Heard it on my way into work this morning. Gist of their commentary was that they believe the Giants' statements they have been making since the new regime got here are true, and they believe the Giants believe what they are saying, as well. Statements about Eli having a few good years left in him, that you build a team from the inside out, that they want to keep Odell (and appear to be committed to tying themselves to paying him $17-18 mil a year)..."why would you do that if you are going to bring in a highly-drafted rookie qb?", the fact they got rid of JPP (BTW, Papa said if Giants fans put on tape of JPP from last year and watch him closely, you'd be astonished at the lack of effort) and need a dominant pass rusher, coupled with the fact that when you pick an RB that high, you will wind up paying them at the top of the wage scale (as well as when extensions are due) for a dispensible/replaceable position where there are great RB's to be had in rounds 2-4, etc.
In their eyes, all of that points to Bradley Chubb at #2.
Hahaha yeah I don’t understand that at all. They have to get a QB at some point.
You cant get young impact ER’s cheap, or anywhere but the top of the draft
It takes 2 to tango. Nobody thinks the Giants are going QB.
The line sucks, so you can't draft a QB, RB or WR until it is fixed? If the QB position is not settled, you don't keep a top flight WR?
That is just ridiculously lazy thinking. You acquire talent where it is available. You don't pass on talent because it becomes available in the wrong order.
I've got him tied behind Rosen for the #2 pick with Barkley.
Ideally, we'd get him on a trade down. If we aren't going QB, we need to get picks and a player. One of Barkley and Chubb will be there at #5. That requires a partner however.
I'd love some extra picks in the second to complete the oline rebuild, grab a RB, and take an LB or CB that can eventually start.
Chubb at 2 is too boring and chalk, a waste at the top of the draft.
Even if they couldn’t move down?
Chubb seems the safer pick. We have not put any heat on the QB since Strahan/Osi/Tuck. We have a new DC with an attack scheme and we need some attack weapons. Sounds like Chubb could be our "Von Miller". I am very happy JPP was moved and but we do need to fortify our defense.
I do not have a favorite player. I can be happy with Darnold/Rosen, Barkley, or Chubb. I only hope Gettleman makes the correct choice.
Mistake to stay and pick Chubb...
Mistake to stay and pick Chubb...
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Chubb @ 2 will piss me off.
Even if they couldn’t move down?
I just don't like the fit. I'm terrified of another square peg edge rusher. Bettcher uses enough variance that he will still probably get good milage out of a player like this - I just don't want him @ 2. I'd prefer to move down. Even if that means we wind up with Quenton Nelson instead.
Clearly not a secret. He was basically Mr. Line of Scrimmage unless he went against a rookie or backup Tackle...
Cleveland can then grab either Barkley or Chubb at 2, Giants get either Barkley or Chubb at 4 and feast on the cream of the 2nd round picks.
At least that's my dream scenario.
I brought this up on another thread...in the BBI mock draft I pick for the Colts. This year they have an extra second rounder because of their trade down to #6.
I know the BBI mock draft isn't an end all be all, but it was striking to me the quality of players that fell. I was able to get Chubb at #6, and then Sony Michel and DJ Moore at the top of the second round. And there were other really good prospects available too.
Trading down in a year where there figure to be 5 QBs in the first round is a good move. Talented players get pushed down the board.
I'm rooting pretty hard for a trade down, because I don't think the Giants are all that interested in picking a QB.
Depends... let's ask Sales and Marketing. You want jersey sales, high ratings, ticket sales and a whole new generation of Giants fans, exciting is the way to go. I've seen more Giants gear on people in California since OBJ came on the scene. A young kid I know worships OBJ and is a new Giants fan. In the long run, exciting may be the best for the franchise.
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Terps, it was never mentioned or even discussed once on the radio during games and Bob and Carl were watching the tape then.
Funny how his effort is now brought up with him no longer on the roster.
Take Nelson.
I heard it the same as you. Both agreed that what they do at #2 will reveal the truth of what the NYG really believe re how much Eli has left. Said the first round would reveal the truth about a lot of teams.
According to the link above to the Browns board - They have Chubb rated as their #1 player. If true, they would go Chubb at 4 (or 2 with a trade up).
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I'm shocked.
Terps, it was never mentioned or even discussed once on the radio during games and Bob and Carl were watching the tape then.
Funny how his effort is now brought up with him no longer on the roster.
There have been questions on JPP's effort going back to 2012. I wasn't the only guy saying it.
$15M in dead money this year...one of Jerry Reese's parting gifts. Think about this: maybe if that dead money weren't on the books it would be easier to trade/release Eli now, and we might be more likely to draft a QB.
Ugh. Anyway, I think Chubb at #2 is probably where the smart bet would be.
Take Nelson.
100%. So you miss out on Chubb and add a potential pro-bowler at a key spot AND more talent. Boo hoo.