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NFT: Twins (8-9) @ Yankees (12-9) - Tuesday - 4/24/18 - 6:35p ET

Ace718 : 4/24/2018 5:05 pm
In an absurd move, Walker is playing 1B today ad Austin is on the bench. Keep in mind that Austin will start serving his sentence soon so it makes no sense to get him out of the lineup when he's hitting.

On another note, Boone said Romine will catch tomorrow with Gray on the mound. Not sure if it's a permanent switch to Romine catching Gray.

Yankees Lineup

Gardner LF
Judge RF
Didi SS
Stanton DH
Sanchez C
Hicks CF
Walker 1B
Andujar 3B
Torres 2B

Sabathia P
Romine move  
kash94 : 4/24/2018 5:10 pm : link
makes sense until Gray can rebound. Austin move makes 0 sense. Strange. Only thing I can think of us they want to give Walker one more look before Drury is ready to rejoin the lineup as they may need to let him go to get room...?
Analytics  
Pete44 : 4/24/2018 5:11 pm : link
The Yankees analytics department makes these lineup decisions, that is why Girardi is gone.
Berrios on the bump for Minny.  
bceagle05 : 4/24/2018 5:12 pm : link
Nice challenge for our suddenly-surging lineup.
Austin sits because he can't hit power righties at all  
Greg from LI : 4/24/2018 5:14 pm : link
And that's exactly what Berrios is
RE: Austin sits because he can't hit power righties at all  
Justlurking : 4/24/2018 5:21 pm : link
In comment 13928978 Greg from LI said:
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And that's exactly what Berrios is


RHB hitting less than .100 against him. He also homered off an OF yesterday so we should chillax a bit on Austin. That said, Neil better start hitting or he should be gone soon.
Maybe  
mitch300 : 4/24/2018 5:29 pm : link
Austin is starting his suspension?
What Would a Game Thread Be...  
Jim in Tampa : 4/24/2018 5:45 pm : link
Without a poster questioning the lineup?
What do people think is Andujar's ceiling?  
NoGainDayne : 4/24/2018 6:00 pm : link
Obviously a lot of baseball to be played but he reminds me a little of Vlad Guererro. Free swinging, plate coverage, high bat speed. Big arm, although from a different position and weaker in general on defense.

I get that we didn't start as hot as the Sox but this team is so exciting to follow. Andujar is hitting like this and he isn't even the most anticipated call up this year (Torres) AND even IF he puts up the 30 HR 100 RBI season that people are starting to anticipate he still is probably the 3rd most valuable home grown batter 25 or under on this team. All this while having extra-base hits in seven consecutive games before turning 24 only joined by Mantle and DiMaggio.

The Bronx Bombers indeed.
Wonder when  
Jay in Toronto : 4/24/2018 6:04 pm : link
Andujar will be moved up?
anyone know why the game is starting at 635 vs normal 705?  
CGiants07 : 4/24/2018 7:07 pm : link
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GARY with a BOMB!!!  
Dave in Hoboken : 4/24/2018 7:09 pm : link
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Hicks walks.  
Dave in Hoboken : 4/24/2018 7:10 pm : link
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Sanchino goes oppo to tie it at 1  
mfsd : 4/24/2018 7:12 pm : link
Giving Walker some burn is no biggie right now...he needs some ABs to see if he can either get going or play himself off the team. As others posted, good pitcher to sit Austin and start Walker tonight
Neil Walker  
GruningsOnTheHill : 4/24/2018 7:13 pm : link
Why is this banjo-hitting dreckpiece still seeing ABs? Let's get Toe or the new kid in there.
RE: Neil Walker  
section125 : 4/24/2018 7:26 pm : link
In comment 13929113 GruningsOnTheHill said:
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Why is this banjo-hitting dreckpiece still seeing ABs? Let's get Toe or the new kid in there.


Berrios is a very tough pitcher on righties. BTW, Walker is a pretty decent player. Not everyone can be an All Star.
Judge is a machine  
Greg from LI : 4/24/2018 7:35 pm : link
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Doubt anyone predicted Didi would be leading MLB in RBIs  
mfsd : 4/24/2018 7:36 pm : link
at this point...but this inning is exactly why. Comes up with either Gardner or Judge or both on base almost every time up it seems
How is Judge so good?  
Dave in Hoboken : 4/24/2018 7:37 pm : link
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Stanton  
bubba0825 : 4/24/2018 7:37 pm : link
Has struck out twice in 6 pitches. Needs to slow his approach
RE: Stanton  
BigBlueJ : 4/24/2018 7:39 pm : link
In comment 13929146 bubba0825 said:
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Has struck out twice in 6 pitches. Needs to slow his approach

I am sorry but he is brutal to watch.
Thhat Stanton at bat was his worst Ive seen  
UConn4523 : 4/24/2018 7:40 pm : link
since being a Yankee. Brutal.
RE: RE: Stanton  
mfsd : 4/24/2018 7:41 pm : link
In comment 13929154 BigBlueJ said:
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Has struck out twice in 6 pitches. Needs to slow his approach


I am sorry but he is brutal to watch.


He went 4-4 with a 435 foot HR last night.

I respect were all fans here (I think) who have a right to our opinions, but some of you guys can be pretty absurd sometimes.
Yeah he will be fine  
UConn4523 : 4/24/2018 7:43 pm : link
I enjoy watching him, just that AB with the pitcher on the ropes and only 1 out with Gary heating up behind you....horrendous AB.
RE: Thhat Stanton at bat was his worst Ive seen  
section125 : 4/24/2018 7:44 pm : link
In comment 13929156 UConn4523 said:
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since being a Yankee. Brutal.


His bad at bats are bad. Can't say any are any worse than the others. He has a very weird looking swing.
RE: Yeah he will be fine  
mfsd : 4/24/2018 7:45 pm : link
In comment 13929161 UConn4523 said:
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I enjoy watching him, just that AB with the pitcher on the ropes and only 1 out with Gary heating up behind you....horrendous AB.


Oh that AB was lousy, no doubt, but overall hes looked pretty good the last week or so.

Great play by Torres!!  
mfsd : 4/24/2018 7:47 pm : link
Love this kid
Torres hurt something on  
section125 : 4/24/2018 7:48 pm : link
that tag. Hoping it was just his funny bone the way he landed.
RE: RE: Yeah he will be fine  
BigBlueShock : 4/24/2018 7:51 pm : link
In comment 13929163 mfsd said:
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I enjoy watching him, just that AB with the pitcher on the ropes and only 1 out with Gary heating up behind you....horrendous AB.



Oh that AB was lousy, no doubt, but overall hes looked pretty good the last week or so.

Oh stop it. Some Yankees fans need someone to hate and boo. Its apparently a right of passage. Im not talking about UCONN, hes a good fan, but the booing at the stadium is downright embarrassing. I swear most of the fans that boo are the same senile shit stains that call into radio shows like Francesa. I mean, what exactly are they accomplishing by booing? Besides making themselves look like the idiots they are? You think a player will try harder? I just dont get it I guess...
RE: RE: RE: Stanton  
BigBlueJ : 4/24/2018 7:55 pm : link
In comment 13929158 mfsd said:
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Has struck out twice in 6 pitches. Needs to slow his approach


I am sorry but he is brutal to watch.



He went 4-4 with a 435 foot HR last night.

I respect were all fans here (I think) who have a right to our opinions, but some of you guys can be pretty absurd sometimes.


Your response is as brutal as his swing. He has been a Yank a couple of months, some of us have been fans for decades. Regardless of his output, which has been ok, his approach is jarring. He is like leading the MLB in strickouts.
It was more the situation for me  
UConn4523 : 4/24/2018 7:56 pm : link
a decent AB to put the ball in play or draw a walk with Berrios on the ropes would have been all that was needed. His swings were basically he opposite of last night.

Its a nitpick, admittedly.
RE: RE: RE: Yeah he will be fine  
mfsd : 4/24/2018 7:57 pm : link
In comment 13929177 BigBlueShock said:
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I enjoy watching him, just that AB with the pitcher on the ropes and only 1 out with Gary heating up behind you....horrendous AB.



Oh that AB was lousy, no doubt, but overall hes looked pretty good the last week or so.



Oh stop it. Some Yankees fans need someone to hate and boo. Its apparently a right of passage. Im not talking about UCONN, hes a good fan, but the booing at the stadium is downright embarrassing. I swear most of the fans that boo are the same senile shit stains that call into radio shows like Francesa. I mean, what exactly are they accomplishing by booing? Besides making themselves look like the idiots they are? You think a player will try harder? I just dont get it I guess...


Not sure if youre replying to my post intentionally, but I couldnt agree more - Ive never booed one of our guys at the stadium, I agree its embarrassing that it happens.

Thats why I commented on the previous post tonight - Stanton had one of his best games as a Yankee last night, but after a couple bad ABs tonight some people break out the pitchforks for him all over again.

RE: RE: RE: RE: Stanton  
mfsd : 4/24/2018 7:58 pm : link
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Has struck out twice in 6 pitches. Needs to slow his approach


I am sorry but he is brutal to watch.



He went 4-4 with a 435 foot HR last night.

I respect were all fans here (I think) who have a right to our opinions, but some of you guys can be pretty absurd sometimes.



Your response is as brutal as his swing. He has been a Yank a couple of months, some of us have been fans for decades. Regardless of his output, which has been ok, his approach is jarring. He is like leading the MLB in strickouts.


Been a fan for decades myself, which includes seeing a lot of Stanton before this season too. Hes off to an up and down start, but some of you dont hesitate to whine and boo after every bad AB
Great AB by Torres  
section125 : 4/24/2018 7:59 pm : link
for the RBI single....
That Gleyber knock was Jeterian.  
bceagle05 : 4/24/2018 8:04 pm : link
Settling in nicely.
Not a fan of the booing.  
section125 : 4/24/2018 8:05 pm : link
Guy was NL MVP with 59 HRs. It is not like they picked up some mediocre player. I'm certain he is just a bit off but playing as hard as he can.

Be patient. He'll have many prime ABs this season.
So what's Chris Carter up to?  
bceagle05 : 4/24/2018 8:07 pm : link
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RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Stanton  
BigBlueJ : 4/24/2018 8:10 pm : link
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Has struck out twice in 6 pitches. Needs to slow his approach


I am sorry but he is brutal to watch.



He went 4-4 with a 435 foot HR last night.

I respect were all fans here (I think) who have a right to our opinions, but some of you guys can be pretty absurd sometimes.



Your response is as brutal as his swing. He has been a Yank a couple of months, some of us have been fans for decades. Regardless of his output, which has been ok, his approach is jarring. He is like leading the MLB in strickouts.



Been a fan for decades myself, which includes seeing a lot of Stanton before this season too. Hes off to an up and down start, but some of you dont hesitate to whine and boo after every bad AB


Agreed, I don't think you will find many of those type of fans on this board. But I have no problem with making critique observations among the guys.
Nice inning for CC  
UConn4523 : 4/24/2018 8:18 pm : link
would love him to get through 6
Brilliant  
BigBlueJ : 4/24/2018 8:18 pm : link
!!
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mfsd : 4/24/2018 8:18 pm : link
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Has struck out twice in 6 pitches. Needs to slow his approach


I am sorry but he is brutal to watch.



He went 4-4 with a 435 foot HR last night.

I respect were all fans here (I think) who have a right to our opinions, but some of you guys can be pretty absurd sometimes.



Your response is as brutal as his swing. He has been a Yank a couple of months, some of us have been fans for decades. Regardless of his output, which has been ok, his approach is jarring. He is like leading the MLB in strickouts.



Been a fan for decades myself, which includes seeing a lot of Stanton before this season too. Hes off to an up and down start, but some of you dont hesitate to whine and boo after every bad AB



Agreed, I don't think you will find many of those type of fans on this board. But I have no problem with making critique observations among the guys.


Fair enough, as I said were all fans who have every right to our opinions. Not arguing he hasnt looked bad often so far - sometimes seems like hes squeezing the sawdust out of the bat, trying so hard to succeed.

I just bristle when people jump all over a guy before giving him a chance, thats how I took your first post. IMO his track record speaks for itself, he should get going soon, we hope!
Didi's swing is perfect  
dune69 : 4/24/2018 8:19 pm : link
for Yankee Stadium!!
And until that day, Didi can just keep on  
mfsd : 4/24/2018 8:19 pm : link
raking!!
Didi's powers are getting stronger  
DennyInDenville : 4/24/2018 8:20 pm : link
Intensifying his powers more and more

Didi can not be stopped. What a stud
Didi is just so  
section125 : 4/24/2018 8:25 pm : link
quick. Team keeps raking.

Funny MLB briefly switched to a No-hitter game and on the first pitch Freeman of the Braves hit a HR...total jinx job.
Sanchez  
BigBlueJ : 4/24/2018 8:27 pm : link
For some crazy reason watching Sanchez reminds me of the great Yankee destroyer of souls Edgar Martinez.
81 pitches through 6 innings for CC  
DennyInDenville : 4/24/2018 8:35 pm : link
Big guy giving us that length today
RE: 81 pitches through 6 innings for CC  
section125 : 4/24/2018 8:39 pm : link
In comment 13929262 DennyInDenville said:
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Big guy giving us that length today


Great job tonight. Tough 1st inning and cruised after.
Another solid hit for Torres!!  
mfsd : 4/24/2018 8:42 pm : link
Kids making himself right at home
Oh come the fuck on.  
bceagle05 : 4/24/2018 8:47 pm : link
The plate is directly in front of Sanchez, Dellin.
I cant believe how bad Betances is now  
UConn4523 : 4/24/2018 8:48 pm : link
he went from excellent and just skipped right over average and has been a complete bag of suck for over a year now. I hope he can get back to being just a solid guy even but Im not sure that will happen.
Sure was nice of the Twins hitter to chase for strike 2  
mfsd : 4/24/2018 8:52 pm : link
then take strike 3 over the middle. Come on Dellin, settle down
Bad job...Boone  
Neckbone1333 : 4/24/2018 8:52 pm : link
No excuse
Betances is so lost it's crazy  
DennyInDenville : 4/24/2018 8:53 pm : link
guy could never field but this is just bad.

He should have been traded instead of Miller but we can't fault Cash he's been money on almost everything
RE: Bad job...Boone  
section125 : 4/24/2018 8:55 pm : link
In comment 13929291 Neckbone1333 said:
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No excuse


I blame Boone for all the errors. That is coaching. Lack of drills.
Can't wait to hear  
bceagle05 : 4/24/2018 8:56 pm : link
how well Dellin repeated his delivery tonight. The stuff is there!
He should only be pitching in a game we are losing  
Neckbone1333 : 4/24/2018 8:56 pm : link
by 10 runs or more or winning by 20 runs or more.

What a dick
Funny, but if Torres  
section125 : 4/24/2018 8:58 pm : link
makes the easy catch and tag, the inning is probably over.

That error has to be changed from E2 to E4. That was an easy catch and tag.
Can't waste these starting pitching efforts  
Neckbone1333 : 4/24/2018 8:58 pm : link
These are huge games, especially with a chance to gain another game possibly on Boston
DRob...Big  
Neckbone1333 : 4/24/2018 9:02 pm : link
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Robertson is  
section125 : 4/24/2018 9:02 pm : link
ice.
Let's tack on a few more now  
Neckbone1333 : 4/24/2018 9:03 pm : link
or at least the one we gave away.

I think Stanton hits a bomb
Robertson cool as a cucumber  
mfsd : 4/24/2018 9:03 pm : link
as usual
Thank you, D-Rob.  
Dave in Hoboken : 4/24/2018 9:04 pm : link
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RE: He should only be pitching in a game we are losing  
Kyle in NY : 4/24/2018 9:06 pm : link
In comment 13929305 Neckbone1333 said:
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by 10 runs or more or winning by 20 runs or more.

What a dick


Strange term to use for a four time all star who is clearly fighting it and trying desperately to find his form again. He actually hadnt given up a run in 5 of his last 6 appearances before tonight. Unfortunately he just runs so hot and cold dating back to around mid season last season.

Too talented to give up on. They need to help him through this. Booing certainly isnt going to help.
Ankle high fastball for strike one  
mfsd : 4/24/2018 9:07 pm : link
to Judge. Of course.
All Rise!!  
mfsd : 4/24/2018 9:08 pm : link
Here come da Judge!!
Judge with another bomb!  
Dave in Hoboken : 4/24/2018 9:08 pm : link
Man, is he locked in.
Judge is a marvel  
Kyle in NY : 4/24/2018 9:09 pm : link
What a player
RE: RE: He should only be pitching in a game we are losing  
section125 : 4/24/2018 9:09 pm : link
In comment 13929330 Kyle in NY said:
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by 10 runs or more or winning by 20 runs or more.

What a dick



Strange term to use for a four time all star who is clearly fighting it and trying desperately to find his form again. He actually hadnt given up a run in 5 of his last 6 appearances before tonight. Unfortunately he just runs so hot and cold dating back to around mid season last season.

Too talented to give up on. They need to help him through this. Booing certainly isnt going to help.


Lets not lose sight of the big error by Torres which would have been two outs - so yes he was wild. But we know Betances all of a sudden he clicks and then boom K,K,K.
RE: Ankle high fastball for strike one  
section125 : 4/24/2018 9:12 pm : link
In comment 13929331 mfsd said:
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to Judge. Of course.


Don't need to exaggerate. It was a touch low. Def a ball, but a tad low.

Didn't matter - next pitch was deposited in RF.
RE: RE: Ankle high fastball for strike one  
mfsd : 4/24/2018 9:13 pm : link
In comment 13929344 section125 said:
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to Judge. Of course.



Don't need to exaggerate. It was a touch low. Def a ball, but a tad low.

Didn't matter - next pitch was deposited in RF.


Im hard on these umps:) But youre right, doesnt seem to faze Judge, thats what matters
Sanchez bomb!!!!!  
Dave in Hoboken : 4/24/2018 9:13 pm : link
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Uh-oh  
section125 : 4/24/2018 9:14 pm : link
trouble is brewing in the AL.
That was a good poke.  
bceagle05 : 4/24/2018 9:15 pm : link
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Kinda reminds me of the great line about Ahmad Bradshaw  
mfsd : 4/24/2018 9:17 pm : link
running like hes mad at the grass.

Sanchez hits like hes mad at the baseball.
This  
mitch300 : 4/24/2018 9:29 pm : link
Is the offensive that everyone expected this season. Wait until the weather starts warming up.
What happened with the yanks fielding, sloppiness  
micky : 4/24/2018 9:31 pm : link
this year?
The team homerun record is definitely up for grabs  
DennyInDenville : 4/24/2018 9:31 pm : link
I think they will break the record especially once Statnton starts hitting 5 a week
Hicks - wtf?  
section125 : 4/24/2018 9:31 pm : link
He's calling for it and then gave up on it. Gardner is still the best CF on this team.
RE: What happened with the yanks fielding, sloppiness  
section125 : 4/24/2018 9:33 pm : link
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this year?


Boone is what happened. He just didn't do enough in ST. They seemed quite lackadaisical in ST.
Yanks win!  
Dave in Hoboken : 4/24/2018 9:50 pm : link
Let's keep rolling.
Solid work by Holder to finish it  
mfsd : 4/24/2018 9:50 pm : link
This teams starting to have fun
Good win beating a good  
section125 : 4/24/2018 9:54 pm : link
young pitcher. (despite tripping on their dicks in the field)
RE: 81 pitches through 6 innings for CC  
Milton : 4/24/2018 9:57 pm : link
In comment 13929262 DennyInDenville said:
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Big guy giving us that length today

That's what she said - ( New Window )
Granderson comes  
section125 : 4/24/2018 10:02 pm : link
up big, Nails Helmo at the plate to keep it tied in the 9th and then crushes a Kimbrel offering to end it 4-3 Jays beat the Sawx...the Grandy man can!
Jays beat the Sawx in 10.  
bceagle05 : 4/24/2018 10:02 pm : link
Grandy threw out the go-ahead run at the plate in the ninth, then hit a walk-off homer in the tenth.
Ahh, beat me to it.  
bceagle05 : 4/24/2018 10:03 pm : link
Girardi in studio on MLB Network, doing a great job. Kinda sad listening to him talk Yanks though.
They were already the highest scoring offense in the AL  
Greg from LI : 4/24/2018 10:05 pm : link
Even with Stanton and Sanchez struggling.
RE: Ahh, beat me to it.  
section125 : 4/24/2018 10:07 pm : link
In comment 13929444 bceagle05 said:
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Girardi in studio on MLB Network, doing a great job. Kinda sad listening to him talk Yanks though.


haha - same watching Joe.
Boston loses again.  
Dave in Hoboken : 4/24/2018 10:08 pm : link
Woohoo.
RE: They were already the highest scoring offense in the AL  
section125 : 4/24/2018 10:09 pm : link
In comment 13929448 Greg from LI said:
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Even with Stanton and Sanchez struggling.


Weather got warm. Bats getting hot. You knew Sanchez would start hitting soon. Stanton will relax with the other bats thumping and then start raking.
RE: Boston loses again.  
mfsd : 4/24/2018 10:10 pm : link
In comment 13929459 Dave in Hoboken said:
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Woohoo.


Granderson with a 10th inning walk off bomb off of Kimbrel!!
Apparently I was the last to know lol  
mfsd : 4/24/2018 10:11 pm : link
but another good night in Yankee land!
Didi leading the MLB in OPS and RBI's  
NoGainDayne : 4/24/2018 10:19 pm : link
playing great defense at SS. Wow.
I saw Joe on MLBN too. I definitely felt bad for him.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 4/24/2018 10:21 pm : link
They handed a guy with no experience a fucking juggernaut. Gary freakin' Sanchez had a horrible start and still leads all AL catchers in HRs, RBIs, and runs scored.
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Del Shofner : 4/24/2018 11:12 pm : link
I didn't realize Torres is that small  
Greg from LI : 4/24/2018 11:25 pm : link
Didi looks huge next to him
LOVE seeing Torres get a couple of hits tonight.  
Dave in Hoboken : 4/24/2018 11:36 pm : link
He's getting more comfortable out there that's for sure. It's amazing to see how young and loaded this squad is going forward.
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Dave in Hoboken : 4/24/2018 11:55 pm : link
Yankees PR Dept.

@YankeesPR
.@ElGarySanchez is the first player in Major League history to record nine multi-HR games in his first 196 career games.
Get some rest tonight fellas.  
bceagle05 : 4/24/2018 11:57 pm : link
Tomorrow is Sonny Gray Day, after all.
4 straight starts the Yanks SP has gone at least 6  
mfsd : 4/25/2018 12:29 am : link
and given up 1 run or less...maybe Gray can keep it going?
RE: Hicks - wtf?  
Tuckrule : 4/25/2018 7:27 am : link
In comment 13929386 section125 said:
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He's calling for it and then gave up on it. Gardner is still the best CF on this team.


Been saying this for years. I guess they want to save his legs so hell only play there when hicks is resting but its clear as day that gardy is the best defensive player on his team and Im talking at any position. Yes, Gardner is a better defensive outfielder than didi is a shortstop
Yeah, bats heating up, starters giving some length  
Victor in CT : 4/25/2018 8:25 am : link
* Judge is such a good hitter
* ditto Didi
* Sanchez breaks the Mendoza Line! What a blast to CF! Amazing he leads MLB catchers in every power category and he started like shit
* not worried about Stanton, he's getting there. Just a tick off last night.One thing I would watch for: is there a pattern developing where he has bad games at the plate when he is a DH rather than playing in the field? Too soon to say now, but bears watching.
* Betances? UGH! Where's his fastball? It's probably a coincidence, but he hasn't been the same since that asshole Levine attacked him after his arb hearing.
*I don't think Romine is going to be Gray's caddy. They have a day game after night game on Thursday, so Sanchez was going to sit one of those anyway. And besides, Gray has sucked equally with both guys catching.
* Sox lose again!!
Do we have any sabermetricians in the house?  
arniefez : 4/25/2018 10:38 am : link
I'm starting to lose faith in WAR

Player A a CF has a 2.3 WAR

.308/.418/.691/1.110 OPS 206 OPS + 20 runs scored 28 hits, 63 TB

Player B a RF has a 1.8 WAR

.341/.476/.659/1.134 OPS 208 OPS + 22 runs scored, 28 hits, 54 TB

Both are excellent defensive players. What am I missing?
Question: How can Didi be this good?  
manh george : 4/25/2018 11:02 am : link
I have yet to see a decent analysis as to why Didi, at least for now, has become one of the best hitters in baseball. He doesn't have substantial body mass, his bat speed is good but not off the charts. But, he centers on the ball consistently and amazingly well. From CBS sports:

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The plate discipline is a big part of the surge. He improved in the second half last year on the walks and strikeouts front. This year, he's struck out nine times against 15 walks. Go back to 2016 and you'll find that Gregorius only walked 19 times all season, compared to 82 strikeouts.

In looking at his profile, he's swinging at far fewer bad pitches. He's actually swinging at fewer pitches in the strike zone too, he's just making exceptional contact when he does swing and punishing the ball. He's also hitting more balls in the air -- roughly half his balls in play this season -- while pulling a lot more.

That's a good approach for a left-handed hitter in Yankee Stadium with the short right field porch. It's paying off for Gregorius, even if he was overshadowed coming into the season.


All well and wonderful, but how? I love what I'm seeing, but how has he surged past so many other players? I know he does have one advantage: hitting where he does in the order, he never gets pitched around and can expect pitchers to be trying to throw him strikes. But what else? What makes his swing special?
RE: Do we have any sabermetricians in the house?  
Kyle in NY : 4/25/2018 11:05 am : link
In comment 13930188 arniefez said:
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I'm starting to lose faith in WAR

Player A a CF has a 2.3 WAR

.308/.418/.691/1.110 OPS 206 OPS + 20 runs scored 28 hits, 63 TB

Player B a RF has a 1.8 WAR

.341/.476/.659/1.134 OPS 208 OPS + 22 runs scored, 28 hits, 54 TB

Both are excellent defensive players. What am I missing?


WAR takes positional scarcity into account. C/SS/CF are the more valuable positions. If two players are putting up comparable numbers and similar defense, but one is doing it at SS and the other in LF, the SS will have a greater WAR.
RE: Do we have any sabermetricians in the house?  
mfsd : 4/25/2018 11:08 am : link
In comment 13930188 arniefez said:
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I'm starting to lose faith in WAR

Player A a CF has a 2.3 WAR

.308/.418/.691/1.110 OPS 206 OPS + 20 runs scored 28 hits, 63 TB

Player B a RF has a 1.8 WAR

.341/.476/.659/1.134 OPS 208 OPS + 22 runs scored, 28 hits, 54 TB

Both are excellent defensive players. What am I missing?


Are you referring to Judge and Trout? BC I was wondering about this last night...Trout is off to a scorching start, but Didi is ahead in most offensive categories...at a position where offense is typically less on balance I think. Trout is an elite defender, Didi pretty close to elite as well.

So how does Trout have a 2.3 WAR and Didi have a 1.7 WAR?

Really just curious too
RE: RE: Do we have any sabermetricians in the house?  
Victor in CT : 4/25/2018 11:13 am : link
In comment 13930303 mfsd said:
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In comment 13930188 arniefez said:


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I'm starting to lose faith in WAR

Player A a CF has a 2.3 WAR

.308/.418/.691/1.110 OPS 206 OPS + 20 runs scored 28 hits, 63 TB

Player B a RF has a 1.8 WAR

.341/.476/.659/1.134 OPS 208 OPS + 22 runs scored, 28 hits, 54 TB

Both are excellent defensive players. What am I missing?



Are you referring to Judge and Trout? BC I was wondering about this last night...Trout is off to a scorching start, but Didi is ahead in most offensive categories...at a position where offense is typically less on balance I think. Trout is an elite defender, Didi pretty close to elite as well.

So how does Trout have a 2.3 WAR and Didi have a 1.7 WAR?

Really just curious too


Player B is Aaron Judge
I can see why WAR would favor Trout as a CF over Judge as a LF  
mfsd : 4/25/2018 11:14 am : link
But how does it favor Trout even more over Didi, when Didi as of this morning is better in almost every category?
Baseball reference  
Kyle in NY : 4/25/2018 11:15 am : link
has Trout's defense worth 0.6 WAR so far this season and Didi's worth 0.2. That accounts for the majority of the difference.
RE: Baseball reference  
mfsd : 4/25/2018 11:16 am : link
In comment 13930334 Kyle in NY said:
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has Trout's defense worth 0.6 WAR so far this season and Didi's worth 0.2. That accounts for the majority of the difference.


Copy that, makes sense. Didn't realize the defensive worth counted so much
Well that's where those that don't like WAR  
Kyle in NY : 4/25/2018 11:21 am : link
have a decent case. It values defense about as equally as it does offense. And while defensive evaluation has come a long ways, it's still much more subjective than measuring offensive contributions.
I know the answer  
arniefez : 4/25/2018 11:41 am : link
and yes it's Trout and Judge. WAR is a flawed metric because there's no real way to quantify defense. It's given way too much consideration by most people.
RE: Question: How can Didi be this good?  
Del Shofner : 4/25/2018 11:52 am : link
In comment 13930275 manh george said:
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He doesn't have substantial body mass


Hey George - don't have answers to your other questions other than what you linked about Didi becoming more selective, but so far as body mass -- Didi is not a small guy, he is 6'3" and 205 lbs per the Yankee roster. Greg noted above how in that gif Didi looks very big compared to Torres, and Torres is 6'1" (but a lot skinnier than Didi).
new team cold weather new league  
djm : 4/25/2018 12:20 pm : link
yet Stanton is still on pace for 35 and 100 rbis. He will have a hot stretch or two. He will hit 40 plus. Hang in there.
Yeah I haven't thought twice about Stanton's struggles.  
bceagle05 : 4/25/2018 12:22 pm : link
Not at all concerned.

Gray and Betances are the concerns.
i'm pretty much convinced that Gray won't get the job done here  
djm : 4/25/2018 12:26 pm : link
Yanks ALWAYS have one starting pitcher that shits the bed here even during the best of times. Gray is the latest. He nibbles...always fucking nibbling out there. Doesn't trust his stuff.
Being on the Yankees can distort how someone appears  
Greg from LI : 4/25/2018 12:28 pm : link
They've got to be the physically largest team in MLB history. From the roster:

6'3": Green, Tanaka, Didi, Walker
6'4": Bird, Shreve, Chapman
6'5": the newly acquired AJ Cole
6'6": Stanton, Sabathia, Montgomery
6'7": Judge
6'8": Betances

None of those guys are beanpoles, either. Didi is the lightest at 205.
RE: i'm pretty much convinced that Gray won't get the job done here  
Victor in CT : 4/25/2018 12:29 pm : link
In comment 13930557 djm said:
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Yanks ALWAYS have one starting pitcher that shits the bed here even during the best of times. Gray is the latest. He nibbles...always fucking nibbling out there. Doesn't trust his stuff.


I agree djm. he doesn't seem to have "it". He needs to be somewhere where they aren't expected to win. Or perhaps a small market contender.

And the fucking nibbling is maddening. And he takes forever between pitches, almost like he's afraid. It has to be horrible to play behind him.
I don't have much hope for Gray either  
bceagle05 : 4/25/2018 12:32 pm : link
but he's never been THIS bad. Even the harshest critics of the trade couldn't have anticipated him pitching like this. At worst he should be a weak #3 starter or a strong #4.
in comparison  
Greg from LI : 4/25/2018 12:37 pm : link
The Sawx have one position player bigger than 6'2", JD Martinez. They have some tall pitchers, but Sale and Porcello are really skinny dudes.
Gray has made four starts this season  
Kyle in NY : 4/25/2018 12:42 pm : link
and despite being a bit frustrating to watch last season, he was still effective after coming over.

Let's give him some time to work out his issues before writing him off.
I like the way Boone managed his pitchers Monday and Tuesday  
xman : 4/25/2018 1:01 pm : link
(Other then his use of Betances). Tanaka went a perfect 91 pitches.Got squeezed on the last batter but Boone did not hesitate to yank him at 6 2/3. Green came in and was squeezed on his first batter.But the fact that Boone did not bring Green out to pitch the following inning once the Yanks padded their lead was unlike last year when they wasted Green's arm twice in a week when the Yanks had 7 leads.

Boone was able to steal an extra inning fro CC :let him throw 84 pitches. Betances did his usual imitation of Wild Bill Hickok. Betances is likely permanently lost. Shooting star that has flamed out. Wished he had been used in the 14-1 shellacking
having physically big, strong players was a hallmark of the old  
Victor in CT : 4/25/2018 1:15 pm : link
Yankee dynasties. There were exceptions like Rizzuto and Berra, but they liked big players who looked intimidating. One of the many great tidbits from Halberstam's "summer of '49" and "October 1964"
having physically big, strong players was a hallmark of the old  
Victor in CT : 4/25/2018 1:17 pm : link
Yankee dynasties. There were exceptions like Rizzuto and Berra, but they liked big players who looked intimidating. One of the many great tidbits from Halberstam's "summer of '49" and "October 1964"
RE: I like the way Boone managed his pitchers Monday and Tuesday  
Ron from Ninerland : 4/25/2018 2:45 pm : link
In comment 13930709 xman said:
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(Other then his use of Betances). Tanaka went a perfect 91 pitches.Got squeezed on the last batter but Boone did not hesitate to yank him at 6 2/3. Green came in and was squeezed on his first batter.But the fact that Boone did not bring Green out to pitch the following inning once the Yanks padded their lead was unlike last year when they wasted Green's arm twice in a week when the Yanks had 7 leads.

Boone was able to steal an extra inning fro CC :let him throw 84 pitches. Betances did his usual imitation of Wild Bill Hickok. Betances is likely permanently lost. Shooting star that has flamed out. Wished he had been used in the 14-1 shellacking
Yes, I agree that Boone has handled the pitchers better since that fiasco against Miami. He's using the mop up guys in blowouts and he's been careful not to overwork Robertson and Green. Even with Betances he did as well as could be expected. He brought him in with a 4 run lead and gave him the chance to straighten himself out. When it was clear he didn't have it and the tying run came to the plate, he brought in Robertson. After they scored 3 more runs, Shreve and Holder mopped up. If Holder had faltered, he still had Chapman.
RE: having physically big, strong players was a hallmark of the old  
Jay in Toronto : 4/25/2018 5:32 pm : link
In comment 13930762 Victor in CT said:
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Yankee dynasties. There were exceptions like Rizzuto and Berra, but they liked big players who looked intimidating. One of the many great tidbits from Halberstam's "summer of '49" and "October 1964"


Don't forget Bobby Richarson
RE: I like the way Boone managed his pitchers Monday and Tuesday  
section125 : 4/25/2018 5:35 pm : link
In comment 13930709 xman said:
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Boone was able to steal an extra inning fro CC :let him throw 84 pitches. Betances did his usual imitation of Wild Bill Hickok. Betances is likely permanently lost. Shooting star that has flamed out. Wished he had been used in the 14-1 shellacking


Except for the previous couple of appearances where he was very good, but who is counting?
If you are refering to Betances  
xman : 4/25/2018 6:13 pm : link
I think if you look closer you see that he throws too many balls. I think the previous outing he did get through the inning one two three but he still had 50% balls 50% strikes with his pitches. He is a stinker
RE: RE: having physically big, strong players was a hallmark of the old  
Victor in CT : 4/26/2018 7:59 am : link
In comment 13931391 Jay in Toronto said:
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Yankee dynasties. There were exceptions like Rizzuto and Berra, but they liked big players who looked intimidating. One of the many great tidbits from Halberstam's "summer of '49" and "October 1964"



Don't forget Bobby Richarson


Yep. but he was surrounded by guys named Moose and Clete :-). And Elston Howard
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