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NFT: Champions League: Liverpool vs. Roma first leg FS1

Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 4/24/2018 2:24 pm
The Salah Derby. Should be interesting. Roma confirmed playing a back 3 despite most English pundits predictions they wouldn't.
I am fired up.  
Heisenberg : 4/24/2018 2:29 pm : link
anfield will be rocking
Rooting for the Reds...  
bw in dc : 4/24/2018 2:35 pm : link
Hopefully they don't have a hangover from the lackluster second half they played Saturday against West Brom.
I have the over  
Giants in 07 : 4/24/2018 2:37 pm : link
So look for a 1-0.
All the attention is on Salah, and rightfully so,  
Go Terps : 4/24/2018 2:44 pm : link
but Edin Dzeko is one of my favorite strikers in Europe. I think this guy is in the same class as Suarez, Lewandowski, etc. Does everything, works hard, elevates those around him. He's a real danger man in this tie, and his partnership with Schick could give Liverpool some problems.

I think Roma is the better, more organized team here. If they can get out of Anfield with a draw or a 1-0 defeat I think they're in good shape.
Come on you  
Kevin in Annapolis : 4/24/2018 2:44 pm : link
Reds!
Very nervous  
Joey in VA : 4/24/2018 2:45 pm : link
And very excited to see old Jurgen pulls out today
Interesting decision to go with a back 3 for Roma  
moespree : 4/24/2018 2:45 pm : link
They switched to a back 3 to defeat Barcelona, but Liverpool is more physical, and press unlike anything they saw with Barcelona. Also it is very limited the amount of times they have done it. They played a 4-3-3 for most of their games this season.

If I had to guess, and it's only a guess the aim to is trap Salah on the flanks and keep him out of the box, forcing either Mane or Firmino to beat them. BUT, Liverpool overlaps their fullbacks which is going to create an overload for Liverpool in this scenario. So we'll see I guess.
Wow so no Schick  
Go Terps : 4/24/2018 2:48 pm : link
Roma making their intentions clear.
Roma back line looking disorganized  
Go Terps : 4/24/2018 2:51 pm : link
If they don't get their shit together quickly and slow this pace down it'll be 1-0 soon.
Shit. doesn't look good for Ox.  
Heisenberg : 4/24/2018 3:00 pm : link
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Ox is hurt, looks like bad knee injury  
Kevin in Annapolis : 4/24/2018 3:02 pm : link
Gini coming on.
Roma off the  
Kevin in Annapolis : 4/24/2018 3:04 pm : link
bar
Woodwork!  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 4/24/2018 3:05 pm : link
Kolarov, but Dzeko causing problems.
Roma playing well  
moespree : 4/24/2018 3:07 pm : link
Their strategy is working so far. Liverpool having trouble maintaining possession.
Liverpool had a window in the first ten minutes  
Go Terps : 4/24/2018 3:11 pm : link
Roma was really disorganized...the Firmino offsides was a warning sign. Since about the 15 minute mark Roma has cleaned it up.
Yellow for  
Kevin in Annapolis : 4/24/2018 3:12 pm : link
Juan Jesus
Roma have the better of it so far  
George : 4/24/2018 3:13 pm : link
But that means nothing. Juventus outplayed Madrid for the first 65 minutes of their first leg game in Turin a couple of weeks ago and lost 0-3. so there you go.
Wow  
Go Terps : 4/24/2018 3:14 pm : link
Put that away Mane.
Mane should  
Kevin in Annapolis : 4/24/2018 3:14 pm : link
have scored
wow, second  
Kevin in Annapolis : 4/24/2018 3:15 pm : link
one was worse. Liverpool getting close.
Much better for Liverpool  
moespree : 4/24/2018 3:16 pm : link
Roma on their heels.
Liverpool having success bypassing midfield  
Go Terps : 4/24/2018 3:16 pm : link
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Mane, in particular, is looking very rushed when he has the ball.  
Heisenberg : 4/24/2018 3:18 pm : link
but the chances are there.
Agreed Klopp has made the adjustment  
moespree : 4/24/2018 3:19 pm : link
Roma came out playing narrow and clogging the midfield. Liverpool going down the flanks now. Big time danger territory for Roma. I don't think they have the pace to keep up with Liverpool on the flanks for 90 minutes.
Liverpool  
Kevin in Annapolis : 4/24/2018 3:19 pm : link
goal ruled back, offsides
Mané having a rough night so far  
George : 4/24/2018 3:19 pm : link
That means he'll bag a brace in the second half.
Mane  
Kevin in Annapolis : 4/24/2018 3:20 pm : link
way off on that one
fucking salah  
Heisenberg : 4/24/2018 3:20 pm : link
of course
Mo!!!!!  
Kevin in Annapolis : 4/24/2018 3:21 pm : link
!
That was coming  
Go Terps : 4/24/2018 3:21 pm : link
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He is so good  
moespree : 4/24/2018 3:21 pm : link
So, so good.
Wow Salah  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 4/24/2018 3:21 pm : link
Just on fire. I thought that was a foul on Dzeko, but it was coming.
That shot  
Kevin in Annapolis : 4/24/2018 3:22 pm : link
was perfect
Enormous gap between Roma defense and midfield  
Go Terps : 4/24/2018 3:23 pm : link
Resulting in giveaways and Liverpool winning every second ball after a long ball clearance by Roma.

Also, what a fucking shot by Salah. Inch perfect.
wow  
Kevin in Annapolis : 4/24/2018 3:23 pm : link
off the bar!
oooohhh lovren.  
Heisenberg : 4/24/2018 3:23 pm : link
so close
Roma needs halftime  
Go Terps : 4/24/2018 3:23 pm : link
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Another one for  
Kevin in Annapolis : 4/24/2018 3:24 pm : link
Liverpool before the break would be huge
TAA  
Kevin in Annapolis : 4/24/2018 3:25 pm : link
gets a yellow
Is De Rossi even playing?  
Go Terps : 4/24/2018 3:29 pm : link
He, Strootman, Nainggolan, and Under have been poor in possession and invisible in defense. Roma needs a change of shape in the second half. Remove Under in favor of Schick, play a 5-3-2.
Boom  
Kevin in Annapolis : 4/24/2018 3:30 pm : link
Mo!!!
Where the fuck is De Rossi  
Go Terps : 4/24/2018 3:31 pm : link
?
The difference between Salah and Mane all year in one half.  
Heisenberg : 4/24/2018 3:32 pm : link
Salah so fucking composed.
Can't play  
Kevin in Annapolis : 4/24/2018 3:32 pm : link
this high of a line against LFC
Roma came out with a plan  
moespree : 4/24/2018 3:36 pm : link
To clog the midfield and trap Salah. Liverpool adjusted in the first 20 minutes and started clearing the ball down the flanks and using the long ball. This made the clog midfield plan pointless. Roma has not adjusted yet.

The 3 man at the back tactic is puzzling to me as well. Liverpool presses like crazy people. It's bizarre to me why you'd play 3 at the back and try to keep the rest of the team with a high line. There's no outlets for the 3 at the back who are being pressed and closed down.

I see no reason to think Liverpool won't score again and possibly multiple times if Roma doesn't change it up in the 2nd half.
Unrelated to this match  
Go Terps : 4/24/2018 3:36 pm : link
One of Barcelona's board members apparently implied that the board may not be happy with Ernesto Valverde, and that they may dismiss him after the season. That would be incredible considering the season they've had despite having their worst squad in a decade.
Salah:  
UESBLUE : 4/24/2018 3:39 pm : link
Chelsea and Mourinho made a big mistake.
You could probably field  
moespree : 4/24/2018 3:42 pm : link
A Champions League winning team with all the players Mourinho has either sold or misused.
Second half  
Kevin in Annapolis : 4/24/2018 3:49 pm : link
Schick on for Under for Roma
Roma already looking better with the change  
Go Terps : 4/24/2018 3:57 pm : link
They only need a goal to completely change the tie.
RE: Unrelated to this match  
bw in dc : 4/24/2018 3:59 pm : link
In comment 13928804 Go Terps said:
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One of Barcelona's board members apparently implied that the board may not be happy with Ernesto Valverde, and that they may dismiss him after the season. That would be incredible considering the season they've had despite having their worst squad in a decade.


Saw that last night on the "Lockerroom" on BEIN.

No Neymar, no problem. Two trophies, with La Liga title.

I guess the thought of Madrid wining a third straight UEFA championship may be the ultimate driver...
Finally Mane with a beauty. Chances all day.  
Heisenberg : 4/24/2018 3:59 pm : link
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Brutal defending  
Go Terps : 4/24/2018 4:00 pm : link
Total disorganization.
3-0  
Kevin in Annapolis : 4/24/2018 4:00 pm : link
Mane
Laying down the hammer...  
bw in dc : 4/24/2018 4:00 pm : link
Liverpool!
the big three all on the scoresheet!  
Heisenberg : 4/24/2018 4:04 pm : link
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4-0  
Kevin in Annapolis : 4/24/2018 4:04 pm : link
madness
I think Salah involved in all 4 goals too  
Heisenberg : 4/24/2018 4:05 pm : link
incredible player
Mo with  
Kevin in Annapolis : 4/24/2018 4:06 pm : link
2 goal and 2 assists. The space Roma are allowing Liverpool is crazy.
Identical to the previous goal  
Go Terps : 4/24/2018 4:06 pm : link
Midfield absent, Kolarov steps up and leaves the most in form player in Europe alone.

The complete no show from the Roma midfield can not be overstated. Roma are playing with 8 men.
Wow  
Kevin in Annapolis : 4/24/2018 4:11 pm : link
5-0
this is nuts  
Heisenberg : 4/24/2018 4:11 pm : link
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This game, at 5-0, suddenly looks like  
George : 4/24/2018 4:11 pm : link
your typical Super Bowl.
Impressive as ever  
Kyle in NY : 4/24/2018 4:12 pm : link
from the Liverpool front three. Salah is a magician.

But this is some of the worst defending, at this level, that I've ever seen
RE: Identical to the previous goal  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 4/24/2018 4:21 pm : link
In comment 13928855 Go Terps said:
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Midfield absent, Kolarov steps up and leaves the most in form player in Europe alone.

The complete no show from the Roma midfield can not be overstated. Roma are playing with 8 men.


I think Naiggolan is really overrated and worthless in big games. They should have played 5 at the back because Liverpool's speed is just too much. Nothing like that in Italy.
5-0 is great but a Clean sheet would make this lead near  
Heisenberg : 4/24/2018 4:21 pm : link
insurmountable.
RE: 5-0 is great but a Clean sheet would make this lead near  
Heisenberg : 4/24/2018 4:24 pm : link
In comment 13928878 Heisenberg said:
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insurmountable.


and there goes that idea
Ugh  
Kevin in Annapolis : 4/24/2018 4:25 pm : link
Big goal for Dzeko
Roma  
Kevin in Annapolis : 4/24/2018 4:27 pm : link
PK, not over yet
5-2  
Kevin in Annapolis : 4/24/2018 4:28 pm : link
2 big away goals here
Klopp substituted and LFC went into cruise control  
Heisenberg : 4/24/2018 4:29 pm : link
and Roma has capitalized.
Shocker...good things happen when you get Dzeko the ball  
Go Terps : 4/24/2018 4:30 pm : link
In Rome I'd be sending him and Schenk long ball after long ball. Bypass Liverpool's press.
4  
Kevin in Annapolis : 4/24/2018 4:33 pm : link
minutes
Final  
Kevin in Annapolis : 4/24/2018 4:37 pm : link
5-2. Liverpool still firmly in control of this tie, but they did make things more difficult on themselves.
The Liverpool season in one game  
Heisenberg : 4/24/2018 4:39 pm : link
Brilliant offense followed by some real head scratching lapses on defense.

I would have signed on for 5-2 at the beginning of the game though.
Oddly  
George : 4/24/2018 4:39 pm : link
Roma will probably go home after losing by 3 and think, "Hey, we can do this!" Particularly after having beaten Barca two weeks ago under similar circumstances.
RE: The Liverpool season in one game  
bw in dc : 4/24/2018 4:44 pm : link
In comment 13928904 Heisenberg said:
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Brilliant offense followed by some real head scratching lapses on defense.

I would have signed on for 5-2 at the beginning of the game though.


Agreed. See the West Brom game this past Saturday. Frankly, they had a similar type season with Rodgers when the finished second in 2013-14. That team was a mchine too with Suarez, Sturridge, Sterling. They really gave the season away to Chelsea.
Lovren  
Joey in VA : 4/24/2018 4:54 pm : link
Kills me sometimes, just kills me
I think Liverpool will be fine even with the 2 away goals  
moespree : 4/24/2018 9:20 pm : link
Because I don't see any scenario at all where Roma can keep them scoreless. They are not suddenly going to be able to stop them and keep up with their speed in only 1 week. Now, I don't think Liverpool will score 5 but I wouldn't be surprised if they scored at least 2 away goals too.
Bayern up 1-0 on Madrid  
Go Terps : 4/25/2018 3:16 pm : link
Kimmich taking advantage of Marcelo's aggressiveness.
Bayern up 1-0  
Kevin in Annapolis : 4/25/2018 3:19 pm : link
but have lost Robben and may lose Boateng
RE: Bayern up 1-0  
Kevin in Annapolis : 4/25/2018 3:20 pm : link
In comment 13931037 Kevin in Annapolis said:
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but have lost Robben and may lose Boateng

to injury I should add
Marcelo....BOOM  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 4/25/2018 3:31 pm : link
1-1.
Great hit  
Kevin in Annapolis : 4/25/2018 3:31 pm : link
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Fucking Madrid  
Go Terps : 4/25/2018 3:33 pm : link
They can look like shit and still get goals. Their effort level is inconsistent, which is why Barcelona has dominated over the long league calendar, but in a tournament setting with the away goals rule Real Madrid is a bitch to deal with.
Madrid should be down...  
bw in dc : 4/25/2018 3:39 pm : link
3-1, at least.
They take their chances so well  
Kyle in NY : 4/25/2018 3:54 pm : link
Run of play is in Bayern's favor but they squander chances and Real takes advantage of the first one they get. It's impressive
RE: Bayern up 1-0  
Kyle in NY : 4/25/2018 3:55 pm : link
In comment 13931037 Kevin in Annapolis said:
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but have lost Robben and may lose Boateng


Every injury taking on extra meaning with the World Cup 50 days away. Feel terrible for Oxlade Chamberlain, ruled out for England after his injury last night
Kyle  
Go Terps : 4/25/2018 3:59 pm : link
Yup. That's why I was happy to see Barcelona go out, and am rooting for Bayern here. I'm dreading seeing Isco suffer a bad injury.

One thing to keep in mind about Real Madrid is they've been vulnerable at the Bernabeu this season. Bayern can go there and get a result...if I were Heynckes I'd focus on locking this match down and not conceding again. If I get another goal, great...but I'm not letting Real score again.
And right there is what could not happen  
Go Terps : 4/25/2018 4:01 pm : link
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One mistake - make them pay  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 4/25/2018 4:02 pm : link
Asensio is pretty good.
Damn, ruthless  
Kyle in NY : 4/25/2018 4:04 pm : link
Got to imagine Neuer stops that one if he's in. Too bad
The Isco-Asensio partnership is the future for Real and Spain  
Go Terps : 4/25/2018 4:05 pm : link
Each as an opposite footed winger cutting inside. Isco is a legit candidate to win the Golden Boot in Russia.

And at the other end, Ribery has wasted a few gilt-edged chances.
Bayern has just been too wasteful  
Go Terps : 4/25/2018 4:13 pm : link
This has the feel of 3-1 or 4-1 with Cristiano grabbing his typical icing on the cake goal.
RE: The Isco-Asensio partnership is the future for Real and Spain  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 4/25/2018 4:19 pm : link
In comment 13931193 Go Terps said:
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Each as an opposite footed winger cutting inside. Isco is a legit candidate to win the Golden Boot in Russia.

And at the other end, Ribery has wasted a few gilt-edged chances.


Isco has Ballon D'Or potential, just is not on the right club team
This has been a really entertaining game to watch  
Giants in 07 : 4/25/2018 4:27 pm : link
Hoping for an equalizer.
Lewandowski has been for shit  
Go Terps : 4/25/2018 4:36 pm : link
Maybe he's too concerned with playing for Real Madrid instead of against them.

I can't understand this guy...you're playing for Bayern Munich, maybe the best run sports organization in the entire world, located in one of the most beautiful places in the world. Why would you be itching to leave for the zoo that is Real Madrid? If I were a professional footballer I don't know that there's a club I'd rather play for than Bayern.
RE: Lewandowski has been for shit  
Kyle in NY : 4/25/2018 4:41 pm : link
In comment 13931274 Go Terps said:
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Maybe he's too concerned with playing for Real Madrid instead of against them.

I can't understand this guy...you're playing for Bayern Munich, maybe the best run sports organization in the entire world, located in one of the most beautiful places in the world. Why would you be itching to leave for the zoo that is Real Madrid? If I were a professional footballer I don't know that there's a club I'd rather play for than Bayern.


Money. Can't imagine any other reason.

How the hell did Real Madrid win that match?

And Real Madrid may be a zoo  
Kyle in NY : 4/25/2018 4:47 pm : link
but there's no denying the success in this competition. Champions League is the final trophy for Lewandowski to win.
All true  
Go Terps : 4/25/2018 4:48 pm : link
Gotta be fair.
RE: RE: Lewandowski has been for shit  
Big Rick in FL : 4/25/2018 4:57 pm : link
In comment 13931286 Kyle in NY said:
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In comment 13931274 Go Terps said:


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Maybe he's too concerned with playing for Real Madrid instead of against them.

I can't understand this guy...you're playing for Bayern Munich, maybe the best run sports organization in the entire world, located in one of the most beautiful places in the world. Why would you be itching to leave for the zoo that is Real Madrid? If I were a professional footballer I don't know that there's a club I'd rather play for than Bayern.



Money. Can't imagine any other reason.

How the hell did Real Madrid win that match?


Can't imagine any other reason? How about them going for their 9th trophy in 2 1/2 years under Zidane? Oh and looking to 3peat in the UCL after becoming the first team to win back to back trophies in the UCL? Maybe that's why? Just throwing it out there.

Terps come on now. Real Madrid isn't a zoo at this point and it hasn't been under Zizou.

Lewandowski makes 225k a week at Bayern. Ramos makes 200k a week at Madrid. He isn't coming in and topping the captain.
Big Rick  
Go Terps : 4/25/2018 5:01 pm : link
Zidane is year to year there. If they don't win the Champions League he might not be the manager next year. It's crazy to say, but it's the truth. As long as Florentino Perez is there, it's a zoo.

And it's not like Bayern isn't winning trophies either.
I know Real Madrid may not feel this way,  
Go Terps : 4/25/2018 5:03 pm : link
but the Liga trophy is still a bigger trophy than the UCL. As is the EPL trophy, and the Bundesliga trophy.

The league is fundamentally the best indicator of who the best teams are. This year, it's unquestionably been Barcelona, Man City, and Bayern in whatever order you want to put them in.
The Champions League makes for great viewing this time of year,  
Go Terps : 4/25/2018 5:07 pm : link
but as a tournament the format is kind of a joke. The skids are greased for the same teams to be there more or less every year. I think it would mean more and be more interesting if it reflected its actual name and only allowed the champions of each league. I think it used to be that, more or less, back in the day. But when the money gets big you do what you have to to ensure the Reals and Man Us of the world get in.
RE: Big Rick  
Big Rick in FL : 4/25/2018 5:07 pm : link
In comment 13931336 Go Terps said:
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Zidane is year to year there. If they don't win the Champions League he might not be the manager next year. It's crazy to say, but it's the truth. As long as Florentino Perez is there, it's a zoo.

And it's not like Bayern isn't winning trophies either.


I really think Perez has calmed down or changed his ways at least partially. He's stayed a few times it's up to Zizou when he wants to leave. He's also been much much better on the transfer market. Hasn't brought in any big names in a few years. This year he needs to, but it's out of necessity as opposed to just buying guys for the sake of buying guys.

Bayern is in a one team league though. That shit has to get boring. They just said today Bayern only has 3 home losses in their last 44 UCL games. All 3 to Madrid. Lewy is getting older. He wants a Champions League.
I disagree that the leagues are bigger  
Big Rick in FL : 4/25/2018 5:10 pm : link
I think the teams you listed do to. Bayern would trade a UCL for a Bundesliga trophy all day. Barca board is pissed at Valverde for going out to Roma. If the league was bigger then Valverde wouldn't be at odds with Barca's board.
That's because the Barcelona board is filled with fools  
Go Terps : 4/25/2018 5:13 pm : link
Gonna be good days ahead for Real fans...Messi, Busquets, and Ter Stegen are papering over the cracks but anything happens to one of them and Barcelona falls off a cliff.

The Champions League is bigger for marketing, the league titles tell you who the best teams are.
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