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Giants sign free agent DB Orion Stewart

Metnut : 5/3/2018 10:44 am
Looks like he was with Denver previously. Anyone know much about him?
Sounds..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 5/3/2018 10:45 am : link
like a star!!
anyone else notice  
Giantsfan79 : 5/3/2018 10:48 am : link
that we've signed several Redskin castoffs in the last few days.
RE: Sounds..  
antdog24 : 5/3/2018 10:48 am : link
In comment 13952433 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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like a star!!

2017 out of Baylor  
BillT : 5/3/2018 10:49 am : link
6' 203 SS. 4.58 40. Just released from the Skins.
Camp fodder. NFL.com rated him about a 4.85 on their prospect scale  
yatqb : 5/3/2018 10:50 am : link
last year.
The Giants have collected  
Dnew15 : 5/3/2018 10:54 am : link
an impressive amount of crappy DBs.
I wonder what position DG is most concerned about?  
George from PA : 5/3/2018 10:58 am : link
The theory of throwing enough things against the wall hoping for something to stick is the plan.
A. They need bodies for camp.  
old man : 5/3/2018 11:05 am : link
B. They need DB and S.
C. We don't know what Bettchers scheme is for the secondary but I'M sure he's just trying to find the guys that best for it, and these signings may best do that.

RELAX.
Throw enough shit at the wall . . . .  
AnnapolisMike : 5/3/2018 11:12 am : link
.
Orion?  
Klaatu : 5/3/2018 11:15 am : link
Now sign Lightray!
RE: Sounds..  
Montreal Man : 5/3/2018 11:20 am : link
In comment 13952433 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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like a star!!


Ha!

Although the rimshot above  
Montreal Man : 5/3/2018 11:22 am : link
said it all.
So basically...  
Knee of Theismann : 5/3/2018 11:22 am : link
If this guy ends up on the field in an actual game, we're completely fucked.
.  
Capt. Don : 5/3/2018 11:24 am : link
"Only 6ft 2in?"

- CJ Goodwin
You guys realize  
T-Bone : 5/3/2018 11:24 am : link
it's May right?
Well..  
Knee of Theismann : 5/3/2018 11:26 am : link
I did just read he "gobbled up tackles on special teams" his first two years at Baylor. Good instinct in closing running lanes. Best case scenario he's a decent special teamer for us?
Yes, it's May  
Dnew15 : 5/3/2018 11:29 am : link
Yes, the Giants need bodies for camp
Yes, some of these guys will end up on the final 53
Yes, one or more will be play significant time during the season
Yes, the defensive backfield is lacking talent
Seems C.J. Goodwin has a better shot at seeing playing time  
Knee of Theismann : 5/3/2018 11:30 am : link
And I'm basing that entirely on the fact he has a Wikipedia page and Stewart doesn't... lol waiting on my offer from NFL Network...
These players might not look like much  
NY-Fan : 5/3/2018 11:58 am : link
But I have seen players time and time again find success with other teams and have long careers. Not every player can be an all pro. At least they are bringing in competition and players with experience.
You guys complain about everything.  
Brown Recluse : 5/3/2018 12:00 pm : link
At least be encouraged by the fact that they're actually searching for depth.
Once they start signing rookies they will need  
ZogZerg : 5/3/2018 12:03 pm : link
to start cutting guys.
Brown Recluse  
NY-Fan : 5/3/2018 12:06 pm : link
Thatís what Iím saying. At least they are doing something. Never know who might make that one play that could change a season. Plus the bottom of the roster needs help.
In this case  
JonC : 5/3/2018 12:10 pm : link
they need competition for the backup SS spot.
RE: Yes, it's May  
T-Bone : 5/3/2018 12:11 pm : link
In comment 13952535 Dnew15 said:
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Yes, the Giants need bodies for camp
Yes, some of these guys will end up on the final 53
Yes, one or more will be play significant time during the season
Yes, the defensive backfield is lacking talent


Good... then... R...E...L...A...X
At this time of year there's no other option  
JonC : 5/3/2018 12:14 pm : link
but to stockpile bodies and see who emerges at camp. There wasn't much available in the UFA market, and DG is a GM who tends to undervalue the secondary in terms of investment.
RE: At this time of year there's no other option  
Klaatu : 5/3/2018 12:35 pm : link
In comment 13952650 JonC said:
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but to stockpile bodies and see who emerges at camp. There wasn't much available in the UFA market, and DG is a GM who tends to undervalue the secondary in terms of investment.


As opposed to JR, who took the opposite approach.

There wasn't much CB talent available after midway through the second round, and I'm glad DG didn't reach for any.

So...they're thin in the defensive backfield. For now, on May 3. Well, we'll see what they look like in three months.
RE: RE: At this time of year there's no other option  
Brown Recluse : 5/3/2018 12:39 pm : link
In comment 13952692 Klaatu said:
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In comment 13952650 JonC said:


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but to stockpile bodies and see who emerges at camp. There wasn't much available in the UFA market, and DG is a GM who tends to undervalue the secondary in terms of investment.



As opposed to JR, who took the opposite approach.

There wasn't much CB talent available after midway through the second round, and I'm glad DG didn't reach for any.

So...they're thin in the defensive backfield. For now, on May 3. Well, we'll see what they look like in three months.


See, I was gonna go there but I didn't want T-Bone jumping all over me, haha.
I'm sure three months from now things will be better..  
Dnew15 : 5/3/2018 1:09 pm : link
situation will be better.
As of right now - the Giants have one legit starting NFL corner and one legit starting safety.
They just continue to collect hot garbage off the trash heap and things will get better (I guess one can hope).
I get the philosophy - I get what they are trying to do.
A squirrel finds a nut every now and then. With the salary cap - you have to get lucky with a couple of guys like the ones they are bringing in.
I"ve just got a problem with the plan as a whole...AND
I'm not complaining - I'm just giving my opinion (pretty sure that's what these sites are for).
That defense is going to be a mess this year unless they can miraculously rush the passer significantly better and/or the new DC can work some magic.
Possible - sure
Probable - not really
Just my opinion.
RE: The Giants have collected  
micky : 5/3/2018 1:13 pm : link
In comment 13952455 Dnew15 said:
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an impressive amount of crappy DBs.








lol
Some of you guys are unbearable.  
Miamijints : 5/3/2018 1:13 pm : link
DG is doing what he always does. How do you think he discovered Andrew Norwell? Jeez. Some of these signings will be camp fodder, some will make the final 53. I appreciate a GM that is actually working to unearth talent fits 24/7. If the Pats signed this guy everybody would be calling it genius! Lol.
RE: I'm sure three months from now things will be better..  
eric2425ny : 5/3/2018 1:16 pm : link
In comment 13952754 Dnew15 said:
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situation will be better.
As of right now - the Giants have one legit starting NFL corner and one legit starting safety.
They just continue to collect hot garbage off the trash heap and things will get better (I guess one can hope).
I get the philosophy - I get what they are trying to do.
A squirrel finds a nut every now and then. With the salary cap - you have to get lucky with a couple of guys like the ones they are bringing in.
I"ve just got a problem with the plan as a whole...AND
I'm not complaining - I'm just giving my opinion (pretty sure that's what these sites are for).
That defense is going to be a mess this year unless they can miraculously rush the passer significantly better and/or the new DC can work some magic.
Possible - sure
Probable - not really
Just my opinion.


I like what DG has done, not overpaying or reaching for DBís, etc, but I am concerned about our CB depth. I wish we had resigned Cockrell, his price tag was really not that high. My guess is they see how these guys they have brought in look in camp and probably bring in a veteran or two after June 1st cuts.
RE: RE: RE: At this time of year there's no other option  
T-Bone : 5/3/2018 1:18 pm : link
In comment 13952698 Brown Recluse said:
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In comment 13952692 Klaatu said:


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In comment 13952650 JonC said:


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but to stockpile bodies and see who emerges at camp. There wasn't much available in the UFA market, and DG is a GM who tends to undervalue the secondary in terms of investment.



As opposed to JR, who took the opposite approach.

There wasn't much CB talent available after midway through the second round, and I'm glad DG didn't reach for any.

So...they're thin in the defensive backfield. For now, on May 3. Well, we'll see what they look like in three months.



See, I was gonna go there but I didn't want T-Bone jumping all over me, haha.


LOL! I've tried to pick my spots BR! Most days I just shake my head at the constant Reese attacks (although I'm not sure what Klaatu said was an attack)... like a certain site administrator who just HAD to mention how picking up a CB from the waiver wire in May pointed to 'just how bad the talent on this roster really is' (I swear he just copy and pastes that on every thread lol) on another thread today. At this point I'm just trying to let everyone get it out their system... which hopefully will be by 2020.
Roster in transition  
JonC : 5/3/2018 1:21 pm : link
why do you think posters are suggesting it will take two years to put the contending roster in place ... two offseasons or more was to be expected.

Are roster in transition  
Dnew15 : 5/3/2018 1:25 pm : link
and rebuilding synonymous?
They are rebuilding to an extent  
JonC : 5/3/2018 1:36 pm : link
and trying to win at the same time. It's not entirely one or the other, despite what might be said by the team or what fans will try to focus on.
Unless you all missed how the secondary played last season  
Jimmy Googs : 5/3/2018 2:05 pm : link
Mr. Stewart has a decent chance to make this team.

Maybe at least he will try...
RE:  
Klaatu : 5/3/2018 2:08 pm : link
In comment 13952773 T-Bone said:
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LOL! I've tried to pick my spots BR! Most days I just shake my head at the constant Reese attacks (although I'm not sure what Klaatu said was an attack)... like a certain site administrator who just HAD to mention how picking up a CB from the waiver wire in May pointed to 'just how bad the talent on this roster really is' (I swear he just copy and pastes that on every thread lol) on another thread today. At this point I'm just trying to let everyone get it out their system... which hopefully will be by 2020.


No, not an attack, per se. In fact, up until the last couple of years, most would have considered me a "Reese apologist."

However, I do like what seems to be a change in team-building philosophy from JR to DG, at least, so far, as the draft is concerned.

I like DG using his resources to improve the running game. I like the way he's improving the front seven. If he has to sacrifice the secondary, at least in the short-term, so be it.
Who are we cutting  
ChicagoMarty : 5/3/2018 2:23 pm : link
to make roster room for all these rejects?
RE: RE:  
T-Bone : 5/3/2018 2:32 pm : link
In comment 13952854 Klaatu said:
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In comment 13952773 T-Bone said:


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LOL! I've tried to pick my spots BR! Most days I just shake my head at the constant Reese attacks (although I'm not sure what Klaatu said was an attack)... like a certain site administrator who just HAD to mention how picking up a CB from the waiver wire in May pointed to 'just how bad the talent on this roster really is' (I swear he just copy and pastes that on every thread lol) on another thread today. At this point I'm just trying to let everyone get it out their system... which hopefully will be by 2020.



No, not an attack, per se. In fact, up until the last couple of years, most would have considered me a "Reese apologist."

However, I do like what seems to be a change in team-building philosophy from JR to DG, at least, so far, as the draft is concerned.

I like DG using his resources to improve the running game. I like the way he's improving the front seven. If he has to sacrifice the secondary, at least in the short-term, so be it.


Yeah I didn't think your post was meant as an attack.

And I'm with you... I really like this draft and at this point in time it appears to be an awesome draft that I hope he continues to have as we go along here. Reese had a few strong drafts here and there as well (particularly his first, just like DG's)... but, and this is just going off this first draft of his as Giants GM... there seemed to be more of a 'plan' with regards to the draft than Reese's past several (notice I didn't say 'few') drafts.
RE: Who are we cutting  
Giantology : 5/3/2018 2:33 pm : link
In comment 13952879 ChicagoMarty said:
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to make roster room for all these rejects?


Are we at the 90 player limit yet?
Again, last year's  
RollBlue : 5/3/2018 2:43 pm : link
team, on paper, was more talented than the 2016 team that went 11-5 - is anyone seriously questioning that?

The combination of loosing one of the best players in the league (drafted 12th overall BTW) and all the other injuries, combined with poor coaching lead to 3-13. The three games OBJ played (less than 100%), them team had leads with less than 3 minutes to go.

This years team, on paper, starts out better than 2016. Health and decent coaching should lead to at least a WC berth. Unfortunately, we can't guarantee either.
No one thought the eagles  
Blueforever : 5/3/2018 3:42 pm : link
Had much at CB and we saw what happened there.
Iím fine with going into the season with issues  
UberAlias : 5/3/2018 3:58 pm : link
As long as we have legitimate answers for what we have addressed and the arrow is pointing upwards, we are on the right course. This was never going to be a one year turnaround.
It appears every Giants GM  
giantsFC : 5/3/2018 4:40 pm : link
has that neglect for one or two positions. *tuba noise*

Though I am a firm believer that DB's in this era of the NFL aren't particularly more valuable then others outside of the top 10-20 in the league.

But still. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
Always..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 5/3/2018 4:42 pm : link
a beautiful moment to see somebody chime in who doesn't know the fucking roster limits, but trashes the signees:

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Who are we cutting
ChicagoMarty : 2:23 pm : link : reply
to make roster room for all these rejects?
The Eagles didn't have much in the secondary,  
prdave73 : 5/3/2018 5:42 pm : link
But the had a pass rush that made them better..
Orion  
idiotsavant : 5/3/2018 6:57 pm : link
Famous metal tune.

I guess the Seal wore thin in the locker room.
I don't think we have the pass rush you'd need to survive  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/3/2018 7:03 pm : link
if this secondary starts losing players to injury.
RE: You guys realize  
BMac : 5/3/2018 7:41 pm : link
In comment 13952527 T-Bone said:
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it's May right?


I see no evidence that anyone sees any evidence. It;s either misdirected snark or complete ignorance. Typical South of the Border activity.
RE: Who are we cutting  
BMac : 5/3/2018 7:45 pm : link
In comment 13952879 ChicagoMarty said:
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to make roster room for all these rejects?


Chicago Marty. Maybe he can catch on with the Bears?
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