Why does it have to be a win now move? If you believe hes the best player in the draft, you take him. What has gotten this franchise in trouble is overvaluing guys like Flowers, Richburg, and Pugh. Then, you add in the fact that top picks like Phillips, Nicks, and Wilson had their careers shortened by injury. Even a guy like Cruz was thought to be a cornerstone and got hurt. No team can survive losing top guys like that.
You become a winner again by adding top players to your roster. Take the best player on your board.
accurate, the Buffalo offer isn't enough, but my point is that if Darnold is still on the board, other teams will want to come up to #2. My concern is that the apparent institutional opposition to trading down causes the Giants to ask for ridiculous amounts in exchange, even if the other team is coming up for a QB.
I'm sorry, but I can't be convinced that Barkley > the players we would get with those picks.
If Barkley is the equivalent of a Elliott whos not an asshole, hes worth a damn lot. If hes that good, it would take 2 or 3 big hits on the other trade down picks.
The Giants should take the player they believe is the best player and the one who will help them the most. Regardless of position.
If they don't take a QB, that doesn't have to mean it's a mindset about trying to win now or that they're completely overshooting on what they think Eli has left or putting too many eggs in Webb's basket when they shouldn't be putting any in it.
It might just mean that they don't view the guys on the board as being worth it.
There are no guarantees. I think it's a really good QB class but maybe the Giants FO doesn't see it the same way. Maybe they think the QB prospects available to them are too flawed or won't pan out.
I'd like to take a QB... but if Gettleman takes Barkley or Chubb, so be it. It means they've identified that guy as the best player and think he will provide the most value to the Giants.
i just cant believe management is dumb enough to take a rb #2 when a quarter of the league is trying to trade up to get an opportunity to take a potential franchise qb
RE: My confidence in this franchise is going to be deeply shaken
In comment 13935050 Ten Ton Hammer said:
[quote] And the entire league knew he was the best RB in the draft. His play surprised no one. [/quote\
And too put Elliot behind a great O line. Speaks volumes
top picks. Of course a RB can be worth the #2 pick.
I can't believe people will be getting that upset, to the point of not trusting the team or being a Giants fan, if the Giants pick the player who is considered by many the elite player in this draft.Its not like we are taking a 3rd round talent with the pick.
Happy draft motherfukers it's been fun debating this with you all even the people I've disagreed with. I get a lot of enjoyment out of BBI. Anyway this is me wishing all of you a really good time. Peace
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he #Giants have been set on making the pick at No. 2. Could they rethink it? Im told the #Broncos are expected to explore trading up from No. 5 to No. 2. Possible early fireworks. QB would be the target.
The #Giants have been set on making the pick at No. 2. Could they rethink it? Im told the #Broncos are expected to explore trading up from No. 6 to No. 2. Possible early fireworks. QB would be the target.
NFL network saying Bronco's actively trying to get
Again other teams want these QBs. I dont get why Gettleman doesnt, per most of what weve seen.
I don't know. I can make an argument for and against each of the top 4 QB's. But if you're not taking one then moving to 5 is a no brainer. It just is. You might lose out on Barkley but you get Chubb or Nelson.
In comment 13935050 Ten Ton Hammer said:
[quote] And the entire league knew he was the best RB in the draft. His play surprised no one. [/quote\
And too put Elliot behind a great O line. Speaks volumes
The line will be a lot better with a vet like Solder. Omameh is young and at least serviceable. Jones is okay and should be ascending. Wheeler should be better in his second year. Still need reinforcements in rd 2 or 3.
You become a winner again by adding top players to your roster. Take the best player on your board.
Agreed.
Especially if the run on OL starts earlier than expected.
^^^^^^This^^^^^^, I wouldnt turn off the tv early tonight
If Barkley is the equivalent of a Elliott whos not an asshole, hes worth a damn lot. If hes that good, it would take 2 or 3 big hits on the other trade down picks.
If they don't take a QB, that doesn't have to mean it's a mindset about trying to win now or that they're completely overshooting on what they think Eli has left or putting too many eggs in Webb's basket when they shouldn't be putting any in it.
It might just mean that they don't view the guys on the board as being worth it.
There are no guarantees. I think it's a really good QB class but maybe the Giants FO doesn't see it the same way. Maybe they think the QB prospects available to them are too flawed or won't pan out.
I'd like to take a QB... but if Gettleman takes Barkley or Chubb, so be it. It means they've identified that guy as the best player and think he will provide the most value to the Giants.
This.
Enough of it.
Mine's B'day is 2d Q tax day in June. Sorry to learn of your own variation on this. I join in thanking your wife!
Was just thinking the same thing. Seems like everything pointing to Barkley.
[quote] And the entire league knew he was the best RB in the draft. His play surprised no one. [/quote\
And too put Elliot behind a great O line. Speaks volumes
Eric I hope you stocked up on roach and bug bombs because this place will be infested soon enough!
Heres hoping everyone is happy with the pick after years of great play.
I can't believe people will be getting that upset, to the point of not trusting the team or being a Giants fan, if the Giants pick the player who is considered by many the elite player in this draft.Its not like we are taking a 3rd round talent with the pick.
Have fun watching Barkley get five or six negative runs a game with our line and noodle armed old QB.
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he #Giants have been set on making the pick at No. 2. Could they rethink it? Im told the #Broncos are expected to explore trading up from No. 5 to No. 2. Possible early fireworks. QB would be the target.
Again other teams want these QBs. I dont get why Gettleman doesnt, per most of what weve seen.
trading to #5 would be great
Browns may trade out to the Bills.
Giving the Giants their choice...
Assuming going non-QB
Rosen is going to be a Jet.
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Again other teams want these QBs. I dont get why Gettleman doesnt, per most of what weve seen.
I don't know. I can make an argument for and against each of the top 4 QB's. But if you're not taking one then moving to 5 is a no brainer. It just is. You might lose out on Barkley but you get Chubb or Nelson.
[quote] And the entire league knew he was the best RB in the draft. His play surprised no one. [/quote\
And too put Elliot behind a great O line. Speaks volumes
The line will be a lot better with a vet like Solder. Omameh is young and at least serviceable. Jones is okay and should be ascending. Wheeler should be better in his second year. Still need reinforcements in rd 2 or 3.
Hes going to bogey the hole...
If they're offering a good haul to move up to 2 we should do that. We will still get a great player @ 5.
Hes fighting throat cancer.
Cancer.
They would be guaranteed a stab at the top 3 prospects in the draft and gotten paid for the privelage.
When Elway is done blowing DG, Mara and Tisch are lined up behind. GTFO.