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New York Giants 1st Round Pick: RB Saquon Barkley

Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/26/2018 8:21 pm
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RE: in 4 seasons of Odell playing 48 games total  
Jimmy Googs : 4/26/2018 10:34 pm : link
In comment 13936656 NYSports1 said:
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The giants have won 21 games with OBJ playing....

11 of those 21 games came in one season when the defense was the only reason we were any good. So yea OBJ does not equal wins, just td's


OBJ was the reason we won those games, and its not even debatable...
RE: in 4 seasons of Odell playing 48 games total  
terz22 : 4/26/2018 10:34 pm : link
In comment 13936656 NYSports1 said:
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The giants have won 21 games with OBJ playing....

11 of those 21 games came in one season when the defense was the only reason we were any good. So yea OBJ does not equal wins, just td's


And all those games we lost in 15 where was Odell on defense?
Hah  
Greg from LI : 4/26/2018 10:35 pm : link
If anything was to make me confident that the pick was a mistake, Seth liking it cements it.
Can we have a go-on-the-record thread  
Mike from SI : 4/26/2018 10:35 pm : link
for who's in favor and who's against it?
RE: RE: in 4 seasons of Odell playing 48 games total  
NYSports1 : 4/26/2018 10:35 pm : link
In comment 13936669 Jimmy Googs said:
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In comment 13936656 NYSports1 said:


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The giants have won 21 games with OBJ playing....

11 of those 21 games came in one season when the defense was the only reason we were any good. So yea OBJ does not equal wins, just td's



OBJ was the reason we won those games, and its not even debatable...


you are beyond delusional if you think the offense or OBJ was the reason we made the playoffs 2 years ago...
Jimmy fine..then those who feel that way  
Chris684 : 4/26/2018 10:37 pm : link
Should love Barkley.

If skill players are worth wins by themselves, then that devalues QBs and if Barkley lives up to his grade then we got a lot more wins.
RE: Gentlemen...  
The_Boss : 4/26/2018 10:39 pm : link
In comment 13936634 bw in dc said:
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needs to move up and grab LamJax.


No he doesn’t
I'd  
AcidTest : 4/26/2018 10:44 pm : link
be stunned if we traded up for Jackson.
RE: RE: RE: in 4 seasons of Odell playing 48 games total  
Jimmy Googs : 4/26/2018 10:47 pm : link
In comment 13936675 NYSports1 said:
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In comment 13936669 Jimmy Googs said:


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In comment 13936656 NYSports1 said:


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The giants have won 21 games with OBJ playing....

11 of those 21 games came in one season when the defense was the only reason we were any good. So yea OBJ does not equal wins, just td's



OBJ was the reason we won those games, and its not even debatable...



you are beyond delusional if you think the offense or OBJ was the reason we made the playoffs 2 years ago...


No I am not. We rode the defense right into the playoffs for sure. All I am saying is the only reason we scored any points (remember you need at least 1 point to win) was OBJ...
RE: I'd  
The_Boss : 4/26/2018 10:48 pm : link
In comment 13936746 AcidTest said:
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be stunned if we traded up for Jackson.


I’m not saying I want him, but who’s taking him before 34? You think the Pats are seriously considering him? Maybe the Steelers are thinking post Ben?
RE: Who needs a QB if your WR alone  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/26/2018 10:48 pm : link
In comment 13936589 Chris684 said:
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Is worth several wins?


What are you even arguing?
Pats got a very good G/T  
prdave73 : 4/26/2018 10:48 pm : link
In Wynn. I had him 3rd best guard behind Hernandez.
RE: Jimmy fine..then those who feel that way  
Jimmy Googs : 4/26/2018 10:52 pm : link
In comment 13936691 Chris684 said:
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Should love Barkley.

If skill players are worth wins by themselves, then that devalues QBs and if Barkley lives up to his grade then we got a lot more wins.


I do love Barkley. I just know our QB is heading downhill quickly and we will not have any more winning seasons until we get somebody else in there...
RE: we will rue the day  
old man : 4/26/2018 10:53 pm : link
In comment 13936443 Sonic Youth said:
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that we gave the jets a franchise qb


They've been building a nice team the last 2 drafts and 3 offseasons.
He may be one with a lot of help.
I’m pointing out how stupid  
Chris684 : 4/26/2018 10:54 pm : link
it sounds to claim a WR alone is worth several wins and then bitch about taking the best player in the draft who happens to play a skill position.
The reactions are hilarious we get arguably the best player  
Bluesbreaker : 4/26/2018 10:56 pm : link
in the draft I am sure gonna miss not having RB that
can't turn the corner . Once he star busting off long runs
and watching play action with Odell blowing by people .
Finish shoring up the line grab a CB Edge Rusher and
were right back in the playoffs .
730 touches 4 fumbles 3 lost . 43 TD's in 38 games
2 KO returns for TD's Hes very good hands he can launch on the goal line , apparently he can block as well .
True HR hitter whats not to like .
Cleveland took Mayfield Darnold 22 fumbles Rosen dropped like a rock .
I am gonna go with DG and see how this pans out ,
I was all in for taking  
mattyblue : 4/26/2018 11:01 pm : link
a QB. However we didn’t and I think you get behind it now. No point harping on it. No one thought Barkley was bad. Things could be a lot worse. Stay positive
good post Seth  
gidiefor : Mod : 4/26/2018 11:02 pm : link
I totally agree
this was a 3-13 team...  
bestt : 4/26/2018 11:04 pm : link
no running back is going to turn this mess around… should have blown it up and started with a new qb
Beautiful  
greek13 : 4/26/2018 11:05 pm : link
I don’t understand any of the complaining
Everyone’s top player in the draft
You win with great players
He will
Be a guaranteed great player if stays healthy
Our coach knows qbs
Relax and be happy
Jesus - I wonder if anyone complaining ever really played
The game
RE: I’m pointing out how stupid  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/26/2018 11:10 pm : link
In comment 13936812 Chris684 said:
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it sounds to claim a WR alone is worth several wins and then bitch about taking the best player in the draft who happens to play a skill position.


I'm not sure why this even needs clarification when "slant to Odell" was the only reliable play in the book the last two years. Odell Beckham isn't just "a WR". He's one of the best offensive playmakers in football. Don't make this more complicated than it has to be.
Here  
AcidTest : 4/26/2018 11:13 pm : link
is what Barkley does:

Makes OBJ, SS, and EE more effective.

Makes Eli more effective because teams might not be able to blitz as much. That's important because Eli is basically immobile.

Makes "play action" believable because we now have a legitimate run game.

Makes Webb better if he succeeds Eli.

Makes the defense better because as a "home run" hitter he can "flip" the field.

Can line up in the slot as a WR, which is important since we have nothing behind
OBJ and SS.

Because he has great hands, we might FINALLY be able to run a screen play.
wowowow  
fanofthejets : 4/26/2018 11:13 pm : link
I can't believe you guys didn't take Darnold. I was at a Jets draft party and must've been like 100 people in the room grumbling about the Giants having Darnold fall in their lap. But you didn't take him. I can't believe you didn't take him. The room just erupted when Goodell read Barkley. It was pure bedlam. We landed Darnold.
RE: this was a 3-13 team...  
Emil : 4/26/2018 11:14 pm : link
In comment 13936887 bestt said:
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no running back is going to turn this mess around… should have blown it up and started with a new qb


Because that always works or something? Cleveland’s been blowing it up for 20!years.
There's a lot of assumption that he's gonna do all those things  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/26/2018 11:15 pm : link
immediately and behind an offensive line that nobody should have confidence in.
RE: in 4 seasons of Odell playing 48 games total  
bradshaw44 : 4/26/2018 11:16 pm : link
In comment 13936656 NYSports1 said:
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The giants have won 21 games with OBJ playing....

11 of those 21 games came in one season when the defense was the only reason we were any good. So yea OBJ does not equal wins, just td's


So you are advocating for more OL? I agree, we can definitely ya more OL.
RE: wowowow  
Emil : 4/26/2018 11:17 pm : link
In comment 13936956 fanofthejets said:
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I can't believe you guys didn't take Darnold. I was at a Jets draft party and must've been like 100 people in the room grumbling about the Giants having Darnold fall in their lap. But you didn't take him. I can't believe you didn't take him. The room just erupted when Goodell read Barkley. It was pure bedlam. We landed Darnold.


I like Darnold but 21 fumbles in one season. The Jets needed a QB this year they had to take one. Giants have some time. Could be more patient.
RE: RE: wowowow  
fanofthejets : 4/26/2018 11:22 pm : link
In comment 13937000 Emil said:
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In comment 13936956 fanofthejets said:


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I can't believe you guys didn't take Darnold. I was at a Jets draft party and must've been like 100 people in the room grumbling about the Giants having Darnold fall in their lap. But you didn't take him. I can't believe you didn't take him. The room just erupted when Goodell read Barkley. It was pure bedlam. We landed Darnold.



I like Darnold but 21 fumbles in one season. The Jets needed a QB this year they had to take one. Giants have some time. Could be more patient.


Yes true. He needs to be taught better ball handling techniques. But a lot of it is just from trying too hard. He makes plays that are unreal. Two guys hanging off him and throwing the most catchable perfect 30 yard touch pass over the fingertips of converging defenders. Darnold does stuff no other QB in this draft can do. And maybe only Roethlisberger can do in the NFL
I'm not sad about missing out on those QBs  
widmerseyebrow : 4/26/2018 11:26 pm : link
Rosen seems like the most pro ready passer out of the bunch, but I think he definitely got dinged on medicals. Nobody wants the next Chad Pennington.

Allen is going to bomb.

I was hoping for a trade down, but I'm not going to be mopey about trying to win in the next 3-4 years.
Pats take RB  
ZogZerg : 4/26/2018 11:29 pm : link
Good!
RE: I'm not sad about missing out on those QBs  
fanofthejets : 4/26/2018 11:32 pm : link
In comment 13937067 widmerseyebrow said:
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Rosen seems like the most pro ready passer out of the bunch, but I think he definitely got dinged on medicals. Nobody wants the next Chad Pennington.

Allen is going to bomb.

I was hoping for a trade down, but I'm not going to be mopey about trying to win in the next 3-4 years.


Good let Allen bomb with those zubaz wearing table breaking coke fiends in buffalo. That entire city is basically what Canada crapped out.

Allen is a thrower. He's not a QB. If he's lucky he'll be a more mobile Jeff George.
Allen is going down in flames. He's another brock osweiler.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/26/2018 11:37 pm : link
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RE: So the Giants pick...  
BigBlue4You09 : 4/26/2018 11:38 pm : link
In comment 13936520 Brown_Hornet said:
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... the consensus best player in the draft... and a bunch of guys who don't know shit are pissed.

I love all of you dumbasses.


Right, pure comedy from BBI.
I admit i wanted a QB,  
Jarvis : 4/26/2018 11:38 pm : link
I thought Darnold or Rosen at our spot. However, i want to say that i think Barkley is the best back i have seen in a long time, has great character, and will be exhilarating to watch. My problem is that i don't have the confidence in Eli at his point...and i remember watching Barry Sanders be the most talented back in the league without much winning. I hope we don't end up going that route. That being said, i will really enjoy rooting for Barkley.
huh?  
fanofthejets : 4/26/2018 11:39 pm : link
I'm sorry by Lamar Jackson's wonderlic is somewhere below warehouseman. He's going to be a gadget player for Baltimore and a dangerous one at that. He will never take Flacco's job.
RE: huh?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/26/2018 11:40 pm : link
In comment 13937194 fanofthejets said:
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I'm sorry by Lamar Jackson's wonderlic is somewhere below warehouseman. He's going to be a gadget player for Baltimore and a dangerous one at that. He will never take Flacco's job.


Dan Marino scored a 13 on his wonderlic. It's about as relevant as leeches are to modern medicine.
RE: huh?  
bw in dc : 4/26/2018 11:46 pm : link
In comment 13937194 fanofthejets said:
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I'm sorry by Lamar Jackson's wonderlic is somewhere below warehouseman. He's going to be a gadget player for Baltimore and a dangerous one at that. He will never take Flacco's job.


You couldn't be more wrong. He's going to get it - eventually - and then he's going to kill it. You can't teach that athleticism and his willingness to want to be a pocket QB.

It took a while, but the best Heisman winner finally get drafted.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/26/2018 11:46 pm : link
I would have traded down.

But as I posted a couple of months ago, it's going to pretty damn cool watching Barkley, Odell, and Engram on the field together.
RE: huh?  
eric2425ny : 4/26/2018 11:47 pm : link
In comment 13937194 fanofthejets said:
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I'm sorry by Lamar Jackson's wonderlic is somewhere below warehouseman. He's going to be a gadget player for Baltimore and a dangerous one at that. He will never take Flacco's job.


Please return to the Jets message board. I’m pretty sure no one on here wants to hear you make fun of blue collar workers, “warehousemen”, and tell us how wonderful Darnold is. Enjoy Mark Sanchez 2.0.
RE: I could  
Tim in JTown : 4/26/2018 11:56 pm : link
In comment 13936017 Joey in VA said:
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Not be happier.


Same here.

10+years of a whole lotta fun football ahead.
Very happy  
ghost718 : 4/26/2018 11:59 pm : link
Best Giants pick in a long time
excited  
mpinmaine : 4/27/2018 12:24 am : link
to have this player,the QB's?.......IDK not so much
I'm not sure why so many people are crying over Darnold.  
Mr. Bungle : 4/27/2018 12:25 am : link
Unless they have a soft spot for bad footwork, a slow windup, and lots of turnovers.

I mean, seriously, when did Sam Darnold become the next John Elway, Peyton Manning, or Andrew Luck?

It took me a while to come around on Barkley, but the guy really has some amazing skills. Comparing him to Reggie Bush is pretty absurd, given Barkley's 30+-pound edge on Bush and ability to break tackles on inside running, which Bush never demonstrated.

Barkley is an explosive weapon added to an offense that already has Beckham. I'm not a big 1st-round RB guy, but this is a hard pick to complain about.

And I'll take Sy'56's opinion over almost all others on here, given how much more he knows and studies this shit.

RE: Absolute lack of Foresight  
Mr. Bungle : 4/27/2018 12:27 am : link
In comment 13935667 bubba0825 said:
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The career expectancy of a running back in today’s NFL is what?

I don't know. Ask Frank Gore.
RE: So Odell is worth “several” wins  
santacruzom : 4/27/2018 12:38 am : link
In comment 13936577 Chris684 said:
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But Barkley is a bad pick? I really don’t get that logic.

By that logic,If Barkley is who just about every scout thinks he is, he will be worth several wins too I guess and we will be a pretty good team.


Yeah, and there have been a few articles that illystr as the how a highly picked RB adds more wins to the following season than any other position.
RE: RE: huh?  
fanofthejets : 4/27/2018 12:40 am : link
In comment 13937248 eric2425ny said:
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In comment 13937194 fanofthejets said:


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I'm sorry by Lamar Jackson's wonderlic is somewhere below warehouseman. He's going to be a gadget player for Baltimore and a dangerous one at that. He will never take Flacco's job.



Please return to the Jets message board. I’m pretty sure no one on here wants to hear you make fun of blue collar workers, “warehousemen”, and tell us how wonderful Darnold is. Enjoy Mark Sanchez 2.0.


Darnold will be a top 5 Qb for a long long time. Thank you. Remember this day
RE: RE: So Odell is worth “several” wins  
santacruzom : 4/27/2018 12:48 am : link
In comment 13937441 santacruzom said:
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In comment 13936577 Chris684 said:


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But Barkley is a bad pick? I really don’t get that logic.

By that logic,If Barkley is who just about every scout thinks he is, he will be worth several wins too I guess and we will be a pretty good team.



Yeah, and there have been a few articles that illystr as the how a highly picked RB adds more wins to the following season than any other position.


Anyone else have a Samsung phone that inexplicably breaks one actual word up into three non-words?
RE: RE: Absolute lack of Foresight  
ajr2456 : 4/27/2018 12:50 am : link
In comment 13937418 Mr. Bungle said:
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In comment 13935667 bubba0825 said:


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The career expectancy of a running back in today’s NFL is what?


I don't know. Ask Frank Gore.


Frank Gore hasn't averaged 4 yards per carry in 3 years
Barkley  
Peppers : 4/27/2018 6:13 am : link
I'm not a fan of spending the 2nd overall pick on a RB but NYG got a talented player. Lots of talent at the skill positions but this isn't fantasy football, the OL is a mess.. IF DG can't fix the OL in a hurry, Barkley will fail to live up to fan expectations as a rusher. I think he'll do well as a receiving back.

I like the pick. The only QB I would have considered was Rosen if not  
Victor in CT : 4/27/2018 6:20 am : link
The concussion history.

Wtf was Cleveland thinking with the 4th pick? I get that everyone has a different opinion on the type of QB you want, but how do you pass on Chubb and Nelson for a DB? And not even the best one?
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