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New York Giants 1st Round Pick: RB Saquon Barkley

Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/26/2018 8:21 pm
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He’ll take a beating for 3-4 years then  
bubba0825 : 4/26/2018 9:48 pm : link
We’ll be talking about using resources to find someone to share the load with. I don’t care if he’s emmitt Smith. No one can take the full load at rb alone in the nfl today for long
Yes!  
Jerry K : 4/26/2018 9:51 pm : link
Barkley is a phenomenal talent. I don't think I ever watched the draft and yelled "YES!!!" at a Giants pick before. I understand the desire for a QB but Barkley is terrific and many had him as the best player in this year's draft.

Re: leakage. I don't think there were leaks from the Giants. Most people thought the Browns would take a QB and most people though Barkley was the best players. It just made sense that the Giants would take him.

Be happy. Barkley is a great prospect.
RE: DG  
Simms2McConkey : 4/26/2018 9:52 pm : link
In comment 13936325 AcidTest said:
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doesn't strike me as a guy who's afraid of "swinging and missing." As I said, I would have preferred the purported deal with Cleveland for #4, #33, and #35, but that wasn't going to happen since DG gave Barkley a 9.0 grade. In the Giants.com clip he says that he told everyone to ignore calls.

There may also be another reason for drafting Barkley, and that is to help Webb. If Webb succeeds Eli, he will likely do so when Barkley is in his third year. That will help Webb tremendously in his first year as the starter. Webb isn't the bridge. Barkley is. He's the bridge between Eli and Webb. He helps Eli at the end of his career, and Webb at the beginning of his.

I like this pick the more I think about it. DG had a conviction, and took his player. Barkley is electric, and can be a slot WR.


Love this take. Completely agree.
We will let the RB is super dope and will make Eli play more  
NYSports1 : 4/26/2018 9:54 pm : link
have their night. I think SB will be a terrific player and even if he is a 8 time pro bowler I feel that he is a horrible pick at #2 and has zero to do with his talent. I am confident that the other running backs in the draft will have similar or better career than SB and will not be drafted in round 1 not to mention #2 overall.

We will see how Eli plays next year and the year after that, I feel he is done and is shell shocked. If Webb is not the future which I have seen nothing from him to say he will be and he was not great in college. This team will have to mortage the future of picks to get up to take a qb or sign a FA qb who will get tons of money and not be that good. You can find productive backs in free agency and the draft, you cannot find a qb who will lead a franchise for 15 years by snapping your fingers.

Eli thinks the media or fans were harsh before? Wait till he has bad games or god forbid the Jets start to win and Darnold is the goods, or Rosen with his chip on the shoulder turns into a stud.

Nothing SB does on the field will ever remove that stain of those qb's turn into what many think even if it was not the Giants
RE: He’ll take a beating for 3-4 years then  
PetesHereNow : 4/26/2018 9:54 pm : link
In comment 13936339 bubba0825 said:
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We’ll be talking about using resources to find someone to share the load with. I don’t care if he’s emmitt Smith. No one can take the full load at rb alone in the nfl today for long


Wayne Gallman can be that change of pace back.
RE: The Saints just traded next year’s 1  
Toth029 : 4/26/2018 9:55 pm : link
In comment 13936282 Chris684 said:
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For a pass rusher who reminds Mayock of “Ziggy Ansah”.

Now that’s a questionable use of resources. Thought for sure Lamar Jackson.

Two 1sts for Jackson is equally stupid.
RE: RE: DG  
NYSports1 : 4/26/2018 9:56 pm : link
In comment 13936358 Simms2McConkey said:
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In comment 13936325 AcidTest said:


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doesn't strike me as a guy who's afraid of "swinging and missing." As I said, I would have preferred the purported deal with Cleveland for #4, #33, and #35, but that wasn't going to happen since DG gave Barkley a 9.0 grade. In the Giants.com clip he says that he told everyone to ignore calls.

There may also be another reason for drafting Barkley, and that is to help Webb. If Webb succeeds Eli, he will likely do so when Barkley is in his third year. That will help Webb tremendously in his first year as the starter. Webb isn't the bridge. Barkley is. He's the bridge between Eli and Webb. He helps Eli at the end of his career, and Webb at the beginning of his.

I like this pick the more I think about it. DG had a conviction, and took his player. Barkley is electric, and can be a slot WR.



Love this take. Completely agree.


And if Webb is not the player to lead the team? What then? Trade a ton of high picks to draft a qb in 2 or 3 years?

Sounds like a great plan
Nobody knows the future  
csh2z : 4/26/2018 9:58 pm : link
for any of these QB prospects. They all have talent and they all have warts. That includes Webb. None of us have any idea how much Webb has progressed in the past year. His chances for success are just as great as any of this year's QB's, maybe even greater. Only the scouts, coaches and personnel evaluators for the NY Giants have any idea of Webb's abilities now and in the future.

Who are you to judge?
RE: RE: DG  
M.S. : 4/26/2018 9:59 pm : link
In comment 13936358 Simms2McConkey said:
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In comment 13936325 AcidTest said:


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doesn't strike me as a guy who's afraid of "swinging and missing." As I said, I would have preferred the purported deal with Cleveland for #4, #33, and #35, but that wasn't going to happen since DG gave Barkley a 9.0 grade. In the Giants.com clip he says that he told everyone to ignore calls.

There may also be another reason for drafting Barkley, and that is to help Webb. If Webb succeeds Eli, he will likely do so when Barkley is in his third year. That will help Webb tremendously in his first year as the starter. Webb isn't the bridge. Barkley is. He's the bridge between Eli and Webb. He helps Eli at the end of his career, and Webb at the beginning of his.

I like this pick the more I think about it. DG had a conviction, and took his player. Barkley is electric, and can be a slot WR.



Love this take. Completely agree.

Gettleman was playing it very safe with the Barkley pick.
With all the ludicrous hyperbole Gettleman is spewing  
Greg from LI : 4/26/2018 10:00 pm : link
Barkley had better be Jim Brown Jr.
_________  
I am Ninja : 4/26/2018 10:01 pm : link
you all enjoy your excitement til he gets hurt playing that brutal position, then wonder where it all went wrong when we cant find a qb who doesnt blow... when we get tired of eli blowing. but it will sure be electric and exciting til then!
SHORTSIFHTED TRASH TO MAKE ELI FEEL BETTER  
Sonic Youth : 4/26/2018 10:02 pm : link
I ROOT FOR LAUNDRY

NOT THE NUMBERS

THIS WILL HAUNT US FOR DECADES
I wasn’t Qb or bust but I wanted Darnold  
Danny Kanell : 4/26/2018 10:02 pm : link
And it stings a bit more that he ended up a Jet. I’m choosing however, to be excited that we drafted the most talented running back we’ve probably ever had and the top rated player in the draft.

Build the lines and let’s go.
MISERABLE pick  
Sonic Youth : 4/26/2018 10:02 pm : link
despicable and IRRESPONSILBE
we will rue the day  
Sonic Youth : 4/26/2018 10:03 pm : link
that we gave the jets a franchise qb
Once  
AcidTest : 4/26/2018 10:03 pm : link
DG gave Barkley a 9.0 grade, he was going to be the pick. He wasn't picked because he was "safe."
Davis Webb...  
Jimmy Googs : 4/26/2018 10:03 pm : link

RE: We will let the RB is super dope and will make Eli play more  
lax counsel : 4/26/2018 10:03 pm : link
In comment 13936375 NYSports1 said:
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have their night. I think SB will be a terrific player and even if he is a 8 time pro bowler I feel that he is a horrible pick at #2 and has zero to do with his talent. I am confident that the other running backs in the draft will have similar or better career than SB and will not be drafted in round 1 not to mention #2 overall.

We will see how Eli plays next year and the year after that, I feel he is done and is shell shocked. If Webb is not the future which I have seen nothing from him to say he will be and he was not great in college. This team will have to mortage the future of picks to get up to take a qb or sign a FA qb who will get tons of money and not be that good. You can find productive backs in free agency and the draft, you cannot find a qb who will lead a franchise for 15 years by snapping your fingers.

Eli thinks the media or fans were harsh before? Wait till he has bad games or god forbid the Jets start to win and Darnold is the goods, or Rosen with his chip on the shoulder turns into a stud.

Nothing SB does on the field will ever remove that stain of those qb's turn into what many think even if it was not the Giants


Very well said.
I’m perfectly happy with the pick.  
bradshaw44 : 4/26/2018 10:04 pm : link
I would have been happy with any of the top five guys. Really happy we didn’t take Rosen. I don’t care if he does well with the Cards. Which I feel that’s a good spot for him, much better then with us. He had to many ?s for the number 2 overall pick.
Greg you are on fire tonight  
Chris684 : 4/26/2018 10:04 pm : link
Jim Brown now?

What does Sam Darnold need to become for us to regret it?

Johnny U I’m assuming?

Put the bottle down and step away from the keyboard.
Two things...  
jamison884 : 4/26/2018 10:05 pm : link
1. Michael Irvin of all people made an excellent point using his experience as a player. The Giant's locker room and our coach/GM were cancerous last year. Selecting Barkley is the potential spark we needed in order to show every player in our locker room that the NYG are looking to improve and win right now. That spark is potentially immeasurable for the success of the team over the short term.

2. DG, Shurmur, and the coordinators were the primary people making this selection. Even if you believe a lot of the scouts contributed to the terrible drafts in recent years along with our former GM, the new regime and their collective experience made this decision. I trust them more than some random NYG fan on a forum. They did the work, they studied the tape, they had all of the knowledge one could possible have, and they selected Barkley.

I'm excited to see this team play, and that's not often the case after a 3-13 season.
We'll see about the pick.  
St. Jimmy : 4/26/2018 10:08 pm : link
I wanted QB. I hope they are right. I am disappointed that what could have been a smoke screen was actually a signal flare. We knew they loved the guy for months.
RE: Greg you are on fire tonight  
bubba0825 : 4/26/2018 10:08 pm : link
In comment 13936454 Chris684 said:
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Jim Brown now?

What does Sam Darnold need to become for us to regret it?

Johnny U I’m assuming?

Put the bottle down and step away from the keyboard.


He has to become a slightly above average qb in 6 years. Do you think Barkley will be able to have top 3 rb production in 2023 with the beating he will take?
RE: Greg you are on fire tonight  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/26/2018 10:09 pm : link
In comment 13936454 Chris684 said:
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Jim Brown now?

What does Sam Darnold need to become for us to regret it?

Johnny U I’m assuming?

Put the bottle down and step away from the keyboard.


The GM actually used the phrase "touched by God" to describe his pick. Who needs to put the bottle down?
RE: Maybe Dave Gettleman was afraid...  
Mdgiantsfan : 4/26/2018 10:10 pm : link
In comment 13936253 M.S. said:
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...of swinging (and missing) with QB at #2.

He played it very conservatively and safe with Saquon.


Taking the best player in the draft is playing it safe?
Not the worst player they've taken  
ProfPistolPete : 4/26/2018 10:10 pm : link
but probably the worst draft pick they've made in a long time.
this will go down  
Sonic Youth : 4/26/2018 10:10 pm : link
as potentially the worst giants draft pick of all tie

someoe anak me

I WANT TO BE WRONG

this better be the single best RBof all time
He’s the best player in the draft  
Chris684 : 4/26/2018 10:11 pm : link
It is what it is
RE: RE: Maybe Dave Gettleman was afraid...  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/26/2018 10:11 pm : link
In comment 13936494 Mdgiantsfan said:
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In comment 13936253 M.S. said:


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...of swinging (and missing) with QB at #2.

He played it very conservatively and safe with Saquon.



Taking the best player in the draft is playing it safe?


Well, I mean, DG himself said 'My mother could have scouted Saquon'.
Hahaha  
Amtoft : 4/26/2018 10:12 pm : link
Giants take the best player PERIOD in the entire draft and some fans response is worst pick ever? Only on BBI
RE: Hahaha  
Amtoft : 4/26/2018 10:12 pm : link
In comment 13936506 Amtoft said:
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Giants take the best player PERIOD in the entire draft and some fans response is worst pick ever? Only on BBI


Oh and a major need by the way.
RE: Not the worst player they've taken  
Kevin in CT : 4/26/2018 10:13 pm : link
In comment 13936496 ProfPistolPete said:
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but probably the worst draft pick they've made in a long time.


Flowers?
So the Giants pick...  
Brown_Hornet : 4/26/2018 10:14 pm : link
... the consensus best player in the draft... and a bunch of guys who don't know shit are pissed.

I love all of you dumbasses.
Pretty sad reaction by many on here  
eric2425ny : 4/26/2018 10:14 pm : link
As much as I was not a big fan of any of the QB’s this year if they ended up taking one of them I wouldn’t have had a shit fit about it. I think a lot of you are going to feel pretty silly when the Giants actually contend for something this year.
RE: RE:  
BladeCleaver : 4/26/2018 10:15 pm : link
In comment 13936010 wigs in nyc said:
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In comment 13935972 Greg from LI said:


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As "protect the Duke" was


hear hear


Dilly dilly!
If you type in all caps  
UConn4523 : 4/26/2018 10:15 pm : link
does that mean it’s true?
I was at the Stadium tonight  
Matt in SGS : 4/26/2018 10:16 pm : link
the place went nuts when they called Barkley's name. I was one of the fans who felt that QB was the right direction to go. However, the reality is, that if the scouts don't feel that the QB is going to be a franchise QB, you can't pick them at #2. Barkley was the best player in the draft. He makes the Giants better. Odell just got better. The running game will be the best we have seen in about 8 years.

And let's also look at it this way, the Jets basically put Barkley in blue. When you look at it, I think the Browns plan all along was to go with Mayfield at #4 and Barkley at #1. Once the Jets traded up to #3, that forced the Browns to go with Mayfield at #1. With the Giants sitting at #2, and clearly not sold on Darnold/Allen/Rosen, and when a trade down didn't materialize, it makes sense that Gettleman pulled this trigger.

If Darnold turns out to be a bust and Barkley becomes a super star at RB, it would be funny to think the Jets were the ones behind the whole scenario.
RE: Pretty sad reaction by many on here  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/26/2018 10:17 pm : link
In comment 13936525 eric2425ny said:
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As much as I was not a big fan of any of the QB’s this year if they ended up taking one of them I wouldn’t have had a shit fit about it. I think a lot of you are going to feel pretty silly when the Giants actually contend for something this year.


I don't think anyone is going to be surprised if they win a bunch more games. Having Odell back is worth several wins. His play has and will continue to mask other holes on the team.
RE: I was at the Stadium tonight  
Rjanyg : 4/26/2018 10:22 pm : link
In comment 13936541 Matt in SGS said:
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the place went nuts when they called Barkley's name. I was one of the fans who felt that QB was the right direction to go. However, the reality is, that if the scouts don't feel that the QB is going to be a franchise QB, you can't pick them at #2. Barkley was the best player in the draft. He makes the Giants better. Odell just got better. The running game will be the best we have seen in about 8 years.

And let's also look at it this way, the Jets basically put Barkley in blue. When you look at it, I think the Browns plan all along was to go with Mayfield at #4 and Barkley at #1. Once the Jets traded up to #3, that forced the Browns to go with Mayfield at #1. With the Giants sitting at #2, and clearly not sold on Darnold/Allen/Rosen, and when a trade down didn't materialize, it makes sense that Gettleman pulled this trigger.

If Darnold turns out to be a bust and Barkley becomes a super star at RB, it would be funny to think the Jets were the ones behind the whole scenario.


Great post as always. It was a fearless selection. BPA and Saquon is the best player in the draft. Thank you Cleveland, thank you NY Jets!
So Odell is worth “several” wins  
Chris684 : 4/26/2018 10:22 pm : link
But Barkley is a bad pick? I really don’t get that logic.

By that logic,If Barkley is who just about every scout thinks he is, he will be worth several wins too I guess and we will be a pretty good team.
Who needs a QB if your WR alone  
Chris684 : 4/26/2018 10:24 pm : link
Is worth several wins?
The idea is to acquire talent......  
Simms11 : 4/26/2018 10:25 pm : link
Man, you’d think Barkley was an average Football Player by the comments on here, WTF?! I was in the draft a QB crowd, however, it’s not a bad pick. He was a highly rated player, the best in the entire draft, and we have people upset by the pick?! I just don’t understand some folks on this board. Just because we selected a RB over a QB, doesn’t mean Webb is the future. There’s other opportunities to pick up QBs through, trades, Free Agency and draft. Who knows what next year holds and where we’ll end up. I, for one hope it’s not selecting at #2 again, but there will be QBs available. It’s apparent that the Giants just didn’t have the same conviction on a QB that they had on Barkley, strongly considered a generational talent. He’s going to be fun to watch and could make Eli look even better next year. Now is not the time to overreact, yet people will. Let it play out over next few years and we’ll then revisit this draft and if in fact Barkley was the right choice.
What a day it is  
SethFromAstoria : 4/26/2018 10:26 pm : link
When the new york football Giants add the best skill player in a draft and a character guy who is a leader, plays 3 downs, hands like a wr and a 4.4 40,blocks an returns kicks.... Add that to Evan Engram and Odell Beckham. And it's likely the 3 most raw real elite talent at the skill positions to God forbid help out champion qb have a cast that includes a rb that can turn balls in the flat into massive gains or run the seam deep while dbs have to be terrified of the wrs and te staying short.... And not to mention the huge huge deal that this team has not had a rb in 5 years that could get 1.yard on a 3rd and 1 or get in the endzone 4 downs in a row and now?

And let's just run with a theory that this player is elite... He is going to finally let the QB run play action, cut his throws in half and block on passing plays to help a so so Line...snf we drafted a hopeful replacement in round 3 that was mock drafted in round 2 and he gets to learn from a hall of Famer who hopefully has his career extended by cutting his absurd workload, and a rb who can cut the intense pressure to succeed for a Eli replacement if the rb is able to carry the load and help the you g qb.

When did first round qbs become automatic anyway? Not every draft.... Not any drafts look likee 2004. 3 qbs in the top 7 passing all ltime? Imagine being Miami in 2012 when you behave like a fan and feel like you need a qb at 8 so you draft mediocrity. Same draft has Russell Wilson, the recent super bowl champion on the eagles, plus kirk cousins

Screw the risk while we have a qb never injured.... Weapons ok the Field....

John Elway lost his 3 super bowls. And had average teams until. He was supposedly so old but the 2000 all purpose yard rb he had added to his team helped him win 2 in a row at age 36.

Game manager..... Holy crap
RE: RE: Mara is running this draft board...  
Justlurking : 4/26/2018 10:28 pm : link
In comment 13935993 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 13935964 bw in dc said:


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Don’t be fooled.

He brought in Ernie for the fake GM search. Ernie told Mara what he wanted to hear - Eli can still play. Accorsi then told Mara that Gettleman will fall in line for Eli. Gentlemen is hired. Shurmur is glad for a second crack to be a head coach, so he’s an easy convert.

Now everybody hands in the middle...Go Barkley on three! Go Barkley!

This was sooooooo predictable.



I don't know if I am as doom-and-gloom, but yes, it was predictable.

This also ends any future discussions of "smoke."


100%. Chris Mara runs this team. Seamless transition from him to himself.
Seth very good post  
Chris684 : 4/26/2018 10:28 pm : link
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Gentlemen...  
bw in dc : 4/26/2018 10:29 pm : link
needs to move up and grab LamJax.
RE: What a day it is  
Jimmy Googs : 4/26/2018 10:31 pm : link
In comment 13936604 SethFromAstoria said:
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When the new york football Giants add the best skill player in a draft and a character guy who is a leader, plays 3 downs, hands like a wr and a 4.4 40,blocks an returns kicks.... Add that to Evan Engram and Odell Beckham. And it's likely the 3 most raw real elite talent at the skill positions to God forbid help out champion qb have a cast that includes a rb that can turn balls in the flat into massive gains or run the seam deep while dbs have to be terrified of the wrs and te staying short.... And not to mention the huge huge deal that this team has not had a rb in 5 years that could get 1.yard on a 3rd and 1 or get in the endzone 4 downs in a row and now?

And let's just run with a theory that this player is elite... He is going to finally let the QB run play action, cut his throws in half and block on passing plays to help a so so Line...snf we drafted a hopeful replacement in round 3 that was mock drafted in round 2 and he gets to learn from a hall of Famer who hopefully has his career extended by cutting his absurd workload, and a rb who can cut the intense pressure to succeed for a Eli replacement if the rb is able to carry the load and help the you g qb.

When did first round qbs become automatic anyway? Not every draft.... Not any drafts look likee 2004. 3 qbs in the top 7 passing all ltime? Imagine being Miami in 2012 when you behave like a fan and feel like you need a qb at 8 so you draft mediocrity. Same draft has Russell Wilson, the recent super bowl champion on the eagles, plus kirk cousins

Screw the risk while we have a qb never injured.... Weapons ok the Field....

John Elway lost his 3 super bowls. And had average teams until. He was supposedly so old but the 2000 all purpose yard rb he had added to his team helped him win 2 in a row at age 36.

Game manager..... Holy crap


Good post. Give Webb a chance soon and lets not waste mileage on OBj and Barkley
RE: SHORTSIFHTED TRASH TO MAKE ELI FEEL BETTER  
exiled : 4/26/2018 10:31 pm : link
Why are you screeching?

Between your all-caps and typos, it's like you're screaming in my face and spitting. You're having a tantrum. Calm down.
Hard to be upset with getting the best player....  
BillKo : 4/26/2018 10:31 pm : link
....in the draft. I mean, c'mon already.

And why take a QB if this regime didn't feel a QB was worth the pick?

My only concern with the pick is you could be looking at a 5-6 year player, with the pounding RBs take, versus a 10-15 year player at QB, or say, DE.

But again, you simply don't make that pick based on longevity. You try to get the best player when picking that high.

I think the Giants did that.
in 4 seasons of Odell playing 48 games total  
NYSports1 : 4/26/2018 10:32 pm : link
The giants have won 21 games with OBJ playing....

11 of those 21 games came in one season when the defense was the only reason we were any good. So yea OBJ does not equal wins, just td's
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