I checked out his stats the other day and if I remember correctly they're on par in terms of yardage and superior in terms of TDs to Shockey's rookie season. Now mind you 15 years later it's a different league with different passing stats and way more pass catching TEs. But EE had a 3-13 team to Shockey's 10-6 team so we'll call it even. Thoughts on Engram's play last season and potential going forward?
But specifically speaking of Engram, I think he has the potential to be the best receiving TE in football, I do believe that.
Engram had 64 catches and 722 yards his rookie year. That's the most catches and yards for a rookie TE since Shockey in 2002. I think it's the third most behind Shockey and Ditka all time.
Big time potential. If he can be league average in terms of blocking and catches, the sky is the limit.
What I envision is a lot more 2 TE sets with Engram moving around and ending up in the slot or split wide, while Ellison is more in-line or in the backfield. There should be a very significant decrease in the 11 personnel packages.
This... he was the forgotten man last year. Good example of how out of sync Reese and McAdoo were in terms of personnel. Hardly played Ellison, even when we needed the blocking help, and even Brandon Marshall was misused. McAdoo had him running routes that guys like Greg Jennings are designed for. Marshall was always a size/matchup player.
He is not a good blocker.
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good blocker. Potential to be a superior tight end, but probably fall short of that elite level.
He is not a good blocker.
But better than Gesiki (Penn State) in this year's draft.
I expect him to catapult from last year's initiation and have a big year.
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good blocker. Potential to be a superior tight end, but probably fall short of that elite level.
He is not a good blocker.
He'll never be a dominating blocker. But he sticks his nose in there, gives good effort and at least ties up the defender long enough for the play to happen.
Look at his PFF rating, it isn't perfect but the low rating certainly isn't a reflection of who he is as a receiver. I don't take these as the gospel but their methodology is solid, it isn't junk. Think he has a long way to go as a blocker. (His effort is there though)
I expect him to catapult from last year's initiation and have a big year.
Wait! Why TF are you saying something nice about a Giants’ player? That is NOT in your contract
Not in Shockey league at this point. Still a long way to go to reach Shockeys level.
Wait! Why TF are you saying something nice about a Giants’ player? That is NOT in your contract
I get so mischaracterized around here...
But specifically speaking of Engram, I think he has the potential to be the best receiving TE in football, I do believe that.
...wide receiver one day!
Decent blocker from what I could tell, but I am hardly an expert.
2) I hope he spent 10 minutes 3 times a day, watching videos of Plaxico or Gronk blocking.
Seems like an easy guy to root for.
As 2nd TE, Slot, Wide.
I still don't see your 'extra OL type TE ' on the roster.
But seriously, I do expect him to have significantly more running room (after catch stuff) in the new system ....and also assumung the RBs get going.
Plaxico Burress/ Kelvin Benjamin type. A big wide receiver with superior blocking skills in the intermediate and deep zones.
With a running start, I've NEVER seen anybody destroy so many corners and safeties blocking for our RBs (as Plaxico did)
In-line blocking, I just don't want to Engram clobbered by 300+ linemen.
RB run outside left. Beck's wide right.
Play action right maybe.QB run right. Beck's cross leftwards.
Engram was robbed of a spot at the Pro Bowl. I know, it's a popularity contest, but still. He put up better numbers than the three NFC TEs who bot chosen: Greg Olsen, Jordan Reed, and Jimmy Graham.
Not drafting any WR's or TE's, he definitely is an important piece to this Giant resurrection.
THats my take as well. He will be a very good player occasional wow plays with that speed of his. So so blocker but he will have a nice career. Not sure he will be the toughest bad ass TE ever but he will be a valuable cog here.
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Engram was robbed of a spot at the Pro Bowl. I know, it's a popularity contest, but still. He put up better numbers than the three NFC TEs who bot chosen: Greg Olsen, Jordan Reed, and Jimmy Graham.
I didn't give you any grief on Engram. I have been consistent from start that I really liked him (and still really do). But to me he was a guy that could have been had in the beginning of Rd 2 and maybe mid Rd 2.
But Reese & Co desperately needed a TE since it was one of his forgotten positions, and one who could get downfield to alleviate coverage to OBJ. So we pulled any early trigger versus making some moves to get him at a more appropriate spot and another guy to boot.
I am high on him though as we all should be.
Once they get the various functions working off each other one expects people with one man to beat.. not whole parties.
First thing I thought of was the drops. Besides the occasional concentration lapse he’s excellent and a much much better blocker than he gets credit for.