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Report: Browns Down To Allen or Mayfield

Saos1n : 4/25/2018 10:27 am
Ugh
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The idea that they've  
mittenedman : 4/25/2018 10:37 am : link
"cooled in recent days" is crazy. What could've possibly changed their evaluation in the last couple days??

That would be so "Browns" though.
The only  
bc0312 : 4/25/2018 10:38 am : link
one not linked to #1 overall is Rosen..So it will be Rosen.
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Strahan91 : 4/25/2018 10:38 am : link
In comment 13930149 The_Boss said:
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Could be down to these 2

According to Allbright, theyre not. Its Darnold.


I trust Cabot more than Allbright. She's the best Browns beat writer and the closest to the team. I can't imagine she'd put this out a day before the draft without having at least some level of confidence in it.
Usually the #1 pick is well known by now actually  
MetsAreBack : 4/25/2018 10:39 am : link
so its kind of surprising there is still so much uncertainty out there.
RE: Usually the #1 pick is well known by now actually  
Jay on the Island : 4/25/2018 10:40 am : link
In comment 13930193 MetsAreBack said:
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so its kind of surprising there is still so much uncertainty out there.

That was before the new CBA when teams had to negotiate with the potential #1 picks. Now with the new rookie pay scale teams no longer have to worry about signing their top picks.
RE: Im wondering if the Browns have actually tagged Allen as the guy  
bigbluescot : 4/25/2018 10:41 am : link
In comment 13930151 Saos1n said:
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And they are posturing, knowing the Giants covet Darnold and the reports of the Jets preferring Mayfield...

If they can get the Jets to jump up to 1, acquire more picks, still get Allen and Barkley/Chubb


They're not going to dick about with the 1st pick As new GM Dorsey wants to put a statement down. The last thing the Browns want is to trade from #1 and have whoever gets picked before them prosper. While missing on the player is back, being the guy who trades down and misses on the QB after the previous regime's passing on Wentz and Watson, Dorsey isn't going to open him self up to that.
One thing to consider  
jeff57 : 4/25/2018 10:42 am : link
Although probably far fetched, if the Browns don't take Darnold at 1, it guarantees them Barkley at 4.
RE: Usually the #1 pick is well known by now actually  
bigbluescot : 4/25/2018 10:44 am : link
In comment 13930193 MetsAreBack said:
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so its kind of surprising there is still so much uncertainty out there.


There was a rumor yesterday that Dorsey isn't going to tell Jackson the pick until tonight. What you could be seeing is Jackson putting a play for one of his preferred guys out there.
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bceagle05 : 4/25/2018 10:48 am : link
Great News  
Rflairr : 4/25/2018 10:55 am : link
Giants better not be stupid and draft a damn RB and leave Darnold for the Jets
Don't you get the feeling that  
DonnieD89 : 4/25/2018 10:58 am : link
Dorsey and Gettleman are enjoying playing the media. Looks like the media are acting like a bunch of worms squirming on hooks.
like moths to a flame  
djm : 4/25/2018 10:58 am : link
..last month it was Barkley. Two weeks ago it was Allen. Last week it was Darnold. Now it's Mayfield AND Allen.

Yesterday was Allen  
est1986 : 4/25/2018 10:59 am : link
Today is Mayfield
Tomorrow will be all Darnold
RE: Great News  
est1986 : 4/25/2018 11:00 am : link
In comment 13930247 Rflairr said:
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Giants better not be stupid and draft a damn RB and leave Darnold for the Jets


Hold the Jets hostage for Darnold... tell them you need their 2015 or 2017 first round pick plus 3 for Darnold at 2!!!!
RE: Great News  
Jay on the Island : 4/25/2018 11:00 am : link
In comment 13930247 Rflairr said:
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Giants better not be stupid and draft a damn RB and leave Darnold for the Jets

Could you imagine the reaction if the Browns do take Allen or Mayfield 1st and the Giants pass on Darnold and Rosen for either Barkley or Chubb? The Jets would be thrilled.
We need to realize  
blueblood : 4/25/2018 11:02 am : link
the NFL Draft is going to be on Fox for the first time tomorrow. They very last thing the NFL wants is the top pick announced before the broadcast.. expect there to be a lot of back and forth stories over the next 24 hours
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T-Bone : 4/25/2018 11:03 am : link
In comment 13930222 bceagle05 said:
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LOL!
RE: RE: Usually the #1 pick is well known by now actually  
MetsAreBack : 4/25/2018 11:05 am : link
In comment 13930194 Jay on the Island said:
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so its kind of surprising there is still so much uncertainty out there.


That was before the new CBA when teams had to negotiate with the potential #1 picks. Now with the new rookie pay scale teams no longer have to worry about signing their top picks.


2017 Myles Garrett
2016 Jared Goff
2015 Jameis Winston
2014 Jadeveon Clowney
2013 Eric Fisher
2012 Andrew Luck
2011 Cam Newton

which one of these guys wasn't well known a few days before the draft? Answer = none.
RE: RE: Great News  
figgy2989 : 4/25/2018 11:07 am : link
In comment 13930268 est1986 said:
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Giants better not be stupid and draft a damn RB and leave Darnold for the Jets



Hold the Jets hostage for Darnold... tell them you need their 2015 or 2017 first round pick plus 3 for Darnold at 2!!!!


So we get Leonard Williams and Jamal Adams and the number 3, sign me up for that.
As people have said  
Essex : 4/25/2018 11:16 am : link
Mary Kay Cabot has the best sources within the Browns. Now, I have no idea if they are feeding her BS, but she is good, honest reporter--unlike that clown Allbright (who for all we know could be right in this situation).
You have to give Cleveland credit for sending out mix signals  
ZogZerg : 4/25/2018 11:20 am : link
to different people.

I'll bet the farm that is Darnold and this is all BS flying around.
Yesterdays' Browns "insider" said Darnold  
PatersonPlank : 4/25/2018 11:46 am : link
I personally still think its Darnold. I don't see Mayfield, especially after the Manzel disaster, and I can't believe anyone would take Allen over Darnold or Rosen.
The  
AcidTest : 4/25/2018 11:58 am : link
Browns know by now who they will draft. My guess is it's Darnold.
Why do all you amateurs  
DonnieD89 : 4/25/2018 11:59 am : link
out there blatantly come to the conclusion that if a running back is taken at #2 that it is a stupid move? Professionals are making these decisions and not us. If they feel that this is the best direction to go and the value is there for the running back and not for the quarterbacks (which some people absolutely conclude in your own minds that they are worth the #2) is just dogmatic and uneducated. If DG decides to take a RB at #2 then so be it. If DG decides to take a QB at #2 then so be it. I will be happy with whomever they select. It's about getting the pick correct and leading to improving the team dramatically. We amateurs don't have 10 to 20 years of scouting experience. We can call the move dumb in 3 to 5 years if the pick does not pan out. KEEP AN OPEN MIND!
RE: The  
GFAN52 : 4/25/2018 12:04 pm : link
In comment 13930450 AcidTest said:
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Browns know by now who they will draft. My guess is it's Darnold.


Thats correct its Darnold.
RE: RE: Great News  
Rflairr : 4/25/2018 12:04 pm : link
In comment 13930268 est1986 said:
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Giants better not be stupid and draft a damn RB and leave Darnold for the Jets



Hold the Jets hostage for Darnold... tell them you need their 2015 or 2017 first round pick plus 3 for Darnold at 2!!!!


Why? The Giants need a QB as bad they do
I don't necessarily trust that MKC has  
shyster : 4/25/2018 12:07 pm : link
anything substantial behind this but, if not, I would take it as some confirmation of the notion that Dorsey is still holding all cards and has leaked nothing to anyone.

Link is to posts by Browns' fans that strike me as on point as anything out there.
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RE: Why do all you amateurs  
MetsAreBack : 4/25/2018 12:08 pm : link
In comment 13930455 DonnieD89 said:
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out there blatantly come to the conclusion that if a running back is taken at #2 that it is a stupid move? Professionals are making these decisions and not us. If they feel that this is the best direction to go and the value is there for the running back and not for the quarterbacks (which some people absolutely conclude in your own minds that they are worth the #2) is just dogmatic and uneducated. If DG decides to take a RB at #2 then so be it. If DG decides to take a QB at #2 then so be it. I will be happy with whomever they select. It's about getting the pick correct and leading to improving the team dramatically. We amateurs don't have 10 to 20 years of scouting experience. We can call the move dumb in 3 to 5 years if the pick does not pan out. KEEP AN OPEN MIND!


Your tone is out of line. Second, if we defer to authority on everything ... then there is literally nothing to talk about or debate on BBI. Finally, the team is picking 2nd overall because despite having a pretty decent QB last year they went 3-13. Yes, i understand its mostly a new front office now... but i think its generally ok as fans to question those with "10-20 years experience" that have produced just 3 division titles since Eli was drafted in 2004.
Praying  
Thegratefulhead : 4/25/2018 12:09 pm : link
They take Darnold....pretty please.
DG is letting Dorsey know  
Giant John : 4/25/2018 12:13 pm : link
That if you take Darnold at1. You have no shot at Barkley with the 4th. Lots of mind games going on right now.
RE: Why do all you amateurs  
Rflairr : 4/25/2018 12:14 pm : link
In comment 13930455 DonnieD89 said:
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out there blatantly come to the conclusion that if a running back is taken at #2 that it is a stupid move? Professionals are making these decisions and not us. If they feel that this is the best direction to go and the value is there for the running back and not for the quarterbacks (which some people absolutely conclude in your own minds that they are worth the #2) is just dogmatic and uneducated. If DG decides to take a RB at #2 then so be it. If DG decides to take a QB at #2 then so be it. I will be happy with whomever they select. It's about getting the pick correct and leading to improving the team dramatically. We amateurs don't have 10 to 20 years of scouting experience. We can call the move dumb in 3 to 5 years if the pick does not pan out. KEEP AN OPEN MIND!


It is dumb. Its not a premium position. And they actually have a big need at QB. Im sorry, taking Barkely at 2 is beyond stupid. If Eli was 30, I might have another opinion, and even then, I would look at the more premium position in Chubb.

I also dont believe Barkely is much better than Guice or The UGA RB
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EmpireWF : 4/25/2018 12:15 pm : link
In comment 13930468 GFAN52 said:
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Browns know by now who they will draft. My guess is it's Darnold.



Thats correct its Darnold.


Wrong. It's Allen.
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ThatLimerickGuy : 4/25/2018 12:17 pm : link
In comment 13930475 MetsAreBack said:
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out there blatantly come to the conclusion that if a running back is taken at #2 that it is a stupid move? Professionals are making these decisions and not us. If they feel that this is the best direction to go and the value is there for the running back and not for the quarterbacks (which some people absolutely conclude in your own minds that they are worth the #2) is just dogmatic and uneducated. If DG decides to take a RB at #2 then so be it. If DG decides to take a QB at #2 then so be it. I will be happy with whomever they select. It's about getting the pick correct and leading to improving the team dramatically. We amateurs don't have 10 to 20 years of scouting experience. We can call the move dumb in 3 to 5 years if the pick does not pan out. KEEP AN OPEN MIND!



Your tone is out of line. Second, if we defer to authority on everything ... then there is literally nothing to talk about or debate on BBI. Finally, the team is picking 2nd overall because despite having a pretty decent QB last year they went 3-13. Yes, i understand its mostly a new front office now... but i think its generally ok as fans to question those with "10-20 years experience" that have produced just 3 division titles since Eli was drafted in 2004.


Wait. We may not disagree on this stuff, because what fun would that be around here, but what's wrong with his "tone"? Please don't tell me that him calling people amateurs, as in not professional at football scouting, offends you, because that would be hilarious.
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DonnieD89 : 4/25/2018 12:21 pm : link
In comment 13930475 MetsAreBack said:
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out there blatantly come to the conclusion that if a running back is taken at #2 that it is a stupid move? Professionals are making these decisions and not us. If they feel that this is the best direction to go and the value is there for the running back and not for the quarterbacks (which some people absolutely conclude in your own minds that they are worth the #2) is just dogmatic and uneducated. If DG decides to take a RB at #2 then so be it. If DG decides to take a QB at #2 then so be it. I will be happy with whomever they select. It's about getting the pick correct and leading to improving the team dramatically. We amateurs don't have 10 to 20 years of scouting experience. We can call the move dumb in 3 to 5 years if the pick does not pan out. KEEP AN OPEN MIND!



Your tone is out of line. Second, if we defer to authority on everything ... then there is literally nothing to talk about or debate on BBI. Finally, the team is picking 2nd overall because despite having a pretty decent QB last year they went 3-13. Yes, i understand its mostly a new front office now... but i think its generally ok as fans to question those with "10-20 years experience" that have produced just 3 division titles since Eli was drafted in 2004.


No, my tone is not out of line. Calling a profession dumb or stupid is out of line not knowing what the outcome of the selection will be. We are not Nostradamus. Nothing is guaranteed. I am just pointing out that nobody really has a right to call a pick dumb or stupid with baseless fact, until we know what the outcome is. That is what is so uneducated about these remarks. Everybody is entitled to their opinion, but nobody is entitled to the facts, unless they are available. And guess what? There're no facts available to prove it, as of now.
Saw this on a browns board a few weeks ago  
Strahan91 : 4/25/2018 12:22 pm : link
Didn't post it because it seemed like it could definitely be something made up by a poster although apparently he has a pretty good track record with his asshattery. With no clarity as to where the Browns will go tomorrow and Dave Te saying it was down to Allen or Rosen, it seems slightly more likely now that the poster isn't their version of Slade.

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RE: Why do all you amateurs  
aimrocky : 4/25/2018 12:27 pm : link
In comment 13930455 DonnieD89 said:
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out there blatantly come to the conclusion that if a running back is taken at #2 that it is a stupid move? Professionals are making these decisions and not us. If they feel that this is the best direction to go and the value is there for the running back and not for the quarterbacks (which some people absolutely conclude in your own minds that they are worth the #2) is just dogmatic and uneducated. If DG decides to take a RB at #2 then so be it. If DG decides to take a QB at #2 then so be it. I will be happy with whomever they select. It's about getting the pick correct and leading to improving the team dramatically. We amateurs don't have 10 to 20 years of scouting experience. We can call the move dumb in 3 to 5 years if the pick does not pan out. KEEP AN OPEN MIND!


So, we're not allowed to have an opinion? We should blindly say "In X I trust"? How did that work out for us the past several years? I'm done believing the professionals opinions are 100% accurate.

The QB is the most important position in all of sports. That's not debatable. I was lucky enough to watch a bunch of college football this season. I'm no scout, but I think Rosen and Darnold showed they have the best chance at being upper echelon QB's. Sure, Barkley is the best player in this draft, but I'm taking a QB who can give you 10-15 years over a RB who would be lucky to give you 8 every day of the week.
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DonnieD89 : 4/25/2018 12:49 pm : link
In comment 13930561 aimrocky said:
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out there blatantly come to the conclusion that if a running back is taken at #2 that it is a stupid move? Professionals are making these decisions and not us. If they feel that this is the best direction to go and the value is there for the running back and not for the quarterbacks (which some people absolutely conclude in your own minds that they are worth the #2) is just dogmatic and uneducated. If DG decides to take a RB at #2 then so be it. If DG decides to take a QB at #2 then so be it. I will be happy with whomever they select. It's about getting the pick correct and leading to improving the team dramatically. We amateurs don't have 10 to 20 years of scouting experience. We can call the move dumb in 3 to 5 years if the pick does not pan out. KEEP AN OPEN MIND!



So, we're not allowed to have an opinion? We should blindly say "In X I trust"? How did that work out for us the past several years? I'm done believing the professionals opinions are 100% accurate.

The QB is the most important position in all of sports. That's not debatable. I was lucky enough to watch a bunch of college football this season. I'm no scout, but I think Rosen and Darnold showed they have the best chance at being upper echelon QB's. Sure, Barkley is the best player in this draft, but I'm taking a QB who can give you 10-15 years over a RB who would be lucky to give you 8 every day of the week.


Did your read my recent reply? Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but nobody is entitled to the facts, especially when not knowing the outcome. I also find it funny that all the need to take a QB crowds do even consider the devastation of selecting the QB that maybe over valued and may result in a bust. See Dave Brown. I admit I was excited about drafting Dave Brown when he was selected in the supplemental draft. As I previously stated, I would be happy if a QB is taken at #2 and I would be happy if a RB is taken at #2. I am not going to call a pick stupid until 3 to 5 years from now, if it doesn't pan out.
RE: Why do all you amateurs  
Giantfan in skinland : 4/25/2018 12:56 pm : link
In comment 13930455 DonnieD89 said:
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out there blatantly come to the conclusion that if a running back is taken at #2 that it is a stupid move? Professionals are making these decisions and not us. If they feel that this is the best direction to go and the value is there for the running back and not for the quarterbacks (which some people absolutely conclude in your own minds that they are worth the #2) is just dogmatic and uneducated. If DG decides to take a RB at #2 then so be it. If DG decides to take a QB at #2 then so be it. I will be happy with whomever they select. It's about getting the pick correct and leading to improving the team dramatically. We amateurs don't have 10 to 20 years of scouting experience. We can call the move dumb in 3 to 5 years if the pick does not pan out. KEEP AN OPEN MIND!


In part, because building a roster in a forward thinking and strategic way has nothing to do with being a scout. The complaints about Barkley have less to do with his scouting report and more to do with issues of supply and demand and roster dynamics. If we take him, I'm not going to be "upset" and I think he's very likely to be a good to very good player who makes us better. That said, I will still likely believe that we could have done more with the pick for the long term good of the franchise.
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chopperhatch : 4/25/2018 12:57 pm : link
In comment 13930288 MetsAreBack said:
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so its kind of surprising there is still so much uncertainty out there.


That was before the new CBA when teams had to negotiate with the potential #1 picks. Now with the new rookie pay scale teams no longer have to worry about signing their top picks.



2017 Myles Garrett
2016 Jared Goff
2015 Jameis Winston
2014 Jadeveon Clowney
2013 Eric Fisher
2012 Andrew Luck
2011 Cam Newton

which one of these guys wasn't well known a few days before the draft? Answer = none.


Id say only Fischer because Joekel was argued as the better tackle. I think Bortles was also in the conversation until the Chiefs signed Alex Smith as a FA.
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cokeduplt : 4/25/2018 1:06 pm : link
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so its kind of surprising there is still so much uncertainty out there.


That was before the new CBA when teams had to negotiate with the potential #1 picks. Now with the new rookie pay scale teams no longer have to worry about signing their top picks.



2017 Myles Garrett
2016 Jared Goff
2015 Jameis Winston
2014 Jadeveon Clowney
2013 Eric Fisher
2012 Andrew Luck
2011 Cam Newton

which one of these guys wasn't well known a few days before the draft? Answer = none.



Id say only Fischer because Joekel was argued as the better tackle. I think Bortles was also in the conversation until the Chiefs signed Alex Smith as a FA.


I remember Cam being a little bit of a surprise
Just saw this from Mike Silver  
shyster : 4/25/2018 1:12 pm : link
Longtime buddy of Hue Jackson.

Silver's claiming that he knows the Browns' pick and, while he won't divulge, he's told his other buddy, Steve Kerr, what the pick is (in confidence) and Kerr will be able to confirm Silver's prior knowledge.


Michael Silver
‏Verified account @MikeSilver
8m8 minutes ago

Michael Silver

Of course they are

@musicmatt98
Replying to @MikeSilver

Is everyone saying that Hue is "out of the loop" just wrong?

Michael Silver
‏Verified account @MikeSilver
9m9 minutes ago

I just told @SteveKerr the pick. Hell corroborate at the victory party. Go Dubs. ✊🏼

@OhioUBobcats
Replying to @MikeSilver
Prove it.

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RE: RE: RE: Usually the #1 pick is well known by now actually  
Jay on the Island : 4/25/2018 1:43 pm : link
In comment 13930288 MetsAreBack said:
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so its kind of surprising there is still so much uncertainty out there.


That was before the new CBA when teams had to negotiate with the potential #1 picks. Now with the new rookie pay scale teams no longer have to worry about signing their top picks.



2017 Myles Garrett
2016 Jared Goff
2015 Jameis Winston
2014 Jadeveon Clowney
2013 Eric Fisher
2012 Andrew Luck
2011 Cam Newton

which one of these guys wasn't well known a few days before the draft? Answer = none.


In 2016 It went back and forth on who the Rams would take Goff or Wentz. Goff at #1 wasn't universally known.
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MojoEd : 4/25/2018 1:47 pm : link
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In 2016 It went back and forth on who the Rams would take Goff or Wentz. Goff at #1 wasn't universally known.

My recollection was that Goff at one was known by the week of the draft; PHI got confirmation of that before trading up.
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Jay on the Island : 4/25/2018 1:50 pm : link
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In 2016 It went back and forth on who the Rams would take Goff or Wentz. Goff at #1 wasn't universally known.


My recollection was that Goff at one was known by the week of the draft; PHI got confirmation of that before trading up.

Hmm, I remember the Eagles being happy with both Goff and Wentz which is why they traded up.
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GFAN52 : 4/25/2018 2:08 pm : link
In comment 13930502 EmpireWF said:
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Browns know by now who they will draft. My guess is it's Darnold.



Thats correct its Darnold.



Wrong. It's Allen.


I could potentially see it down to Darnold and Mayfield, but Darnold will be the choice. Allen will slide down to 5-7.
JoI  
MojoEd : 4/25/2018 2:12 pm : link
Your memory might be better than mine; tried to find a predraft article making the point but came up empty. :)
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MetsAreBack : 4/25/2018 4:03 pm : link
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Hmm, I remember the Eagles being happy with both Goff and Wentz which is why they traded up.


I'm pretty sure the Eagles knew they were getting Wentz... and regardless, everyone knew the Rams were taking Goff a few days if not one day... ahead of the draft.

Like i said, this seems unprecedented where one day before the draft there is still uncertainty at #1
RE: Usually the #1 pick is well known by now actually  
FStubbs : 4/25/2018 5:17 pm : link
In comment 13930193 MetsAreBack said:
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so its kind of surprising there is still so much uncertainty out there.


The Browns need the smokescreen because of the #4 pick. I think we'd know by now if they didn't have another pick so soon after the first pick.
RE: Why do all you amateurs  
FStubbs : 4/25/2018 5:20 pm : link
In comment 13930455 DonnieD89 said:
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out there blatantly come to the conclusion that if a running back is taken at #2 that it is a stupid move? Professionals are making these decisions and not us. If they feel that this is the best direction to go and the value is there for the running back and not for the quarterbacks (which some people absolutely conclude in your own minds that they are worth the #2) is just dogmatic and uneducated. If DG decides to take a RB at #2 then so be it. If DG decides to take a QB at #2 then so be it. I will be happy with whomever they select. It's about getting the pick correct and leading to improving the team dramatically. We amateurs don't have 10 to 20 years of scouting experience. We can call the move dumb in 3 to 5 years if the pick does not pan out. KEEP AN OPEN MIND!


It's been shown time and time again, and even on this board, that RB is such a low value position that even if Barkley is a near Hall of Famer, the pick might still not be worth it.
I dont  
mattyblue : 4/25/2018 7:35 pm : link
really think its even slightly a stretch for the Browns to go Mayfield or Allen over Darnold. Our own Sy would even suggest it according to his ratings. A lot of reports had Shurmur very high on Allen and that guy definitely knows QBs. If the Giants only like Darnold and the Browns are torn but want Chubb/Barkley as well. It would even be a smart play to let the Giants get the QB they want in order to come away with whatever QB they like and the BPA according to them.
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