Some Last Minute Asshattery

Darnold first
Saquon second
Rosen third
Chubb or trade down 4th.

I heard that upon further inspection with Okwara, Moss, OV and McKenzie that the team feels better at OLB and that pushed Chubb down a bit.

Darnold is almost a lock to go first and the Giants are pretty set on Barkley barring a ridiculous package to move down.

I won't say who told me, but I trust the information a great deal.

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That no matter what happens BBI is going to have a meltdown tomorrow..

I'd rather Chubb than Barkley.

In comment 13931712 Joey in VA said:

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I won't say who told me, but I trust the information a great deal.

I heard things, Joey...

It is amazing that the teams that need a QB will be drafting one, but we will be ignoring that need to draft a RB. I will be apoplectic. I appreciate the information, but I just won't believe it until it happens, because I can't believe our front office would do that, unless ownership has mandated that it go down that way.

In comment 13931712 Joey in VA said:

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Darnold first Saquon second Rosen third Chubb or trade down 4th. I heard that upon further inspection with Okwara, Moss, OV and McKenzie that the team feels better at OLB and that pushed Chubb down a bit. Darnold is almost a lock to go first and the Giants are pretty set on Barkley barring a ridiculous package to move down. I won't say who told me, but I trust the information a great deal.

Go Rosen.

In comment 13931731 darren in pdx said:

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That no matter what happens BBI is going to have a meltdown tomorrow..

There should just be an epic meltdown thread stickied ahead of time.

In comment 13931739 Mike from SI said:

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In comment 13931731 darren in pdx said: Quote: That no matter what happens BBI is going to have a meltdown tomorrow.. There should just be an epic meltdown thread stickied ahead of time.

Ha! Seconded.

Anthony Davis and it was imminent...

take of hating whoever the pick is because it's not who they thought it should be.

In comment 13931751 Ten Ton Hammer said:

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take of hating whoever the pick is because it's not who they thought it should be.

You are being kind. Some just won't hate the pick but will yell for the next 5 years that DG is incompetent.

Darnold #1 to the Browns, Barkley #2 to the Giants is expected. My educated guess leaning towards Chubb at #2 is in peril.

and said the only people who know the Giants pick is the owners, GM and HC. Nobody else knows, so unless this source is one of them, I can’t see how it’s accurate. They did say that the scouts would all try to poke holes in Barkley and his game and they just couldn’t find any. However, none of the scouts, coaches or personnel know the pick.

In comment 13931747 Jimmy Googs said:

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Anthony Davis and it was imminent...

for a conditional 6th to the 49ers...

Any other tidbits? Like a possible trade down or Think they are set on bArkley ?

In comment 13931768 JonC said:

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Darnold #1 to the Browns, Barkley #2 to the Giants is expected. My educated guess leaning towards Chubb at #2 is in peril.

Barley is exactly what Philly would prefer the NYG to do. Their assertion is the NYG cannot currently nor in the future compete with the Eagles (and Wentz) without a better QB now and moving forward.

(Courtesy of Eric in the Vacarro thread on page 2)
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Martin, I keep linking old names, I saw Kareem and McKenzie popped into my head. Apologies.

I'm not passing along nonsense or opinion ONLY what I heard. Shoot the messenger, I dare you, I double DOG dare you.

I do think if we stay @ 2, it's Barkley or Darnold. Whichever of the two CLE doesn't take. If they take neither, I think we'd take Darnold.

But maybe all of the Barkley stuff is just reality and not smoke.

If that's the direction we go, so be it.

In comment 13931768 JonC said:

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Darnold #1 to the Browns, Barkley #2 to the Giants is expected. My educated guess leaning towards Chubb at #2 is in peril.

Also, the idea that the Browns would like to bookend Chubb with Myles is popular among fans. The Browns themselves aren't. With the expectation that Barkley is gone at #2, they realize that their #4 is worth dealing more than loading up the DL with Chubb.

but if they pick Barkley this place will implode. So many armchair experts chirping about what a bad decision it would be. I love it.

does that mean the front office was just as leaky as always?

In comment 13931824 Ten Ton Hammer said:

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does that mean the front office was just as leaky as always?

no they know cleveland was going qb. they hyped barkley to maybe get browns to take him leaving us darnold

In comment 13931797 The_Boss said:

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In comment 13931768 JonC said: Quote: Darnold #1 to the Browns, Barkley #2 to the Giants is expected. My educated guess leaning towards Chubb at #2 is in peril. Barley is exactly what Philly would prefer the NYG to do. Their assertion is the NYG cannot currently nor in the future compete with the Eagles (and Wentz) without a better QB now and moving forward. (Courtesy of Eric in the Vacarro thread on page 2) Link - ( New Window )

If that doesn't clue people in as to what we should really do, I don't know what will. Eagle fans want what is worst for us. They want us to get Barkley. I have a friend that is an Eagle fan. He similarly wants us to draft Barkley. No rival fan wants the opposition to get a franchise QB.

In comment 13931824 Ten Ton Hammer said:

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does that mean the front office was just as leaky as always?

Yes

In comment 13931824 Ten Ton Hammer said:

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does that mean the front office was just as leaky as always?

I would draw the conclusion that Barkley was just too obvious. Picking #2 and he's the unanimous BPA among analysts. We have been hearing from some time that Eli has "years" left. Those that want some seamless transition like Favre/Rodgers chose to take those comments and dismiss them as subterfuge in order to conceal the real intention. But like DG said the other day, he hasn't lied since he was a child.

In comment 13931824 Ten Ton Hammer said:

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does that mean the front office was just as leaky as always?

I don't think so - because they've been tied to so many other players at this point.

I think circumstances just make it the most "obvious" choice to most people if Darnold is the first off the board (which it seems he will be)

People will frame it that way because they're desperate to prove that Reese had no control over anything ever leaking in the past, but from everything we've heard so far, Giants Central appears to be a pretty tight ship and has been throughout the process.

In comment 13931832 Giants34 said:

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In comment 13931797 The_Boss said: Quote: In comment 13931768 JonC said: Quote: Darnold #1 to the Browns, Barkley #2 to the Giants is expected. My educated guess leaning towards Chubb at #2 is in peril. Barley is exactly what Philly would prefer the NYG to do. Their assertion is the NYG cannot currently nor in the future compete with the Eagles (and Wentz) without a better QB now and moving forward. (Courtesy of Eric in the Vacarro thread on page 2) Link - ( New Window ) If that doesn't clue people in as to what we should really do, I don't know what will. Eagle fans want what is worst for us. They want us to get Barkley. I have a friend that is an Eagle fan. He similarly wants us to draft Barkley. No rival fan wants the opposition to get a franchise QB.

bs they doont want us getting either

They all lie. Especially this week. The only guy that wanted everyone to know what his plan was is Accorsi.

And for fucks sake.. are we really at the point now where we're thinking the Giants should do whatever the Eagles fans don't want them to do?

This is agonizing.

Less than 24 hours to go....

It sounds like they grab the top player in the draft.

In comment 13931839 BleedBlue said:

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In comment 13931832 Giants34 said: Quote: In comment 13931797 The_Boss said: Quote: In comment 13931768 JonC said: Quote: Darnold #1 to the Browns, Barkley #2 to the Giants is expected. My educated guess leaning towards Chubb at #2 is in peril. Barley is exactly what Philly would prefer the NYG to do. Their assertion is the NYG cannot currently nor in the future compete with the Eagles (and Wentz) without a better QB now and moving forward. (Courtesy of Eric in the Vacarro thread on page 2) Link - ( New Window ) If that doesn't clue people in as to what we should really do, I don't know what will. Eagle fans want what is worst for us. They want us to get Barkley. I have a friend that is an Eagle fan. He similarly wants us to draft Barkley. No rival fan wants the opposition to get a franchise QB. bs they doont want us getting either

Barkley wouldn’t scare them one bit. How often of late have we controlled the LOS vs their front?

is that he is a running back. All the scouts are going to tell you is that he is a great running back prospect. It's up to Gettleman to look at the big picture and realize that's not a great way to use this valuable asset.

If they truly don't believe in any of these quarterbacks they should trade down and benefit from some dopey team that desperately wants one of them.

All everyone says is that this is a fantastic, deep running back draft. Turn #2 into a handful of picks and grab one of the other backs later on. Hell, take two. Odds are one of the guys in the pack will be a better pro than Saquon anyway.


My fears about Gettleman since he was hired are: 1) He was brought in because he told Mara what he wanted to hear with regards to Eli; 2) He's just generally a dinosaur who thinks about football in a very old fashioned way.

If he takes Barkley tomorrow it will confirm my suspicions.

In comment 13931768 JonC said:

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Darnold #1 to the Browns, Barkley #2 to the Giants is expected. My educated guess leaning towards Chubb at #2 is in peril.

That makes sense. This morning's story about the Browns having cooled on Darnold was nonsense, Haslam their owner has the had the hots for Darnold since his pro day. DG doesn't trade down, so it's always been Barkley - Chubb - Rosen to pick from at 2.

In comment 13931832 Giants34 said:

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In comment 13931797 The_Boss said: Quote: In comment 13931768 JonC said: Quote: Darnold #1 to the Browns, Barkley #2 to the Giants is expected. My educated guess leaning towards Chubb at #2 is in peril. Barley is exactly what Philly would prefer the NYG to do. Their assertion is the NYG cannot currently nor in the future compete with the Eagles (and Wentz) without a better QB now and moving forward. (Courtesy of Eric in the Vacarro thread on page 2) Link - ( New Window ) If that doesn't clue people in as to what we should really do, I don't know what will. Eagle fans want what is worst for us. They want us to get Barkley. I have a friend that is an Eagle fan. He similarly wants us to draft Barkley. No rival fan wants the opposition to get a franchise QB.

You’re full of shit. I was just in Philly for work, all week. Every single Eagle fan I talked to at the local establishments feared the Giants taking Barkley more than any other player. It was insanely one sided. I couldn’t believe it but that was their feelings. They don’t want to have to face Barkley twice per season.

I have no interest in Barkley at 2, and I countered their concerns with some reality, but I’m just passing along the conversations I had with Eagles fans.

In comment 13931864 GFAN52 said:

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In comment 13931768 JonC said: Quote: Darnold #1 to the Browns, Barkley #2 to the Giants is expected. My educated guess leaning towards Chubb at #2 is in peril. That makes sense. This morning's story about the Browns having cooled on Darnold was nonsense, Haslam their owner has the had the hots for Darnold since his pro day. DG doesn't trade down, so it's always been Barkley - Chubb - Rosen to pick from at 2.

I refuse to believe we have that stupid of a front office until it actually happens. Unless this was a mandate from the owners, at which point there was no real point in hiring a GM anyway.

is a Rockland county native (and former player and scout for the Giants), that I know but haven’t talked to in a very longtime. We do share a good friend who I was talking with earlier who claims that Cleveland really will not go with Darnold at 1. He says the Mayfield/Allen story is very true and that he supposedly hears that Allen will go 1. Anyone can be wrong, and I kind of don’t buy it but other things he has told me has always been correct. He had no clue about the Giants outside of Chubb or Barkley.

Look at how their offense worked with a couple of cast off RBs that nobody wanted.

that he is guessing Chubb or Barkley to the Giants, that didn’t come from anyone.

In comment 13931773 Keith said:

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and said the only people who know the Giants pick is the owners, GM and HC. Nobody else knows, so unless this source is one of them, I can’t see how it’s accurate. They did say that the scouts would all try to poke holes in Barkley and his game and they just couldn’t find any. However, none of the scouts, coaches or personnel know the pick.

This is the way it should be, for way too long this team’s had more leaks than the Titanic!

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In comment 13931864 GFAN52 said: Quote: In comment 13931768 JonC said: Quote: Darnold #1 to the Browns, Barkley #2 to the Giants is expected. My educated guess leaning towards Chubb at #2 is in peril. That makes sense. This morning's story about the Browns having cooled on Darnold was nonsense, Haslam their owner has the had the hots for Darnold since his pro day. DG doesn't trade down, so it's always been Barkley - Chubb - Rosen to pick from at 2. I refuse to believe we have that stupid of a front office until it actually happens. Unless this was a mandate from the owners, at which point there was no real point in hiring a GM anyway.

Who you rather have Chubb or Barkley or Rosen at 2.

removed that Miss Lippy's car is green

In comment 13931839 BleedBlue said:

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In comment 13931832 Giants34 said: Quote: In comment 13931797 The_Boss said: Quote: In comment 13931768 JonC said: Quote: Darnold #1 to the Browns, Barkley #2 to the Giants is expected. My educated guess leaning towards Chubb at #2 is in peril. Barley is exactly what Philly would prefer the NYG to do. Their assertion is the NYG cannot currently nor in the future compete with the Eagles (and Wentz) without a better QB now and moving forward. (Courtesy of Eric in the Vacarro thread on page 2) Link - ( New Window ) If that doesn't clue people in as to what we should really do, I don't know what will. Eagle fans want what is worst for us. They want us to get Barkley. I have a friend that is an Eagle fan. He similarly wants us to draft Barkley. No rival fan wants the opposition to get a franchise QB. bs they doont want us getting either

So you are suggesting we base our draft strategy on what Iggles think we should or shouldn't do?

The one player they fear and do not want the Giants to draft is Barkley. The thought of Beckham and Barkley on the field together is a nightmare for them.

and not enough to trade up. So, taking the best player in the draft is a nice fallback.

Also, let’s relax with the assumption that Wentz is going to own the division. The NFCE hasn’t had repeat winners since 2003/04.

In comment 13931877 Ten Ton Hammer said:

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Look at how their offense worked with a couple of cast off RBs that nobody wanted.

Great point, and they got there on the back of a QB they gave a lot up for. Foles capped it off but Wentz was unreal

In comment 13931877 Ten Ton Hammer said:

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Look at how their offense worked with a couple of cast off RBs that nobody wanted.

The Eagles weren’t brought up, their fans were. And as I said, I don’t want Barkley, but this nonsense about pointing to one team as the only way to win has got to stop. There are plenty of ways to build championship teams. There is no “formula”.

potentially getting a stud QB that we passed on is also gonna drive me nuts. I have in-laws that always bash the Giants, I never say anything about the Jets but they go on and on as is.

you have a frustrated and depressed fan base from last yrs debacle. Any QB or other position player means another yr or 2 of 6-10 and no playoffs. Barkley is instant excitement and a 9-7 wildcard possible. What makes this town Blue again? SB.

In comment 13931865 BigBlueShock said:

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In comment 13931832 Giants34 said: Quote: In comment 13931797 The_Boss said: Quote: In comment 13931768 JonC said: Quote: Darnold #1 to the Browns, Barkley #2 to the Giants is expected. My educated guess leaning towards Chubb at #2 is in peril. Barley is exactly what Philly would prefer the NYG to do. Their assertion is the NYG cannot currently nor in the future compete with the Eagles (and Wentz) without a better QB now and moving forward. (Courtesy of Eric in the Vacarro thread on page 2) Link - ( New Window ) If that doesn't clue people in as to what we should really do, I don't know what will. Eagle fans want what is worst for us. They want us to get Barkley. I have a friend that is an Eagle fan. He similarly wants us to draft Barkley. No rival fan wants the opposition to get a franchise QB. You’re full of shit. I was just in Philly for work, all week. Every single Eagle fan I talked to at the local establishments feared the Giants taking Barkley more than any other player. It was insanely one sided. I couldn’t believe it but that was their feelings. They don’t want to have to face Barkley twice per season. I have no interest in Barkley at 2, and I countered their concerns with some reality, but I’m just passing along the conversations I had with Eagles fans.

Absolutely agree. Eagles fans want us to take Rosen. They believe their line will kill him. They fear Barkley and also he went to Penn State.