree with njm here... this has been America for a very long time.
Like Will Smith said (and I agree with)... there isn't MORE racism in America... it's just being videotaped for all to see now.
Agree with that Will Smith statement, but would go on to say that during my life that has been a decline in racism. And beyond race, there has been a decline in ethnic prejudice. When was the last time you heard a Polish or Italian joke? Or for that matter a joke about African-Americans? Maybe it's just the people I associate with, but it's been decades.
Yes, racism clearly still exists and some have been more openly expressing what they've been feeling for most of their lives. But in it's totality, the US is a less racist place than it was during my youth.
but compared to a more recent past, the racists that are here in the country have certainly made a comeback and become more emboldened and willing to take off the mask in the last few years.
I know we're venturing into no-no territory here... but I agree with you on this big time. It's extremely unsettling.
You may be right... you may be wrong. That's something that I think everyone may have a different opinion about and I don't see how anyone can say one opinion is right and the other wrong. There's no way to quantify something like that IMO. Even if you do feel like there's less racism in America today than in the past, how MUCH less? A little? A lot? Down by 10%? Down by 75%?
but compared to a more recent past, the racists that are here in the country have certainly made a comeback and become more emboldened and willing to take off the mask in the last few years.
I know we're venturing into no-no territory here... but I agree with you on this big time. It's extremely unsettling.
I don't know if this is true and I tend to believe if it is true it is it's not for the reasons being hinted at - though it is a convenient cop out.
It may seem true, but I'd like to see some non-opinion/fact based evidence if this is true if that's possible to even discern.
Hate crimes, which I know doesn't consider all racist incidents, were increasing in 2015 and 2016 but a lot of that could be a variety of factors, but clearly is not for the reason some would like for it to be or have hinted at.
From my perspective it seems with everything being on social media now versus in the past when incidents might go completely un or under reported, and the media in general realizing what sells, the spotlight is a lot brighter on these incidents as they occur (as maybe it should be), but I don't know if the statement is true or just what gets reported loudly or there is any correlation that people would "like".
You may be right... you may be wrong. That's something that I think everyone may have a different opinion about and I don't see how anyone can say one opinion is right and the other wrong. There's no way to quantify something like that IMO. Even if you do feel like there's less racism in America today than in the past, how MUCH less? A little? A lot? Down by 10%? Down by 75%?
See what I mean?
I think part of this might be different time horizons. I was in middle school when the civil rights legislation of the 60's was passed. No, I can't put a percentage on it, but there has been a significant decline.
You may be right... you may be wrong. That's something that I think everyone may have a different opinion about and I don't see how anyone can say one opinion is right and the other wrong. There's no way to quantify something like that IMO. Even if you do feel like there's less racism in America today than in the past, how MUCH less? A little? A lot? Down by 10%? Down by 75%?
See what I mean?
I think part of this might be different time horizons. I was in middle school when the civil rights legislation of the 60's was passed. No, I can't put a percentage on it, but there has been a significant decline.
Well like I said... you have a right to your opinion and I can't say with much confidence that you're right or wrong. I wasn't around back in the 60's so I'd defer to someone who was around back then but I can only tell you from my own personal experiences that it appears to about the same... if not worse... today than it was in what would be considered 'back in the day' (mid to late 70's through the 80's) for me. But I would tend to think that there are plenty of folks who were around back then who'd disagree with you.
I think people are also desensitized to the word racist more now
The media and twitter heroes are calling everyone they can a racist or a Nazi or a kkk member etc etc and rightfully so in some cases ..
But they also call completely non racist people and personalities racist etc for not agreeing etc with the agendas
So basically the real racists, whites etc get very confident because not only is everyone a racist these days in the eyes of their enemies but they feel safer as well because if they get called a racist they can always say it's fake news or a Soros setup . And they will get passes in some cases.
Calling someone a racist used to be very deep and insulting.
It's lost some of its zest and spice as a word lately due to its overuse in politically correct speech.
Just an observation, I don't wanna debate it, I could be totally wrong but that's what I've noticed is everyone calling each other racist while the real racists feel safer and more powerful
For work, I spent some time in Texas and every week I had to drive by this HS and always was shocked their school mascot was Cottonpickers. Link - ( New Window )
RE: I think people are also desensitized to the word racist more now
The media and twitter heroes are calling everyone they can a racist or a Nazi or a kkk member etc etc and rightfully so in some cases ..
But they also call completely non racist people and personalities racist etc for not agreeing etc with the agendas
So basically the real racists, whites etc get very confident because not only is everyone a racist these days in the eyes of their enemies but they feel safer as well because if they get called a racist they can always say it's fake news or a Soros setup . And they will get passes in some cases.
Calling someone a racist used to be very deep and insulting.
It's lost some of its zest and spice as a word lately due to its overuse in politically correct speech.
Just an observation, I don't wanna debate it, I could be totally wrong but that's what I've noticed is everyone calling each other racist while the real racists feel safer and more powerful
I don't think you're wrong and actually agree 100%. The word and claim gets thrown around waaaay too quickly and easily nowadays.
For work, I spent some time in Texas and every week I had to drive by this HS and always was shocked their school mascot was Cottonpickers. Link - ( New Window )
I'm almost afraid to ask but, what did their mascot look like? I don't see it on the linked page.
I grew up in the projects and I've earned the right to call them that, and I was constantly around racial issues. The guardian angels came and marched at my high school because of the racial riots and fights.
I saw a lot of ugliness, not like T-Bone or others may see, I'm not a minority I can really just see things from my lens, but i saw ugliness all around on all sides. And who knows, I hope not, but maybe I even subconsciously contributed to it. I don't think so, but like I said, I can only see things from my perspective though I always try and consider others.
These days it seems to me being branded a racist is a scarlet letter that is a career ender and life changer. People lose jobs, lose opportunities, and learn some very painful life lessons that IMO in 2018 hate and intolerance are not acceptable. Sure there are pockets or small groups that foster hate, but society has changed IMO.
And I'm not suggesting those consequences shouldn't be the case, but I believe there were times when that was not the case. And not too long ago.
With the access and exposure people have today, everything is on camera. Which is why I feel like it seems people may appear more emboldened, but I don't think they are. I think it's the opposite. White Supremacist rallies have 20 people and the counter protests have thousands. it's literally that one-sided - but they do bring all the media attention to the 20. Because it's the bogeyman people want to see.
I no longer live in the projects, I own a house in the suburbs, but it's still a semi-diverse community and I feel proud that my kids have a diverse group of friends and maybe I'm the naive one, but I believe in this generation MLK's dream has a chance. My kids, who are in their teens, truly I believe do judge people by the content of their character and not the color of their skin and I am proud of that.
I think the good FAR outweighs the bad in todays society, but the bad makes the news. Just like in the NFL, and other microcosms - arrests and negative incidents get the leads, but the players visiting sick kids or doing good tings get buried.
Anyway, sorry for the long post, don't care if its tl/dr just hate seeing stuff like this without believing it's small samples of the population, not a trend.
Just my opinion but I'd say nationwide we are definitely
a less racist country compared to when my parents were growing up. Younger generations tend to bring more tolerance with them, be it race related, accepting homosexuality, whatever. At some point a clear message was given that racism is not welcome in most areas of society so most of these fuckers got smart, shut their mouths in public and have spent the last couple of decades spewing hate towards the tv instead.
Recently though these folks have found some acceptance, protection, I don't know what it is but they have slowly built up the courage to come out of hiding and when they do they find their numbers are growing. It is not a good direction.
Doing my best to not make this political and I'm not singling out any particular administration, since this uprising spans multiple.
Guys, Ben McAdoo ended racism when he started Geno.
The media and twitter heroes are calling everyone they can a racist or a Nazi or a kkk member etc etc and rightfully so in some cases ..
But they also call completely non racist people and personalities racist etc for not agreeing etc with the agendas
So basically the real racists, whites etc get very confident because not only is everyone a racist these days in the eyes of their enemies but they feel safer as well because if they get called a racist they can always say it's fake news or a Soros setup . And they will get passes in some cases.
Calling someone a racist used to be very deep and insulting.
It's lost some of its zest and spice as a word lately due to its overuse in politically correct speech.
Just an observation, I don't wanna debate it, I could be totally wrong but that's what I've noticed is everyone calling each other racist while the real racists feel safer and more powerful
I don't think you're wrong and actually agree 100%. The word and claim gets thrown around waaaay too quickly and easily nowadays.
I agree the racist label gets overused and many times without just cause, but I disagree people are desensitized to it. If they weren't this story wouldn't be viral.
I cannot think of many things you can accuse someone of in today's society worse than being racist. Can you?
It's the hierarchy of evil: murder, child molester, rapist, then racist. what else is worse? domestic violence? kidnapping?
ESPN removed a reporter from a UVA/VT game whose name was Robert Lee b/c that might be confused with Robert E Lee and be viewed as racist. Granted it was right after the Charlottesville incident, but get a grip. People are more evolved than that I'd hope.
the guy is Asian.
WTF? If that doesn't signal to you that people take this seriously (too seriously in that case), not sure what will.
T-bone i was thinking the same thing about the tx high school
I think you can acknowledge that the Robert Lee thing was excessive and not necessary but still believe that some of these hate groups have made themselves more visible recently than maybe they were for a time before that.
Like I said - I can't "prove" anything - it's my perception just like everyone else has theirs. All I know is that cars at train stations near me weren't covered in KKK flyers up until semi-recently.
Whether racism is more widespread or not, no one can debate that it still exists and is still an issue here and probably will be for as long as we live.
That doesn't give people the right to throw the label around to those who don't deserve it. But I don't think we should just be dismissive of it or call people overreactive simply because perhaps some areas aren't quite as bad as they were before.
It's still a pretty significant issue if you ask me.
For work, I spent some time in Texas and every week I had to drive by this HS and always was shocked their school mascot was Cottonpickers. Link - ( New Window )
I'm almost afraid to ask but, what did their mascot look like? I don't see it on the linked page.
Had to investigate it.
A hispanic community that well, picks cotton. Their symbol is 2 cotton stems. They can't understand why anyone would think it offensive. They are proud of the fact. Interestingly enough, a minority community that is proud of themselves. School looks like it's a good one academically. 13 to 1 student/teacher ratio. Link - ( New Window )
I keep hearing that racist is thrown around too much these days
These days it seems to me being branded a racist is a scarlet letter that is a career ender and life changer. People lose jobs, lose opportunities, and learn some very painful life lessons that IMO in 2018 hate and intolerance are not acceptable.
I'd say in some... maybe even most cases more likely... that may be true... but not even close to all cases. I can't say what I want to say but I'll just say that there are people who have been labeled as such and yet are still doing quite well for themselves.
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With the access and exposure people have today, everything is on camera. Which is why I feel like it seems people may appear more emboldened, but I don't think they are. I think it's the opposite. White Supremacist rallies have 20 people and the counter protests have thousands. it's literally that one-sided - but they do bring all the media attention to the 20. Because it's the bogeyman people want to see.
The event that happened in Charlottesville a few months ago had a few hundred people attend it. I've seen reports of how the KKK and other racist organizations are actually growing in numbers now. What happened in Charlottesville wasn't between only a few dozen racist men vs a few thousand people on the other side.
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I no longer live in the projects, I own a house in the suburbs, but it's still a semi-diverse community and I feel proud that my kids have a diverse group of friends and maybe I'm the naive one, but I believe in this generation MLK's dream has a chance. My kids, who are in their teens, truly I believe do judge people by the content of their character and not the color of their skin and I am proud of that.
I guess we'll see. I'm not as hopeful as I once was to be honest. Racism is a learned behavior and it appears to continue to be passed down from generation to generation. I saw a video yesterday of a fraternity getting kicked off Syracuse U's campus because a racist video popped up (and this one wasn't just against blacks either). I saw another video yesterday where a young white woman has been kicked out of her sorority for what she said in a video. I've seen videos where whole busfulls of kids are chanting the word 'Nigger' with joy.
I don't know buddy... I hope you're right that maybe this next generation will get things right... but, like I said, I'm not as hopeful as I was just a few years ago.
RE: RE: RE: Robstown, TX High School Cottonpickers
For work, I spent some time in Texas and every week I had to drive by this HS and always was shocked their school mascot was Cottonpickers. Link - ( New Window )
I'm almost afraid to ask but, what did their mascot look like? I don't see it on the linked page.
Had to investigate it.
A hispanic community that well, picks cotton. Their symbol is 2 cotton stems. They can't understand why anyone would think it offensive. They are proud of the fact. Interestingly enough, a minority community that is proud of themselves. School looks like it's a good one academically. 13 to 1 student/teacher ratio. Link - ( New Window )
Thank you ctc.
I personally don't have an issue with that name considering what or who they are referring to. They have a reason to be proud of that name... most black folks though, probably wouldn't. There's a difference there.
at a major school for a semester, you will learn racists are still prominent and aren't separated by socioeconomic background, intelligence levels, or, even in fact, RACE itself.
RE: RE: RE: Robstown, TX High School Cottonpickers
For work, I spent some time in Texas and every week I had to drive by this HS and always was shocked their school mascot was Cottonpickers. Link - ( New Window )
I'm almost afraid to ask but, what did their mascot look like? I don't see it on the linked page.
Had to investigate it.
A hispanic community that well, picks cotton. Their symbol is 2 cotton stems. They can't understand why anyone would think it offensive. They are proud of the fact. Interestingly enough, a minority community that is proud of themselves. School looks like it's a good one academically. 13 to 1 student/teacher ratio. Link - ( New Window )
That is correct, it is either 2 cotton stems or just one cotton stem with a big red R in the middle (which is the one mostly decorating their school fences, sports fields and most of the logos for the school.
Great BBQ in the area and the people are very proud of their heritage. Speaking to people in the area, they feel proud of it and won't bend to public pressure to change it.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Robstown, TX High School Cottonpickers
For work, I spent some time in Texas and every week I had to drive by this HS and always was shocked their school mascot was Cottonpickers. Link - ( New Window )
I'm almost afraid to ask but, what did their mascot look like? I don't see it on the linked page.
Had to investigate it.
A hispanic community that well, picks cotton. Their symbol is 2 cotton stems. They can't understand why anyone would think it offensive. They are proud of the fact. Interestingly enough, a minority community that is proud of themselves. School looks like it's a good one academically. 13 to 1 student/teacher ratio. Link - ( New Window )
Thank you ctc.
I personally don't have an issue with that name considering what or who they are referring to. They have a reason to be proud of that name... most black folks though, probably wouldn't. There's a difference there.
Oh I understand completely. Why I looked into it.
I am so glad I have taught my kids to be very cautious what they post
But here, I don't even understand how that is supposed to be funny.
I am a big believer in human nature never changing, ever. Certain things may be more or less acceptable to say out loud, but I don't think people privately think in much less of a racially conscious way than they did 50 or 60 years ago. And that goes for all people of all races and backgrounds. And I don't think it will ever change, either.
Oh well... back to life I guess...
I hope you're being sarcastic
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I hope you're being sarcastic
Yeah... agree with njm here... this has been America for a very long time.
Like Will Smith said (and I agree with)... there isn't MORE racism in America... it's just being videotaped for all to see now.
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America, 2018.
I hope you're being sarcastic
Yeah... agree with njm here... this has been America for a very long time.
Like Will Smith said (and I agree with)... there isn't MORE racism in America... it's just being videotaped for all to see now.
Do you think there is less racism today though?
Or just progress in small areas, but not much change?
The First Amendment protects his right to be an asshole. But it doesn't protect him from consequences for being an asshole, and he's probably going to feeling that blowback for years to come. A lot of people won't date him. Or hire him. Or have him for a roommate. Or patronize businesses where he works.
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America, 2018.
I hope you're being sarcastic
Yeah... agree with njm here... this has been America for a very long time.
Like Will Smith said (and I agree with)... there isn't MORE racism in America... it's just being videotaped for all to see now.
Do you think there is less racism today though?
Or just progress in small areas, but not much change?
That's a more difficult question... I'd like to think so... but it's hard to tell because with racism being caught on video much more often than it used to be. If you would've asked me this question 2 years ago... I probably would've definitively said yes. But as Filthy and Heisenberg said, it just seems like the racist people in this country are feeling much more embolden nowadays for some... uh... reason *grin*.
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America, 2018.
I hope you're being sarcastic
Yeah... agree with njm here... this has been America for a very long time.
Like Will Smith said (and I agree with)... there isn't MORE racism in America... it's just being videotaped for all to see now.
Agree with that Will Smith statement, but would go on to say that during my life that has been a decline in racism. And beyond race, there has been a decline in ethnic prejudice. When was the last time you heard a Polish or Italian joke? Or for that matter a joke about African-Americans? Maybe it's just the people I associate with, but it's been decades.
Yes, racism clearly still exists and some have been more openly expressing what they've been feeling for most of their lives. But in it's totality, the US is a less racist place than it was during my youth.
I know we're venturing into no-no territory here... but I agree with you on this big time. It's extremely unsettling.
See what I mean?
Rover could probably zero in on a number for you.
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America, 2018.
I hope you're being sarcastic
Yeah... agree with njm here... this has been America for a very long time.
Like Will Smith said (and I agree with)... there isn't MORE racism in America... it's just being videotaped for all to see now.
The racists have been given a permission slip.
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but compared to a more recent past, the racists that are here in the country have certainly made a comeback and become more emboldened and willing to take off the mask in the last few years.
I know we're venturing into no-no territory here... but I agree with you on this big time. It's extremely unsettling.
I don't know if this is true and I tend to believe if it is true it is it's not for the reasons being hinted at - though it is a convenient cop out.
It may seem true, but I'd like to see some non-opinion/fact based evidence if this is true if that's possible to even discern.
Hate crimes, which I know doesn't consider all racist incidents, were increasing in 2015 and 2016 but a lot of that could be a variety of factors, but clearly is not for the reason some would like for it to be or have hinted at.
From my perspective it seems with everything being on social media now versus in the past when incidents might go completely un or under reported, and the media in general realizing what sells, the spotlight is a lot brighter on these incidents as they occur (as maybe it should be), but I don't know if the statement is true or just what gets reported loudly or there is any correlation that people would "like".
As it should and I hope does.
I'll also say that events like what we saw in Charlottesville seem to be more widespread now than perhaps they were before.
I don't think it's all "fake news" or propaganda or stuff driven by social media.
But I really can't go deeper into this because it'll just turn political and the thread will get deleted.
I don't think it's crazy to suggest that perhaps some of these people feel like they have more of a platform now than they had before.
I can't pull out hard numbers that are going to prove my perception one way or another. It's just what I feel I've seen.
See what I mean?
I think part of this might be different time horizons. I was in middle school when the civil rights legislation of the 60's was passed. No, I can't put a percentage on it, but there has been a significant decline.
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You may be right... you may be wrong. That's something that I think everyone may have a different opinion about and I don't see how anyone can say one opinion is right and the other wrong. There's no way to quantify something like that IMO. Even if you do feel like there's less racism in America today than in the past, how MUCH less? A little? A lot? Down by 10%? Down by 75%?
See what I mean?
I think part of this might be different time horizons. I was in middle school when the civil rights legislation of the 60's was passed. No, I can't put a percentage on it, but there has been a significant decline.
Well like I said... you have a right to your opinion and I can't say with much confidence that you're right or wrong. I wasn't around back in the 60's so I'd defer to someone who was around back then but I can only tell you from my own personal experiences that it appears to about the same... if not worse... today than it was in what would be considered 'back in the day' (mid to late 70's through the 80's) for me. But I would tend to think that there are plenty of folks who were around back then who'd disagree with you.
But they also call completely non racist people and personalities racist etc for not agreeing etc with the agendas
So basically the real racists, whites etc get very confident because not only is everyone a racist these days in the eyes of their enemies but they feel safer as well because if they get called a racist they can always say it's fake news or a Soros setup . And they will get passes in some cases.
Calling someone a racist used to be very deep and insulting.
It's lost some of its zest and spice as a word lately due to its overuse in politically correct speech.
Just an observation, I don't wanna debate it, I could be totally wrong but that's what I've noticed is everyone calling each other racist while the real racists feel safer and more powerful
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But they also call completely non racist people and personalities racist etc for not agreeing etc with the agendas
So basically the real racists, whites etc get very confident because not only is everyone a racist these days in the eyes of their enemies but they feel safer as well because if they get called a racist they can always say it's fake news or a Soros setup . And they will get passes in some cases.
Calling someone a racist used to be very deep and insulting.
It's lost some of its zest and spice as a word lately due to its overuse in politically correct speech.
Just an observation, I don't wanna debate it, I could be totally wrong but that's what I've noticed is everyone calling each other racist while the real racists feel safer and more powerful
I don't think you're wrong and actually agree 100%. The word and claim gets thrown around waaaay too quickly and easily nowadays.
Won't speak for anyone else but I saw no problem with it.
I'm almost afraid to ask but, what did their mascot look like? I don't see it on the linked page.
I saw a lot of ugliness, not like T-Bone or others may see, I'm not a minority I can really just see things from my lens, but i saw ugliness all around on all sides. And who knows, I hope not, but maybe I even subconsciously contributed to it. I don't think so, but like I said, I can only see things from my perspective though I always try and consider others.
These days it seems to me being branded a racist is a scarlet letter that is a career ender and life changer. People lose jobs, lose opportunities, and learn some very painful life lessons that IMO in 2018 hate and intolerance are not acceptable. Sure there are pockets or small groups that foster hate, but society has changed IMO.
And I'm not suggesting those consequences shouldn't be the case, but I believe there were times when that was not the case. And not too long ago.
With the access and exposure people have today, everything is on camera. Which is why I feel like it seems people may appear more emboldened, but I don't think they are. I think it's the opposite. White Supremacist rallies have 20 people and the counter protests have thousands. it's literally that one-sided - but they do bring all the media attention to the 20. Because it's the bogeyman people want to see.
I no longer live in the projects, I own a house in the suburbs, but it's still a semi-diverse community and I feel proud that my kids have a diverse group of friends and maybe I'm the naive one, but I believe in this generation MLK's dream has a chance. My kids, who are in their teens, truly I believe do judge people by the content of their character and not the color of their skin and I am proud of that.
I think the good FAR outweighs the bad in todays society, but the bad makes the news. Just like in the NFL, and other microcosms - arrests and negative incidents get the leads, but the players visiting sick kids or doing good tings get buried.
Anyway, sorry for the long post, don't care if its tl/dr just hate seeing stuff like this without believing it's small samples of the population, not a trend.
Recently though these folks have found some acceptance, protection, I don't know what it is but they have slowly built up the courage to come out of hiding and when they do they find their numbers are growing. It is not a good direction.
Doing my best to not make this political and I'm not singling out any particular administration, since this uprising spans multiple.
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The media and twitter heroes are calling everyone they can a racist or a Nazi or a kkk member etc etc and rightfully so in some cases ..
But they also call completely non racist people and personalities racist etc for not agreeing etc with the agendas
So basically the real racists, whites etc get very confident because not only is everyone a racist these days in the eyes of their enemies but they feel safer as well because if they get called a racist they can always say it's fake news or a Soros setup . And they will get passes in some cases.
Calling someone a racist used to be very deep and insulting.
It's lost some of its zest and spice as a word lately due to its overuse in politically correct speech.
Just an observation, I don't wanna debate it, I could be totally wrong but that's what I've noticed is everyone calling each other racist while the real racists feel safer and more powerful
I don't think you're wrong and actually agree 100%. The word and claim gets thrown around waaaay too quickly and easily nowadays.
I agree the racist label gets overused and many times without just cause, but I disagree people are desensitized to it. If they weren't this story wouldn't be viral.
I cannot think of many things you can accuse someone of in today's society worse than being racist. Can you?
It's the hierarchy of evil: murder, child molester, rapist, then racist. what else is worse? domestic violence? kidnapping?
ESPN removed a reporter from a UVA/VT game whose name was Robert Lee b/c that might be confused with Robert E Lee and be viewed as racist. Granted it was right after the Charlottesville incident, but get a grip. People are more evolved than that I'd hope.
the guy is Asian.
WTF? If that doesn't signal to you that people take this seriously (too seriously in that case), not sure what will.
Like I said - I can't "prove" anything - it's my perception just like everyone else has theirs. All I know is that cars at train stations near me weren't covered in KKK flyers up until semi-recently.
Whether racism is more widespread or not, no one can debate that it still exists and is still an issue here and probably will be for as long as we live.
That doesn't give people the right to throw the label around to those who don't deserve it. But I don't think we should just be dismissive of it or call people overreactive simply because perhaps some areas aren't quite as bad as they were before.
It's still a pretty significant issue if you ask me.
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For work, I spent some time in Texas and every week I had to drive by this HS and always was shocked their school mascot was Cottonpickers. Link - ( New Window )
I'm almost afraid to ask but, what did their mascot look like? I don't see it on the linked page.
Had to investigate it.
A hispanic community that well, picks cotton. Their symbol is 2 cotton stems. They can't understand why anyone would think it offensive. They are proud of the fact. Interestingly enough, a minority community that is proud of themselves. School looks like it's a good one academically. 13 to 1 student/teacher ratio.
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I'd say in some... maybe even most cases more likely... that may be true... but not even close to all cases. I can't say what I want to say but I'll just say that there are people who have been labeled as such and yet are still doing quite well for themselves.
The event that happened in Charlottesville a few months ago had a few hundred people attend it. I've seen reports of how the KKK and other racist organizations are actually growing in numbers now. What happened in Charlottesville wasn't between only a few dozen racist men vs a few thousand people on the other side.
I guess we'll see. I'm not as hopeful as I once was to be honest. Racism is a learned behavior and it appears to continue to be passed down from generation to generation. I saw a video yesterday of a fraternity getting kicked off Syracuse U's campus because a racist video popped up (and this one wasn't just against blacks either). I saw another video yesterday where a young white woman has been kicked out of her sorority for what she said in a video. I've seen videos where whole busfulls of kids are chanting the word 'Nigger' with joy.
I don't know buddy... I hope you're right that maybe this next generation will get things right... but, like I said, I'm not as hopeful as I was just a few years ago.
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For work, I spent some time in Texas and every week I had to drive by this HS and always was shocked their school mascot was Cottonpickers. Link - ( New Window )
I'm almost afraid to ask but, what did their mascot look like? I don't see it on the linked page.
Had to investigate it.
A hispanic community that well, picks cotton. Their symbol is 2 cotton stems. They can't understand why anyone would think it offensive. They are proud of the fact. Interestingly enough, a minority community that is proud of themselves. School looks like it's a good one academically. 13 to 1 student/teacher ratio. Link - ( New Window )
Thank you ctc.
I personally don't have an issue with that name considering what or who they are referring to. They have a reason to be proud of that name... most black folks though, probably wouldn't. There's a difference there.
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For work, I spent some time in Texas and every week I had to drive by this HS and always was shocked their school mascot was Cottonpickers. Link - ( New Window )
I'm almost afraid to ask but, what did their mascot look like? I don't see it on the linked page.
Had to investigate it.
A hispanic community that well, picks cotton. Their symbol is 2 cotton stems. They can't understand why anyone would think it offensive. They are proud of the fact. Interestingly enough, a minority community that is proud of themselves. School looks like it's a good one academically. 13 to 1 student/teacher ratio. Link - ( New Window )
That is correct, it is either 2 cotton stems or just one cotton stem with a big red R in the middle (which is the one mostly decorating their school fences, sports fields and most of the logos for the school.
Great BBQ in the area and the people are very proud of their heritage. Speaking to people in the area, they feel proud of it and won't bend to public pressure to change it.
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For work, I spent some time in Texas and every week I had to drive by this HS and always was shocked their school mascot was Cottonpickers. Link - ( New Window )
I'm almost afraid to ask but, what did their mascot look like? I don't see it on the linked page.
Had to investigate it.
A hispanic community that well, picks cotton. Their symbol is 2 cotton stems. They can't understand why anyone would think it offensive. They are proud of the fact. Interestingly enough, a minority community that is proud of themselves. School looks like it's a good one academically. 13 to 1 student/teacher ratio. Link - ( New Window )
Thank you ctc.
I personally don't have an issue with that name considering what or who they are referring to. They have a reason to be proud of that name... most black folks though, probably wouldn't. There's a difference there.
Oh I understand completely. Why I looked into it.
College
Dating
Career
Every one of those aspects he has not just hindered for himself
But here, I don't even understand how that is supposed to be funny.
I am a big believer in human nature never changing, ever. Certain things may be more or less acceptable to say out loud, but I don't think people privately think in much less of a racially conscious way than they did 50 or 60 years ago. And that goes for all people of all races and backgrounds. And I don't think it will ever change, either.