Landon Collins & Brandon Jacobs on WFAN

In comment 13954388 Dragon said:

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Has to be the worst LT to ever play in the NFL I mean he started like 40+ games and they had to replace his QB like what 50 times, oh no that’s not right never. Now let’s not forget he had a Carl Lewis type speed merchant playing QB so every tiny mistake is a tragic error. We just paid a LT the record amount to do his job why because this guy is going to never allow a sack again from his former position. I’m so sick of hearing Eli Apple and Ereck Flowers were the reason why this team sucked from start to finish when it was a complete team effort. Let’s see what happens with the new and improved line or somewhat improved offensive line I don’t even know what to call them at this point.

Tony Mandarich was worse

that “Flowers has to work harder if he’s ever going to reach the potential the Giants saw in him when they drafted him”. That’s also very telling. I think Collins will be more of a leader this year too. With that said, Collins didn’t say anything wrong IMO. He’s very honest and I think that’s refreshing actually.

Lost his specific job, but transferred to another location,has to compete , for the first time, for the prime job there.
It's not a thrilling experience.
That said, if he hasn't been paying attention to general consensus comments from those outside the organization, then he needs a real wake up call.

The most important item that I took from the interview was the high regard that Collins has for Webb
He said that Webb can make every throw, into small windows where only the receiver can catch the ball
Colin’s said he would know as he played against Webb in practice

He also offered that Webb is studious and has the temperament to be the man

Other than coaching youth football.

In comment 13954417 Simms11 said:

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that “Flowers has to work harder if he’s ever going to reach the potential the Giants saw in him when they drafted him”. That’s also very telling. I think Collins will be more of a leader this year too. With that said, Collins didn’t say anything wrong IMO. He’s very honest and I think that’s refreshing actually.

Collins has excellent leadership qualities and should be the face of our D. Hopefully he's molded to be our Brian Dawkins. He has every right as the leader to call out Ol' Three Whiff for not showing up at camp.

In comment 13954464 youtoo2 said:

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Other than coaching youth football.

That’s it. He was asked about every having a booth no as Boomer thought he’d be great for it but he said that he wasn’t meant to have ties to the NFL post playing career. Said he much more enjoys working with kids and lives off of the interest from his playing days. I love that answer, and I love how he’s trying to teach youth and give them someone tangible to look up to.

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Great nice guy, every bit 6'4" and 260 lbs+.

In comment 13954411 UConn4523 said:

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In comment 13954325 Bill L said: Quote: working out, getting better, becoming part of the team, helping the team to become a winning franchises, is not pouting? Tell me how that helps him and how that is looking out for his best interest. Collins actually said a lot of players are simply more comfortable and think they get a better workout with their own trainers. Whether that’s a good idea is debatable but it’s not like he’s blowing off football.

Jacobs said that. Not Collins.

either way the point remains.

and not in-house stuff. I don't think Collins did anything wrong.

There was a long, long article last year about Eli and the family dysfunctions last year. And Flowers being upset about losing his position is just common sense. Of course, he is upset. The question is what he is going to do about it now that he hired a reasonable person to advise him.

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In comment 13954267 Victor in CT said: Quote: Esiasion and the other assholes were yucking it up over some Francesa clip. I'll repeat, whatever faults Mike has, he NEVER disparages other hosts on the station on his show, and won't allow callers to do it either. They made me miss Fat Mike. At least he sticks to sports, given his superficial football analysis, now too hot stove Yankee trade rumors. These idiots on WFAN and ESPN try to be up yuck it up personalities, unbearable. News flash, you should have an actual personality.

That's just how morning shows are, and it's not unique to B&G. It's not unique to NYC. It's not unique to sports talk radio. Nearly every morning radio show, regardless of hosts, market, or format has their yuk-it-up elements.

as if everyone already knew about it, which we all did. I don’t have a problem with it. In general I don’t really care about this kind of suff unless it was malicious.

Did he really think he was in line for Top LT money? He's had 3 years to lock down that position, given every opportunity to succeed and hasn't done so. He was clearly on the Fluker path of 4 years followed by a low annual 1 yr prove it deal. If anything, the move to RT may be a blessing for him, he needed a change because the status quo wasn't doing him any favors.

One common denominator between Apple and Flowers is the involvement of the parents in their professional affairs. I'm not talking about guiding them but actually being the one calling the shots as their manager or agent. Obviously, it's a generalization but that has to be where the deluded sense of entitlement comes from. If you're in this fantasy land bubble of life as a professional athlete, you need an objective outside perspective in your camp that can ground your ego a little.

Rosenbaus has been hired. If he though it would hurt him this badly would he suggest or demand that he show up?

I simply think it’s more than “show up or you are a shitty teammate” like many like to subscribe to. As usual, fans blow most things out of proportion.

Rory, his best interest is to get to every single NYG activity to improve and earn his next role on the team and paycheck.

No NFL team will look at Flowers and say his decision to skip workouts under a new coaching staff and playbook is helping his future potential and his value as a player.

In comment 13954202 arcarsenal said:

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Lanton Collins should probably just fall in line here and STFU if we're being honest.

Yeah he's very big on airing dirty laundry and sharing what was said. Uncool. Not what leaders do.

In comment 13954290 Rory said:

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holdout. An I'm not trying to say he's the future LT of the team but Apply the same scenario to yourself... I'm sure anyone and everyone on this board would be pissed and feel cheated if the company you worked for replaced you with someone new and you had to find out from that person. NO you wouldn't stop going to work, but you would prob not attend any of the "VOLUNTARY" work events such as team builders and fundraisers. I know I wouldn't, and I def would start speaking to other companies or get council This is similar to what is happening with Flowers. So If this is true, it makes sense for Flowers to make a business decision.

If you are playing/working at a high level, then yeah definitely would be upset about the “demotion”. But you have to have an honest assessment of yourself before you start throwing tantrums with your employer. While Flowers isn’t quite a bust, he has not performed such that his displacement couldn’t be justified. And nevertheless still collecting a hefty check.

at a high level... to think anyone, in any profession, can underperform for the entirety of their work history and not have any consequence, is to live in a fantasy world

Thought maybe it got a little lost with the talk about Flowers but this was during his interview yesterday on the Fan

"He is the future," Collins said when asked about his thoughts on Webb after watching him in practice. "When I play against him he puts some balls over my head, over Jackrabbit's (Janoris Jenkins) head in perfect spots where either the receiver is catching the ball or no one is catching the ball."

Boomer asked about how Webb is on the sidelines, in practice, and in games.

"Comfortable," Collins said using a word to describe Webb. "He's always next to Eli, earpiece in his ears, he's the future."

Would have loved to see Webb get a chance at some point last year.
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butt hurt prom girls whining about Collins and Flowers. Not one of you numbnuts give a fuck about Flowers and would (and already have) throw him under a bus. He said what everyone of us already knew that Flowers was pissed about them signing Solder.