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NFT: Mets at Cardinals Game 3. Battle of the aces for the series

ZGiants98 : 4/26/2018 11:18 am
Mets Lineup

Brandon Nimmo – CF
Yoenis Cespedes – LF
Asdrubal Cabrera – 2B
Jay Bruce – RF
Todd Frazier – 3B
Adrian Gonzalez – 1B
Tomas Nido – C
Noah Syndergaard – RHP
Amed Rosario – SS

Cardinals Lineup

Matt Carpenter – 3B
Tommy Pham – CF
Jose Martinez – 1B
Marcell Ozuna – LF
Dexter Fowler – RF
Paul DeJong – SS
Kolten Wong – 2B
Francisco Pena – C
Carlos Martinez – RHP

LGM!!
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Here we go again  
Rflairr : 4/26/2018 3:00 pm : link
Get the SF here. Jeesh
Finally  
Rflairr : 4/26/2018 3:01 pm : link
Yo!
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arcarsenal : 4/26/2018 3:02 pm : link
That 2nd run might be all we need.

I want to see Thor finish this himself. The PC is fine.
Yo and Bruce seem to be coming out of it  
ZGiants98 : 4/26/2018 3:04 pm : link
Awesome.
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arcarsenal : 4/26/2018 3:10 pm : link
Guess I spoke too soon. :/
Summarizes Thor’s seSon right there  
Shecky : 4/26/2018 3:11 pm : link
CEO’s SHOULD have made that catch. And Ozuna with a cheap hit. A run in and inning still going.
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arcarsenal : 4/26/2018 3:13 pm : link
Guess we will need Familia today after all.

Paul DeJong... of course.
I hate this Cardinals team  
ZGiants98 : 4/26/2018 3:14 pm : link
Yuck.
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arcarsenal : 4/26/2018 3:18 pm : link
Should still be able to go from Thor > Familia
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arcarsenal : 4/26/2018 3:33 pm : link
What the fuck is wrong with our fielders. So many errors. Rosario has to make that play.
Defense has been appalling lately..  
ZGiants98 : 4/26/2018 3:36 pm : link
Second worst D in the league at the moment.
Wouldn't have to worry about these little defensive miscues if  
PhiPsi125 : 4/26/2018 3:37 pm : link
the team could hit a lick. It's embarrassing.
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arcarsenal : 4/26/2018 3:40 pm : link
Noah and Jake must be thrilled.

No matter how well they pitch, they can't get wins.
Jeesh  
Rflairr : 4/26/2018 3:42 pm : link
Oh well. Jerys would have blown it anyway
I've been saying this for years...I can't understand why any pitcher  
PhiPsi125 : 4/26/2018 3:43 pm : link
would ever want to play for the Mets. This has been going on for years and doesn't look any different this year.

Pitching for the Mets only guarantees you Tommy John surgery and losses.
Another game where their inability  
Rflairr : 4/26/2018 3:45 pm : link
To get a SF, is going to cost them a win
Sucks to give  
Metnut : 4/26/2018 3:45 pm : link
up the lead, but this is a tie game on the road versus a playoff contender. Let's get the W. Ugly wins still count.
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arcarsenal : 4/26/2018 4:19 pm : link
Great AB, Fraze.

Gotta get Bruce home.
Lobaton on deck  
Eric on Li : 4/26/2018 4:22 pm : link
not worth pitching to AGon. Is there anyone who can pH?
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arcarsenal : 4/26/2018 4:22 pm : link
Lobaton... LOL. Forget it.
RE: .  
Eric on Li : 4/26/2018 4:23 pm : link
In comment 13934514 arcarsenal said:
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Lobaton... LOL. Forget it.


someone needs to tell him to lean into one.
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arcarsenal : 4/26/2018 4:24 pm : link
Maybe we'll get lucky and Gregerson will throw two more balls before he gets a strike over where Lobaton will get himself out
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arcarsenal : 4/26/2018 4:25 pm : link
LOL.. how do you walk Lobaton?!?
wow walking Lobaton with the bases loaded is pathetic  
Eric on Li : 4/26/2018 4:26 pm : link
that might be the biggest gift we get all year.
Wow...  
ZGiants98 : 4/26/2018 4:26 pm : link
So Familia isn’t the only closer in baseball to blow a game? Walk Lobaton? Seriously?
C'mon  
Pete in MD : 4/26/2018 4:27 pm : link
Jose, get some insurance runs to save my blood pressure for a day.
I can't believe Lobaton didn't let himself get hit on ball 3  
Eric on Li : 4/26/2018 4:27 pm : link
I thought that was a huge mistake.
For a guy who can't hit  
Mike in NY : 4/26/2018 4:27 pm : link
Lobaton sure seems to draw an inordinate number of walks
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arcarsenal : 4/26/2018 4:29 pm : link
Reyes is terrible. LOL.

Alright 27 - finish it up.
This would be solid win  
Chris684 : 4/26/2018 4:30 pm : link
and solid series win if they can close it out.
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arcarsenal : 4/26/2018 4:36 pm : link
2 down. 1 to go.
If this team never sees  
Chris684 : 4/26/2018 4:38 pm : link
Tommy Pham, Kolten Wong or DeJong again it will be too soon.
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arcarsenal : 4/26/2018 4:39 pm : link
Jose Martinez has been a pain in the fucking ass too. Hope we can get him here.
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arcarsenal : 4/26/2018 4:40 pm : link
Of course not.

Lagares should have caught that.
Same old mets  
spike : 4/26/2018 4:41 pm : link
Familia has been disappointing
Wtf.  
ZGiants98 : 4/26/2018 4:41 pm : link
This Cardinals team is brutal.
RE: Same old mets  
spike : 4/26/2018 4:41 pm : link
In comment 13934587 spike said:
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Familia has been disappointing


Same for Lagares
I'm turning my full attention to the draft for the rest of the day  
Chris684 : 4/26/2018 4:42 pm : link
I've had my fill of this type of misery with the last 2 deGrom outings.

I don't need to watch another one today.
Knew he would eventually do it  
Rflairr : 4/26/2018 4:42 pm : link
Damn it Jeurys.
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arcarsenal : 4/26/2018 4:43 pm : link
Lagares is a plus defender - he needs to catch that ball. He's made tougher catches than that 50 times.

But I know this thread is going to turn into a Famila hate fest again and no one will say a word about the shitty defense.
If Lagares  
pjcas18 : 4/26/2018 4:43 pm : link
can't play defense he has very little value.

that was misplayed.

RE: .  
Mike in NY : 4/26/2018 4:49 pm : link
In comment 13934604 arcarsenal said:
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Lagares is a plus defender - he needs to catch that ball. He's made tougher catches than that 50 times.

But I know this thread is going to turn into a Famila hate fest again and no one will say a word about the shitty defense.


Or the fact that we are 0 for 7 with RISP and have left 11 men on base
This team could find a way to fuck up an ice cream sundae  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/26/2018 4:50 pm : link
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RE: RE: .  
arcarsenal : 4/26/2018 4:50 pm : link
In comment 13934623 Mike in NY said:
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In comment 13934604 arcarsenal said:


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Lagares is a plus defender - he needs to catch that ball. He's made tougher catches than that 50 times.

But I know this thread is going to turn into a Famila hate fest again and no one will say a word about the shitty defense.



Or the fact that we are 0 for 7 with RISP and have left 11 men on base


Yep. Abysmal situational hitting.
Its not a familia hate fest  
bhill410 : 4/26/2018 5:02 pm : link
but people refer to him as elite and three blown saves in a month does not equal elite to me. He is better than anything else we have had since wagner and he was scary himself at times. Any closer in NY is going to be held to an unfair level because of Mariano for all those years, but we should not inflate his production when he is zipping sliders around and looking awesome because he does have his hiccups.
Familia is a good  
Metnut : 4/26/2018 5:08 pm : link
closer but not elite. His K% and FIP are a notch worse than the best guys in MLB and always have been.

Still, if we lose today it's not his fault. Past two blown saves by him have been a single run given up and a defensive play or two could've saved the run from scoring.
Hard to believe how quickly this team went from  
Rob in Rockaway : 4/26/2018 5:43 pm : link
one where you felt they would find a way to win, to one where you feel they will find a way to lose.
they're an improved but still flawed roster  
Eric on Li : 4/26/2018 5:56 pm : link
the 50-50 plays were all going their way the first few weeks, now many are going against them. The BP was perfect for a few weeks, now it's shown a few cracks.

The blame is shared all the way around the roster. Defensive miscues have been a constant for years, but today those miscues came from 2 of their best defensive players (Lagares and Rosario) so it's hard to point to anything other than lack of execution.

I guess that's the bottomline - they need to execute. Relievers need to stop walking people. Defenders need to stop making mistakes. Starters need to give the team a chance to win. Hitters need to deliver with men on. This team isn't a finished product and it has a lot more potential than the previous year's iterations because it's more balanced. But balance alone won't win games - some of those facets of the team need to execute better than other team to win a game. We've seen flashes across the board but has a single facet of the team been consistently strong all year (SP, RP, hitting, defense)?
RE: Its not a familia hate fest  
arcarsenal : 4/26/2018 7:03 pm : link
In comment 13934668 bhill410 said:
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but people refer to him as elite and three blown saves in a month does not equal elite to me. He is better than anything else we have had since wagner and he was scary himself at times. Any closer in NY is going to be held to an unfair level because of Mariano for all those years, but we should not inflate his production when he is zipping sliders around and looking awesome because he does have his hiccups.


Elite.. not elite.. who cares. He's good. He's been good. And there are a lot of teams in baseball who don't have an option nearly as good as him.

The Cardinals themselves just shelled out like 15M for Greg Holland but still have Bud Norris closing games because they haven't been able to get someone to nail that spot down for them lately. They've had a billion guys close for them in recent years... Salas, Motte, Rosenthal, Oh, etc.

We should have won this game today.
Lagares said  
pjcas18 : 4/26/2018 7:06 pm : link
he "had no shot" at that ball.

I think he deserves the benefit of the doubt, but sure looked on TV like he misplayed it. Seemed like he thought he was closer to the wall than he was and in addition miss timed his jump.
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