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Rank these possibilities in order of most to least likely

Knee of Theismann : 5/3/2018 3:31 pm
I think we can all agree if the offensive line does not improve significantly from last year, this team is not going anywhere anyway. So let's assume for now the o-line holds together pretty well: Solder is as advertised, Hernandez has a very nice rookie season, Brett Jones improves some and holds his own at Center, Omameh proves to be a serviceable starting guard, and we find someone to play RT that is not a completely laughing-stock. Okay... these are slightly doomsday-ish scenarios, but which of these scenarios are most/least likely.

Let me preface this by saying I do not want ANY of these scenarios to become a reality, I'm actually posting this because I believe if all three turn out to NOT be true, AND we have an improved O-Line as stated above, this team could contend for the playoffs...

Three scenarios:

1) It turns out, due to the injury, Beckham is not the same WR he once was, a la Cruz after his injury. Sure he puts up decent numbers but he is not the dominant force he once was and is simply an above-average starting WR. The regression is to the point that he is not worth anywhere near $18M per year and the Giants are unwilling to sign him to a big long-term deal in spite of his production the first 3 years of his career.

(COUNTER-SCENARIO: Beckham returns to his old form and has a great year, likely justifying a massive multi-year contract)


2) Saquon Barkley's skills clearly do not translate to the NFL, to the point that by the end of his rookie season most of us are considering he may very well be a "bust". He can't break tackles at the LOS, he can't juke and spin away from defenders the way he did in college, he shows flashes of greatness here and there but just can't do enough consistently to be the every-down dynamic threat we thought he was (i.e. he goes the way of Reggie Bush).

(COUNTER-SCENARIO: Barkley has a very promising rookie season, contributes as a threat as a runner, receiver, pass-blocker, and puts up numbers to the point that he is in the conversation for offensive rookie of the year).


3) Eli Manning, despite now having an improved offensive line and healthy skills players, clearly just doesn't have it anymore. He's inaccurate, inconsistent, shows loss of arm strength, and the turnover monster comes back to haunt him, especially at the worst times. Once the Giants are out of playoff contention, it is clearly time to move on from Eli, and Webb/Lauletta get a shot to show what they have.

(COUNTER-SCENARIO: Eli has a very nice comeback season, throws for around 4,000 yards, keeps turnovers down, leads the Giants to a playoff berth, and is in the conversation for comeback player of the year).


This may be a cop-out, but I'm not going to rank these myself, mainly because I really don't know how I would rank them. I'm just posting this because I think our season hinges a lot on these scenarios and I'm curious to get y'all's opinions on how likely/unlikely each one is. Thanks.
From most to least likely  
ron mexico : 5/3/2018 3:38 pm : link
3
2
1
Easy  
Keith : 5/3/2018 3:38 pm : link
3-2-1
duh  
Dodge : 5/3/2018 3:40 pm : link
321
Thanks guys  
Knee of Theismann : 5/3/2018 3:44 pm : link
This is at least putting my mind at ease that y'all are confident that OBJ's injury will not hold him back. He relies so much on his lightening speed and quickness that I fear if he loses a step he won't be the same player. Then again, I'm not a doctor and I really don't know how serious this type of injury is.
3-1-2  
UberAlias : 5/3/2018 3:52 pm : link
Is my guess.
Broken ankles  
Everyone Relax : 5/3/2018 3:59 pm : link
historically don't hinder a players career the same way a ligament or micro fracture injury would. I would think 3 is the most likely, while 1 & 2 seem like long shots (barring any further injuries).
3 1 2, but only because  
mikeinbloomfield : 5/3/2018 4:02 pm : link
injuries are funny things. There are the slightest of chances the injury doesn't fully heal, he re-injures it, or favoring it makes him injure something else.

I put this at 10% probability, but that's still higher than Barkley being a bust. HOWEVER, you're scenario does not mention Barkley hurting something important (knock wood), a la Ki-Jana Carter. That probability would be equal to the Beckham one.

Fun exercise, thanks.
I see it different  
Giant John : 5/3/2018 4:14 pm : link
1, 3, 2.
Different as well  
V.I.G. : 5/3/2018 4:41 pm : link
1,2,3.
But I think all are very real possibilities.

Only reason I have Eli at 3 is that if OBJ/SB meet expectations, shurmur should be able to make up for your hypothetical of a declining Eli for a year or two...
im going to be more optimistic  
sharpshooter66 : 5/3/2018 5:30 pm : link
amd go with the counter scenario. I think its most likely that this team rebaounds and pushes for a playoff birth
Rank the following three topics as to which will have  
JohnF : 5/3/2018 8:28 pm : link
the most discussion on BBI between now and opening day:

1) Why the Giants made a mistake not picking Darnold, Rosen or Allen, since HOF running backs can be picked in the 4th round.

Extra points if you pick the years these QB's will will NFL MVP.

2) Why Eli will be "declining" in 2018, despite having a better offensive line, Barkley, a healthy OBJ, and a offensive Coaching staff that actually knows more than one formation.

Extra points if you pick the Game Eli will be pulled this year, for Webb (who will also fail).

3) Why, post Eli, the Giants are about the replicate their performance...and lack of success...in the 70's.

BONUS points if you identify the trolls that will start these threads multiple times, and how many times they will do so! /sarcasm


All,  
oldog : 5/4/2018 9:38 am : link
are so unlikely its impossible to rank. OBJ's strength is his indomitable will. Eli will at least return to baseline, and Barkley has the hands and moves to excel, even if those giant holes don't open up. So don't try to lure true optimistic Giant fans into your pessimism trap.
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