Browns continue to keep the decision on their No. 1 pick a secret, but there is a mounting belief from HCs and GMs around the league that Cleveland will take Baker Mayfield.
with the recent Allen news...does this make the #2 pick so valuable with Darnold still on the board @ #2?
Browns continue to keep the decision on their No. 1 pick a secret, but there is a mounting belief from HCs and GMs around the league that Cleveland will take Baker Mayfield.
It's a secret ... but there is "a mounting belief from ... GMs around the league"
Soooo... Schefter has access to the inside thinking of "GMs around the league" ... and, even if he did, wtf do they know about CLE intentions?
There's steam still coming off that load of crap
Another words it could still be Darnold to Browns as I think it will.
Browns continue to keep the decision on their No. 1 pick a secret, but there is a mounting belief from HCs and GMs around the league that Cleveland will take Baker Mayfield.
It's a secret ... but there is "a mounting belief from ... GMs around the league"
Soooo... Schefter has access to the inside thinking of "GMs around the league" ... and, even if he did, wtf do they know about CLE intentions?
There's steam still coming off that load of crap
This would be true if shefter was the only one reporting it
1. Cleveland Browns
Sam Darnold, QB, USC
Baker Mayfield is very much in the conversation and the front office's affinity for him has been apparent for quite some time. When new General Manager John Dorsey described his QB in a pre-draft press conference last week -- accuracy, success in the red zone, winner -- it sounded a lot like Mayfield. But I'm still skeptical the Browns pull the trigger at No. 1 on the "exception to the rule." I'm sticking with Darnold.
is due to the Giants claiming to draft Barkley at 2 and this is the only way Browns can get their pipe dream of Barkley and a QB.
Please let it be true........
You mean they'd let Darnold fall to the Giants so Barkley falls to them?
Correct. If they feel their is a negligible preference between the two QBs, but know the only player we would take at two would be Barkley unless Darnold was there and that the Jets are going to take "a QB" and the only way to guarantee the QB AND Barkley would be to go another QB route, then maybe they go with their 2nd choice.
Remember, this is a team with ONE win in 2 years. They need to start competing ASAP and Mayfield might be the most ready prospect of them all.
By Nate Ulrich
Beacon Journal/Ohio.com
The buzz about the Browns drafting Oklahoma quarterback Baker Mayfield at No. 1 overall shortly after 8 p.m. Thursday night is deafening.
But for what its worth, as of late Thursday morning, Mayfields camp had yet to hear anything from the Browns, a person familiar with the situation told the Beacon Journal/Ohio.com.
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What would they expect Mayfield's camp to say???
Yes, the Browns called and I'm #1?
Jesus H., they are not going to tell the media this directly.
It's happened before, but that was before the draft rules were adjusted. Teams used to talk contracts with #1 picks well in advance. Not sure when the last time that happened is.
I flipped past the NFL network earlier and they were talking as if this was all but a done deal. I figured I would see more information here if it was. I really wouldnt be surprised if they went with Mayfield. If I was a Browns fan it would be nice for someone to say they wanted to come there and that they were gonna be the one to turn it around.
Anyways, I just was wondering what the latest here was?
Vegas odds now at -500 for him to go #1. Safe to say its a done deal.
Doesn't that just mean that idiots betting on the draft are putting their bets on Baker thus driving Vegas to adjust the odds? I think it is literally mathamatical, not a judgment of any kind (not by Vegas anyway ... certainly a judgment by people betting money, but I'm not exactly overwhelmed by the intelligence of people betting money on the NFL draft... in fact, just the opposite, I question whether they have brains.)
Vegas odds now at -500 for him to go #1. Safe to say its a done deal.
Doesn't that just mean that idiots betting on the draft are putting their bets on Baker thus driving Vegas to adjust the odds? I think it is literally mathamatical, not a judgment of any kind (not by Vegas anyway ... certainly a judgment by people betting money, but I'm not exactly overwhelmed by the intelligence of people betting money on the NFL draft... in fact, just the opposite, I question whether they have brains.)
Idiots don't bet a lot of money. Money moves lines. A drastic jump is indicative of informed money betting.
Jackson will be the most productive QB in this draft...
That kid is a magician in the pocket with his escapability and hes willing to stand tall for plays to develop. Dont underestimate the Petrino factor here either. Thats no Big12 bullish-t offense Bob runs. Thats a pro style offense that the NFL takes seriously.
RE: RE: Noodle arm means you have never actually seen him play.
Im a much bigger believer in games played and passing production than leaning on a carnival game test of strength in non-game situations. The guy produced, a lot, at the top level.
Vegas odds now at -500 for him to go #1. Safe to say its a done deal.
Doesn't that just mean that idiots betting on the draft are putting their bets on Baker thus driving Vegas to adjust the odds? I think it is literally mathamatical, not a judgment of any kind (not by Vegas anyway ... certainly a judgment by people betting money, but I'm not exactly overwhelmed by the intelligence of people betting money on the NFL draft... in fact, just the opposite, I question whether they have brains.)
Idiots don't bet a lot of money. Money moves lines. A drastic jump is indicative of informed money betting.
So, youre saying its rigged? (I dont bet, and really know very little about it)
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Rapoport just said on NFL Network, "I just talked to another GM who's known John Dorsey well, and he said, 'he's not taking Mayfield. I know that's false.'"
I'd rather give Beckham the extension he wants than take Barkley over one of the QBs or a trade down.
Youve done a complete 180. You posted a detailed thread a few months back outlining every 1st round QB since 2005. Your motto has always been BPA regardless of position.
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Browns continue to keep the decision on their No. 1 pick a secret, but there is a mounting belief from HCs and GMs around the league that Cleveland will take Baker Mayfield.
It's a secret ... but there is "a mounting belief from ... GMs around the league"
Soooo... Schefter has access to the inside thinking of "GMs around the league" ... and, even if he did, wtf do they know about CLE intentions?
There's steam still coming off that load of crap
Another words it could still be Darnold to Browns as I think it will.
Please let it be true........
Please let it be true........
What it could come down to is whether the Browns would rather have:
Darnold and Chubb
or
Mayfield and Barkley
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Browns continue to keep the decision on their No. 1 pick a secret, but there is a mounting belief from HCs and GMs around the league that Cleveland will take Baker Mayfield.
It's a secret ... but there is "a mounting belief from ... GMs around the league"
Soooo... Schefter has access to the inside thinking of "GMs around the league" ... and, even if he did, wtf do they know about CLE intentions?
There's steam still coming off that load of crap
This would be true if shefter was the only one reporting it
Please let it be true........
1. Cleveland Browns
Sam Darnold, QB, USC
Baker Mayfield is very much in the conversation and the front office's affinity for him has been apparent for quite some time. When new General Manager John Dorsey described his QB in a pre-draft press conference last week -- accuracy, success in the red zone, winner -- it sounded a lot like Mayfield. But I'm still skeptical the Browns pull the trigger at No. 1 on the "exception to the rule." I'm sticking with Darnold.
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is due to the Giants claiming to draft Barkley at 2 and this is the only way Browns can get their pipe dream of Barkley and a QB.
Please let it be true........
You mean they'd let Darnold fall to the Giants so Barkley falls to them?
Correct. If they feel their is a negligible preference between the two QBs, but know the only player we would take at two would be Barkley unless Darnold was there and that the Jets are going to take "a QB" and the only way to guarantee the QB AND Barkley would be to go another QB route, then maybe they go with their 2nd choice.
Remember, this is a team with ONE win in 2 years. They need to start competing ASAP and Mayfield might be the most ready prospect of them all.
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Hearing there are #Jets coaches making a late push for Josh Allen. Buckle up, folks.
Now a prohibitive odds-on minus 450 favorite at betonline.
Darnold has slipped to plus 175.
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By Nate Ulrich
Beacon Journal/Ohio.com
The buzz about the Browns drafting Oklahoma quarterback Baker Mayfield at No. 1 overall shortly after 8 p.m. Thursday night is deafening.
But for what its worth, as of late Thursday morning, Mayfields camp had yet to hear anything from the Browns, a person familiar with the situation told the Beacon Journal/Ohio.com.
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What would they expect Mayfield's camp to say???
Yes, the Browns called and I'm #1?
Jesus H., they are not going to tell the media this directly.
It's happened before, but that was before the draft rules were adjusted. Teams used to talk contracts with #1 picks well in advance. Not sure when the last time that happened is.
Anyways, I just was wondering what the latest here was?
Doesn't that just mean that idiots betting on the draft are putting their bets on Baker thus driving Vegas to adjust the odds? I think it is literally mathamatical, not a judgment of any kind (not by Vegas anyway ... certainly a judgment by people betting money, but I'm not exactly overwhelmed by the intelligence of people betting money on the NFL draft... in fact, just the opposite, I question whether they have brains.)
But man I really like rosen..
Lombardis history of picking QBs is less successful than Ray Handley coaching era
He doesnt have a lot of zip. Combine proved it.
ITA.
Hearing him speak?
Facinating.
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Vegas odds now at -500 for him to go #1. Safe to say its a done deal.
Doesn't that just mean that idiots betting on the draft are putting their bets on Baker thus driving Vegas to adjust the odds? I think it is literally mathamatical, not a judgment of any kind (not by Vegas anyway ... certainly a judgment by people betting money, but I'm not exactly overwhelmed by the intelligence of people betting money on the NFL draft... in fact, just the opposite, I question whether they have brains.)
Idiots don't bet a lot of money. Money moves lines. A drastic jump is indicative of informed money betting.
That kid is a magician in the pocket with his escapability and hes willing to stand tall for plays to develop. Dont underestimate the Petrino factor here either. Thats no Big12 bullish-t offense Bob runs. Thats a pro style offense that the NFL takes seriously.
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He doesnt have a lot of zip. Combine proved it.
Im a much bigger believer in games played and passing production than leaning on a carnival game test of strength in non-game situations. The guy produced, a lot, at the top level.
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Vegas odds now at -500 for him to go #1. Safe to say its a done deal.
Doesn't that just mean that idiots betting on the draft are putting their bets on Baker thus driving Vegas to adjust the odds? I think it is literally mathamatical, not a judgment of any kind (not by Vegas anyway ... certainly a judgment by people betting money, but I'm not exactly overwhelmed by the intelligence of people betting money on the NFL draft... in fact, just the opposite, I question whether they have brains.)
Idiots don't bet a lot of money. Money moves lines. A drastic jump is indicative of informed money betting.
So, youre saying its rigged? (I dont bet, and really know very little about it)
Facinating.
Oddly enough, people once said that same thing about Aaron Rodgers and Jeff Teford/CAL.
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Rapoport just said on NFL Network, "I just talked to another GM who's known John Dorsey well, and he said, 'he's not taking Mayfield. I know that's false.'"
Round and round we go....
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You'd think we were drafting Aaron Rodgers... College turnover machine from a college that hasn't churned out a good NFL QB since Carson Palmer lol.
Facinating.
Oddly enough, people once said that same thing about Aaron Rodgers and Jeff Teford/CAL.
That's Facinating as well. Man I can't wait! 30+ more minutes! Then we can spend months debating if the G-Men made the right call!
Well BBI told me he should be traded, so that means SB will be drafted by the team to whom we are trading Beckham.
And signing Dez Bryant, Johnny Manziel, Trey Songz, Justin Bieber, Christiano Ronaldo, Neymar, and a big booty French girl.
As a proponent of BPA, Im curious why youre against Barkley. The guy is the consensus best player in the draft
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Well, Beckham just posted a picture of him from his draft day and tagged Barkley, so.... obviously were taking him.
And signing Dez Bryant, Johnny Manziel, Trey Songz, Justin Bieber, Christiano Ronaldo, Neymar, and a big booty French girl.
Keep big booty French chick, toss Manziel. Everything else is a net positive and makes the roster better.
Youve done a complete 180. You posted a detailed thread a few months back outlining every 1st round QB since 2005. Your motto has always been BPA regardless of position.
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I'd rather give Beckham the extension he wants than take Barkley over one of the QBs or a trade down.
As a proponent of BPA, Im curious why youre against Barkley. The guy is the consensus best player in the draft
I'm not sure he is.
No a RB isn't worth the 2nd pick.
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What if he is? Is the pick worth it then?
No a RB isn't worth the 2nd pick.
Amen
How could you sit there with a straight face and say you wouldn't want the best player in the draft because he's a running back?
Some of you make it sound like we're taking a punter.