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Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/26/2018 5:54 pm
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RE: If they take Barkley  
Sean : 4/26/2018 7:35 pm : link
In comment 13935013 PetesHereNow said:
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Why does it have to be a win now move? If you believe hes the best player in the draft, you take him. What has gotten this franchise in trouble is overvaluing guys like Flowers, Richburg, and Pugh. Then, you add in the fact that top picks like Phillips, Nicks, and Wilson had their careers shortened by injury. Even a guy like Cruz was thought to be a cornerstone and got hurt. No team can survive losing top guys like that.

You become a winner again by adding top players to your roster. Take the best player on your board.


Agreed.
RE: this  
Diver_Down : 4/26/2018 7:36 pm : link
In comment 13935027 Eric from BBI said:
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draft night might not end early. I would not be shocked if Gettleman trades up late into the 1st round.


Especially if the run on OL starts earlier than expected.
If  
AcidTest : 4/26/2018 7:36 pm : link
accurate, the Buffalo offer isn't enough, but my point is that if Darnold is still on the board, other teams will want to come up to #2. My concern is that the apparent institutional opposition to trading down causes the Giants to ask for ridiculous amounts in exchange, even if the other team is coming up for a QB.
RE: this  
yankeeslover : 4/26/2018 7:36 pm : link
In comment 13935027 Eric from BBI said:
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draft night might not end early. I would not be shocked if Gettleman trades up late into the 1st round.


^^^^^^This^^^^^^, I wouldnt turn off the tv early tonight
RE: .  
PetesHereNow : 4/26/2018 7:37 pm : link
In comment 13935019 Go Terps said:
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I'm sorry, but I can't be convinced that Barkley > the players we would get with those picks.


If Barkley is the equivalent of a Elliott whos not an asshole, hes worth a damn lot. If hes that good, it would take 2 or 3 big hits on the other trade down picks.
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arcarsenal : 4/26/2018 7:38 pm : link
The Giants should take the player they believe is the best player and the one who will help them the most. Regardless of position.

If they don't take a QB, that doesn't have to mean it's a mindset about trying to win now or that they're completely overshooting on what they think Eli has left or putting too many eggs in Webb's basket when they shouldn't be putting any in it.

It might just mean that they don't view the guys on the board as being worth it.

There are no guarantees. I think it's a really good QB class but maybe the Giants FO doesn't see it the same way. Maybe they think the QB prospects available to them are too flawed or won't pan out.

I'd like to take a QB... but if Gettleman takes Barkley or Chubb, so be it. It means they've identified that guy as the best player and think he will provide the most value to the Giants.
Barkley was a phenomenal RB in college  
dpinzow : 4/26/2018 7:38 pm : link
possibly the best prospect at that position since Adrian Peterson. However he better be Emmitt Smith or Walter Payton good to merit the #2 pick
Elliot himself wasnt worth a 2 overall  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/26/2018 7:38 pm : link
And the entire league knew he was the best RB in the draft. His play surprised no one.
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jintz4life : 4/26/2018 7:40 pm : link
i just cant believe management is dumb enough to take a rb #2 when a quarter of the league is trying to trade up to get an opportunity to take a potential franchise qb
RE: My confidence in this franchise is going to be deeply shaken  
The_Boss : 4/26/2018 7:41 pm : link
In comment 13934937 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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If after the last five years of chasing one more run, theyre going to try again.


This.
Enough of it.
Giants pick  
Marty866b : 4/26/2018 7:42 pm : link
Now seems anti-climatic. We all expect Barkley. Doesn't appear anyone else is in play and it's not in our blood to trade down ever.
Steve Smith has to be the worst  
Boatie Warrant : 4/26/2018 7:42 pm : link
Commentator since Warren Sapp
RE: Oh no......Eric.  
Percy : 4/26/2018 7:43 pm : link
In comment 13934861 George from PA said:
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Please tell her.....that the BBI community truly appreciate her sacrifice

Mine's B'day is 2d Q tax day in June. Sorry to learn of your own variation on this. I join in thanking your wife!
RE: Giants pick  
yankeeslover : 4/26/2018 7:43 pm : link
In comment 13935066 Marty866b said:
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Now seems anti-climatic. We all expect Barkley. Doesn't appear anyone else is in play and it's not in our blood to trade down ever.

Was just thinking the same thing. Seems like everything pointing to Barkley.
But how is it chasing one more run if they take Barkley?  
PetesHereNow : 4/26/2018 7:44 pm : link
Forget Eli. Lets assume that we take Barkley. Isnt it better for the next quarterback to have a generational running back to help the next NYG QB?
RE: Elliot himself wasnt worth a 2 overall  
LeftHook : 4/26/2018 7:45 pm : link
In comment 13935050 Ten Ton Hammer said:
[quote] And the entire league knew he was the best RB in the draft. His play surprised no one. [/quote\
And too put Elliot behind a great O line. Speaks volumes
Lets get this show on the road.  
SJGiant : 4/26/2018 7:45 pm : link
Lets get ready to RUMBLE. ....
This place will be an abomination  
djm : 4/26/2018 7:46 pm : link
After pick 2 if its not a qb that everyone wants. And everyone wants someone different.

Eric I hope you stocked up on roach and bug bombs because this place will be infested soon enough!

Heres hoping everyone is happy with the pick after years of great play.
Elliot, Gurley, FOurnette, Bell, even Melvin Gordon are all worth  
PatersonPlank : 4/26/2018 7:46 pm : link
top picks. Of course a RB can be worth the #2 pick.

I can't believe people will be getting that upset, to the point of not trusting the team or being a Giants fan, if the Giants pick the player who is considered by many the elite player in this draft.Its not like we are taking a 3rd round talent with the pick.
Elliot  
Sammo85 : 4/26/2018 7:46 pm : link
also has run behind one of the most dominant offensive lines in football and the best run blocking group Ive seen in the last 15 plus years.

Have fun watching Barkley get five or six negative runs a game with our line and noodle armed old QB.
Happy Draft  
Thegratefulhead : 4/26/2018 7:46 pm : link
Happy draft motherfukers it's been fun debating this with you all even the people I've disagreed with. I get a lot of enjoyment out of BBI. Anyway this is me wishing all of you a really good time. Peace
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/26/2018 7:47 pm : link

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he #Giants have been set on making the pick at No. 2. Could they rethink it? Im told the #Broncos are expected to explore trading up from No. 5 to No. 2. Possible early fireworks. QB would be the target.
here we go  
CromartiesKid21 : 4/26/2018 7:47 pm : link
The #Giants have been set on making the pick at No. 2. Could they rethink it? Im told the #Broncos are expected to explore trading up from No. 6 to No. 2. Possible early fireworks. QB would be the target.
NFL network saying Bronco's actively trying to get  
bigbluescot : 4/26/2018 7:47 pm : link
2.
Broncos have 5th  
CromartiesKid21 : 4/26/2018 7:47 pm : link
pick tho
Eh, what does Elway know about QBing anyway?  
bceagle05 : 4/26/2018 7:48 pm : link
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Rapoport reporting broncos trying for 2  
Chris684 : 4/26/2018 7:48 pm : link
Wanted that all along!
RE: NFL network saying Bronco's actively trying to get  
The_Boss : 4/26/2018 7:48 pm : link
In comment 13935097 bigbluescot said:
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Again other teams want these QBs. I dont get why Gettleman doesnt, per most of what weve seen.
All of a sudden it dawned on them  
bceagle05 : 4/26/2018 7:49 pm : link
to try and trade up? Nothing like waiting til the last minute.
I would be okay trading for 5  
Mike in NY : 4/26/2018 7:49 pm : link
As long as the return is reasonable or better
we do that trade with Broncos  
yankeeslover : 4/26/2018 7:49 pm : link
then you have to think it will be Chubb as Barkley will go 4
Gettleman has the yips....  
bw in dc : 4/26/2018 7:49 pm : link
Doesnt have the courage to go QB.
5 could still  
CromartiesKid21 : 4/26/2018 7:49 pm : link
land rosen/allen/chubb/nelson
RE: I would be okay trading for 5  
Steve in South Jersey : 4/26/2018 7:49 pm : link
In comment 13935113 Mike in NY said:
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As long as the return is reasonable or better


trading to #5 would be great
Denver wants our second overall pick  
djm : 4/26/2018 7:49 pm : link
Based on Nfl network
RE: we do that trade with Broncos  
Sammo85 : 4/26/2018 7:50 pm : link
In comment 13935114 yankeeslover said:
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then you have to think it will be Chubb as Barkley will go 4


Browns may trade out to the Bills.
Trading back with Denver will be perfect  
George from PA : 4/26/2018 7:50 pm : link
Will almost force Buffalo to trade with Cleveland...

Giving the Giants their choice...

Assuming going non-QB
RE: 5 could still  
The_Boss : 4/26/2018 7:50 pm : link
In comment 13935116 CromartiesKid21 said:
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land rosen/allen/chubb/nelson


Rosen is going to be a Jet.
RE: RE: NFL network saying Bronco's actively trying to get  
bigbluescot : 4/26/2018 7:50 pm : link
In comment 13935106 The_Boss said:
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In comment 13935097 bigbluescot said:


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Again other teams want these QBs. I dont get why Gettleman doesnt, per most of what weve seen.


I don't know. I can make an argument for and against each of the top 4 QB's. But if you're not taking one then moving to 5 is a no brainer. It just is. You might lose out on Barkley but you get Chubb or Nelson.
RE: RE: Elliot himself wasnt worth a 2 overall  
PetesHereNow : 4/26/2018 7:50 pm : link
In comment 13935081 LeftHook said:
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In comment 13935050 Ten Ton Hammer said:
[quote] And the entire league knew he was the best RB in the draft. His play surprised no one. [/quote\
And too put Elliot behind a great O line. Speaks volumes


The line will be a lot better with a vet like Solder. Omameh is young and at least serviceable. Jones is okay and should be ascending. Wheeler should be better in his second year. Still need reinforcements in rd 2 or 3.
What happened to Mort?  
Beer Man : 4/26/2018 7:51 pm : link
He looks and sounds terrible.
Gentlemen keeps stepping away...  
bw in dc : 4/26/2018 7:51 pm : link
from his three foot putt.

Hes going to bogey the hole...
Been gone all day and havent had time to read through everything  
UConn4523 : 4/26/2018 7:52 pm : link
but pick 1 is on the clock at 9pm, right?
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arcarsenal : 4/26/2018 7:52 pm : link
Denver is the trade partner I wanted.

If they're offering a good haul to move up to 2 we should do that. We will still get a great player @ 5.
It's in 8 minutes.  
Dodge : 4/26/2018 7:52 pm : link
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RE: What happened to Mort?  
PetesHereNow : 4/26/2018 7:52 pm : link
In comment 13935131 Beer Man said:
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He looks and sounds terrible.


Hes fighting throat cancer.
Put Accorsi on the phone  
bceagle05 : 4/26/2018 7:52 pm : link
to tell Elway to go fuck himself.
RE: What happened to Mort?  
arcarsenal : 4/26/2018 7:52 pm : link
In comment 13935131 Beer Man said:
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He looks and sounds terrible.


Cancer.
If the Giants get to 5  
Chris684 : 4/26/2018 7:53 pm : link
And have Barkley-Chubb-Nelson on the board they would have played the game perfectly.

They would be guaranteed a stab at the top 3 prospects in the draft and gotten paid for the privelage.
RE: Denver wants our second overall pick  
Diver_Down : 4/26/2018 7:53 pm : link
In comment 13935120 djm said:
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Based on Nfl network


When Elway is done blowing DG, Mara and Tisch are lined up behind. GTFO.
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