that is actually who he is... Case Keenum also doesn't have a big arm but he is amazingly quick and reading plays correctly and making the correct anticipation throws. That is this kid. Not the type of QBs I like but you have to know that Shurmur will get the most of our him if he can play.
Lauletta was so great, if so many teams had a second round grade on him, then why was he still available in the fourth round? Especially since teams are always desperate for QBs. The Patriots have an aging Tom Brady, and they passed on him how many times?
That’s a dumb argument. Why did Tom Brady last until the 6th round?
Some of you don’t get this pick? Really? You don’t get it? Maybe they like this kid. Just a thought...
Webb was never going to stop the giants from taking a qb first second or 4th. He’s a piece to work with. He’s potential. Now they have another piece to work with. Another potentials How is this hard to understand?
If one of Webb or Lauletta work out we are golden.
So if one of them turns out to be an AVERAGE NFL QB we're "golden"?
I like Lauletta and Webb. If you dont that is fine. People bitch about drafting a QB at 2 because we will never get another chance. If you miss on that pick you're fucked. If you have a 3rd and 4th round pick then the risk is minimal. Like pj posted earlier the odds of any 4th round pick working out is slim so why not take the chance on a QB? Under one of the west coast guys (Holmgren?) they say you should take a QB every year because the upside is worth it. So, stop bitching about stupid shit like twisting my words around.
Agreed.
People need to chill. Round 4-7 is where you take chances like this kid, Hurst and Griffin.
So instead of one longshot late round developmental QB Â
He fits everything Gettleman was saying that he looks for in a QB...
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Kyle has excellent leadership qualities and character and his intangibles might be the best in this draft glass of talented quarterbacks. He works well from the pocket and has the athleticism and agility to manipulate the pocket and extend plays and make first downs and touch downs with his feet as well as in the pass game. He is smart and instinctive and works the offense like a coach on the field.
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Kyle Lauletta has the potential to lift his game and the game of his teammates around him intellectually. I saw this at the Senior Bowl practices. He wouldn’t change a play or a route if it didn’t work all he did was say to his teammate, when you run that if you see a defense player between us just move a little to one side or the other so that I can see you better. These are the little things that make the play successful and teach your teammates and at the same time acknowledges why the Quarterback didn’t complete the play the first time. This is maturity, instincts, and coach on the field intangibles that most young quarterbacks don’t have.
If one of Webb or Lauletta work out we are golden.
So if one of them turns out to be an AVERAGE NFL QB we're "golden"?
I like Lauletta and Webb. If you dont that is fine. People bitch about drafting a QB at 2 because we will never get another chance. If you miss on that pick you're fucked. If you have a 3rd and 4th round pick then the risk is minimal. Like pj posted earlier the odds of any 4th round pick working out is slim so why not take the chance on a QB? Under one of the west coast guys (Holmgren?) they say you should take a QB every year because the upside is worth it. So, stop bitching about stupid shit like twisting my words around.
I'll "bitch" about whatever I want. It's a draft discussion thread. If you're going to take my comments so personally, perhaps you'd be best not to read them.
Hoping 1 of 2 OL drop, both do, and they go a short QB?
First disappointment under DG...at least it was #108 and not 9 or 10.Thought he might be 5th.
That's a PS pick. Smaller, OK arm but fine for PS system, mobile QB .
How could they be sold on Webb or not sold on Webb? The guy hasn’t played a regular season snap! He’s a piece. A guy to work with. Nothing more nothing less. You don’t ignore him but you don’t ignore collegiate prospects either.
the value must have been too high their board to pass. Ultimately this brings back the scenario that many of us have talked about on BBI for months, and I specifically likened to the 1993 season. In 1993, the Giants had one more run in Simms to be competitive and wanted to have Dave Brown and Kent Graham sit behind him and learn. Come 1994, it became a battle to see who could earn the starting job.
The Giants essentially said that they didn't see the QB value at #2 and Barkley was too good to pass up. However, in round 4, looking at Lauletta, they will invest in that developmental pick at QB and set up for a battle in camp to be the backup, and ultimately target a battle in 2019 (if Eli is still there) to see who takes over as the starter.
They also bring in competition for Webb so he's not handed anything. I would have liked to see the tackle there, but he's sliding for a reason and there will be a run on QBs soon.
To me, it makes sense in the larger picture, but I still wanted to see another OL there.
franchise QB at #2. But why not up our chances of finding Eli's replacement in the 4th round when he was considered a 2nd round value by some? On Thursday most of you guys were ok having our #2 overall pick hold the clipboard for a year and weren't concerned about 2018. Now all of a sudden we're going for the Super Bowl in 2018? If we're not SB contenders who cares if we didn't get a 2018 starter? We'll get him next year. Also, who is this difference maker we'll be getting in the 4th round anyway?
Lauletta was so great, if so many teams had a second round grade on him, then why was he still available in the fourth round? Especially since teams are always desperate for QBs. The Patriots have an aging Tom Brady, and they passed on him how many times?
Because the draft is not an exact science? Why did teams pass on joe Montana? Because as in tune and sharp and dedicated as the nfl scouting process is, it’s not perfect.
guys everyone breathe....jesus this board is like a fucking roller coaster. we took a developmental QB AGAIN with a coach who does a good job of getting the most out of his guys....webb n KL will battle for the backup job, and hopefully one is the successor. you are all acting like its impossible that webb or KL are the next guy for us....see romo, garapollo, etc. it happens. i would have rathered a OL or a CB but im okay with the pick
Lauletta was so great, if so many teams had a second round grade on him, then why was he still available in the fourth round? Especially since teams are always desperate for QBs. The Patriots have an aging Tom Brady, and they passed on him how many times?
That’s a dumb argument. Why did Tom Brady last until the 6th round?
Brady was a fluke. Day three QBs are a waste. Nassib, Bomar, and Woodson. And that's just the Giants. The Steelers took Landry Jones the same year we took Nassib, and took Dobbs last year. And Nassib had a stronger arm than Lauletta.
How stupid people are. Why do you think Webb is out now? We needed a third QB, may even bring in a 4th, here is a guy with a shot at developing, he gets to develop under Eli and with Webb, maybe one or both can develop into a decent QB, but at least we have a couple of young back ups. I am convinced that no matter what the Giants do people here are going to bitch, especially when they make their predictions and the Giants don't do as they predict. Such a huge blow to fragile ego's.
would've been a tackle. I'm actually kind of liking this pick. Outside of Baker at #2 (which was impossible), I'd rather have this guy in R4 than the "top" guys from #3-#10. Looks like a QB in the mold of Keenum. I can get behind it.
Kid showed at the Senior Bowl that nobody, no level of talent intimidates him. Right about where I had him going, but never thought we would be the ones to take him. Several teams were high on him and figured to pick him between 3rd and 5th rounds. Tough, smart and will continue to get better. At worst, trade bait at some point.
will rear it's head again this year. Lots of teams carry 3. Plenty of cases where teams have to actually use their 3rd stringer in games due to injuries. A 3rd QB will be one of the inactives every week so it doesn't really affect much.
How stupid people are. Why do you think Webb is out now? We needed a third QB, may even bring in a 4th, here is a guy with a shot at developing, he gets to develop under Eli and with Webb, maybe one or both can develop into a decent QB, but at least we have a couple of young back ups. I am convinced that no matter what the Giants do people here are going to bitch, especially when they make their predictions and the Giants don't do as they predict. Such a huge blow to fragile ego's.
If you are just looking for a 3rd stringer with all of Giants needs and lack of picks you use UDFA
That many of the posters who typically don't know what they are talking about are upset with this pick. That confirms the Giants made a good choice here.
with all the OL and CB's on the board. Lauletta does not have the arm strength to play in Metlife stadium. This is the first pick I don't like and I think it was a real waste.
I thought he had a weak arm too. But so did Chad Pennington.
together with passing on what seemed like some talent that could have contributed right away on an OL that needs to improve significantly if we're going to do something with the 2 years that Eli has left - just doesn't seem like a coherent strategy.
Of course, a couple of guys had him rated as a 2nd round talent, so that justifies it. Davis Webb was rated a 1st rounder by some last season, and that meant a lot for how much playing time he got in a lost season.
Obviously it's just my opinion - but I get the really bad feeling we're going to be looking back on this draft as the definitive turning point for a franchise that was already trending in the wrong direction finally falling off a cliff. I really hope we're not looking at a number of long term, high performing QBs, and our take was a 1st round RB and a QB in the 4th.
that is actually who he is... Case Keenum also doesn't have a big arm but he is amazingly quick and reading plays correctly and making the correct anticipation throws. That is this kid. Not the type of QBs I like but you have to know that Shurmur will get the most of our him if he can play.
That’s a dumb argument. Why did Tom Brady last until the 6th round?
lol
Some of you don’t get this pick? Really? You don’t get it? Maybe they like this kid. Just a thought...
Webb was never going to stop the giants from taking a qb first second or 4th. He’s a piece to work with. He’s potential. Now they have another piece to work with. Another potentials How is this hard to understand?
Go nuts.
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If one of Webb or Lauletta work out we are golden.
So if one of them turns out to be an AVERAGE NFL QB we're "golden"?
I like Lauletta and Webb. If you dont that is fine. People bitch about drafting a QB at 2 because we will never get another chance. If you miss on that pick you're fucked. If you have a 3rd and 4th round pick then the risk is minimal. Like pj posted earlier the odds of any 4th round pick working out is slim so why not take the chance on a QB? Under one of the west coast guys (Holmgren?) they say you should take a QB every year because the upside is worth it. So, stop bitching about stupid shit like twisting my words around.
Agreed.
People need to chill. Round 4-7 is where you take chances like this kid, Hurst and Griffin.
I keep wanting to believe the organization has changed it's ways, and I keep seeing signs that suggest otherwise.
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Like how the Bromley pick was so freakin bad when there were quality OL still available.
Let's see how Crosby or Allen does in the next few years.
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If one of Webb or Lauletta work out we are golden.
So if one of them turns out to be an AVERAGE NFL QB we're "golden"?
I like Lauletta and Webb. If you dont that is fine. People bitch about drafting a QB at 2 because we will never get another chance. If you miss on that pick you're fucked. If you have a 3rd and 4th round pick then the risk is minimal. Like pj posted earlier the odds of any 4th round pick working out is slim so why not take the chance on a QB? Under one of the west coast guys (Holmgren?) they say you should take a QB every year because the upside is worth it. So, stop bitching about stupid shit like twisting my words around.
I'll "bitch" about whatever I want. It's a draft discussion thread. If you're going to take my comments so personally, perhaps you'd be best not to read them.
Rooting for Webb.
First disappointment under DG...at least it was #108 and not 9 or 10.Thought he might be 5th.
That's a PS pick. Smaller, OK arm but fine for PS system, mobile QB .
He's 6'3. That's short? Jesus
How could they be sold on Webb or not sold on Webb? The guy hasn’t played a regular season snap! He’s a piece. A guy to work with. Nothing more nothing less. You don’t ignore him but you don’t ignore collegiate prospects either.
The Giants essentially said that they didn't see the QB value at #2 and Barkley was too good to pass up. However, in round 4, looking at Lauletta, they will invest in that developmental pick at QB and set up for a battle in camp to be the backup, and ultimately target a battle in 2019 (if Eli is still there) to see who takes over as the starter.
They also bring in competition for Webb so he's not handed anything. I would have liked to see the tackle there, but he's sliding for a reason and there will be a run on QBs soon.
To me, it makes sense in the larger picture, but I still wanted to see another OL there.
Once again, Matt is The Voice of Reason.
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Kyle Lauletta was much higher on our QB board this year than Davis Webb was last year
Another Danny Kanell in all likelihood.
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Trade the loser of the competition between Webb and Lauletta?
The NY Giants love Senior Bowl Heroes.
Because the draft is not an exact science? Why did teams pass on joe Montana? Because as in tune and sharp and dedicated as the nfl scouting process is, it’s not perfect.
I give up.
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Lauletta was so great, if so many teams had a second round grade on him, then why was he still available in the fourth round? Especially since teams are always desperate for QBs. The Patriots have an aging Tom Brady, and they passed on him how many times?
That’s a dumb argument. Why did Tom Brady last until the 6th round?
Brady was a fluke. Day three QBs are a waste. Nassib, Bomar, and Woodson. And that's just the Giants. The Steelers took Landry Jones the same year we took Nassib, and took Dobbs last year. And Nassib had a stronger arm than Lauletta.
How is drafting a 4th round QB going to put the Giants in QB hell? They're not committing that much to him. If he sucks he sucks.
https://ftw.usatoday.com/2018/04/richmonds-kyle-lauletta-has-everything-nfl-teams-should-but-dont-look-for-in-a-qb-prospect
Or still (b) Lauletta + Barkley?
Replace darnold with Rosen... I’d be tempted to think that one over. Rosen is going to shine out west.
They have 2 young talented QBs and the time to develop them. I would have preferred taking a tackle here, but I can't say this was a bad pick.
If you are just looking for a 3rd stringer with all of Giants needs and lack of picks you use UDFA
I think it was only the finger.
also, 1935 Giants had 4 quarterbacks.
This guy sucks
Pennington was on his way to an outstanding career if not for the injuries.
Your post sucks.
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with all the OL and CB's on the board. Lauletta does not have the arm strength to play in Metlife stadium. This is the first pick I don't like and I think it was a real waste.
I thought he had a weak arm too. But so did Chad Pennington.
Weak arm? Where is everyone getting this from?
I’ll have what you’re smoking
Of course, a couple of guys had him rated as a 2nd round talent, so that justifies it. Davis Webb was rated a 1st rounder by some last season, and that meant a lot for how much playing time he got in a lost season.
Obviously it's just my opinion - but I get the really bad feeling we're going to be looking back on this draft as the definitive turning point for a franchise that was already trending in the wrong direction finally falling off a cliff. I really hope we're not looking at a number of long term, high performing QBs, and our take was a 1st round RB and a QB in the 4th.