...why would he talk about Eli's poor throwing on the first day if mini-camp?
As just a stupid lead so he could talk about management's need to draft his successor?
Kinda bush sounding... even moronic.
Cause Pat Leonard sucks. He couldnt write something negative about Beckham since he was there and working hard, so he had to go to plan B to get clicks.
...why would he talk about Eli's poor throwing on the first day if mini-camp?
As just a stupid lead so he could talk about management's need to draft his successor?
Kinda bush sounding... even moronic.
Cause Pat Leonard sucks. He couldnt write something negative about Beckham since he was there and working hard, so he had to go to plan B to get clicks.
...why would he talk about Eli's poor throwing on the first day if mini-camp?
As just a stupid lead so he could talk about management's need to draft his successor?
Kinda bush sounding... even moronic.
Cause Pat Leonard sucks. He couldnt write something negative about Beckham since he was there and working hard, so he had to go to plan B to get clicks.
just 10 being 10
Just a troll being a troll. I have a good idea what your prior username was, but hopefully Eric and the mods figure it out soon.
...why would he talk about Eli's poor throwing on the first day if mini-camp?
As just a stupid lead so he could talk about management's need to draft his successor?
Kinda bush sounding... even moronic.
Cause Pat Leonard sucks. He couldnt write something negative about Beckham since he was there and working hard, so he had to go to plan B to get clicks.
just 10 being 10
Just a troll being a troll. I have a good idea what your prior username was, but hopefully Eric and the mods figure it out soon.
that actual fans of the team are derided as being "Pro eli" or "Eli apologists", as if a fan really needs to apologize for any player they are rooting for, yet several posters exist with only a singular purpose - to shit on Eli.
sundayatone either signed up on BBI with the sole intent to tell the board how much eli sucks, or he's just a troll intentionally trying to litter the board.
I'll never get the motivation of those types of idiots
...why would he talk about Eli's poor throwing on the first day if mini-camp?
As just a stupid lead so he could talk about management's need to draft his successor?
Kinda bush sounding... even moronic.
Cause Pat Leonard sucks. He couldnt write something negative about Beckham since he was there and working hard, so he had to go to plan B to get clicks.
just 10 being 10
Just a troll being a troll. I have a good idea what your prior username was, but hopefully Eric and the mods figure it out soon.
same username since day 1,its just sports,relax.
you are asking Giants fans on a hard core Giants message board to relax about the Giants...think about that
Also fucking stupid unnecessary comment, 10 being 10 got us 2.
You remember saying this when his successor comes and he's gone.
Of Eli. He deserves the criticism. He has been bad for the last several years. It should not surprise a single person on this site if Eli wasn't throwing well yesterday. However, you guys are probably going to blame the offensive line or WR's for running wrong routes. LOL. It's time we move on from # 10. Thanks for the 2 SB's but it's time to get Mason Rudolph in here.
that actual fans of the team are derided as being "Pro eli" or "Eli apologists", as if a fan really needs to apologize for any player they are rooting for, yet several posters exist with only a singular purpose - to shit on Eli.
sundayatone either signed up on BBI with the sole intent to tell the board how much eli sucks, or he's just a troll intentionally trying to litter the board.
I'll never get the motivation of those types of idiots
I find it bizarre that people cannot distinguish between being a fan and having an objective opinion. We all have find memories of the SBs. But logic on so many levels dictates that it is the optimal time that we identify the next franchise QB.
Of Eli. He deserves the criticism. He has been bad for the last several years. It should not surprise a single person on this site if Eli wasn't throwing well yesterday. However, you guys are probably going to blame the offensive line or WR's for running wrong routes. LOL. It's time we move on from # 10. Thanks for the 2 SB's but it's time to get Mason Rudolph in here.
He has been bad for several years? You sure about that?
that actual fans of the team are derided as being "Pro eli" or "Eli apologists", as if a fan really needs to apologize for any player they are rooting for, yet several posters exist with only a singular purpose - to shit on Eli.
sundayatone either signed up on BBI with the sole intent to tell the board how much eli sucks, or he's just a troll intentionally trying to litter the board.
I'll never get the motivation of those types of idiots
I find it bizarre that people cannot distinguish between being a fan and having an objective opinion. We all have find memories of the SBs. But logic on so many levels dictates that it is the optimal time that we identify the next franchise QB.
Alot of people said the same about guys like Breeze and Rivers...put some pieces around those guys and a offensive line then suddenly you have a top 5 QB.
Why cant "objective opinionated fans" get this, wheres the appreciation for a QB who hasn't missed a start to injury.
Look around the NFL last year, I can name 3 teams who's playoff aspirations were shot when they lost their QB.
Be objective but be fucking smart, see the big picture. Giants fans used to be known for this...
is a shot at Eli. Hell he has taken shots at him on threads that have nothing to do with Eli. Now being critical of Eli is fine but shitting on him in every single one of your posts is absurd.
Matt Lombardo
Verified account @MattLombardoNFL
13m13 minutes ago
Pat Shurmur: I thought the defense did some pretty good things yesterday, forced some turnovers. Mistakes were made, but thats why you practice. #Giants
Matt Lombardo
Verified account @MattLombardoNFL
8m8 minutes ago
Pat Shurmur says hes spoken to Ereck Flowers a couple of times, but theres only so much you can get done in a short phone conversation when hes not here. #Giants
Matt Lombardo
Verified account @MattLombardoNFL
9m9 minutes ago
Shurmur: As long as the skill-sets are equal, having a bigger QB can make a difference. It helps when you can see [over the line]. #Giants
Like he was ever an option, but throw Baker Mayfield out. Baker aint that much better if at all over the prosepcts if they decide to go QB. ALlen, Rosen, and Darnodl all fit this bill.
Matt Lombardo
Verified account @MattLombardoNFL
6m6 minutes ago
Eli Manning: It isnt a huge change from last years offense to Pat Shurmurs. At this point, it comes down to the verbiage and visualizing the play after its been called. #Giants
disappointed in Snacks? He didn't show up last year either. Normally I wouldn't care as much but we're installing a new defense and trying to right the ship.
But it's too much trouble I guess for Snacks to show up. Never sits well when guys are making a fortune but decide not to show up to team-building events.
disappointed in Snacks? He didn't show up last year either. Normally I wouldn't care as much but we're installing a new defense and trying to right the ship.
But it's too much trouble I guess for Snacks to show up. Never sits well when guys are making a fortune but decide not to show up to team-building events.
Leadership was questioned a lot last year and Snacks was very outspoken about people who questioned it. Now he doesnt show up? Heś a great player, but I dont think a leader is something he is interested in. I see Collins/Ogletree as the captains of the defense.
New York Giants
Verified account @Giants
3m3 minutes ago
Eli Manning: Davis Webb works extremely hard. He likes watching film and drawing up plays...on the field, in the film room and in the weight room. He has the right mentality. #NYGiants
Matt Lombardo
Verified account @MattLombardoNFL
8m8 minutes ago
Pat Shurmur says hes spoken to Ereck Flowers a couple of times, but theres only so much you can get done in a short phone conversation when hes not here. #Giants
There's also only so much that can get done when the guy refuses to say anything more than "yes" "no" and "OK". He's an overgrown child who needs to become a man.
Dan Duggan
Verified account @DDuggan21
2m2 minutes ago
Davis Webb said he doesnt feel like he has to prove anything. Hes focused on doing the best he can and then its out of his control. He believes hell get his chance someday.
A little rust, maybe?
A real issue, maybe?
Let's wait to see what Shurmur sees over 3 days. If he and Shula really do not like what they see, a QB may well be the #1 spot on their board; then the who/,what it's will kick in.
I'll trust in the guys that wear the key sombreros to do what's best.
As for the writers, they write what/ how they see. Some are Uber Optomistic, some Debby Downer; it lets BBIers make discussion.
RE: I don't know what kind of QB Webb will be but,
that guy has been working his tail off. There's no denying his work ethic.
He should have a future in coaching. The concern I have with him is he is such a hard worker, and son of a football coach, and has quite a bit of experience yet he struggles with his mechanics and decision making. His deep ball accuracy is a concern as well.
Matt Lombardo
Verified account @MattLombardoNFL
8m8 minutes ago
I dont know if its just a lack of timing, or what, but a lot of errant passes from both Eli Manning and Davis Webb early in practice during routes against air. A couple drops mixed in, too. #Giants
Ryan Dunleavy
Verified account @rydunleavy
2m2 minutes ago
#Giants appear to be rotating safeties. Darian Thompson was first team yesterday. Second team today. Newcomer Michael Thomas has some interesting versatility.
Matt Lombardo
Verified account @MattLombardoNFL
6m6 minutes ago
Eli Manning: It isnt a huge change from last years offense to Pat Shurmurs. At this point, it comes down to the verbiage and visualizing the play after its been called. #Giants
That should be helpful. I think most on BBI want to throw last year's Offense under the bus.
the more things change, the more they stay the same...
Matt Lombardo
Verified account @MattLombardoNFL
6m6 minutes ago
Eli Manning: It isnt a huge change from last years offense to Pat Shurmurs. At this point, it comes down to the verbiage and visualizing the play after its been called. #Giants
That should be helpful. I think most on BBI want to throw last year's Offense under the bus.
the more things change, the more they stay the same...
Who'd of thought we might pine for the days of Gilbride?
...why would he talk about Eli's poor throwing on the first day if mini-camp?
As just a stupid lead so he could talk about management's need to draft his successor?
Kinda bush sounding... even moronic.
...why would he talk about Eli's poor throwing on the first day if mini-camp?
As just a stupid lead so he could talk about management's need to draft his successor?
Kinda bush sounding... even moronic.
Cause Pat Leonard sucks. He couldnt write something negative about Beckham since he was there and working hard, so he had to go to plan B to get clicks.
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...why would he talk about Eli's poor throwing on the first day if mini-camp?
As just a stupid lead so he could talk about management's need to draft his successor?
Kinda bush sounding... even moronic.
Cause Pat Leonard sucks. He couldnt write something negative about Beckham since he was there and working hard, so he had to go to plan B to get clicks.
just 10 being 10
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In comment 13929824 M.S. said:
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...why would he talk about Eli's poor throwing on the first day if mini-camp?
As just a stupid lead so he could talk about management's need to draft his successor?
Kinda bush sounding... even moronic.
Cause Pat Leonard sucks. He couldnt write something negative about Beckham since he was there and working hard, so he had to go to plan B to get clicks.
just 10 being 10
Just a troll being a troll. I have a good idea what your prior username was, but hopefully Eric and the mods figure it out soon.
...why would he talk about Eli's poor throwing on the first day if mini-camp?
As just a stupid lead so he could talk about management's need to draft his successor?
Kinda bush sounding... even moronic.
There is a reason he was kicked off rangers beat
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In comment 13929824 M.S. said:
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...why would he talk about Eli's poor throwing on the first day if mini-camp?
As just a stupid lead so he could talk about management's need to draft his successor?
Kinda bush sounding... even moronic.
Cause Pat Leonard sucks. He couldnt write something negative about Beckham since he was there and working hard, so he had to go to plan B to get clicks.
just 10 being 10
Just a troll being a troll. I have a good idea what your prior username was, but hopefully Eric and the mods figure it out soon.
same username since day 1,its just sports,relax.
sundayatone either signed up on BBI with the sole intent to tell the board how much eli sucks, or he's just a troll intentionally trying to litter the board.
I'll never get the motivation of those types of idiots
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In comment 13929891 dep026 said:
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In comment 13929824 M.S. said:
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...why would he talk about Eli's poor throwing on the first day if mini-camp?
As just a stupid lead so he could talk about management's need to draft his successor?
Kinda bush sounding... even moronic.
Cause Pat Leonard sucks. He couldnt write something negative about Beckham since he was there and working hard, so he had to go to plan B to get clicks.
just 10 being 10
Just a troll being a troll. I have a good idea what your prior username was, but hopefully Eric and the mods figure it out soon.
same username since day 1,its just sports,relax.
you are asking Giants fans on a hard core Giants message board to relax about the Giants...think about that
Also fucking stupid unnecessary comment, 10 being 10 got us 2.
You remember saying this when his successor comes and he's gone.
sundayatone either signed up on BBI with the sole intent to tell the board how much eli sucks, or he's just a troll intentionally trying to litter the board.
I'll never get the motivation of those types of idiots
I find it bizarre that people cannot distinguish between being a fan and having an objective opinion. We all have find memories of the SBs. But logic on so many levels dictates that it is the optimal time that we identify the next franchise QB.
He has been bad for several years? You sure about that?
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that actual fans of the team are derided as being "Pro eli" or "Eli apologists", as if a fan really needs to apologize for any player they are rooting for, yet several posters exist with only a singular purpose - to shit on Eli.
sundayatone either signed up on BBI with the sole intent to tell the board how much eli sucks, or he's just a troll intentionally trying to litter the board.
I'll never get the motivation of those types of idiots
I find it bizarre that people cannot distinguish between being a fan and having an objective opinion. We all have find memories of the SBs. But logic on so many levels dictates that it is the optimal time that we identify the next franchise QB.
Alot of people said the same about guys like Breeze and Rivers...put some pieces around those guys and a offensive line then suddenly you have a top 5 QB.
Why cant "objective opinionated fans" get this, wheres the appreciation for a QB who hasn't missed a start to injury.
Look around the NFL last year, I can name 3 teams who's playoff aspirations were shot when they lost their QB.
Be objective but be fucking smart, see the big picture. Giants fans used to be known for this...
Matt Lombardo
Verified account @MattLombardoNFL
13m13 minutes ago
Pat Shurmur: I thought the defense did some pretty good things yesterday, forced some turnovers. Mistakes were made, but thats why you practice. #Giants
Matt Lombardo
Verified account @MattLombardoNFL
13m13 minutes ago
Pat Shurmur says hes spoken to Damon Harrison, and knows why he isnt here. Didnt elaborate any further. #Giants
Matt Lombardo
Verified account @MattLombardoNFL
9m9 minutes ago
Shurmur: As long as the skill-sets are equal, having a bigger QB can make a difference. It helps when you can see [over the line]. #Giants
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
9m9 minutes ago
shurmur says perkins has a sore arm and why he is sidelined for now
Paul Schwartz
Verified account @NYPost_Schwartz
5m5 minutes ago
Damon Snacks Harrison is not here yet at this mini-camp. Pat Shurmur said he expects Snacks back soon.
Paul Schwartz
Verified account @NYPost_Schwartz
14m14 minutes ago
Pat Shurmur says Davis Webb did a good job for the first time out. It was a good first day.
Matt Lombardo
Verified account @MattLombardoNFL
8m8 minutes ago
Pat Shurmur says hes spoken to Ereck Flowers a couple of times, but theres only so much you can get done in a short phone conversation when hes not here. #Giants
Matt Lombardo
Verified account @MattLombardoNFL
9m9 minutes ago
Shurmur: As long as the skill-sets are equal, having a bigger QB can make a difference. It helps when you can see [over the line]. #Giants
Like he was ever an option, but throw Baker Mayfield out. Baker aint that much better if at all over the prosepcts if they decide to go QB. ALlen, Rosen, and Darnodl all fit this bill.
Matt Lombardo
Verified account @MattLombardoNFL
6m6 minutes ago
Eli Manning: It isnt a huge change from last years offense to Pat Shurmurs. At this point, it comes down to the verbiage and visualizing the play after its been called. #Giants
But it's too much trouble I guess for Snacks to show up. Never sits well when guys are making a fortune but decide not to show up to team-building events.
New York Giants
Verified account @Giants
4m4 minutes ago
Eli Manning: 37 is not old. I think 37 is young. Its all about perspective. #NYGiants
But it's too much trouble I guess for Snacks to show up. Never sits well when guys are making a fortune but decide not to show up to team-building events.
Leadership was questioned a lot last year and Snacks was very outspoken about people who questioned it. Now he doesnt show up? Heś a great player, but I dont think a leader is something he is interested in. I see Collins/Ogletree as the captains of the defense.
New York Giants
Verified account @Giants
3m3 minutes ago
Eli Manning: Davis Webb works extremely hard. He likes watching film and drawing up plays...on the field, in the film room and in the weight room. He has the right mentality. #NYGiants
Matt Lombardo
Verified account @MattLombardoNFL
8m8 minutes ago
Pat Shurmur says hes spoken to Ereck Flowers a couple of times, but theres only so much you can get done in a short phone conversation when hes not here. #Giants
There's also only so much that can get done when the guy refuses to say anything more than "yes" "no" and "OK". He's an overgrown child who needs to become a man.
Jordan Raanan
Verified account @JordanRaanan
1m1 minute ago
Eli Manning says the change to Pat Shurmurs offense isnt anywhere near as drastic as changing from Coughlin to McAdoo. #giants
New York Giants
Verified account @Giants
12s12 seconds ago
Kareem Martin: This is an attacking defense...we disguise a lot of things and keep offenses guessing and on their toes. #NYGiants
Dan Duggan
Verified account @DDuggan21
2m2 minutes ago
Davis Webb said he doesnt feel like he has to prove anything. Hes focused on doing the best he can and then its out of his control. He believes hell get his chance someday.
Elis response: I guess he hasnt been around too many 37-year olds.
It's either a hell of a smokescreen or simply the truth.
Barkley or Chubb will be selected tomorrow night.
A real issue, maybe?
Let's wait to see what Shurmur sees over 3 days. If he and Shula really do not like what they see, a QB may well be the #1 spot on their board; then the who/,what it's will kick in.
I'll trust in the guys that wear the key sombreros to do what's best.
As for the writers, they write what/ how they see. Some are Uber Optomistic, some Debby Downer; it lets BBIers make discussion.
He should have a future in coaching. The concern I have with him is he is such a hard worker, and son of a football coach, and has quite a bit of experience yet he struggles with his mechanics and decision making. His deep ball accuracy is a concern as well.
Dan Duggan
Verified account @DDuggan21
7m7 minutes ago
Same players missing today: Snacks, Collins, Flowers, OL Laurence Gibson. Odell and Moss working on the side again. Perkins watching in a sling.
Matt Lombardo
Verified account @MattLombardoNFL
5m5 minutes ago
Cody Latimer getting some first team-reps on the outside during first 11-on-11 period. #Giants
Matt Lombardo
Verified account @MattLombardoNFL
8m8 minutes ago
I dont know if its just a lack of timing, or what, but a lot of errant passes from both Eli Manning and Davis Webb early in practice during routes against air. A couple drops mixed in, too. #Giants
Dan Duggan
Verified account @DDuggan21
6m6 minutes ago
Michael Thomas and Curtis Riley at the safety spots with the first-team D to start the day.
Matt Lombardo
Verified account @MattLombardoNFL
2m2 minutes ago
Really nice catch by Sterling Shepard, falling between defenders to haul in a pass Eli Manning rifled in there. That was pretty. #Giants
Ryan Dunleavy
Verified account @rydunleavy
2m2 minutes ago
#Giants appear to be rotating safeties. Darian Thompson was first team yesterday. Second team today. Newcomer Michael Thomas has some interesting versatility.
Matt Lombardo
Verified account @MattLombardoNFL
1m1 minute ago
Davis Webb did a really nice job rolling out and hitting a wide-open Keeon Johnson who made a very nice catch along the sideline. #Giants
Matt Lombardo
Verified account @MattLombardoNFL
1m1 minute ago
Donte Deeyon just let a Davis Webb interception fly through his hands incomplete. Nice diving effort, though. #Giants
Matt Lombardo
Verified account @MattLombardoNFL
6m6 minutes ago
Eli Manning: It isnt a huge change from last years offense to Pat Shurmurs. At this point, it comes down to the verbiage and visualizing the play after its been called. #Giants
That should be helpful. I think most on BBI want to throw last year's Offense under the bus.
the more things change, the more they stay the same...
Quote:
Matt Lombardo
Verified account @MattLombardoNFL
6m6 minutes ago
Eli Manning: It isnt a huge change from last years offense to Pat Shurmurs. At this point, it comes down to the verbiage and visualizing the play after its been called. #Giants
That should be helpful. I think most on BBI want to throw last year's Offense under the bus.
the more things change, the more they stay the same...
Who'd of thought we might pine for the days of Gilbride?