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Benjamin Albright: Browns will select Sam Darnold

Vin_Cuccs : 4/24/2018 8:56 pm
Benjamin Albright is a guy who I have a lot of confidence in. He's usually spot on, and has a ton of info.

If no one follows him on Twitter, he's definitely worth your time.

He's been all on Darnold to Cleveland at #1.

Today, he posted this;

"Some of you saw me delete a tweet. If you caught that tweet, good for you.

No further comment on it."

The deleted Tweet was that the Browns will take Darnold.

Then, Schefter Tweeted this shortly thereafter:

Here’s what Browns’ writer @NathanZegura projects on teams’ website for No. 1 pick:

“QB Sam Darnold - All along I have believed it would come down to Darnold or Baker Mayfield. I do think Mayfield was given incredibly strong consideration, but...Darnold too promising to pass.”

Looks like the dream of Darnold at #2 is dead.

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RE: RE: If hitdog doesn't know the Giants pick  
Rjanyg : 4/24/2018 9:54 pm : link
In comment 13929405 djm said:
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Nobody knows the Giants pick.



No one knows the giants pick.


Gettlemen knows. He knows
RE: RE: RE: If hitdog doesn't know the Giants pick  
GFAN52 : 4/24/2018 9:57 pm : link
In comment 13929418 Rjanyg said:
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In comment 13929405 djm said:


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In comment 13929382 bceagle05 said:


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Nobody knows the Giants pick.



No one knows the giants pick.



Gettlemen knows. He knows


I'm sure he also knows Cleveland going with Darnold as the most likely scenario all along as wel,l and has planned accordingly.
If Darnold isn’t there  
JoeyBigBlue : 4/24/2018 10:04 pm : link
I’m all in on Barkley. I’m not a fan of any of the other QBs. You take the best Player available and that’s Barkley.
I still like Jackson more than any of the other quarterbacks  
Go Terps : 4/24/2018 10:08 pm : link
Mike Lombardi had him as the third best offensive player in the draft and best quarterback.

If he could just get away from his mom...
RE: I still like Jackson more than any of the other quarterbacks  
JoeyBigBlue : 4/24/2018 10:11 pm : link
In comment 13929460 Go Terps said:
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Mike Lombardi had him as the third best offensive player in the draft and best quarterback.

If he could just get away from his mom...


You can’t a risk a number 2 pick on Lamar Jackson. Just way too many questions on him to risk that high a pick on a guy.
Trade  
Mr. Nickels : 4/24/2018 10:16 pm : link
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RE: Trade  
GFAN52 : 4/24/2018 10:18 pm : link
In comment 13929480 Mr. Nickels said:
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Gettleman said he wouldn't trade up in his pre-draft presser.
RE: RE: Trade  
Mr. Nickels : 4/24/2018 10:19 pm : link
In comment 13929483 GFAN52 said:
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In comment 13929480 Mr. Nickels said:


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Gettleman said he wouldn't trade up in his pre-draft presser.



Trade down!
There Are 3 Good Things Cleveland Can Do For The Giants  
Trainmaster : 4/24/2018 10:35 pm : link
1) Draft Rosen, so a) Barkley is available for the Giants to draft, b) the availability / temptation to take Rosen is gone and c) the Giants can entertain "King's Ransom" trade offers for the other, better QBs.

2) Draft Darnold, so a) Barkley is available for the Giants to draft, b) the availability / temptation to take Darnold is gone and c) the Giants can entertain "King's Ransom" trade offers for the other QBs.

3) Draft Barkley AND trade for the 2nd overall pick, giving the Giants at least the 4th in the first round, the 1st in the second round (33rd overall) and 3rd in the second round (35th overall), so the Giants can entertain "King's Ransom" trade offers for the other, better QBs. The Giants can draft multiple offensive lineman in the first 3 picks and still grab a RB, CB or edge rusher.
RE: RE: I still like Jackson more than any of the other quarterbacks  
Go Terps : 4/24/2018 10:35 pm : link
In comment 13929467 JoeyBigBlue said:
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Mike Lombardi had him as the third best offensive player in the draft and best quarterback.

If he could just get away from his mom...



You can’t a risk a number 2 pick on Lamar Jackson. Just way too many questions on him to risk that high a pick on a guy.


I think trading down to 12 to take Jackson is a better option than picking any of the other guys at 2.
RE: You take the best Player available and that’s Barkley.  
Trainmaster : 4/24/2018 10:36 pm : link
+1
RE: Giants won't take  
Giants34 : 4/24/2018 10:37 pm : link
In comment 13929333 jtgiants said:
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Qb then


Well, at least you're consistent. Either you will be right, or you will go down in flames.
I think if you want Jackson..  
Sean : 4/24/2018 10:38 pm : link
you pair him with Barkley. That will mean trading back into the first, but damn that would be exciting.
its been Barkley all along  
Chip : 4/24/2018 10:41 pm : link
it was never going to be a QB. 2nd round OL which is still the weak point of this team.
It’s going to be Barkley or Chubb  
Reb8thVA : 4/24/2018 10:43 pm : link
They aren’t going to touch Rosen, much to the chagrin of some of the BBI faithful
Rjanyg and giants34  
jtgiants : 4/24/2018 10:46 pm : link
Ill be the first to admit if I'm wrong. I've been consistent from day 1 in my own opinion and what I heard. I think giants would trade down if they can stay in top 6. I don't think there's a landing spot so they go barkley/chubb
RE: It’s going to be Barkley or Chubb  
Giants34 : 4/24/2018 10:48 pm : link
In comment 13929522 Reb8thVA said:
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They aren’t going to touch Rosen, much to the chagrin of some of the BBI faithful


I guess we will see on Thursday. This place is as divided as I've ever seen it.
I'd be OK with most of the options  
Greg from LI : 4/24/2018 10:49 pm : link
so long as it's not the Pedo State Hype Train
RE: RE: RE: Josh Allen  
Giants34 : 4/24/2018 10:49 pm : link
In comment 13929368 Sy'56 said:
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might drop to BUF



so what are you thinking

browns - darnold
giants - rosen
jets - mayfeild
browns - chubb
broncos - nelson
colts - james
bucs - barkley
bears - roquan
49ers - fitzpatrick
raiders - mcglinchey
dolphins - vea
bills - allen



Along those lines....


Sy: I saw earlier you mocked Barkley to the Giants. Do you think they will or may go Rosen with the pick, hence this comment? I know it's just a guess, just a question.
Giants34  
jtgiants : 4/24/2018 10:54 pm : link
I totally agree on that point. I have never seen our fan base this divided. No matter what Gettleman does people will be pissed
RE: Giants34  
Giants34 : 4/24/2018 10:58 pm : link
In comment 13929539 jtgiants said:
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I totally agree on that point. I have never seen our fan base this divided. No matter what Gettleman does people will be pissed


We agree! First time in days!
RE: Giants34  
Giants34 : 4/24/2018 10:59 pm : link
In comment 13929539 jtgiants said:
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I totally agree on that point. I have never seen our fan base this divided. No matter what Gettleman does people will be pissed


We agree! First time in days!
Albright just had them getting Mayfield yesterday  
Peppers : 4/24/2018 11:03 pm : link
It’s been Darnold all along.. I’ve shared that several times dating back a few months.
If you applied an inductive approach  
Reb8thVA : 4/24/2018 11:03 pm : link
Verse the usual deductive reasoning that most of us use, the evidence has pointed to a non-QB for a while.
If the Browns go Darnold  
larryflower37 : 4/24/2018 11:13 pm : link
Wonder if the Jets try and jump to 2 to assure they get the guy they want?
I would love to take Barkley at 3.
RE: No surprise at all  
Sonic Youth : 4/24/2018 11:13 pm : link
In comment 13929312 ZogZerg said:
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Now what will the Giants do?
Hopefully take Rosen.
RE: I think if you want Jackson..  
Go Terps : 4/24/2018 11:26 pm : link
In comment 13929515 Sean said:
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you pair him with Barkley. That will mean trading back into the first, but damn that would be exciting.


What about pairing him with Sony Michel? Or the lightning quick kid from USC? Completely realistic scenarios.
Good.  
prdave73 : 4/24/2018 11:31 pm : link
Giants should go after Chubb or Barkley. I still believe in defense, it wins championships, Eagles proved that as well. Remember Giants went after Odell instead of defense in Aaron Donald. Should the Giants this time go after Chubb instead of offense in Barkley??
Good.  
prdave73 : 4/24/2018 11:32 pm : link
Giants should go after Chubb or Barkley. I still believe in defense, it wins championships, Eagles proved that as well. Remember Giants went after Odell instead of defense in Aaron Donald. Should the Giants this time go after Chubb instead of offense in Barkley??
sorry for double post,  
prdave73 : 4/24/2018 11:33 pm : link
Site went crazy.
Hope so  
WillVAB : 4/25/2018 12:01 am : link
I have zero interest in Darnold being an option when the Giants are on the clock.
This is the nightmare scenario...  
bw in dc : 4/25/2018 12:19 am : link
Need the Browns to be the stupid team and take Barkley.

Instead, this will lead to Jints Central running to the podium to select Barkley.

And then there will two distinct sounds - the naive BBI class popping champagne thinking this is actually a worthwhile decision and the informed BBI class breaking plastic remotes in complete disgust of a critical opportunity discarded for a position that grows on trees.

RE: This is the nightmare scenario...  
Reb8thVA : 4/25/2018 12:38 am : link
In comment 13929628 bw in dc said:
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Need the Browns to be the stupid team and take Barkley.

Instead, this will lead to Jints Central running to the podium to select Barkley.

And then there will two distinct sounds - the naive BBI class popping champagne thinking this is actually a worthwhile decision and the informed BBI class breaking plastic remotes in complete disgust of a critical opportunity discarded for a position that grows on trees.


That is tremendously arrogant and condescending thing to say. It must be terribly heavy burden to shoulder all that wisdom and certainty. All class there.
Well  
UberAlias : 4/25/2018 12:40 am : link
That sucks.
RE: If the Browns go Darnold  
EmpireWF : 4/25/2018 12:44 am : link
In comment 13929565 larryflower37 said:
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Wonder if the Jets try and jump to 2 to assure they get the guy they want?
I would love to take Barkley at 3.


No reason and unlikely a Jets/Giants trade like that happens. Giants arent moving back, they'll stay put and take Barkley. Jets can still have their pick of Mayfield or Rosen at 3.
Taking Barkley  
mattyblue : 4/25/2018 2:36 am : link
is going to be a tremendous mistake for the Giants. Even if he plays well.
I am fine  
TommyWiseau : 4/25/2018 2:40 am : link
With Rosen or Barkley at 2 although I prefer the QB. Chubb in a trade down
It’s  
mattyblue : 4/25/2018 2:52 am : link
amazing that Barkley is a “generational” talent and such a good choice at 2 yet there is not a single team trying to trade up to get him. In fact teams are trading out of the position to draft him.
mattyblue  
Nomad Crow on the Madison : 4/25/2018 6:30 am : link
Good point! And I agree with bw in dc -- arrogant or not, he is on the money. RBs grow on trees. Potential HOF QBs do not. Rosen for me. OL in round 2, RB in round 3.
Sam Darnold #1 to the Browns...  
M.S. : 4/25/2018 6:48 am : link

...Josh Rosen #2 to the Giants.

It has been like that for months; it will end up that way tomorrow night.

Oh, and Baker Mayfield #3 to the Jets.

RE: Sam Darnold #1 to the Browns...  
mattyblue : 4/25/2018 8:52 am : link
In comment 13929684 M.S. said:
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...Josh Rosen #2 to the Giants.

It has been like that for months; it will end up that way tomorrow night.

Oh, and Baker Mayfield #3 to the Jets.


Let’s hope so
If Cle  
Harvest Blend : 4/25/2018 8:57 am : link
takes Darnold at #1 I hope the Giants will be able to drop to #4 and let Cle also have Barkley in exchange for owning the top of the 2nd round and coming away with Chubb or Nelson.
To add  
Harvest Blend : 4/25/2018 9:00 am : link
Barkley seems like an irresponsible pick to me. The shelf life, the money (which is very significant), the lack of an OL are just a few reasons why I don't want him at #2.
Shit  
JonC : 4/25/2018 9:01 am : link
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Good. I want Barkley.  
Ryan in Albany : 4/25/2018 9:10 am : link
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RE: This is the nightmare scenario...  
Brown Recluse : 4/25/2018 9:16 am : link
In comment 13929628 bw in dc said:
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Need the Browns to be the stupid team and take Barkley.

Instead, this will lead to Jints Central running to the podium to select Barkley.

And then there will two distinct sounds - the naive BBI class popping champagne thinking this is actually a worthwhile decision and the informed BBI class breaking plastic remotes in complete disgust of a critical opportunity discarded for a position that grows on trees.


Posts like this make it really difficult not to want the Giants to draft Barkley just to see heads explode.
RE: If Cle  
AcesUp : 4/25/2018 9:20 am : link
In comment 13929852 Harvest Blend said:
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takes Darnold at #1 I hope the Giants will be able to drop to #4 and let Cle also have Barkley in exchange for owning the top of the 2nd round and coming away with Chubb or Nelson.


I think that's DG's gameplan as we approach draft day. Ideally Barkley/Chubb with a drop to 4 or 5. Probably entertains trades down further too but barring a blockbuster, we're landing on one of those guys at either 2 or after a small drop back.
RE: This is the nightmare scenario...  
BlueHurricane : 4/25/2018 9:40 am : link
In comment 13929628 bw in dc said:
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Need the Browns to be the stupid team and take Barkley.

Instead, this will lead to Jints Central running to the podium to select Barkley.

And then there will two distinct sounds - the naive BBI class popping champagne thinking this is actually a worthwhile decision and the informed BBI class breaking plastic remotes in complete disgust of a critical opportunity discarded for a position that grows on trees.


Position that grows on trees you say??? LMFAO. Guess Jerry Reese couldn't find those trees the past several seasons.
RE: RE: This is the nightmare scenario...  
twostepgiants : 4/25/2018 10:35 am : link
In comment 13929963 BlueHurricane said:
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In comment 13929628 bw in dc said:


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Need the Browns to be the stupid team and take Barkley.

Instead, this will lead to Jints Central running to the podium to select Barkley.

And then there will two distinct sounds - the naive BBI class popping champagne thinking this is actually a worthwhile decision and the informed BBI class breaking plastic remotes in complete disgust of a critical opportunity discarded for a position that grows on trees.




Position that grows on trees you say??? LMFAO. Guess Jerry Reese couldn't find those trees the past several seasons.


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RE: RE: Trade  
Gatorade Dunk : 4/25/2018 10:56 am : link
In comment 13929483 GFAN52 said:
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Gettleman said he wouldn't trade up in his pre-draft presser.

I doubt that he'll trade up, but for the sake of accuracy, what he said was that he would not use future years' picks to trade up.
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