Many experts still believe the Browns will draft Sam Darnold Thursday night, but sources say the Browns have cooled on the USC passer in recent days and that Allen and Mayfield have surpassed him.
Many experts still believe the Browns will draft Sam Darnold Thursday night, but sources say the Browns have cooled on the USC passer in recent days and that Allen and Mayfield have surpassed him.
This is the type of false info that usually leaks around this time. So after all this time Darnold was the guy but over the past few days they don't like him anymore? What could possibly have changed their mind in the past few days. I will believe it when I see it.
Many experts still believe the Browns will draft Sam Darnold Thursday night, but sources say the Browns have cooled on the USC passer in recent days and that Allen and Mayfield have surpassed him.
This is the type of false info that usually leaks around this time. So after all this time Darnold was the guy but over the past few days they don't like him anymore? What could possibly have changed their mind in the past few days. I will believe it when I see it.
They have the #1 pick and there's nothing to indicate that they have an interest in trading it. So what's the purpose? Other than screwing with peoples' heads.
According to Allbright, they’re not. It’s Darnold.
I trust Cabot more than Allbright. She's the best Browns beat writer and the closest to the team. I can't imagine she'd put this out a day before the draft without having at least some level of confidence in it.
Usually the #1 pick is well known by now actually Â
so its kind of surprising there is still so much uncertainty out there.
That was before the new CBA when teams had to negotiate with the potential #1 picks. Now with the new rookie pay scale teams no longer have to worry about signing their top picks.
RE: I’m wondering if the Browns have actually tagged Allen as the guy Â
And they are posturing, knowing the Giants covet Darnold and the reports of the Jets preferring Mayfield...
If they can get the Jets to jump up to 1, acquire more picks, still get Allen and Barkley/Chubb
They're not going to dick about with the 1st pick As new GM Dorsey wants to put a statement down. The last thing the Browns want is to trade from #1 and have whoever gets picked before them prosper. While missing on the player is back, being the guy who trades down and misses on the QB after the previous regime's passing on Wentz and Watson, Dorsey isn't going to open him self up to that.
so its kind of surprising there is still so much uncertainty out there.
There was a rumor yesterday that Dorsey isn't going to tell Jackson the pick until tonight. What you could be seeing is Jackson putting a play for one of his preferred guys out there.
Giants better not be stupid and draft a damn RB and leave Darnold for the Jets
Could you imagine the reaction if the Browns do take Allen or Mayfield 1st and the Giants pass on Darnold and Rosen for either Barkley or Chubb? The Jets would be thrilled.
the NFL Draft is going to be on Fox for the first time tomorrow. They very last thing the NFL wants is the top pick announced before the broadcast.. expect there to be a lot of back and forth stories over the next 24 hours
so its kind of surprising there is still so much uncertainty out there.
That was before the new CBA when teams had to negotiate with the potential #1 picks. Now with the new rookie pay scale teams no longer have to worry about signing their top picks.
2017 Myles Garrett
2016 Jared Goff
2015 Jameis Winston
2014 Jadeveon Clowney
2013 Eric Fisher
2012 Andrew Luck
2011 Cam Newton
which one of these guys wasn't well known a few days before the draft? Answer = none.
Mary Kay Cabot has the best sources within the Browns. Now, I have no idea if they are feeding her BS, but she is good, honest reporter--unlike that clown Allbright (who for all we know could be right in this situation).
You have to give Cleveland credit for sending out mix signals Â
I personally still think its Darnold. I don't see Mayfield, especially after the Manzel disaster, and I can't believe anyone would take Allen over Darnold or Rosen.
out there blatantly come to the conclusion that if a running back is taken at #2 that it is a stupid move? Professionals are making these decisions and not us. If they feel that this is the best direction to go and the value is there for the running back and not for the quarterbacks (which some people absolutely conclude in your own minds that they are worth the #2) is just dogmatic and uneducated. If DG decides to take a RB at #2 then so be it. If DG decides to take a QB at #2 then so be it. I will be happy with whomever they select. It's about getting the pick correct and leading to improving the team dramatically. We amateurs don't have 10 to 20 years of scouting experience. We can call the move dumb in 3 to 5 years if the pick does not pan out. KEEP AN OPEN MIND!
anything substantial behind this but, if not, I would take it as some confirmation of the notion that Dorsey is still holding all cards and has leaked nothing to anyone.
out there blatantly come to the conclusion that if a running back is taken at #2 that it is a stupid move? Professionals are making these decisions and not us. If they feel that this is the best direction to go and the value is there for the running back and not for the quarterbacks (which some people absolutely conclude in your own minds that they are worth the #2) is just dogmatic and uneducated. If DG decides to take a RB at #2 then so be it. If DG decides to take a QB at #2 then so be it. I will be happy with whomever they select. It's about getting the pick correct and leading to improving the team dramatically. We amateurs don't have 10 to 20 years of scouting experience. We can call the move dumb in 3 to 5 years if the pick does not pan out. KEEP AN OPEN MIND!
Your tone is out of line. Second, if we defer to authority on everything ... then there is literally nothing to talk about or debate on BBI. Finally, the team is picking 2nd overall because despite having a pretty decent QB last year they went 3-13. Yes, i understand its mostly a new front office now... but i think its generally ok as fans to question those with "10-20 years experience" that have produced just 3 division titles since Eli was drafted in 2004.
out there blatantly come to the conclusion that if a running back is taken at #2 that it is a stupid move? Professionals are making these decisions and not us. If they feel that this is the best direction to go and the value is there for the running back and not for the quarterbacks (which some people absolutely conclude in your own minds that they are worth the #2) is just dogmatic and uneducated. If DG decides to take a RB at #2 then so be it. If DG decides to take a QB at #2 then so be it. I will be happy with whomever they select. It's about getting the pick correct and leading to improving the team dramatically. We amateurs don't have 10 to 20 years of scouting experience. We can call the move dumb in 3 to 5 years if the pick does not pan out. KEEP AN OPEN MIND!
It is dumb. It’s not a premium position. And they actually have a big need at QB. I’m sorry, taking Barkely at 2 is beyond stupid. If Eli was 30, I might have another opinion, and even then, I would look at the more premium position in Chubb.
I also don’t believe Barkely is much better than Guice or The UGA RB
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Just the back and forth... consistent back and forth
Could also NOT be down to those two I suppose.
“Could be down to these 2”
According to Allbright, they’re not. It’s Darnold.
If they can get the Jets to jump up to 1, acquire more picks, still get Allen and Barkley/Chubb
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“Could be down to these 2”
According to Allbright, they’re not. It’s Darnold.
I'd trust MKC more on this.
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Many experts still believe the Browns will draft Sam Darnold Thursday night, but sources say the Browns have cooled on the USC passer in recent days and that Allen and Mayfield have surpassed him.
This is the type of false info that usually leaks around this time. So after all this time Darnold was the guy but over the past few days they don't like him anymore? What could possibly have changed their mind in the past few days. I will believe it when I see it.
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would be great news. I want Darnold.
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Many experts still believe the Browns will draft Sam Darnold Thursday night, but sources say the Browns have cooled on the USC passer in recent days and that Allen and Mayfield have surpassed him.
This is the type of false info that usually leaks around this time. So after all this time Darnold was the guy but over the past few days they don't like him anymore? What could possibly have changed their mind in the past few days. I will believe it when I see it.
They have the #1 pick and there's nothing to indicate that they have an interest in trading it. So what's the purpose? Other than screwing with peoples' heads.
That would be so "Browns" though.
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“Could be down to these 2”
According to Allbright, they’re not. It’s Darnold.
I trust Cabot more than Allbright. She's the best Browns beat writer and the closest to the team. I can't imagine she'd put this out a day before the draft without having at least some level of confidence in it.
That was before the new CBA when teams had to negotiate with the potential #1 picks. Now with the new rookie pay scale teams no longer have to worry about signing their top picks.
If they can get the Jets to jump up to 1, acquire more picks, still get Allen and Barkley/Chubb
They're not going to dick about with the 1st pick As new GM Dorsey wants to put a statement down. The last thing the Browns want is to trade from #1 and have whoever gets picked before them prosper. While missing on the player is back, being the guy who trades down and misses on the QB after the previous regime's passing on Wentz and Watson, Dorsey isn't going to open him self up to that.
There was a rumor yesterday that Dorsey isn't going to tell Jackson the pick until tonight. What you could be seeing is Jackson putting a play for one of his preferred guys out there.
Tomorrow will be all Darnold
Hold the Jets hostage for Darnold... tell them you need their 2015 or 2017 first round pick plus 3 for Darnold at 2!!!!
Could you imagine the reaction if the Browns do take Allen or Mayfield 1st and the Giants pass on Darnold and Rosen for either Barkley or Chubb? The Jets would be thrilled.
LOL!
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so its kind of surprising there is still so much uncertainty out there.
That was before the new CBA when teams had to negotiate with the potential #1 picks. Now with the new rookie pay scale teams no longer have to worry about signing their top picks.
2017 Myles Garrett
2016 Jared Goff
2015 Jameis Winston
2014 Jadeveon Clowney
2013 Eric Fisher
2012 Andrew Luck
2011 Cam Newton
which one of these guys wasn't well known a few days before the draft? Answer = none.
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Giants better not be stupid and draft a damn RB and leave Darnold for the Jets
Hold the Jets hostage for Darnold... tell them you need their 2015 or 2017 first round pick plus 3 for Darnold at 2!!!!
So we get Leonard Williams and Jamal Adams and the number 3, sign me up for that.
I'll bet the farm that is Darnold and this is all BS flying around.
That’s correct it’s Darnold.
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Giants better not be stupid and draft a damn RB and leave Darnold for the Jets
Hold the Jets hostage for Darnold... tell them you need their 2015 or 2017 first round pick plus 3 for Darnold at 2!!!!
Why? The Giants need a QB as bad they do
Link is to posts by Browns' fans that strike me as on point as anything out there.
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Your tone is out of line. Second, if we defer to authority on everything ... then there is literally nothing to talk about or debate on BBI. Finally, the team is picking 2nd overall because despite having a pretty decent QB last year they went 3-13. Yes, i understand its mostly a new front office now... but i think its generally ok as fans to question those with "10-20 years experience" that have produced just 3 division titles since Eli was drafted in 2004.
It is dumb. It’s not a premium position. And they actually have a big need at QB. I’m sorry, taking Barkely at 2 is beyond stupid. If Eli was 30, I might have another opinion, and even then, I would look at the more premium position in Chubb.
I also don’t believe Barkely is much better than Guice or The UGA RB
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Browns know by now who they will draft. My guess is it's Darnold.
That’s correct it’s Darnold.
Wrong. It's Allen.