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Let's Watch Bobby Hart

wonderback : 5/5/2018 4:04 pm
There's a reason I'm posting this and it's not to make us all sick. It's to show us how bad the former coaching staff along with the GM were in evaluating offensive line talent and ...

how the heck did any of you guys expect Eli Manning to perform at the QB position with complete incompetents blocking for him. (watch John Jerry in some of these plays as well).
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And on the other side ...  
Spider56 : 5/5/2018 4:27 pm : link
At least in these particular clips, Flowers did not look all that bad ...
Flowers is not a lost cause  
Big_Blue_in_the_Bronx : 5/5/2018 4:29 pm : link
And could be a half decent RT if he got his head back on straight.
Ugly stuff!  
TC : 5/5/2018 4:38 pm : link
Almost comically bad. But I notice Eli isn't laughing.
Really slow Saturday  
section125 : 5/5/2018 4:39 pm : link
eh?
Do I have to?  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/5/2018 4:42 pm : link
And lol at Flowers not being a lost cause. Sure thing.
Wow,  
chopperhatch : 5/5/2018 4:44 pm : link
He looks even more like wet doo doo in those clips. You also never really see a writer/blogger/analyst of another team completely undress a player's ability before the guy even takes his first snap.
I went back and watched  
sharpshooter66 : 5/5/2018 4:45 pm : link
a lot of games from the last 2 years when everyone was screaming to draft a QB and posted a few similar videos of Hart, Jerry, Flowers and others getting mashed play after play. You just cant play QB in those conditions.
I'd like to see Gettleman and the coaches  
GeorgeAdams33 : 5/5/2018 4:49 pm : link
remedy this situation by explaining to Ereck that we were trying to improve the offensive line while letting Pugh, Richburg, & Fluker walk. The first target in FA, Norwell, was a Guard, but he chose another offer. The next best player to target just happens to be a LT. Solder has played RT before and he proved himself enough to be inserted at LT by Belichick when it was needed. I am hopeful that Flowers understands that we were somewhat limited in our options when it comes to fielding a good line in 2018. I think that Ereck's new agent will try to remedy the situation by proposing a trade if he finds a suitor, but I'd rather see the Giants reach out to a young kid who has been through enough and at this point might just need a change of scenery. He could be a really good RT and if Wheeler has to switch sides to play RT then we don't have a competent backup at LT.
What other disasters do you want us to watch?  
Gman11 : 5/5/2018 4:52 pm : link
The Titanic sinking?
The Hindenburg blowing up?
....
It's not the kid's fault  
GeorgeAdams33 : 5/5/2018 4:56 pm : link
.. that Reese over drafted him. He was supposed to be at RT from day one and was quoted as saying that it didn't matter what side he was on. Reese told a few established vets at their tryouts that if we signed them they'd have to switch to RT to accommodate Flowers hopefully developing into a decent LT. Reese is to blame for this mess. You can't just will players to meet their draft status. Pugh was a 2nd round LG/C from day one. Richburg probably could've been taken in the 4th round and Flowers was no top ten pick. I hope that we can straighten out his head and his technique, but him staying away is really just stupid. Glad he hired the agent
Hart and Flowers  
JerrysKids : 5/5/2018 5:00 pm : link
are the worst pair of tackles in the NFL.
Flowers  
Professor Falken : 5/5/2018 5:17 pm : link
Oy.
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RE: Hart and Flowers  
TC : 5/5/2018 5:30 pm : link
In comment 13955607 JerrysKids said:
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are the worst pair of tackles in the NFL.

Sounds like a swing tune from the '30's!
RE: It's not the kid's fault  
chopperhatch : 5/5/2018 5:34 pm : link
In comment 13955603 GeorgeAdams33 said:
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.. that Reese over drafted him. He was supposed to be at RT from day one and was quoted as saying that it didn't matter what side he was on. Reese told a few established vets at their tryouts that if we signed them they'd have to switch to RT to accommodate Flowers hopefully developing into a decent LT. Reese is to blame for this mess. You can't just will players to meet their draft status. Pugh was a 2nd round LG/C from day one. Richburg probably could've been taken in the 4th round and Flowers was no top ten pick. I hope that we can straighten out his head and his technique, but him staying away is really just stupid. Glad he hired the agent


No offense, but basically everything about your post is just incorrect.

1) He was supposed to be at RT from day one and was quoted as saying that it didn't matter what side he was on.- Flowers was drafted as an LT. Maybe of the future, supposedly starting at RT while he learned and the experienced Beatty held down LT. But once the injury to Beatty, they moved him right over to LT. He hadnt played RT since his freshamn year at Miami. He didnt say he didnt care which side he played on until this offseason, but is also on record as being upset with the Giants signing Solder

2) Pugh was a 2nd round LG/C from day one- This is just made up. Are you just disagreeing with scouts' assessments? Aside from injuries, he was very much 1st round (late) talent with versatility for two positions....not Center

3) Richburg probably could've been taken in the 4th round and Flowers was no top ten pick.- Richburg was pretty widely considered the top C prospect in that draft and was pegged as a late first to mid 2nd round talent. Flowers was absolutely right around the top ten after the combine and pro days with several mocks having us draft him.

About the only thing you had right was it being Reese's fault.
This is kind of impressive  
short lease : 5/5/2018 5:37 pm : link

"Hart played on a Florida State team that saw all of its 22 starters go on to make the NFL, the 2014 National Championship squad led by Jameis Winston".

All 22 ...? Wow
RE: What other disasters do you want us to watch?  
wonderback : 5/5/2018 5:50 pm : link
In comment 13955602 Gman11 said:
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The Titanic sinking?
The Hindenburg blowing up?
....


Now that's funny!
My Real Reason For Posting This  
wonderback : 5/5/2018 5:54 pm : link
Was my attempt to respond to the Eli's done crowd. He may be. But there's no way 'anybody' could play QB behind Hart, Flowers and Jerry. No frickin way!!!

Somebody said it right. "It's comical."
Someday Hart will be the best....  
MOOPS : 5/5/2018 6:07 pm : link
burger flipper at Burger King.
How fucking bad was McAdoo?  
Jay on the Island : 5/5/2018 6:57 pm : link
He started this guy over Wheeler almost the entire season when it was evident to everyone with a pulse that Wheeler was a big upgrade. It is almost like McAdoo was trolling us.
RE: How fucking bad was McAdoo?  
wonderback : 5/5/2018 7:33 pm : link
In comment 13955672 Jay on the Island said:
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He started this guy over Wheeler almost the entire season when it was evident to everyone with a pulse that Wheeler was a big upgrade. It is almost like McAdoo was trolling us.


How did he go into the season thinking this guy could protect Eli. And don't get me started on his run blocking. I mean, what the hell was 'Plan B'.

I guess there wasn't one. Should have been fired after the first game.
This just in  
greatgrandpa : 5/5/2018 8:06 pm : link
Rain is wet
Unreal  
Pascal4554 : 5/5/2018 8:06 pm : link
that Reese thought Bobby hart could be a starting right tackle in the NFL. Give him a chance as a rotational guy I can understand, but penciling him as a starter was delusional.
Look, Iím not a lawyer, but..  
Q v2.0 : 5/5/2018 8:07 pm : link
..it appears Hart may have the grounds for a couple of aggravated assault civil suits against Demarcus Lawrence and Joey Bosa.
RE: How fucking bad was McAdoo?  
chopperhatch : 5/5/2018 8:08 pm : link
In comment 13955672 Jay on the Island said:
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He started this guy over Wheeler almost the entire season when it was evident to everyone with a pulse that Wheeler was a big upgrade. It is almost like McAdoo was trolling us.


Orrrrr.....he was a flash in the pan position coach who was over-hired
His jersey  
13ODB : 5/5/2018 8:15 pm : link
Is on nflshop.com
Link - ( New Window )
Nuff said  
mattlawson : 5/5/2018 8:24 pm : link
ď Itís plays like this that makes you wonder why he was ever asked to play on the edge.Ē
RE: Unreal  
Jay on the Island : 5/5/2018 8:39 pm : link
In comment 13955717 Pascal4554 said:
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that Reese thought Bobby hart could be a starting right tackle in the NFL. Give him a chance as a rotational guy I can understand, but penciling him as a starter was delusional.

Not only that but bringing in absolutely no veteran OT's as competition. He went into the season with a terrible 6th round pick and an UDFA as the main competition. I don't know if it was Reese's arrogance or refusing to give up on his draft picks that caused him to make so many poor roster decisions.
Not a clue  
greek13 : 5/5/2018 9:41 pm : link
The arrogance of JR and his ability to undermine TC and hire an incredibly
Unqualified head coach is a case study in how to destroy a team. Anyone who hires him after what he did hear will get what they deserve.
Typo  
greek13 : 5/5/2018 9:42 pm : link
Here not hear
RE: Not a clue  
FStubbs : 5/6/2018 7:00 am : link
In comment 13955769 greek13 said:
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The arrogance of JR and his ability to undermine TC and hire an incredibly
Unqualified head coach is a case study in how to destroy a team. Anyone who hires him after what he did hear will get what they deserve.


Reese had no say in the hiring of McAdoo as head coach. Actually, Coughlin didn't have a lot of say either when he came in as OC. All Mara.
that was absolutely brutal  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 5/6/2018 7:31 am : link
to watch
RE: I went back and watched  
gmenatlarge : 5/6/2018 7:37 pm : link
In comment 13955594 sharpshooter66 said:
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a lot of games from the last 2 years when everyone was screaming to draft a QB and posted a few similar videos of Hart, Jerry, Flowers and others getting mashed play after play. You just cant play QB in those conditions.


A point lost on the Eli bashers on this site.
The offensive play design and play calling  
djm : 5/6/2018 7:50 pm : link
Didnít do anyone along the ol any favors.
RE: His jersey  
short lease : 5/15/2018 5:20 am : link
In comment 13955724 13ODB said:
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Is on nflshop.com Link - ( New Window )


Any game worn Jersies?
1 horrible play after another ...  
short lease : 5/15/2018 5:30 am : link
Are not the OL suppose to be the ones doing the "pan caking"? He gets thrown on his ass-backwards in 2 of those clips.
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