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Giants have been awarded CJ Goodwin (CB) off waivers

26.2 : 5/2/2018 6:18 pm
According to Twitter.
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Guys  
mushroom : 5/2/2018 8:48 pm : link
Look we all know our roster depth stinks but I'm glad they made the moves today. If the players turn out to be better ( or better fit)than the guys they replaced all the better. Yes I know I'm Captain Obvious but even a small improvement is a positive
C'mon Man  
Wazzat : 5/2/2018 8:50 pm : link
He ain't 6-3. He says he's 6-3. That's different.
Pro day he was measured. Unlikely he grew at his age.
RE: C'mon Man  
BleedBlue : 5/2/2018 9:15 pm : link
In comment 13951766 Wazzat said:
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He ain't 6-3. He says he's 6-3. That's different.
Pro day he was measured. Unlikely he grew at his age.


nfl.com has him listed at 6'4 so
If you are going to lie, tell a big lie  
Vanzetti : 5/2/2018 9:26 pm : link
Go from 6'06 to 6'4"

That's the ticket.
Well Green Bay converted a WR to CB.....  
Simms11 : 5/2/2018 9:29 pm : link
remember Sam Shields? He was a Pro Bowl Corner.....you never know, especially with a guy that has speed and knows how a WR thinks.
Eric, the roster is thin, to say the least. But a lot of these guys  
yatqb : 5/2/2018 9:31 pm : link
are camp fodder, so no harm no foul.

Things will pay off down the line, when we have 2nd dibs on what are likely to be pretty useful players.
RE: Eric, the roster is thin, to say the least. But a lot of these guys  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/2/2018 9:36 pm : link
In comment 13951850 yatqb said:
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are camp fodder, so no harm no foul.

Things will pay off down the line, when we have 2nd dibs on what are likely to be pretty useful players.


No argument here and being #2 on the waiver wire helps. But two of the three guys we signed passed through waivers and were unclaimed.

Sign of a good team is one that cuts players and sees them getting picked up. Sign of a bad team is one that keeps picking up castoffs. Again, we're in May here, not September. Makes me think we're going to be particularly active all through September picking up player cuts.
I’ll be here to remind some of you  
djm : 5/2/2018 9:38 pm : link
That you were way off when this team is hanging around December with a winning record.

Forget 2017.
RE: This guy must have Will Allen hands  
giantsFC : 5/2/2018 9:59 pm : link
In comment 13951681 Anakim said:
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If someone that size has to be moved to DB


Lol
RE: RE: Eric, the roster is thin, to say the least. But a lot of these guys  
Breeze_94 : 5/2/2018 10:05 pm : link
In comment 13951863 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 13951850 yatqb said:


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are camp fodder, so no harm no foul.

Things will pay off down the line, when we have 2nd dibs on what are likely to be pretty useful players.



No argument here and being #2 on the waiver wire helps. But two of the three guys we signed passed through waivers and were unclaimed.

Sign of a good team is one that cuts players and sees them getting picked up. Sign of a bad team is one that keeps picking up castoffs. Again, we're in May here, not September. Makes me think we're going to be particularly active all through September picking up player cuts.


I think some of that can be attributed to the fact that the Giants have a new GM and coaching staff in place, so the roster is going to experience a lot of turnover. These moves are an attempt to upgrade the bottom of the roster. Goodwin has familiarity with Bettcher so it makes sense to bring a guy like him in even if he is just a camp body.
Could also mean, they have the #2 slot in waiver wire order  
George from PA : 5/2/2018 11:36 pm : link
So why not take advantage
Is that with, or without heels?  
TC : 5/3/2018 12:03 am : link
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Interesting that....  
UticaMike : 5/3/2018 1:55 am : link
Goodwin is also represented by Drew Rosenhaus. Hmmmmmmmmm....
RE: RE: Eric, the roster is thin, to say the least. But a lot of these guys  
bigbluescot : 5/3/2018 4:35 am : link
In comment 13951863 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 13951850 yatqb said:


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are camp fodder, so no harm no foul.

Things will pay off down the line, when we have 2nd dibs on what are likely to be pretty useful players.



No argument here and being #2 on the waiver wire helps. But two of the three guys we signed passed through waivers and were unclaimed.

Sign of a good team is one that cuts players and sees them getting picked up. Sign of a bad team is one that keeps picking up castoffs. Again, we're in May here, not September. Makes me think we're going to be particularly active all through September picking up player cuts.


While I agree in principle, the Patriots have probably made more waiver wire transactions than anyone else in the league over the last 10 years. They're constantly churning the bottom of their roster.
Question  
Dragon : 5/3/2018 6:54 am : link
Can we send him and like 25 others bad to the list and become blind and deaf for like 72 hour's? We have to have the league record number of players 25 to 30+ years old with little or no real NFL experience.
It's May 3rd By September 9th,we won't remember that  
TheMick7 : 5/3/2018 7:17 am : link
many of these additions were on the roster,it happens every year. As someone said, players are unearthed every season from when they were a JAG on one team & then become a contributor on another based on the system. No harm in trying!
Special Teams Player  
Capt. Don : 5/3/2018 8:13 am : link
If he makes it, it will not be for defense.
If the roster is really bad  
RollBlue : 5/3/2018 8:32 am : link
and MacAdoo is a really bad head coach - how in the world did they go 11-5 just one season ago???

They just hired a new head coach and coordinators, who bring a different philosophy - there's going to be turnover in personal.

IMO, the roster last year was mainly scuttled by injury, exposing Mac as not being a very good coach. Having said that, if they get there 4 top WR out for the year by week 5......
RE: If the roster is really bad  
Capt. Don : 5/3/2018 8:40 am : link
In comment 13952216 RollBlue said:
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and MacAdoo is a really bad head coach - how in the world did they go 11-5 just one season ago???

They just hired a new head coach and coordinators, who bring a different philosophy - there's going to be turnover in personal.

IMO, the roster last year was mainly scuttled by injury, exposing Mac as not being a very good coach. Having said that, if they get there 4 top WR out for the year by week 5......


The season was going awful before the injury bug really hit us.
The lack of talent  
joeinpa : 5/3/2018 8:55 am : link
On this roster was one of the reasons I wanted a quarterback picked and the rebuild begun

I always have believed Eli can still play, just Preferred to have them begin the new era.

But I am excited to see what Eli can do in the next few years
This is pretty misleading...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 5/3/2018 9:20 am : link
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Well Green Bay converted a WR to CB.....
Simms11 : 5/2/2018 9:29 pm : link : reply
remember Sam Shields? He was a Pro Bowl Corner.....you never know, especially with a guy that has speed and knows how a WR thinks.


Shields converted to a CB while at the U and entered the draft as a DB. He wasn't drafted however.
RE: RE: ...  
Bill L : 5/3/2018 9:33 am : link
In comment 13951675 Giants34 said:
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It does show you how bad our roster is that we picked up three people today that were cut by other teams this week. It's May, not early September.



That's not what we're being sold. We're a win-now team according to our GM and head coach. In fact, many people on this website are delusional enough to think we have a playoff roster in a loaded NFC.
I think that. And, I don't feel the least bit delusional.
The bottom 2/3 of the roster  
Dnew15 : 5/3/2018 9:51 am : link
is exactly why we could afford to purchase a shiny, new sports car (Barkley)...we don't have a garage to put it in right now.
Should have traded down..we have bodies...none of which are able...
Collecting bodies also seems to be DG plan for QB of the future...
could NOT afford...  
Dnew15 : 5/3/2018 9:52 am : link
my bad
My Brother Is a Bills' Fan  
Giants34 : 5/3/2018 11:32 am : link
Every offseason, he thinks they are a contender. That is what we have going on here. This team is not a playoff team, let alone a contender. Not with the Eagles, Rams, Vikings, and Saints at the top of the conference. That leaves room for two more playoff teams, and I don't believe we'll be one of them unless ALOT of things go right for us. My bet is by this time next year we will be searching for our next QB and lamenting the fact that we don't have him on our roster yet. Just my two cents, though.

But hey, what do you think is more likely: Eli is going to rebound and we are going to become a contender OR we are going to need a new QB sooner than later. Because I don't think people seem to realize that is the question they should have been asking themselves last week.
RE: The bottom 2/3 of the roster  
Klaatu : 5/3/2018 12:03 pm : link
In comment 13952343 Dnew15 said:
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is exactly why we could afford to purchase a shiny, new sports car (Barkley)...we don't have a garage to put it in right now.
Should have traded down..we have bodies...none of which are able...
Collecting bodies also seems to be DG plan for QB of the future...


The draft is about acquiring talent...the best available talent. That's exactly what we did. And with our first two picks, it's pretty clear that DG plans to revive a running game that's been woefully anemic for way, way, WAY too long. In addition, it seems to me that DG took steps to beef up our defensive front seven, building from the inside out, as opposed to JR building from the outside in.

There is no magic trade-down-tree, and while DG said that he received at least one reasonable offer, it still didn't come close to matching the value he had by staying put...and acquiring the best available talent.
being #2 on the waiver wire...  
BillKo : 5/3/2018 12:07 pm : link
..is going to help big time come September.

Right now, we're filling out a camp roster.
RE: My Brother Is a Bills' Fan  
BillKo : 5/3/2018 12:10 pm : link
In comment 13952544 Giants34 said:
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Every offseason, he thinks they are a contender. That is what we have going on here. This team is not a playoff team, let alone a contender. Not with the Eagles, Rams, Vikings, and Saints at the top of the conference. That leaves room for two more playoff teams, and I don't believe we'll be one of them unless ALOT of things go right for us. My bet is by this time next year we will be searching for our next QB and lamenting the fact that we don't have him on our roster yet. Just my two cents, though.

But hey, what do you think is more likely: Eli is going to rebound and we are going to become a contender OR we are going to need a new QB sooner than later. Because I don't think people seem to realize that is the question they should have been asking themselves last week.


Wouldn't surprise me if one of Eagles, Rams, Vikings, and Saints fall off the playoff radar, and replaced by a new team.

Not saying it's us, but it's the NFL where you play 16 games and roster turnover is pretty large.......expect the unexpected.
RE: My Brother Is a Bills' Fan  
Brown Recluse : 5/3/2018 12:33 pm : link
In comment 13952544 Giants34 said:
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Every offseason, he thinks they are a contender. That is what we have going on here. This team is not a playoff team, let alone a contender. Not with the Eagles, Rams, Vikings, and Saints at the top of the conference. That leaves room for two more playoff teams, and I don't believe we'll be one of them unless ALOT of things go right for us. My bet is by this time next year we will be searching for our next QB and lamenting the fact that we don't have him on our roster yet. Just my two cents, though.

But hey, what do you think is more likely: Eli is going to rebound and we are going to become a contender OR we are going to need a new QB sooner than later. Because I don't think people seem to realize that is the question they should have been asking themselves last week.


The same people...still bitching and moaning.
RE: RE: My Brother Is a Bills' Fan  
Giants34 : 5/3/2018 12:59 pm : link
In comment 13952691 Brown Recluse said:
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Every offseason, he thinks they are a contender. That is what we have going on here. This team is not a playoff team, let alone a contender. Not with the Eagles, Rams, Vikings, and Saints at the top of the conference. That leaves room for two more playoff teams, and I don't believe we'll be one of them unless ALOT of things go right for us. My bet is by this time next year we will be searching for our next QB and lamenting the fact that we don't have him on our roster yet. Just my two cents, though.

But hey, what do you think is more likely: Eli is going to rebound and we are going to become a contender OR we are going to need a new QB sooner than later. Because I don't think people seem to realize that is the question they should have been asking themselves last week.



The same people...still bitching and moaning.


Yes, I am. And I am entitled, as I vehemently disagree with the direction our front office decided to take in the draft.

I just hope the people who supported the Barkley pick - and the people who changed their opinion after the selection - remember these discussions after the season. What amazes me most is how the people who support the Barkley pick think it's absolutely preposterous to believe that either Eli is done or, even if he isn't, that this team still isn't good enough to compete, making the Barkley pick something we could not afford.
If the Giants..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 5/3/2018 1:09 pm : link
believed Barkley was the best player in the draft, and one of the best running backs ever rated, then that alone is a compelling argument on why he was drafted.

It doesn't have to be tied to Eli or next year's success, it can simply be on the premise he'll become one of the best RB's ever.

Are people intentionally missing this point or just ignoring it because it doesn't fit a certain agenda?
I hope that Saquan Barkley  
Dnew15 : 5/3/2018 1:18 pm : link
becomes an All-Pro for the next decade and leads the Giants into the next era of Super Bowl winning teams. I will root for him, I will admit that I am wrong, shoot..I'll go buy his jersey. I just don't think it was the right move.
And as for the "there's no magic trade down tree" - I agree.
Maybe there were no legit offers (minus the donuts and hot dogs - which sound delicious) but I've got a problem with a GM that turns off his phone when his team comes on the clock - we don't know if there was a magic tree because the phone was off. Imagine if EA did that with Eli.
You do..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 5/3/2018 1:44 pm : link
realize EA called SD, not the other way around, right?
RE: I hope that Saquan Barkley  
Klaatu : 5/3/2018 1:59 pm : link
In comment 13952774 Dnew15 said:
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becomes an All-Pro for the next decade and leads the Giants into the next era of Super Bowl winning teams. I will root for him, I will admit that I am wrong, shoot..I'll go buy his jersey. I just don't think it was the right move.
And as for the "there's no magic trade down tree" - I agree.
Maybe there were no legit offers (minus the donuts and hot dogs - which sound delicious) but I've got a problem with a GM that turns off his phone when his team comes on the clock - we don't know if there was a magic tree because the phone was off. Imagine if EA did that with Eli.


Yeah, because you're only allowed to make trades on the day of the draft, when you're on the clock. Just stop with this nonsense.
"Just stop with the nonsense"  
Dnew15 : 5/3/2018 2:35 pm : link
I would agree that trades can happen at any point before and/or after a draft...although I think it's safe to say that most trades happen on draft day while a team is on the clock. By a pretty significant margin.
RE: If the Giants..  
Big_Blue_in_the_Bronx : 5/3/2018 2:36 pm : link
In comment 13952752 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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believed Barkley was the best player in the draft, and one of the best running backs ever rated, then that alone is a compelling argument on why he was drafted.

It doesn't have to be tied to Eli or next year's success, it can simply be on the premise he'll become one of the best RB's ever.

Are people intentionally missing this point or just ignoring it because it doesn't fit a certain agenda?


FMIC this could very well be true but if what JonC and others have speculated is true, then at the very least Darnold (of the 4 top QBs) was quite high on their board.

If they actually thought Eli was cooked or in sharp decline, do they pass up a potential franchise QB?

Somehow I highly doubt it....

What makes more sense at least as far as I can see it is: Yes, Barkley absolutely had a rare grade on our board. BUT we also strongly felt Eli can give us 2 or 3 more championship level years (as Accorsi put it). Couple that with a hard working Webb who they are at least encouraged and cautiously optimistic about. Then drafting one of their top 2nd tier Qbs on their board (to further hedge their bets)...in that context the plan makes alot more sense.
RE: ...  
Big_Blue_in_the_Bronx : 5/3/2018 2:39 pm : link
In comment 13951660 Eric from BBI said:
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It does show you how bad our roster is that we picked up three people today that were cut by other teams this week. It's May, not early September.


Depth and we are high on the waiver wire....Roster is pretty good. Offense could easily be championship level if OL gels, Defense a little more iffy but has some players on it and could be pretty strong or even better depending on some wild cards like Eli Apple.
RE: RE: RE: My Brother Is a Bills' Fan  
BigBlueShock : 5/3/2018 3:12 pm : link
In comment 13952729 Giants34 said:
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Every offseason, he thinks they are a contender. That is what we have going on here. This team is not a playoff team, let alone a contender. Not with the Eagles, Rams, Vikings, and Saints at the top of the conference. That leaves room for two more playoff teams, and I don't believe we'll be one of them unless ALOT of things go right for us. My bet is by this time next year we will be searching for our next QB and lamenting the fact that we don't have him on our roster yet. Just my two cents, though.

But hey, what do you think is more likely: Eli is going to rebound and we are going to become a contender OR we are going to need a new QB sooner than later. Because I don't think people seem to realize that is the question they should have been asking themselves last week.



The same people...still bitching and moaning.



Yes, I am. And I am entitled, as I vehemently disagree with the direction our front office decided to take in the draft.

I just hope the people who supported the Barkley pick - and the people who changed their opinion after the selection - remember these discussions after the season. What amazes me most is how the people who support the Barkley pick think it's absolutely preposterous to believe that either Eli is done or, even if he isn't, that this team still isn't good enough to compete, making the Barkley pick something we could not afford.

How about you call Gettleman and explain that you vehemently disagree with the direction of the team and work it out with him so the rest of us can move on and stop getting this site clogged with the same whining p, bitching, moaning and complaining from the same posters on every thread? I’m sure you can talk some sense into him and he will call Goodell to have the draft redone for you since that must be your objective here, right? I mean, no amaount of hissy fits on BBI is going to change anything so you may as well go straight to the source and leave us the F alone. FFS man, when do we move on?
RE: Great post BBS  
5BowlsSoon : 5/3/2018 3:30 pm : link
In comment 13952965 BigBlueShock said:
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In comment 13952691 Brown Recluse said:


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Every offseason, he thinks they are a contender. That is what we have going on here. This team is not a playoff team, let alone a contender. Not with the Eagles, Rams, Vikings, and Saints at the top of the conference. That leaves room for two more playoff teams, and I don't believe we'll be one of them unless ALOT of things go right for us. My bet is by this time next year we will be searching for our next QB and lamenting the fact that we don't have him on our roster yet. Just my two cents, though.

But hey, what do you think is more likely: Eli is going to rebound and we are going to become a contender OR we are going to need a new QB sooner than later. Because I don't think people seem to realize that is the question they should have been asking themselves last week.



The same people...still bitching and moaning.



Yes, I am. And I am entitled, as I vehemently disagree with the direction our front office decided to take in the draft.

I just hope the people who supported the Barkley pick - and the people who changed their opinion after the selection - remember these discussions after the season. What amazes me most is how the people who support the Barkley pick think it's absolutely preposterous to believe that either Eli is done or, even if he isn't, that this team still isn't good enough to compete, making the Barkley pick something we could not afford.


How about you call Gettleman and explain that you vehemently disagree with the direction of the team and work it out with him so the rest of us can move on and stop getting this site clogged with the same whining p, bitching, moaning and complaining from the same posters on every thread? I’m sure you can talk some sense into him and he will call Goodell to have the draft redone for you since that must be your objective here, right? I mean, no amaount of hissy fits on BBI is going to change anything so you may as well go straight to the source and leave us the F alone. FFS man, when do we move on?


+1000
RE: RE: ...completely agree  
5BowlsSoon : 5/3/2018 3:38 pm : link
In comment 13952913 Big_Blue_in_the_Bronx said:
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In comment 13951660 Eric from BBI said:


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It does show you how bad our roster is that we picked up three people today that were cut by other teams this week. It's May, not early September.



Depth and we are high on the waiver wire....Roster is pretty good. Offense could easily be championship level if OL gels, Defense a little more iffy but has some players on it and could be pretty strong or even better depending on some wild cards like Eli Apple.


I don’t see how people can mock our lineup now....we have made a dramatic improvement since DG has taken the reigns. I believe we are now good enough to compete even against the world champs and especially against the Cowgirls.
BBI should have posts...  
Dnew15 : 5/3/2018 4:11 pm : link
just about how the Giants are going to go to improve, win, make the playoffs and win super bowls.
That would make some BBi posters thrilled.
Blind Followers only would make for a boring message board.
RE: BBI should have posts...  
BigBlueShock : 5/3/2018 4:38 pm : link
In comment 13953027 Dnew15 said:
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just about how the Giants are going to go to improve, win, make the playoffs and win super bowls.
That would make some BBi posters thrilled.
Blind Followers only would make for a boring message board.

This is exactly the kind of post as to why nobody on this site takes you seriously. Absolutely brutal.

You whiners all spew the same nonsense post after post after post and create narratives for the other side that dont exist. Always assigning cute nicknames like “blind followers” to the people that are ready to move on and see how things play out before slitting our wrists. You clowns CONSTANTLY throwing hissy fits on every thread doesn’t accomanything and neither do the cute nicknames you keep throwing around.

One thing has been incredibly consistent in all of these threads. All of the super angry, foaming at the mouth posters who can barely breathe because they are so upset are some of the very worst posters on this site that contribute absnothing otherwise. Just look at the posters posting this crap. Their track records aren’t exactly exemplary around here. Congratulations on being a proud part of that club...
RE: RE: BBI should have posts...  
Klaatu : 5/3/2018 5:01 pm : link
In comment 13953097 BigBlueShock said:
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In comment 13953027 Dnew15 said:


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just about how the Giants are going to go to improve, win, make the playoffs and win super bowls.
That would make some BBi posters thrilled.
Blind Followers only would make for a boring message board.


This is exactly the kind of post as to why nobody on this site takes you seriously. Absolutely brutal.

You whiners all spew the same nonsense post after post after post and create narratives for the other side that dont exist. Always assigning cute nicknames like “blind followers” to the people that are ready to move on and see how things play out before slitting our wrists. You clowns CONSTANTLY throwing hissy fits on every thread doesn’t accomanything and neither do the cute nicknames you keep throwing around.

One thing has been incredibly consistent in all of these threads. All of the super angry, foaming at the mouth posters who can barely breathe because they are so upset are some of the very worst posters on this site that contribute absnothing otherwise. Just look at the posters posting this crap. Their track records aren’t exactly exemplary around here. Congratulations on being a proud part of that club...


What narrative  
Dnew15 : 5/3/2018 6:05 pm : link
Doesn’t exist?
And what track record?  
Dnew15 : 5/3/2018 6:09 pm : link
And what club do I belong to now? And who’s slitting their wrist or foaming at the mouth? I just disagree with some of the moves that the Giants are making and believe they should have gone in a different direction and enjoy conversing back and forth about it - work was slow this week.
Sorry if I upset anyone.
RE: RE: RE: My Brother Is a Bills' Fan  
santacruzom : 5/3/2018 6:47 pm : link
In comment 13952729 Giants34 said:
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I just hope the people who supported the Barkley pick - and the people who changed their opinion after the selection - remember these discussions after the season.


After THE season? Do you honestly believe that if we traded down or drafted a QB, we'd finish 2018-2019 with a far deeper playoff run than we will having drafted Barkley?
If you put stock in the recent NY Post article  
JonC : 5/4/2018 10:14 am : link
and other info that's been reported, it would suggest my speculation about how highly Darnold was regarded was probably not correct.

It appears it was Barkley #1 target, Chubb if Barkley was gone, and Nelson if they decided a trade down was too good to turn down. It doesn't appear a QB factored in otherwise, based on recent reports.

The Giants did their diligence on all the QBs  
Jimmy Googs : 5/4/2018 10:31 am : link
and no one convinced DG that he should do anything other than keep the #2 pick and take Barkley.

End of story...
If Barkley is the better player after a few years,sure, end of story  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/4/2018 1:47 pm : link
And if he's not, there will be plenty of questions to answer, as there would be for any team in the same situation.

Considering that we second and third guess drafts all the time when the results are poor, it's odd that there's a number of users here that are very eager to forget the draft and just chalk it up to a clear win sight unseen.
RE: If Barkley is the better player after a few years,sure, end of story  
Jimmy Googs : 5/4/2018 1:59 pm : link
In comment 13954432 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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And if he's not, there will be plenty of questions to answer, as there would be for any team in the same situation.

Considering that we second and third guess drafts all the time when the results are poor, it's odd that there's a number of users here that are very eager to forget the draft and just chalk it up to a clear win sight unseen.


I didn't infer that at all TTH. My end of story was just indicating how the selection was made.

The pick will undoubtedly be second-guessed over what comes down the pike with the Giants and the teams that picked those QBs...
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