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Redskins Cheerleaders forced to take Topless Picture

BigBlueDownTheShore : 5/2/2018 3:01 pm
during a Costa Rica trip.

I hope Dan Snyder doesn't have to sell the team. That would be terrible!
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Well...yeah, it would be terrible  
Greg from LI : 5/2/2018 3:03 pm : link
The Redskins will never be anything but miserable failures with Lil' Danny. May he live to be 100 years old, and own the team until the day he dies.
I want justice for the  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 5/2/2018 3:07 pm : link
Cheerleaders don't get me wrong, but may Dan Snyder be the team owner until he dies.
i read this article  
GiantsFan84 : 5/2/2018 3:13 pm : link
it's not so much the picture for the magazine/calendar it's that the redskins invited people/sponsors to watch the shoot. they appeared to be fine with the pictures but did not want to bear all in front of people not involved with the shoot. a very reasonable request in my eyes.

shame on the redskins for doing that. it definitely crossed a line.
RE: Well...yeah, it would be terrible  
Big Blue '56 : 5/2/2018 3:13 pm : link
In comment 13951137 Greg from LI said:
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The Redskins will never be anything but miserable failures with Lil' Danny. May he live to be 100 years old, and own the team until the day he dies.


Haven’t seen him in awhile. Is he still short?
He is garbage  
NoPeanutz : 5/2/2018 3:20 pm : link
.
and, I almost forgot  
NoPeanutz : 5/2/2018 3:20 pm : link
"May he own the team forever."
Ummm...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 5/2/2018 3:28 pm : link
pics of GTFO!
Wow, if this story is true, or close to the truth  
JohnB : 5/2/2018 3:31 pm : link
Roger is going to come down on Danny boy real hard.
thye took topless pictures for a magazine/calendar  
Bill L : 5/2/2018 3:32 pm : link
that they didn't want anyone to see?
Ok...  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/2/2018 3:33 pm : link
so, where's the pic?
Did i read this correctly...2013?  
Jimmy Googs : 5/2/2018 3:38 pm : link
quite the scoop...
Correct me if I'm wrong,  
fivehead : 5/2/2018 3:38 pm : link
But isn't this exactly what a cheerleader's job is:

"What bothered them was their team director’s demand that they go as sex symbols to please male sponsors, which they did not believe should be a part of their job."
I am sure some people on here can relate  
pjcas18 : 5/2/2018 3:39 pm : link
but what kind of creepy, lonely, dude wants to force a woman to accompany him anywhere against their will or ogle them openly against their will.

those are the people I'd target for checking their browser search histories and assume they are into worse stuff.

I don't really feel bad for the cheerleaders because I'm a heartless bastard, but I have a lot of contempt for those creepy men. As bad as the Redskins are, and no doubt they're in the wrong here, those men are their real "criminals".
RE: Correct me if I'm wrong,  
Greg from LI : 5/2/2018 3:40 pm : link
In comment 13951224 fivehead said:
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But isn't this exactly what a cheerleader's job is:

"What bothered them was their team director’s demand that they go as sex symbols to please male sponsors, which they did not believe should be a part of their job."


Pretty much, but requiring them to go topless with dudes staring at them is something different.
RE: Correct me if I'm wrong,  
Beezer : 5/2/2018 3:43 pm : link
In comment 13951224 fivehead said:
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But isn't this exactly what a cheerleader's job is:

"What bothered them was their team director’s demand that they go as sex symbols to please male sponsors, which they did not believe should be a part of their job."


Eh. I think their job is to cheer at the games and do promotional gigs. The topless things seemed secondary to the mandate (not request) that the accompany male sponsors out to clubs/restaurants. The whole "pimping them out" piece of it (even if they all say sex was not in the plan).
I get college cheerleaders...  
Dunedin81 : 5/2/2018 3:44 pm : link
but at the pro level, why? Giving hopelessly drunk patrons something to leer at doesn't add much to the experience, does it? I remember trying to explain to my then-six or seven year old daughter why the Devils ice dancers existed and why a bunch of drunk, creepy, middle-aged men were drooling over them.
Cheerleaders  
Pete in MD : 5/2/2018 3:45 pm : link
in the NFL might not be around much longer, unless rules are put in place.
I hate this  
antdog24 : 5/2/2018 3:45 pm : link
thread.
RE: Cheerleaders  
Brown Recluse : 5/2/2018 3:49 pm : link
In comment 13951239 Pete in MD said:
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in the NFL might not be around much longer, unless rules are put in place.


Fine with me. There's no point.
I agree in  
Pete in MD : 5/2/2018 3:56 pm : link
not understanding the need for pro cheerleaders at this point. The game is very popular. They might have needed hokey stuff like that when the pro game was just getting started but it's no longer necessary. The Giants refusing to have them has always been something I respected. We are here to watch football. If I want to ogle half-naked women, I'll go somewhere else.
It gets even worse  
Matt M. : 5/2/2018 4:08 pm : link
Allegedly, 9 of the 36 girls were then handpicked by male sponsors to be escorts for them at a nightclub. The girls maintain that sex was not involved, but still...
RE: I agree in  
ron mexico : 5/2/2018 4:12 pm : link
In comment 13951265 Pete in MD said:
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not understanding the need for pro cheerleaders at this point. The game is very popular. They might have needed hokey stuff like that when the pro game was just getting started but it's no longer necessary. The Giants refusing to have them has always been something I respected. We are here to watch football. If I want to ogle half-naked women, I'll go somewhere else.


go to Shakers and do both
“Was that wrong?”  
Crispino : 5/2/2018 4:13 pm : link
“Should I not have done that?”
Thirty years ago...  
Dunedin81 : 5/2/2018 4:16 pm : link
the appeal made a little more sense intuitively. It's a brave new world, the NFL wants to be family friendly and appeal to women customers, if that sort of entertainment interests you there are umpteen alternatives, live or on your smartphone.
RE: Did i read this correctly...2013?  
bradshaw44 : 5/2/2018 4:16 pm : link
In comment 13951220 Jimmy Googs said:
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quite the scoop...


#metoo. Has everyone starting to speak. Hollywood and the rich and famous are going to be catching shit until the cows come home. And it will go back quite a ways.
PICS  
yankeeslover : 5/2/2018 4:40 pm : link
Or GTFO!!!!!!
Well at least this will please the indigenous folks  
Jay in Toronto : 5/2/2018 4:43 pm : link
since now they will be changing their name to the Washington Voyeurs.
RE: Well at least this will please the indigenous folks  
Del Shofner : 5/2/2018 4:49 pm : link
In comment 13951360 Jay in Toronto said:
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since now they will be changing their name to the Washington Voyeurs.


more like Washington Bareskins
Sorry, this is all I got  
Stan in LA : 5/2/2018 5:25 pm : link
this is pretty fucked up  
Rory : 5/2/2018 5:34 pm : link
have to think the delayed timing of this was because 5 years ago this gets covered up and barely makes it as a headline. Now with the METOO movement women have something to attach their story too.

I'm interested to see where this goes with the Redskins, whats also interesting is that the club was virtually empty and had redskin officials there.

Taking the passports (when in another country) might be team policy but its also a way to subdue the girls from causing issues and making them feel obligated to do whatever.

awful
Jay in Toronto  
VanPelt/Manning#10 : 5/2/2018 6:26 pm : link
for the win!
RE: I want justice for the  
section125 : 5/2/2018 6:46 pm : link
In comment 13951142 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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Cheerleaders don't get me wrong, but may Dan Snyder be the team owner until he dies.


Fuck that, I want the picture...
Creepy  
sober297 : 5/2/2018 7:37 pm : link
almost sounds like the cheerleaders were being "pimped" out to sponsors/vendors.
In this age of #MeToo, not smart.
RE: Well...yeah, it would be terrible  
BMac : 5/2/2018 7:39 pm : link
In comment 13951137 Greg from LI said:
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The Redskins will never be anything but miserable failures with Lil' Danny. May he live to be 100 years old, and own the team until the day he dies.


Hear, hear! Buy that man a stogie!
RE: i read this article  
BMac : 5/2/2018 7:40 pm : link
In comment 13951158 GiantsFan84 said:
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it's not so much the picture for the magazine/calendar it's that the redskins invited people/sponsors to watch the shoot. they appeared to be fine with the pictures but did not want to bear all in front of people not involved with the shoot. a very reasonable request in my eyes.

shame on the redskins for doing that. it definitely crossed a line.


Bear? Were they furry?
RE: Well at least this will please the indigenous folks  
Motley Two : 5/2/2018 7:42 pm : link
In comment 13951360 Jay in Toronto said:
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since now they will be changing their name to the Washington Voyeurs.


Dances with Foam Finger would like to see pictures first. Then make judgement.
This is a very troubling story  
Hammer : 5/2/2018 9:18 pm : link
Collecting passports upon arrival; requiring a nude photo shoot; compelling women to accompany men to a night club as a condition of their employment.

I wouldn’t want to defend the ‘Skins in a court room. That being said, reading this story made me very uncomfortable.

It’s just wrong.
Can they just get rid of cheerleaders  
giantsFC : 5/2/2018 10:04 pm : link
I don’t get why these irrelevant sexual harassment and civi rights magnets are still worth the risk for teams to hire.

I mean this isn’t 1988, people can get their slutty attire-wearing eye candy on instagram.
Fail to the foreskins!  
trueblueinpw : 5/3/2018 6:59 am : link
This is a horrible story and I hope the NFL takes away years of draft picks and forces Boy Danny to own the team until death.

Having said all that, I think some of you are being a bit hard on middle aged men who oggle at half naked women.
RE: It gets even worse  
FStubbs : 5/3/2018 7:03 am : link
In comment 13951294 Matt M. said:
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Allegedly, 9 of the 36 girls were then handpicked by male sponsors to be escorts for them at a nightclub. The girls maintain that sex was not involved, but still...


If there was it was probably of the "grab them by the ..." variety.

Should be a full investigation and if guilty, Snyder should be fined and forced to forfeit draft picks.
The passports might become a key element of the case.  
Big Blue Blogger : 5/3/2018 7:23 am : link
The team better be able to demonstrate that seizure of passports was a clear, reasonable security policy, and that it was equitably applied. For most people, that kind of action is usually associated with human traffickers, not legitimate businesses.

Other aspects of the story could become she-said/she-said between the cheerleaders and their director (the caring, protective “mama bear”). The team is still in trouble though: workplace harassment is mostly judged by the perception of the victim. And the League has to take the accusations seriously, if only as a PR headache.
If the Cheerleaders win a lawsuit then the Redskins  
Jimmy Googs : 5/3/2018 7:26 am : link
should be forced to change their name.

And the judge should decree Snyder to be their butler...
I'm very happy that the G-Men don't have cheerleaders  
Gary from The East End : Admin : 5/3/2018 9:24 am : link
...
The league should take a look at these cheerleading squads.  
Ivan15 : 5/3/2018 9:44 am : link
Every team gets similar complaints, and where there’s smoke, there’s fire.
I am enjoying all the outrage about how  
oghwga : 5/3/2018 9:58 am : link
bad this is and how creepy men can be.
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RE: I am enjoying all the outrage about how  
Gary from The East End : Admin : 5/3/2018 10:39 am : link
In comment 13952354 oghwga said:
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bad this is and how creepy men can be. Link - ( New Window )


Big difference between surreptitiously enjoying the sight of attractive women on the street and forcing your employees to take naked pictures in front of creepy, old men.

Maybe that's just me.
RE: The passports might become a key element of the case.  
section125 : 5/3/2018 10:49 am : link
In comment 13952145 Big Blue Blogger said:
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The team is still in trouble though: workplace harassment is mostly judged by the perception of the victim. And the League has to take the accusations seriously, if only as a PR headache.


This is true.

The passport thing is interesting - I can see collecting them so they don't get misplaced /lost. But coupled with the topless shoot (if not listed pre-trip on the agenda) is disturbing. Could easily be viewed as leverage to compel them to do something against their will.
RE: RE: I am enjoying all the outrage about how  
oghwga : 5/3/2018 10:55 am : link
In comment 13952424 Gary from The East End said:
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In comment 13952354 oghwga said:


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bad this is and how creepy men can be. Link - ( New Window )

I agree, one is definitely worse than the other, but they both grow on the same tree.



Big difference between surreptitiously enjoying the sight of attractive women on the street and forcing your employees to take naked pictures in front of creepy, old men.

Maybe that's just me.
I think I'm going to apply for a job at the Redskins Front Office  
PatersonPlank : 5/3/2018 11:04 am : link
Sounds like my kind of work environment.
My wife's  
Pete in MD : 5/3/2018 11:07 am : link
former boss was famous for being the oldest rookie Redskins Cheerleader. This was many years ago and I think she was in her early 40s at the time. The crazy thing is this woman has a JD and was a VP at the company but apparently it was always her dream to be an NFL cheerleader. After a few years, she became a "team hostess" and had to entertain rich dudes in the luxury suites.
Now is the time  
SJGiant : 5/3/2018 1:07 pm : link
To sign Jake to a long term contract. It gives Jake security and the Mets maybe get a discount. Sign him before next start
Wrong thread  
SJGiant : 5/3/2018 1:07 pm : link
Sorry about that
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