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Thoughts on draft and that Mayfield at #1 would change

jvm52106 : 4/26/2018 10:42 am
the draft playing field. It makes that whisper of a 3 team trade far more plausible. It certainly opens the door to a team who is looking to move up for a QB to possible give up the farm to move up.

Hearing Lance Zerlein (sp) saying he thinks McGlinchy is going to the Raiders at 10.

He said Nelson could go #4 to Cleveland or drop to Bears at #8.

He also said that Barkley might be best player in the draft but dropoff to next RB is that far. However, Chubb is the best Pass Rusher and it isn't close to the next guy...
isn't  
jvm52106 : 4/26/2018 10:44 am : link
that far I mean.
This is via Opening Drive  
jvm52106 : 4/26/2018 10:45 am : link
on Sirius right now.

Just said Quenton Nelson the most dominate run blocking Olinemen since Larry Allen.
If Mayfield is their target  
George : 4/26/2018 10:51 am : link
the Browns shouldn't spend #1 on him; he can be had at #4.

I wouldn't be surprised if they either traded out or - horrors - took Barkley at #1.
It's Darnold  
fanofthejets : 4/26/2018 10:52 am : link
Dorsey is sending out these conflicting stories to underlings trying to find the leaks in his organization. Allen and Mayfield have been floated this week and none are a possibility. Dorsey just wants to see who's talking.
RE: If Mayfield is their target  
Jay on the Island : 4/26/2018 10:54 am : link
In comment 13933171 George said:
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the Browns shouldn't spend #1 on him; he can be had at #4.

I wouldn't be surprised if they either traded out or - horrors - took Barkley at #1.

Not true at all. The Jets are reportedly going to take him at 3.
RE: It's Darnold  
Sammo85 : 4/26/2018 10:55 am : link
In comment 13933174 fanofthejets said:
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Dorsey is sending out these conflicting stories to underlings trying to find the leaks in his organization. Allen and Mayfield have been floated this week and none are a possibility. Dorsey just wants to see who's talking.


More likely is Dorsey is the one who is talking to Schefter and King.
Well  
George : 4/26/2018 10:56 am : link
A) the latest scuttlebutt is that the Jets like Rosen better.
and
B) if the Jets picked Mayfield, I'm sure the Browns would be happy with Darnold, Rosen, or Allen as a consolation prize; especially with Saquon Barkley already in the fold.
Mary Kay Cabbott talking about Browns and Darnold/Mayfield  
jvm52106 : 4/26/2018 10:58 am : link
said she feels the Browns cooled on Darnold earlier than what it appears. Again, who knows for sure.
One thing to keep in mind  
Jay on the Island : 4/26/2018 11:01 am : link
Dorsey just told Hue Jackson who they were going to take 1st overall. Now these reports emerge that Mayfield is the guy. Is the source Jackson or is Dorsey leaking false info?
in my opinion  
3rdnlong : 4/26/2018 11:02 am : link
All this talk from Cleveland and NYJ are smokescreens. We won't know the truth until the pick is in.
Ok, one question  
jvm52106 : 4/26/2018 11:13 am : link
why would Cleveland need to smokescreen? They have the number pick. Smokescreen means nothing unless they draft Barkley or Chubb at #1.
RE: RE: It's Darnold  
fanofthejets : 4/26/2018 11:17 am : link
In comment 13933187 Sammo85 said:
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In comment 13933174 fanofthejets said:


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Dorsey is sending out these conflicting stories to underlings trying to find the leaks in his organization. Allen and Mayfield have been floated this week and none are a possibility. Dorsey just wants to see who's talking.



More likely is Dorsey is the one who is talking to Schefter and King.


Guess time will tell. Darnold in his brown tie going to the Giants will be something else. Cleveland even had him sign helmets when he visited a week ago. odd
RE: Ok, one question  
fanofthejets : 4/26/2018 11:20 am : link
In comment 13933274 jvm52106 said:
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why would Cleveland need to smokescreen? They have the number pick. Smokescreen means nothing unless they draft Barkley or Chubb at #1.


Reason is perhaps Dorsey knows 100% the Giants are not taking a QB. Now he can bait the Jets knowing how much we want Mayfield. He can have us jump to 1, secure Mayfield. Browns fall to 3 and have Darnold waiting for them whom they wanted all along.

Chris Mortensen  
jvm52106 : 4/26/2018 11:21 am : link
is saying right now this idea that the Mayfield pick rumor is a change is just not true. He feels Dorsey made up his mind weeks ago. The feeling in many circles is that Mayfield is the guy the Browns are going with.

Watch Buffalo now....
RE: RE: Ok, one question  
jvm52106 : 4/26/2018 11:22 am : link
In comment 13933300 fanofthejets said:
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In comment 13933274 jvm52106 said:


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why would Cleveland need to smokescreen? They have the number pick. Smokescreen means nothing unless they draft Barkley or Chubb at #1.



Reason is perhaps Dorsey knows 100% the Giants are not taking a QB. Now he can bait the Jets knowing how much we want Mayfield. He can have us jump to 1, secure Mayfield. Browns fall to 3 and have Darnold waiting for them whom they wanted all along.


You are over thinking it. The Jets have nothing to move up with.
Chubb is the best Pass Rusher ...  
Torrag : 4/26/2018 11:23 am : link
...False. Chubb is the best overall defender and DL. Landry is the best pass rusher.
Mort just had to say to the  
jvm52106 : 4/26/2018 11:24 am : link
show is on, call me back in two minutes (had to take a call coming in).. Regardless of what it is, stuff like that today feels like breaking news on its way.

Draft day is a ton of fun.
RE: Chubb is the best Pass Rusher ...  
jvm52106 : 4/26/2018 11:25 am : link
In comment 13933320 Torrag said:
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...False. Chubb is the best overall defender and DL. Landry is the best pass rusher.


Not according to many..
RE: RE: RE: Ok, one question  
fanofthejets : 4/26/2018 11:25 am : link
In comment 13933314 jvm52106 said:
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In comment 13933300 fanofthejets said:


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In comment 13933274 jvm52106 said:


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why would Cleveland need to smokescreen? They have the number pick. Smokescreen means nothing unless they draft Barkley or Chubb at #1.



Reason is perhaps Dorsey knows 100% the Giants are not taking a QB. Now he can bait the Jets knowing how much we want Mayfield. He can have us jump to 1, secure Mayfield. Browns fall to 3 and have Darnold waiting for them whom they wanted all along.




You are over thinking it. The Jets have nothing to move up with.


They do. Just depends on how badly they want it.
I just hope the Browns  
Hades07 : 4/26/2018 11:26 am : link
take neither Darnold nor Barkley so they are at least options for the Giants. If they take someone else with those two there at least they had the option of who I think are the best player and QB in the draft and have conviction on the player they actually took.

I wasn't a big fan of Floyd and was ok with Conklin, but I did not like what appeared to be the Giants settling instead of getting a player they sought.
Jets are not trading up!  
ZogZerg : 4/26/2018 11:29 am : link
That makes absolutely NO SENSE!
RE: If Mayfield is their target  
AcesUp : 4/26/2018 11:31 am : link
In comment 13933171 George said:
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the Browns shouldn't spend #1 on him; he can be had at #4.

I wouldn't be surprised if they either traded out or - horrors - took Barkley at #1.


Not true at all. Jets favor Mayfield. Bronco love Mayfield and can trade up. I think the latest news and rumors prove that he's had a much grade among NFL people than the Draftnik community. Worse than even odds he's there at 4 and it's not the kind of gamble you take when looking at a franchise QB.
The biggest flaw in the arguments  
jvm52106 : 4/26/2018 11:46 am : link
here by many is that rumors suddenly are so wrong because this guy is rated here or there... We have no idea how 1 , let alone 32 teams have these guys rated. Medicals, attitudes, NEEDS, all play a role in how guys are ranked on draft boards.
Smol pirate  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 4/26/2018 12:30 pm : link
Is so Browns.
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